@Zabilde - Riverdale, UTWeiler ought to be a school board member in
Davis County. His showboating over Ash Wednesday was pathetic and had no place
on the hill.Agreed that the state should not control the GOP
policies.What the party needs is someone besides the oligarchs
picking a new chairman.. I don't think they are capable of doing that.As we can see by some of the comments here, there are still people who
are like Karl Rove out there. He didn't see the Tea Party coming and he
didn't see Trump coming...but the problem is all those voters who did.
Isn't the GOP about the voters?As long as they want total
control of the process, they will never see eye-to-eye with the voters.To confuse the issue, The Church is veering left as globalists, making the GOP
here think they need to shift left, too. But the voter doesn't see it that
way. See Mia's loss.
SayNoToBo beautifully described the destruction of the Utah GOP: Tea party,
social media, exit bennett, enter Lee, rise of MAGA. I don't know if we
will see McMullen again but I certainly hope that someone like him who is not
mired in the mindset of the 1950s will rise and give Republicans someone to vote
for and still look at themselves in the mirror the next day.
It has been said that there is an "evil party" (Democrats) and a
"stupid party" the Republicans. It looks like some Utah Republicans are
determined to get a "crazy party" added to the list with their incessant
friendly fire on their fellow Republicans.SB 54 was a horrible bill,
but it has become settled law, and wasting time and money fighting that is crazy
and/or stupid. Perhaps if the malcontents put their efforts into
getting Republicans elected we would not have more Democrats in the legislature
and a Democrat congressman.
Say No to BO you are close but you have some facts messed up. You are right
that the Tea Party and social media upset the control of the party elite and
booted Bennett giving us Lee. But it's not the members of the SCC who are
refusing to see and hear the view point of the Trump supporter in Kearns.It's the monied establishment Elite who backed CMV and SB54 and
whom Rob Anderson has worked to support in his efforts to undermine the
Party's efforts to fight SB54. He's not only refused to
do his duty as the Chairman, at one point he tried to declare the Party
bankrupt. And at the same time Sen Todd Weiler and a couple other establishment
"Republicans" had the paper work ready to create a new Republican Party.
In other words they were ready to try a coup to seize control of the name
Republican Party.Rob lied to win his seat two years ago and
isn't likely to retain his seat. And the fight against SB54
will continue. CMV violated the compromise behind SB54 when they ran their
petition last year, the House voted to repeal it this year. The Senate
didn't get to vote it might have been repealed.The State has no
business telling any party how to choose it's nominees.
SB54 is right and proper Choose the right.
That's two chairmen in a row who are under attack. The Utah GOP leadership
has always pandered to the power brokers and money bags. The voters were
clueless. Then came the Tea Party and social media. Exit Bennett. Enter Lee.The committee never got over it and never adapted.Losing
this guy is a good move, but his replacement is likely to be picked by the same
people who are out-of-touch with the guy in the flannel shirt sitting at his
kitchen table in Kearns. The party leaders want to be globalists. The rest of us
are MAGA.Unless they install a down-to-earth chairman, they might as
well keep this one. They'd better figure out how to listen to the Trump
voter because Evan McMullin ain't coming back.
Anderson is a class act, and there is a group of folks who don't like the
way that he actually gives voice to the everyday Utah Republican. Heaven forbid
that all Republicans in the state be represented, according to this
super-minority! Anderson was the right man for the job, and this
very same, small group that wants to oust him is this same group of individuals
who seem to love to spout the rhetoric that we are a representative body of the
people, and our government is not controlled by what they call a
"mob..." which describes them exactly- a superminority that wants to
control the vote of the entire Republican state body. One solution is for county
delegates to vote those who support the idea of a minority minority-controlling
SCC body, out of office.
An appointed investigative committee report showed that our state party chairman
admitted to filing Bylaw changes on 3/12/18 that not only did not reflect the
changes approved by the GOP State Central Committe, but he also substituted his
own changes wherein he had no authority to do so. He also included signatures of
other party officers on those changes without their consent. Also, it is not
true that the SCC change the rules to make it easier to oust an officer in the
party. Instead, the SCC approved a standing rule, that recognized rules already
in place as prescribed by Roberts Rules that officers can also be removed
"for cause". No new rules were created, only existing ones recognized.
The whole truth is important to make informed decisions.
It’s time for a change. New leadership needs to happen, not impressed by
recent pleas for him to retain power.
One strategy is to leave the party. Another strategy is to remain within the
party and then work hard to wrest it back from a non-representative group of
hardliners who want the party to represent their very narrow view of the world
and the party. I would suggest that the better approach is to stay in and fight
against extreme views of the vocal minority. The victory of SB54 is a great
Mr. Anderson has acted like a king and refused to the job he sought out and
obtained under false pretenses. While pledging to party delegates that he
"was not the SB54 candidate," Mr. Anderson has done everything in his
power to undermine the party's fight against SB54.That may well
be viewed as the moral or correct position to take by many. But it is not the
position either the elected delegates nor the elected State Central Committee
has chosen to pursue. It is the job of the delegates to set party
platforms and general direction. It is the job of the State Central Committee to
determine specific policies. It is the job of the Chairman to execute those
policies.Nobody asked Mr. Anderson to break the law; certainly not
to harm anyone. They directed him to transmit a new set of party rules to the
State as required by State law. It is up to the State to challenge rules they
think violate State election laws.If Mr. Anderson can't or
won't do the job he sought out, he should resign. Obviously, he won't
do that as he plays king.So the party is going to have to replace
him.Those who don't like the way the GOP is run, can and should
support a different party.
A small group of elitist state GOP leaders are determined to retain control of
all power in the state Republican party. They are very corrupt. This is one of
the reasons I left the Republican party.
How did the Utah GOP get to be such a rolling dumpster fire? And what can be
done to fix it?
The Utah GOP can't govern their own party. Yet, for some reason, so many
Utahn's think it's a great idea to let them manage our state.
Anderson seems about the only sane person in the Utah GOP party's central
governing body. We need to keep him, and oust the rest of them.