Putin visits Crimea to mark 5th anniversary of annexation

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  • Jim Chee Lahaina, HI
    March 19, 2019 5:04 p.m.

    Where's Donald Trump? This is his buddy's greatest moment and Trump should be there to celebrate. We know that Trump approved of this because he told us so. He said that many people in Crimea spoke Russian and they belong with Russia.

    It's the same logic Adolph Hitler used for occupying the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia in the run up to WW2. He said that there were a large number of German-speakers living there, So the Germans moved in and took over, just like the Russians in Crimea.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 18, 2019 3:47 p.m.

    @The Great Helmsman3:11 p.m.
    Sanctions is something in between nothing and sending in the 82nd ariborn or nukes.

    I didn't say Pres Obama did nothing. You Assumed I think that.

    I think Obama did something. I was pointing out that there's Many things in between the two extremes you brought up. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

    Sanctions is one of those things

    Sending the Sec of State to negotiate with them is another

    Presidents negotiating is another

    Getting the UN involved is another.

    There's lots of things in bewteen the extreemes.

  • The Great Helmsman Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2019 3:11 p.m.

    @2 Bits

    "Did anybody say send the 82nd Airborne? Nope. Hyperbole.

    There is something in between sending in the 82nd... and doing nothing. Isn't there? Or does it have to be one or the other?"

    You know what is hyperbole? To say President Obama did nothing with regard to the annexation of Crimea. The facts say otherwise:

    President Obama, along with the EU and other allies, did three rounds of sanctions against Russia for annexing Crimea, starting in March/April 2014. Three types of sanctions were imposed: ban on provision of technology for oil and gas exploration, ban on provision of credits to Russian oil companies and state banks, travel restrictions on the influential Russian citizens close to Putin and involved in the annexation of Crimea.

    You say these sanctions were "nothing" because they were led by President Obama. Is something in between sending in the 82nd and doing nothing? Yep, exactly what President Obama did.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 18, 2019 1:59 p.m.

    @The Great Helmsman
    RE: "I don't like a belligerent Russia anymore than you do, but you really expected Obama to send the 82nd Airborne to Sevastopol to stop Putin's forces?
    ---
    Did anybody say send the 82nd Airborne? Nope. Hyperbole.

    There is something in between sending in the 82nd... and doing nothing. Isn't there? Or does it have to be one or the other?

    Even threatening to do something may have helped. Or Send UN or US peacekeeping troops to protect the civilians in Ukraine during the election would have helped.

    We did pretty much nothing.
    ===

    RE: "And besides, Dear Leader has been office for over two years and I have yet to see U.S. forces parachuting into Crimea"...
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    It was over before Trump took office.

    Did you really expect/hope Trump would send troops to Crimea? I didn't.

    Trump is probably less for war than you guys pretended when he took office. He hasn't started or expanded any wars so far. Has he?

    He has negotiated (which you guys pretended he was incapable of). Made more progress with North Korea in 2 years than we have made in the past 50 years.

  • The Great Helmsman Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2019 11:41 a.m.

    @UtahEngineer:

    I don't like a belligerent Russia anymore than you do, but you really expected Obama to send the 82nd Airborne to Sevastopol to stop Putin's forces? Afghanistan, Iraq and Crimea? How many wars did you want us to fight simultaneously?

    Look, face facts. Russia has consistently defended its own interests, whether it was backing Serbia during the NATO conflict in the Clinton era, invading Georgia during the Bush years, or Ukraine in Obama’s presidency. Russia has shown repeatedly it’s willing to use its military and other means to protect what it sees as its sphere of influence.

    I do not condone it, but it is real.

    And besides, Dear Leader has been office for over two years and I have yet to see U.S. forces parachuting into Crimea.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    March 18, 2019 10:52 a.m.

    @UtahEngineer
    Trump's the one that wants to restore Russia to the G8 and get rid of their sanctions that were imposed after the annexation of Crimea...

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 18, 2019 9:35 a.m.

    Let's have a celebration... Vodka and Borscht for Everybody! And you will like it Comrades.

    I wonder if the people there like being part of Russia, instead of Ukraine. Or if it made a difference.

    I don't know who's fault it is that Crimea was Annexed by Russia, and Ukraine was invaded by Russian military (in the midst of an election that looked like they wanted closer ties with the West). But it happened. And after we signed an agreement to help defend them if they would give up their nuclear weapons after the USSR broke up.

    Ukraine had the 3rd largest Nuclear arsenal in the world after the breakup. We convinced them to give them up. Too bad it made them vulnerable to Russia invading them again. At least those weapons didn't get in the hands of terrorists (which was the main worry at the time).

    Oh well.

  • UtahEngineer Sandy, UT
    March 18, 2019 6:50 a.m.

    Putin certainly appreciates America's weakness toward him under Obama. The wind beneath Putin's wings has been the fecklessness of Obama's foreign policy.