Where's Donald Trump? This is his buddy's greatest moment and Trump
should be there to celebrate. We know that Trump approved of this because he
told us so. He said that many people in Crimea spoke Russian and they belong
with Russia.It's the same logic Adolph Hitler used for
occupying the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia in the run up to WW2. He said that
there were a large number of German-speakers living there, So the Germans moved
in and took over, just like the Russians in Crimea.
@The Great Helmsman3:11 p.m.Sanctions is something in between nothing and
sending in the 82nd ariborn or nukes.I didn't say Pres Obama
did nothing. You Assumed I think that.I think Obama did something.
I was pointing out that there's Many things in between the two extremes
you brought up. It doesn't have to be one or the other.Sanctions is one of those thingsSending the Sec of State to
negotiate with them is anotherPresidents negotiating is anotherGetting the UN involved is another.There's lots of
things in bewteen the extreemes.
@2 Bits"Did anybody say send the 82nd Airborne? Nope.
Hyperbole.There is something in between sending in the 82nd... and
doing nothing. Isn't there? Or does it have to be one or the other?"You know what is hyperbole? To say President Obama did nothing with
regard to the annexation of Crimea. The facts say otherwise:President Obama, along with the EU and other allies, did three rounds of
sanctions against Russia for annexing Crimea, starting in March/April 2014.
Three types of sanctions were imposed: ban on provision of technology for oil
and gas exploration, ban on provision of credits to Russian oil companies and
state banks, travel restrictions on the influential Russian citizens close to
Putin and involved in the annexation of Crimea.You say these
sanctions were "nothing" because they were led by President Obama. Is
something in between sending in the 82nd and doing nothing? Yep, exactly what
President Obama did.
@The Great HelmsmanRE: "I don't like a belligerent Russia anymore
than you do, but you really expected Obama to send the 82nd Airborne to
Sevastopol to stop Putin's forces?---Did anybody say send the
82nd Airborne? Nope. Hyperbole.There is something in between
sending in the 82nd... and doing nothing. Isn't there? Or does it have to
be one or the other?Even threatening to do something may have
helped. Or Send UN or US peacekeeping troops to protect the civilians in
Ukraine during the election would have helped.We did pretty much
nothing.===RE: "And besides, Dear Leader has been office
for over two years and I have yet to see U.S. forces parachuting into
Crimea"...---It was over before Trump took office.Did you really expect/hope Trump would send troops to Crimea? I
didn't.Trump is probably less for war than you guys pretended
when he took office. He hasn't started or expanded any wars so far. Has
he?He has negotiated (which you guys pretended he was incapable of).
Made more progress with North Korea in 2 years than we have made in the past
@UtahEngineer:I don't like a belligerent Russia anymore than
you do, but you really expected Obama to send the 82nd Airborne to Sevastopol to
stop Putin's forces? Afghanistan, Iraq and Crimea? How many wars did you
want us to fight simultaneously? Look, face facts. Russia has
consistently defended its own interests, whether it was backing Serbia during
the NATO conflict in the Clinton era, invading Georgia during the Bush years, or
Ukraine in Obama’s presidency. Russia has shown repeatedly it’s
willing to use its military and other means to protect what it sees as its
sphere of influence.I do not condone it, but it is real. And besides, Dear Leader has been office for over two years and I have yet to
see U.S. forces parachuting into Crimea.
@UtahEngineerTrump's the one that wants to restore Russia to the G8
and get rid of their sanctions that were imposed after the annexation of
Let's have a celebration... Vodka and Borscht for Everybody! And you will
like it Comrades.I wonder if the people there like being part of
Russia, instead of Ukraine. Or if it made a difference.I
don't know who's fault it is that Crimea was Annexed by Russia, and
Ukraine was invaded by Russian military (in the midst of an election that looked
like they wanted closer ties with the West). But it happened. And after we
signed an agreement to help defend them if they would give up their nuclear
weapons after the USSR broke up.Ukraine had the 3rd largest Nuclear
arsenal in the world after the breakup. We convinced them to give them up.
Too bad it made them vulnerable to Russia invading them again. At least those
weapons didn't get in the hands of terrorists (which was the main worry at
the time).Oh well.
Putin certainly appreciates America's weakness toward him under Obama. The
wind beneath Putin's wings has been the fecklessness of Obama's