In our opinion: Snooping Facebook won't save Social Security

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  • kbee Syracuse, UT
    March 20, 2019 7:17 p.m.

    The article is referencing New York Times post....only discussing disability fraud not social security payments. Trump promised to not cut social security.....not disability. He also is the only president to try to trim many federal budgets and to cause a plummet in people requesting welfare. Unemployment has drastically dropped. Why criticize such a benign idea? Social media is fair play. At least ideas are being thrown around. Focus on congress instead of Trump. He’s not a player in their eyes and they will continue to do nothing about this problem.

  • pragmatistferlife Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2019 6:08 p.m.

    Light and Liberty..you are wrong.

  • NeifyT Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2019 1:39 p.m.

    @Third,

    I admit I posted without reading the article. An article about Social Security Disability Income (SSDI) has nothing to do with Social Security. That is a whole other bear.

    SSDI; should be a whole separate ball of wax; but I assume Congress has instituted that just as poorly as with Social Security. My wife is truly disabled; and she gets disability payments; to the tune of a whooping $146 per month (not even enough for food to live on, let alone housing, let alone anything else). I somehow suspect all this "fraud" isn't really as lucrative as people make it out to be. The amount of SSDI that a person gets is directly related to how much a person worked and made before becoming disabled. (Thus people who are "lazy" and collecting disability fraudulently, aren't getting very much--because they didn't work much.)

    My wife has been disabled from birth; the only reason she gets any money at all; is because through high school they put her in some work programs so she did a little bit of assisted work; and then Walmart (the largest employer of the disabled); actually allowed her to work for a while (despite her not being able to do the work they assigned).

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    March 20, 2019 12:22 p.m.

    I think one of our last 'esteemed' Democratic congressman from Utah, Jim Mathison (sp), was emphatic about what a sound financial footing the Social Security was on and any Republican who dared suggest a plan to curtail the ponzi scheme was akin to Atila the Hun. Heaven forbid that someone actually tells us the history of FDR's scheme. Yet, if anyone that draws their philosophy from Socialism will just continue to tell us the virtues of having government control of everything from retirement to Health care don't want to talk about the chaos and downside that eventually happens from those ideas. I am all for fixing Social Security, getting the government out of everything except constitutionally defined, but many want it both ways. They want Social Security stabilized, but higher taxes to do it, or, better yet, another government program that will fail. When will they learn? Thank god we have those who just believe in our country the way it should have always been, a Constitutional Republic with liberty, protections, and freedom as its best. Socialism, or anything that looks similar, is anathema to freedom.

  • NeifyT Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2019 10:12 a.m.

    Nothing will save Social Security. Billed to the American public as an investment into a "retirement fund"; Yet designed as a pyramid scheme; and worse practiced as a ponzi scheme (with Congress commonly taking money out to use elsewhere).... It is forever doomed. There is no possible way to sustain it.

    It should be completely disbanded from the current practice; and if instituted again it should be designed and instituted as it was originally billed; as investments into a "retirement fund" with each individual taking out only what they put in (plus interest).

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    March 20, 2019 9:06 a.m.

    Gee, I thought this editorial was going to be about Social Security. You know, that earned benefit for retired people.

    Instead, it was about a disability program.

    Now, in the real world LTD and STD were separate programs from pensions and retirement accounts. They are different animals altogether.

    Government was a little slow on that one.

    Then again, they were a little slow in figuring out that you can't fund a pension program with a rate of return that loses money every year. You end up with a Ponzi scheme, paying old investors with deposits from the new investors.

    As for disability, the TV commercials for social security lawyers are hilarious. They tell us all we need to know about our culture.

  • pragmatistferlife Salt Lake City, UT
    March 20, 2019 8:12 a.m.

    "Increase taxes, cut benefits, or reduce waste."

    Reality screams that cutting benefits would be a far bigger disaster, and a more immediate disaster than any fiscal problems that loom. When did you ever fix a money deficit by decreasing your income? Conservatives always say we should treat the federal budget like a family budget...until it comes to increasing income.

    Fraud should be eliminated, but not on the basis of political ideology, but rather on the basis of need and the law.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    March 20, 2019 7:36 a.m.

    Social Security is an easy fix if ideology would get out of the way.