Mediocrity should never be rewarded. They deserve what they got: Nothing.
That’s all BYU is.
All the BYU fans supporting the status quo were the same ones who supported
Tanner as the starting QB. Good guy, but not a good QB. Sitake took the
questions and on field performance and finally gave Wilson his shot because his
job was on the line. Look at how all the complaining fans look now!! Grimes
and Sitake should have started Wilson from the beginning. Record of 9-4 would
have probably resulted. Well, at least we have Wilson and Hall now. They are
bonafide D-1 All Americans. I give Grimes and Sitake credit for making the
change and I think they are headed in the right direction. Indy is the say to
go for the time being. Holmoe made the right call on that one, but he is
killing his prospects with the Rose/bb issues. Take our lead and clean house
on this bb program and go for a rebuild and new direction or the noise will just
get louder. Tired of watching the bb non-sense.
LDSAZ:"You post is pretty whimsical. I'm so glad BYU is not
politically correct."I am a proud supporter and received a
fantastic education at BYU. I support the school's mission and a
Christlike application of the honor code. What I was stating is the
reality I see of today's collegiate athletic landscape; and the challenges
that BYU basketball and football face to be competitive, relevant, and
successful while representing the university and its sponsoring faith.In no way was I suggesting a compromise in standards for the sake of athletics
with my views.I look forward to the next basketball season and what
they can do in the fall with football.
@daver - , 00March 19, 2019 12:19 p.m."Travis Hansen is
the best prospect for BYU Men's BB Coach!!!"Great player
with absolutely no coaching experience. Next.
Travis Hansen is the best prospect for BYU Men's BB Coach!!!
After U San Diego debacle, the likelihood this team could help itself with
further play was...well... not high. Watching a team with an upward trajectory
(like Women's BB), is a better payoff for sacrificing two hours of precious
time. All I ask, win or lose, for any of my teams, is good ball - I wanna be
inspired; I expect a display of competence, individually and collectively.
It's no different than going to a ballet or a concert. I expect the
performers to look like they can handle - and exceed - the expectations.
poyman - Draper, UTMarch 18, 2019 11:35 p.m.@azute... "...Sign this guy through retirement, PLEASE!"***********Interesting comment from a fan of a team that
Rose's teams routinely kick year in and year out and often by double
digits.Lucky for the utes that they don't play in the WCC.--------Hahaha!He's 4-3 vs Coach
Krystkowiak.Did he have to forfeit any of those wins as part of the
48 games he had to forfeit for cheating?
Jayson MelineYou post is pretty whimsical. I'm so glad BYU is
not politically correct. I'm so glad that they are above par on so many
meaningful levels as other teams we see. I'm so glad that the players go
on to become great citizens of this great country; taking with them the values
they lived as college students. I'm so glad to them in athletic as well as
other pursuits that are important to them. Occasionally, person faults surface.
But BYU fans can be proud that so many continue to be great after college. I
don't watch many sports after college, because professional players are
difficult to see physically and behaviorally. Eternal families, and
representing Jesus Christ is a worthy goal, and the politically correct path
isn't the way, truth, and light.Go Cougs!
@azute... "...Sign this guy through retirement, PLEASE!"***********Interesting comment from a fan of a team that
Rose's teams routinely kick year in and year out and often by double
digits.Lucky for the utes that they don't play in the WCC.
“Someone get a backbone and fire this guy.”Noooo,
he’s BEAUTIFUL, particularly in indy football!Sign this guy
through retirement, PLEASE!Go Utes!
Tom Holmoe has decimated BYU Sports. Now our football and basketball teams are
performing nearly as poorly as Holmoe-coached Cal football teams .... Someone
get a backbone and fire this guy.
SoonerUte:I can see your point depending on the year, how good the
competition turns out to be given how far in-advance games are scheduled.BYU in 2018 played 5 P-5 Programs and 3 Solid teams in Boise State, Utah
State, and Northern Illinois.2019 4 P-5 Programs and perhaps 2 solid teams
in South Florida, Utah State2020 6 P-5 Programs and perhaps 5 solid teams
in Utah State, Houston, NIU, Boise State, San Diego State.2021 7 P-5
Programs and perhaps 3 solid teams in South Florida, Utah State, Boise StateBYU is also traveling to a larger geographical area than they otherwise
could if locked into a Mountain West schedule.Where BYU could
consider alignment is the American Athletic Conference. They already have
played and scheduled a few schools in that conference. Maybe as a tryout to be
a member?This would give them more national exposure against solid
competition (Houston, South Florida, Central Florida. Downside, a lot of travel
as they would be the most western team. Not sure how open to accommodating
non-Sunday schedules.One thing: BYU fans need to have more
realistic expectations. Not a strong suit in Provo.
Jayson Meline - Chubbuck, ID" BYU back to the Mtn West understanding Power 5
scheduling to increase national standing will have to be sacrificed."Not really.The 2017 schedule included 4 P5 schools and 6 MWC
schools. Swap out UMass and E.Carolina for 2 other MWC schools and you have a
MWC schedule while retaining any "national standing" you think
BYU should have been in the NIT—despite the team’s flaws,
they’re still as good as half the teams that were invited. They might not
have merited two home games (which they might well have won), but it
wouldn’t have been a good business decision to invite BYU and then not
want the Marriott Center as a venue. Better just to leave them out.
Is anyone at BYU embarrassed? Rose? Holmoe? The Administration? Or do their
paychecks sooth the pain and sear their consciences?
There are realities BYU fans are not willing to accept.Opting for
the WCC had to do with Sunday scheduling. The WCC, with larger faith based
membership, is more willing to accommodate BYU while other conferences increase
Sunday events.BYU is a politically incorrect school in terms of the
honor code and faith based mission. By nearly every metric in terms of
capacity, national brand, academic standing, competitive programs; BYU is on par
with many Big 12 and Pac 12 schools. But BYU offends the definition of
diversity of the greater collegiate world today. But the effort was made to
align with those conferences who declined to invite BYU.The only way
BYU could get the type of football schedule it has with media contracts was to
go independent in football. If BYU fans want to go back to matchups of the WAC
as opposed to playing Power 5 schools, its back to the Mtn West, or try to join
the American Athletic understanding Power 5 scheduling to increase national
standing will have to be sacrificed.Rose and Holmoe may be reaching
the end, but new coaches and an AD are still going to have to deal with
externalities and climate many BYU fans just won't realistically accept.
@skywalker - Palo Alto, CAEvidently for some, it's far to soon
after a bitter season to discuss/debate whether or not the conference scheduling
changes had a positive or any kind of impact. But I am sure that the
topic will be written about in the very near future on this site.
A few have commented on this but Tom Holmoe needs to go, pretty obvious at this
point. Not holding an AD accountable but firing the coaches is like firing an
assistant manager repeatedly while keeping the Store Manager. At some point the
top dog is to blame.
Coach Rose is going to be in the hot seat next year and every move scrutinized.
An NIT bid is a must for him to continue on at BYU (and that might not save
him). Sadly, there should be one other person be in that same hot seat with
Rose: Athletic Director Tom Holmoe. The sports program overall has
been hurt under the helm of Holmore. BYU should have taken all of its programs
to a major conference instead of leaving the Mountain West, having the football
team go independent and nearly everyone else going to the WCC. Had we found a
way into a major conference, more talent would be interested in coming to Provo.
Yes, soccer, volleyball and softball have done well (along with a
few other sports), but your major sports (the ones that bring in national
eyeballs and money) have taken hits. Football and basketball bring in talented
student recruits. It can have a nice side effect of bringing good attention to
the university and that brings in talented students outside of the athletic
department.Independence / WCC membership has hurt BYU. Put A.D.
Holmoe in the hot seat with Rose. Also, maybe some other administrators should
share that seat for past bad decisions.
After a tough season a long vacation has to feel good for Rose and company. Rose
received a raise and an extension so the off season will be stress free. The
program keeps themselves pretty insulated from comment boards and social media.
BYU was left out of the NIT and the future looks very bleak. BYU's
recruiting has gone down and there is no real future for the program. Even the
the WCC, the teams are getting better while BYU has been having a very bad
recruiting year. I doubt that this will be the last time during Dave Rose's
tenure that BYU will be left out of any post-season tournaments. I believe that
all sports programs have been degraded since the decision to go independent in
football. Tom Holmoe will have to accept the responsibility for this decline and
quit blaming coaches. Bronco Mendenhall left BYU because he could see this
THEREALND - Mishawaka, INMarch 18, 2019 10:07 a.m.@Jello is Good -
,March 18, 2019 9:15 a.m."Yes. Gonzaga got a #1 seed.
Thanks for asking."Gonzaga didn't need a restructuring of
the league tournament or conference schedule to get a #1 seed. My proof is that
they have gotten a #1 seed twice before. My opinion, the scheduling
changes accomplished nothing. It doesn't look like the WCC will be
competing with the ACC anytime soon with 7 teams in the tournament and three #1
seeds.——-Why would a BYU hater like you
care?The most immediate improvement was quelling all talk of Gonzaga
joining the MWC.Long term, it will be the difference between a
bubble WCC team getting an at-large bid.
What a mess are BYU's major sports programs. With Aggie football and
basketball on a completely different end of the spectrum, the chances for
successful in state recruiting has jumped significantly. The direction BYU took
with basketball and football conference alignments has been a disaster and it is
the athletes and students who pay the price for this inept administration and
Sometimes perspective is needed.Too many forget 1996 when Reid was
let go due to attendance, key players not completing their eligibility or
transferring. The situation was worse than the outcome of this season.The Y is struggling in an age of disruption for college basketball. Institutional control on what players do outside of the program with their
families, boosters, and handlers regarding pro ball is ever more difficult to
manage. Recruitment of international players is a great start.
Rose acknowledged not too long ago the Y has attempted to recruit foreign
players; but has run into gray areas with eligibility which could be an
indication the program needs to learn from Gonzaga and St. Mary's. There are quality JUCO players who mature with D-1 talent; not going
pro, willing to abide by the Honor Code that can play in systems conducive to 20
win seasons and NCAA tourney bids.The Y needs to adapt to 1 and
done, and 2 year eligibility to build and maintain its rosters irrespective of
managing missions.Rose knows the seat is hot next year. Let's
see if he and Holmoe can adapt to change. With or without them, it is a rebuild
just like football.
The WCC is a coaching conference, in other words the coaches have to develop a
plan how to create higher percentage shots. That's why in every WCC game
BYU are or will be out coached. In every game or in other words, Rose is a
Left out? One should be first worthy of inclusion before they can be "left
out." The only team in Utah worthy of post-season play was invited.
@Jello is Good - ,March 18, 2019 9:15 a.m."Yes. Gonzaga
got a #1 seed. Thanks for asking."Gonzaga didn't need a
restructuring of the league tournament or conference schedule to get a #1 seed.
My proof is that they have gotten a #1 seed twice before. My
opinion, the scheduling changes accomplished nothing. It doesn't look like
the WCC will be competing with the ACC anytime soon with 7 teams in the
tournament and three #1 seeds.
I have enjoyed watching the BYU women's basketball team. They have lots of
hustle and drive and they play together and don't give up when they are
down 13 points in the third quarter. I hope they do well in the NCAA tournament.
They are a young team and their coach is a very savvy fellow. He knows how and
when and where to make adjustments-bless him!Meanwhile on other
fronts, we can watch volleyball and baseball and softball and read the contest
of comments between BYU and Utah fans about the upcoming football season, and
still be entertained while avoiding the serious conversations of what a
university education should be all about.
Tomahawk Red"10-7, owned?"YES!"Yep you had a winning record but how many of those wins were against good
Pac teams?"Don't kid yourself. If the record
has been reversed, you couldn't have cared less how many of those wins came
against good WCC teams, especially, on the road.
“Down under - "It looks like we all agree the BYU ended the season
poorly but even with that they still owned the rest of the state.”BJMoose - "December 1st Weber State 113, BYU 103. You have a short
memory."November 9th - BYU 75, UVU 65December 5th - BYU
95, USU 80December 8th - BYU 79, Utah 59You have an even
shorter term memory.It's too bad that the Utes are too scared
to play in Logan or in Ogden anymore.
The Total meltdown of the Mens Basketball team this year is in fact a direct
result of Coach Rose ...Nick Emery's NCAA Violations which gave the Y the
Biggest Black Eye Ever to any of their Sports Programs or the School happened
under his watch but yet Emery was allowed to return ...Rose recruits Guard Heavy
EVERY year which shows a Fatal Flaw in recruiting ! He refuses to get out of the
State of Utah to Recruit... His Coaching staff looks like something out of most
Utah High Schools...and he in fact has a problem with Coach Player connection
which has been shown lately with Quality players constantly leaving ...Rose nor
anyone on this current coaching staff has any proven ability to Coach and Teach
the Big's so what does Rose do, He brings on Worthington as a Grad Assist.
next year... Fatal Flaw !Holmoe,are you out there ? Anywhere ??
@THEREALND - Mishawaka, INMarch 18, 2019 4:46 a.m."How did
the WCC scheduling changes work out? Did the changes accomplish the goals as
intended in the first season since they were implemented?"Yes.
Gonzaga got a #1 seed. Thanks for asking.
@ iknow - Ogden, UT,Bland Fowler, ARE YOU KIDDING ME! He didn't
even play college basketball. His only comment is "he squared up".
“Down under - Salt Lake City, UTMarch 17, 2019 11:16 p.m.It
looks like we all agree the BYU ended the season poorly but even with that they
still owned the rest of the state.”December 1st Weber State
113, BYU 103. You have a short memory.
It's hard to see anything but mediocrity in the Y program going forward
without major changes . . and I have no idea what changes those would be. They
may still occasionally stumble onto a talented enough roster to make a
one-and-done NCAA tournament appearance, but that's about it.Honestly . . can anyone tell me the ceiling for this program isn't
"pretty good, sometimes"?
An ignominious end to the season.But count me as one who sees Yoeli
as staying for his senior year. He's seen what happens when guys leave the
team early, and he's too smart to to go play in some third tier European
league for $45k a season. His degree is worth more than that, and his
popularity will never be greater than if he stays in school.
With the extension BYU gave Rose before the season, I see Rose continuing to be
the coach for the foreseeable future unless he decides to resign/retire. BYU
made a mistake and will have to live with it for awhile.
Can someone name a coach on the BYU staff who can make Childs a better player?
That why he should leave. Mika came to the same conclusion. On the
bright side for Rose and his program, Luke Worthington will be on the sidelines
coaching this team next year. Think of the top recruits who will wants to come
play for him! Roses coaching staff is loaded. Everyone of the coaches has
........ only coached at the college level under Rose!! This
staff shouldn’t have any problem getting players who are too 100 and they
may have to turn away some great players because they don’t have enough
room on the roster ...... Losing the o e scholly because of the NCAA
infractions won’t keep this staff and program down.
This should be a good reset and not an overhaul because I believe BYU has good
players and good coaches. They should take a close look at Utah State, a team
that they beat early on. Utah State has a 1st year coach and the team was
picked 9th in the conference. They have one great player in Merrill. The rest
are players that they developed and are still developing. They got better game
by game, and their fan base grew game by game too. For BYU to succeed next year
they will have to do something different with the way they approach how they
play. That's a question that each coach and each player has to address. I
still plan on having season tickets and I would like to see a turnaround,
including a full house by the end of the year.
Down under - Salt Lake City, UTMarch 17, 2019 11:16 p.m.The
WCC owned the pac this year------------10-7, owned?LOLYep you had a winning record but how many of those wins
were against good Pac teams?vs Oregon State 0-1vs Oregon
0-1vs Colorado 1-1vs Washington 1-2vs WSU 2-0vs Cal
2-1vs Stanford 1-0vs USC 1-0vs UCLA 0-1vs Utah 1-0vs Arizona 1-0vs ASU 0-0 (would've been a surefire loss if the game
w SF wasn't postponed)Congrats on the win, but try to keep it
Tom Holmoe needs to fire both himself and coach Rose. KSL Needs to fire
Dave Mccants and BYUTV needs to fire Greg Wrubbel and everyone covering
their basketball games (except Blaine Fowler - who is excellently qualified).
Most of that “exclusive club” is more ego and self pride than an
LDS team should be represented by. GO COUGARS!!
Losing builds character. So Navy Seal thinking "good", no postseason.
Now make adjustments. And do it right of way. Next season starts now.
@Well.... - Phoenix, AZ, speaking of Yoeli Childs you said, "he'd
seriously benefit from a senior year in the program". However, there is no
one on the coaching staff to teach him anything that would help to make him
better. There's no incentive for him to stay and every incentive for him to
go. So, it's good-bye to YC.Now, the popular and formerly
successful Washington State Coach, Ernie Kent has been let go. And before he
shows up at some other WCC school, BYU should be in talks with him right now. At
least there'd be a chance of him returning to his former Oregon glory at
Hard to argue that it is probably time for Dave to retire. But I don't
blame this season on Rose. BYU's best players have been leaving early. We
know who they are. Jump to the pros, wind up in China or Europe.Secondly, I think the bye system is a mistake. Even Gonzaga lost a game there.
BYU had 20 min of prep before the game. But this team was crazy from the
beginning: sudden losses of coordination allowing opponents to create havoc. For
some reason this year, opponents would go on point explosions while the Cougars
would run around throwing the ball away.The main issue is player
departures. We all know who left early. No star seniors. Some leaving after 1
year of play. I don't know of any coach who could get around this. The AD
needs to interview these guys and other coaches and see what's going on.
Nobody can win when their best players jump ship after a year or two.Personally, I think BYU's Mickey Mouse "honor code" is a problem.
Missions are aways a problem but BYU coaches know how to get around that. But
the HC is so intrusive that I'm not sure that I would want to play there,
especially if I were non-LDS.
BYU needs to get into a real conference in all sports, including football.
Football independence is a dead end. The WCC is a JUCO conference sans
Gonzaga.Look what’s happening at Utah State!Tom Holmoe needs
to go. He made a desperate and fatal decision by leaving the Mountain West. He
will never admit it was the wrong decision.
Bottom line is better players and better coaches needed. Start with coaches who
can game plan, motivate and recruit. Suggestions: Mark Madsen, currently an
assistant with the Lakers, Alex Jensen, an assistant with the Jazz and Mark Pope
at UVU. Get out the pocketbook and pay the going rate. Being proactive has not
been a strong point for Byu.
Misery loves company; though year for both the Utes and Cougars.
How did the WCC scheduling changes work out? Did the changes accomplish the
goals as intended in the first season since they were implemented?“We are confident that these innovative adjustments will enhance access
to the NCAA Tournament for the best programs of our marquee sport,”The WCC did get two teams into the NCAA tournament, but we all know the
only reason that happened is because someone other than Gonzaga won the
conference tournament. The "innovative adjustments"
don't seem to have had any impact. Except possibly a negative one on BYU.
The conference has 3 teams competing in either the NCAA or the NIT. A typical
Childs will leave because there is no coach at BYU who can help him be a better
player in one year. And the only thing that is accomplished is a season of
injury risk on a team that will not be as good as this season. Transfers are
still to come from any player who is marketable to a team actually in the top
100 teams in the country. Reid, I mean Rose, is good enough to coach so long as
there is a Jimmer on the team. Only a Jimmer can enable the coach to just get
out of the way and that is the only way Reid, I mean Rose, will be successful.
One thing for sure, if attendance goes down by 2,000 more seats Rose will be
fired just as Reid was. So — I encourage at least 2,000 more of you to
stay away next year. Holmoe will not pay attention to anything that goes on
either on the court or on the football field. But he will have a difficult time
justifying his poor performance at the ticket booth.
Old But Not Stupid - Moorpark, CAMarch 17, 2019 7:01 p.m.“Doesn't this suggest that BYU is not even a Top 100 team?Nope!Since, there are many auto-qualifiers in the NCAA tournament
that aren’t in the Top 100.Most of the most respected ranking
systems had BYU around 85th.
It looks like we all agree the BYU ended the season poorly but even with that
they still owned the rest of the state. They just play in an improving
conference. The WCC owned the pac this year which is not really saying a lot
anymore.BYU basketball will bounce back.
I am grateful to Dave Rose for all he’s done, all his success. And
likewise to Yoeli. I don’t think Yoeli should go, but I’m expecting
he will; I think Rose needs to move on, but expect he won’t. I
don’t see the athletic department picking up the last year of his
contract. I think between the pressure of the job and his having had to deal
with pancreatic cancer, I think he’s been spent. Does Coach Pope’s
contract with UVU allow him to opt out if BYU comes calling?Regardless, the basketball program needs an overhaul: in recruiting,
especially outside Utah valley; in defense, in game prep and management. I
believe this requires a new set of perspective.
BYU Hockey is having a great season!
Before BYU goes out and makes massive changes, they may want to wait and see
what changes the NBA and NCAA plan on making regarding elite graduating high school basketball players. If the NBA allows graduating seniors to be drafted
out of high school, BYU won’t be the only program trying to figure out its
I have to believe that if Childs were to end his career on a higher note his
paycheck would increase even if its overseas. He and Baxter could be one of the
top front courts in the West next year.
"You can trace this train wreck season to one thing.....NCAA
infractions."One thing? LOL... Try adding poor coaching, lack of
athleticism, bad attitudes, and lack of effort along with the NCAA rules
violations.We stink. We need to try ctrl-alt-del to reboot the
What I am reading here is the same old song and dance I heard about Stan Watts
and LaVell Edwards about three years before they retired. It gets real old. The
sun doesn't always shine, putts don't always sink, etc., etc.
You can trace this train wreck season to one thing.....NCAA infractions. Maybe
coach Rose can get that corrected before next season.
Yes put us out of our misery!
I am not a poor loser, I just hate losing as a fan. Watching BYU this year has
caused more frustration than any season in any sport at BYU in a long, long
time. Yes, even worse than the two seasons ago debacle in football. And yes, to
the point of previous comments, the San Diego total meltdown is directly on the
shoulders of outrageously poor coaching. Rose and the rest of them, were
clueless. So no, BYU Mens don’t deserve to be in the NIT. Fans are not
dumb. As evidenced by the dwindling attendance at the games. The MC should have
18-20,000 fans every home game, but there were barely 12,000 game after game.
Yoeli is such a great guy, but no where near ready for the big league in terms
of capability. One game in the NIT would have been just another San Diego
game.But, I am excited about 2 things; 1) I haven’t paid to
renew 2019/2020 basketball tickets yet! 2) Womens Volleyball is just around the
Sorry but it is time to clean house. How long is mediocrity going to be
Well, when your team is pretty crappy, you don't go to a tournament. Pretty
You know.... there isn't much that hasn't already said about this.
Hopefully this is a bottom for the program. Hopefully coach figures out a path
forward. Hopefully...... you get the idea.
Right decision, in my opinion. Time to cut their losses and prepare for next
season. It's unfortunate that the team had such a disappointing year,
especially after the extreme investment by donors to construct a special annex
with a replica Marriott Center basketball court and many, many extra amenities,
all of which would ostensibly make the team even better. I hope the investment
pays better dividends in future seasons.
Honestly, it's just as well for the Cougs that they sit this one out and
try to put together a decent team next year. Reading between the lines, seems
like Yoeli is probably done. That's sad, because he'd seriously
benefit from a senior year in the program (we can only hope a winning one) and
have a much better shot at the NBA instead of joining his former teammates in
Europe. But it's a choice only he can make. Still, I'm not
on the "It's all Rose's fault" bandwagon. He's shown what
he can do when he has quality athletes who follow his directions and stick
around. His problem at this point is that he's not getting guys who are all
three, and the last two are partly on the players, not just the coach. Not
sticking around is part of the college game almost everywhere now, which hits
the Cougs harder because they thrive on team chemistry rather than pure
athleticism. Firing Rose doesn't fix that in the least.Rose is
a good coach who could be great with some better play from the guys on the
court. He needs to recruit better athletes; they need to be responsible for not
executing the game plans or working together well. Team problem.
This is a sad ending but Cougar basketball did not deserve a bid to either
tournament. We all hope Rose retires with some dignity, as this will continue to
get worse. There is no sign of new talent or recruits that will rescue next
years program. Players with talent don’t want to sign on to this. Players
with talant leave because they cant see value to their careers in staying. Mr.
Holmoe, do your job as athletic director. Cougar alumni are tired of watching
the downward trend.
Since I enrolled at BYU back in 1971 the basketball program has never looked
more bleak. I have no confidence in Rose to right the ship and I don’t
think the athletic director has the ability to find a better replacement. This
was the first year since 71 I chose not to watch any games because it would be
way too frustrating to watch a team that has an offensive game plan that
resembles a typical pickup game and a defense that uses the NBA all star game as
a blueprint. This time next year this will look like a year that wasn’t
so bad after all.
If this does not get some heads rolling within the Basketball program then
nothing will .....
Time to hang it up Dave. The game has past you. Need to play defense and that
isn’t something coached at BYU, at least this year, with the loss of the
only coach that knew defense. Recruiters needs to get out of Utah County and
even out of the country like Gonzaga or St. Mary’s. Always amazed how
these small private schools in the WCC push us around year in year out.
BYU was not deserving of an NIT bid. Program has gone downhill for a few years
now. Talent is lacking. Coaches cannot effectively motivate players anymore.
More games against Quardrant 1 teams will only result in more painful losses
given talent level of players and coaching. Program bores me now. Women's
program, on the other hand, is doing well.
I agree to stop the season since we didn’t make the NIT. A complete
program evaluation needs to happen. Perhaps it was too early to extend Rose
contract. All the people on the staff are good people but are they best for the
team. We have several inexperienced college coaches. Someone needs to hold the
coaches accountable why players are leaving. Tom H needs to get involved with
this if he hasn’t done so. I think Dastrup left due to lack of playing
time while he should have played ahead others. Same for Hardnett. Rose has his
favorites and others in the past have left early. I don’t think Rose can
handle players effectively. Are we headed for the same results next year? Go
Sad, but right. I hope for a better season next year, seeing a lot more heart
and hard work 40 minutes a game.
The last two years have been hard to watch-in wins and losses-and I don't
know why. I've lost interest. My first year in SLC was BYU's 24-4
season with Danny Ainge, so I've been a big fan for awhile.But
while I loved Dave Rose's first decade, things have changed. Why did Elijah
Bryant, Eric Mika and (I'm sure) Yoeli Childs leave knowing they
weren't going to play in the NBA? And what about all of the transfers,
especially the legacy players that looked so good? Here are a few off the top of
my head:Jordan Chatman averaged 13.2 ppg for BCJake Toolson
averaged 15.0 ppg for Utah ValleyFrank Bartley IV averaged 17.9 ppg for
LouisianaJamal Aaytes averaged 13.0 ppg for So. Utah a year agoIs it today's young players being antsy and needing playing time NOW or
is there something within the program? Did they do so well because its a lower
level of basketball? Other than Gonzaga, these are all as good as or superior to
most WCC teams. All of the transfers started after the move to the WCC. Could it
be the small gyms?I don't know. But I hope someone figures it
A dreadful season. The thing is, I fault coaching for a large part of this
Doesn't this suggest that BYU is not even a Top 100 team?Wonder
if this will spark some corrective ACTION by supervision....