RINOs don’t have much horse sense. They appear to have linguini spines.Mr. Romney appears to have none of the first and all of the second.
UtahBruin,Obama did not give billions to Iran. He returned their money.
I am saddened by the lack of leadership of our two senators. They simply joined
with others with an excuse to avoid supporting the president and more
importantly our country. Others may say they were sticking up for the
constitution but that is baloney pure and simple. I was knew that Romney would
be supportive of anything the mainstream politicians pushed and I was right.
That was the last vote he will receive and Lee, as good as he can be failed on
this one terribly. Guessing at what the democrats will or won't do in the
future is not how to vote on issues today. This is one of the most important
matters our nation has come up against and if we lose at this point we have lost
it in the long run
Many people are saying the goofy Wall is weird.
How is it possible so many people misunderstand what Romney and Lee are doing?
I will spell it out clearly so it cannot be misunderstood.This is NOT about border wall funding. This is NOT about going against
immigration reform.This is ENTIRELY about standing up for the
Constitution of the United States.PERIOD. Utah's
Senators are doing exactly what Utahns everywhere entrusted them to do, which is
to uphold and defend the constitution of the United States of America, and to
look out for Utah's best interests. There is nothing more important than
preventing a sitting president from declaring a national emergency according to
his whims. Why? Because that president might soon be a democrat who decides to
declare a national emergency against firearms, capitalists, or religion. Be
careful what you wish for, you just might get it!
@Baccus0902“It is common knowledge that most illegal entry
into our country happens at Legal Port of Entries.”It may be
common knowledge. But it’s 100% inaccurate As stated very clearly in
the latest report by the border patrol agency. Their numbers were very clear
involving the border. That more human illegal entry happens away from ports of
entry. More human trafficking happens away from ports of entry. More drugs are
brought into the USA away from ports of entry. These numbers and facts were
clearly stated in the last reports from the BPA. What you have stated is 100%
false, and was a statement made first by a CNN report, and somehow, lefty
politicians, and many others have latched on to it trying to pass it off as a
true, which it is not. As proven by the men and women who work the border. On
a side note, border patrol agents want a wall, also contradictory to Lefty
reports. And why do they want it? Because it will help them do their jobs and
apprehend more illegal border crossers, drugs, traffickers, etc., more cameras
will not. When was the last time you saw a camera apprehend someone? Spend the
money right, on a wall!
Good old Mitt. He always was a "never Trumper". But he fooled most of
Utah's voters to vote him in. NOT me. He always had been a Rino Republican
like McCain. He discredited himself during the 2016 campaign by shocking remarks
about Trump. It was do out of character , or do we thought back then. I
didn't believe he supported the Trump conservative agenda back then and he
had now proven who he really is. He takes every opportunity to vote against
what's best for our country. He's really a piece of work. You must
wonder how much more damage he can do.
@ Flipphone - You asked: " Would all you Democrats be
happy if there were no border security? That anyone could come and go as they
pleased?"A polite and clear question. I hope I can answer it in
the same way.No Democrat, no Republican, no Independent, wants an
open or insecure border.We all want our borders to work efficiently
in allowing legal trade and legal migration to take place.Open
borders is just one among many lies of the current POTUS.Congress
did not approve all the money Mr. Trump asked for the wall. That is true.However, Congress approved a lot of money for Border Security.It is common knowledge that most illegal entry into our country happens at
"Legal Port of Entries". Therefore, we need to strengthen Customs and
ICE post at the borders.Nobody is against walls , where they are
effective. Governing requires the most efficient way to use limited
resources i.e. money.The proposed wall will NOT make our borders
more secure. The proposed wall is just an exorbitant symbol of the power and
influence of a demagogue.History around the globe, show us that many
dictators attempted to preserve their name through massive monuments.
What on earth is in the Constitution to prevent the President of the United
States from securing its southern border? He promised to defend America from
all its enemies foreign and domestic. At least he is.What a swamp DC is -
but what a great president of the United States we have! Utah always opts out
of political activism, hardly anyone reads or cares about the Constitution of
the United States, doesn't believe in freedom or defending it at home,
blindly follows leaders until it gets a really good one. America always does
the right thing, someone said, after trying everything else first. Time,
however, seems to be running out.
The whole tenor of this article is based on the assumption that President Trump
abused the power of the Presidency in order to declare and emergency declaration
to build a wall that for many that feel was unnecessary. I reject that premise.
First, the people on the ground who work for the border patrol have stated
repeatedly this is a crisis. They also gave recommendations to the Congress for
how much was necessary to do their job which included the funding of a wall in
key areas of the border. The wall funding was rejected by Congress and so this
prompted President Trump to make the emergency declaration. I believe that
Senator Lee voted because of the concern he may have had in granting this power
to the President even though President Trump had full legal authority to make
this emergency declaration. I am not sure what were the motives behind Senator
Romney's vote. Needless to say, it is disingenuous for those who voted
against the emergency declaration because it was Congress who granted the
President the authority to do so and then in turn reject all the experts in the
field in voting against the funding of the wall. President Trump simply did what
he legally was allowed to.
Well in my opinion Mitt and Lee got it totally wrong on this one. Expect it
from Mitt but not Lee. The President acting on exactly what got him voted in.
Not his fault congress has done nothing to fix our immigration laws. I just
don’t understand what is wrong with protecting our border so law
enforcement can provide for legal immigration. Many many law enforcement
applaud the president.
unrepentant progressive - Bozeman, MT---In the words of our children
and grandchildren, ROTFL... . Which I can not specifically spell out since an
expletive is involved."Rolling On The Floor -- Laughing"
contains an expletive?---It is only politics, face saving and
brute force that keeps this going. Seems to me the Senators from Utah did the
right thing.---They also need to continue to do the right
thing, and get a 61 vote veto override of other GOP Senators. Otherwise their
current votes are just so much political hot air.Then they need to
use that veto proof collation to enact the Lee, or similar legislation, that
would limit a 'national emergency' to 30 days, unless extended by
Congress. But I don't expect that to happen in a million years.
The GOP could show they are for principled defense of the Constitution, but
I'm not holding my breath.
I need to move to Utah again so I can vote against Mitt. Obama did anything he
wanted and our country will suffer from this for years. By not supporting the
president shows a weakness against a party that is on a self destructive course
against Life.....Liberty and our way of life. I expected much much more out of
you, and several others of the twelve Republicans who did not support our
This issue is not Border Security but Trump's declaration of a National
Emergency. Therefore, it's not about Democrat or Republican politics
(that's for solving the Border Security issue) but about the
Constitutionality of Trump's action. I'm happy that Sen. Lee and
Romney stood up for the Constitution and didn't make it a
Would all you Democrats be happy if there were no border security? That anyone
could come and go as they pleased?
For those who believe GOP Senators and Representatives must be loyal to
President Trump--on what basis?Because he is loyal to them? Not.Because he's a nice guy? Not.Because he is following the law, the
Constitution? Not.Because Trump will vote them back into office? Not.The reality is these Senators and Representatives owe Trump nothing.
Nada. Zilch. They owe their constituents a representative voice in Congress.
They don't owe Trump anything.Additionally, these Senators
& Reps must uphold the US Constitution. What Trump is doing, or attempting
to do, is empower the executive branch beyond what has been established by the
Constitution. What these Senators and Reps owe their constituents
is to uphold, sustain and protect the US Constitution.
@UteFan60“For example, Republicans gave away a trillion
dollars to the ultra rich and corportations”And Obama and
Hillary gave a billions to Iran was it. So what’s your point.
At least the money stayed in America, unlike the former crooks, who lied,
cheated and stole from and to the American people.Every politician
is dirty. They say what they need to to garner votes, and line their pockets.
The quicker people learn that both sides are crooked and quit choosing a side of
the isle the better. Until then, we are hosed by those who lead our country
straight to the bottom of the abyss. I realize some have a conscious. But
right now if they reside on the opposite side of your isle, you don’t like
them. That’s where everyone goes wrong.
I'm disgusted with both of them. We all are aware that Romney is a
President Trump hater but Sen. Lee, whats your excuse for voting not to protect
There is a very, very simple solution to all of this. It doesn't involve
congressional appropriation, theft of money from military projects, or
environmental roadblocks.Just tell Trump to use his much-bragged
about negotiating ability to get Mexico to build a wall---on THEIR side of the
border.It's so simple, it fulfills his promise, and it solves
this alleged emergency. I just don't know why nobody here has suggested
Great Job Romney & Lee you have my vote !!! What you people
don't understand is Romney and Lee aren't denying a border wall their
denying the way Trump is trying to get his border wall by declaring a National
They voted for the Constitution, and good for them. Now they need to be
consistent anbd vote to override the pending veto.
One is not well served to argue about the price and source of water when your
house is on fire. Rescinding the original law is worth of great efforts on
behalf of congress...but not in a time of emergency. Get the barrier and
it's support systems in place now. Argue the merits or demerits of the law
in due course.
Sometimes I don't take the time to comment, but go through and
'like' comments. However, this morning I have to take a few moments
to remind y'all that politicians and the coastal elites live behind walls,
gates and guards. They make sure they are safe - and don't care about us.
They feel virtuous and safe keeping the border open, protecting criminals and
illegal aliens, discontinuing the death penalty (except for babies). We working
folks are just disenfranchised underclass to them - except when they need our
vote. We're too busy working to even notice the slime as they butter us
up. They're counting on our ignorance, hoping we won't notice.
They'd like us to believe we are racist - when really it's about
privileged, 'special' elites lording it over honest, hardworking
Americans. They dish it, we take it. We earn it, they take it. Let us eat
poyman - Draper, UT, too bad that Romney and Lee are not Democrats. They would
be better people for that. The Democrats are for education, quality
health care, womens and minority rights, and honest government. What has the
GOP done? Damaged out world wide reputation? Paid off porn stars? Deflected
from truth and honest? (Alternate Facts).For example, Republicans
gave away a trillion dollars to the ultra rich and corportations already flush
with cash. Now they are eyeing Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Veterans
Benefits, and even robbing from our military in an effort to cover their new
deficits and the wall. (The one Mexico was going to pay for?)Yup,
it would be better if those seats were occupied by Democrats, and hopefully as
people realize that their own Social Security, and Medicare are under attack,
they will elect Democrats.This "porn star Presidency" has to
end. The GOP is losing more and more support. At least Romney and
Lee followed their country, and not the party that is tearing down this nation
and it's wealth.
LDS church leaders understand that the real emergency on the border is
humanitarian in nature and not crimunal. Too bad other Utahans don't
realize that. It's fine to vote against Trump on constitutional grounds,
but maybe republicans in Congress should consider rhat more barriers on the
border are not the end all answer to border security. It's also time for
members of both parties to work together on what's best for the country and
not what's best for party. Concerning refugees, to expect Mexico to
shoulder the whole burden for caring for these "illegal aliens," who are
actually vulnerable human beings, is ridiculous. We have the resources to do
it or at least to be a partner with Mexico in resolving the refugee crisis. As
far as funding a wall, there is already enough of a barrier on the border, most
refugees cross at legal border crossings, and we can't afford it. How much
more debt are we going to pass on to our kids and grandkids. It was costly
pulling out of the deep recession and wars of the Bush presidency. Time to be
done. It's my hope that both sides of the aisle can come together on a
forward looking remedy to the humanitarian situation on our border.
Well, well, is anyone surprised? Our senators vote against OUR president. They
and the rest of the senator's as well as Congress, have had plenty of time
to have a plan to secure our borders. What is their plan? Instead of
having a solution they choose to vote with their friends. It just goes to show
us which part of the swamp that they are in.
Richard B - Obama didn't declare a National Emergency. Trump could have
moved funds around within his allocated budget. Chaffetz actually recommended
that path to Trump. He could have allocated a few billion a year to get this
done. But rather than just using an "executive order", Trump went full
monte and decided to declare a "National Emergency" to move the funds
across budget silos.And the funny thing, is Republicans screamed how
unconstitutional at that time Obama's acts were. And yet now, 3/4rs of
them have no issue. The greater good is worth the means. It's funny how
the same song played by the other band all of a sudden is an issue.Fix the problem, but just within the confines of the constitutional authority
granted. Trump in his own announcement declared this wasn't an emergency,
but he just wanted it done now - his own words. Once again it is his talking
off script that is going to doom his convenient emergency. The
problem is absolutely real. But this isn't the way. Trump has two more
budget cycles to get his money, patience, treating others with respect will get
him there. Lying... wild claims of Mexico paying, not going to get him there.
In the words of our children and grandchildren, ROTFL... . Which I can not
specifically spell out since an expletive is involved. Let us just say, I find
the defenders of the President endlessly amusing in their defense of the
indefensible.This is not about a wall really. It is about the
personality of a President. Trump campaigned on a specious argument that we
needed a great, "beautiful" wall on our Southern border to protect us
from all sorts of bad people. He even said Mexico would pay for it. No serious
person actually believed this proposal. It was/is hyperbole meant to inflame,
not inform.To assuage his ego, the President decides to declare an
"emergency" regarding funding for his compaign promise. You can not
disappoint the base!And the base responds accordingly, slavishly if
you ask me. It is only politics, face saving and brute force that
keeps this going. Seems to me the Senators from Utah did the right thing. And
those who say they might withhold support over this have really got me ROTFL...
. Does anyone seriously think that either of these men could not win their
nomination, and certain re-election if they wanted it?
Careful what you vote fore!
Excellent. They support the wall and the constitution. Proud of our senators
I was a big supporter of these two Senators. I worked on both campaigns and
donated to the max a couple of times for Romney... but today they totally
disgust me. I will never vote for either of these two again. Both should have to
take their families to the border and hang out for a week instead of taking
family vacations. The border is a disaster... Trump tried to go through congress
to get the money for a wall or a barrier but was unsuccessful (mostly because
the Reeps couldn't come together while the Dems are in lock step.They should be totally ashamed of themselves... In fact they should be writing
personal apology letters to the families who have been impacted by illegal
immigration. Tonight I declare a political divorce with both of
these guys. If they are going to join forces with Democrats we may as well have
Democrats in their seats. I am totally ashamed of the fact that I voted for both
of them... Never again.
Defending the country is the number one duty of government.If Mitt
and Mike won't do what they elected to do than it's time to get out
and let someone else do the job.For those who think there is no
emergency. You're living in ignorance.
Perhaps we should be spending billions of dollars to shut down the demand for
illegal drugs in this country by providing drug treatment and prevention
services to Americans instead of a wall. Let's invest in the American
people instead of a non-living metal structure.
@walking man24Not so fast there. Donald Trump WILL be eligible to
run in 2024 if Beto beats him in 2020.🤔
Well, so disappointed in both Lee and Romney! I moved to Utah from CA because
of the disaster illegal immigration has created in that state. The schools,
hospitals, justice system & welfare programs have all been overrun due to
the massive illegal immigration. Add the drugs brought in through the Mexican
border and the state is a total mess.
Obama re-appropriated money for DACA. It didn't fund itself. The
application fee did not come close to funding it for the several years it's
been in existence. Other Presidents have used the law, I am
disappointed in Lee.
Yes this is about a border wall. Mike Lee and the rest of the republicans in the
house and senate had 2 years to pass funding for the border wall, (Romney 6
months+-). They spent the first 18 months fighting Trump on everything that he
did and said, because he wasn't the conventional Politician. Yes he is a
little rough around the edges. Now our Senators say that they support the
border. Where were they the past 2 years? They had the White house, House and
Senate. Why wasn't it passed then? Don't give me that they need 60
votes to pass a bill. How did we get Obamacare without 60 votes in the
senate?If our 2 Senators are serious about the wall, Either they need to
get the funding for the wall now, or They and their Staff need to go to the
border and start digging post holes for the wall themselves.
Good for them. The trump emergency is a farce.
It will be interesting to see what the Supreme Court will have to say. As far as
Romney goes, most of us knew what he was before he was elected and so no
surprises there. With Lee it is interesting due to his consideration for the
Supreme Court. Will his Senate vote align with the Courts decision?At the end of the day it seems almost criminal for Congress to appose national
security in favor of illegal immigration. These are concerning times.
It’s a FACT that the wall is needed. Should it require a national
emergency. No. But the lack of common sense is not allowing it to happen to try
and garner votes. FACT. Of the reports given in drugs alone, in total pounds
more drugs are collected in areas outside of ports of entry, areas with no
walls, FACT. In areas with partial walls the flow has been slowed. FACT. Enough
drugs cross the border to kill 56 Million Americans. To quote one politician,
“Is that not an emergency?” A wall will slow the flow, if not shut
it off. FACT. To those who talk about tunneling under, or climbing over, if you
can stop the leak, that’s a good thing. If you can’t stop it it but
slow it, that’s a good thing. The wall is a good thing. FACT
The Take Care Clause says “take Care that the Laws be faithfully
executed."President Trump is trying to do just that. Congress
has done nothing but abuse its power and stand in the way of combating the
illegal immigration and the President has every right to press forward.
@E GoldsteinOh, please.Donald Trump is NOT a tyrant nor
does he aspire to be.He is the best thing that has happened to this
country in many years.What is wrong with national prosperity.
zcott - North Las Vegas, NV---Trump ran and won the presidency on
the promise of a wall. Romney and Lee vote against the wishes of the majority
again.---Trump also claimed that Mexico would pay for the
Wall. Tariffs don't cost the sending country, they cost the receiving
customers, in this case those in the US. Drug money is not
'Mexico's', but money paid by those in the US that pay for
illegal drugs, again Mexico is not paying for the Wall.As for the
'majority', given that the recent election made for a significant
change in the 'majority' House representation, one can infer that the
majority has spoken relative to whatever Trump promised, and whatever Trump and
the GOP has done in the past 2 years of their lock tight majority on
government.And now, the majorities in both Houses of Congress have
spoken.The majority of Americans are not 'loving' their
decimated health plans, the majority are not happy with their 'tax
sop' of perhaps 2 dollars a week, if that.The majority are
disgusted with Trump and the fountain of lies, misstatements, the
'nicknames', the endless tweets that show a complete lack of thinking,
planning, and leading.
"This is not about the president. This is not about my disagreement with or
disapproval of the president or his approach to border security or his approach
to build a barrier along our southern border. I think all those things need to
happen,” Lee, R-Utah, said."But this law, Mr. President, is
wrong. It’s not President Trump's fault. It Congress'."So, by your vote you managed to either limit or more carefully define
the authority granted in the National Emergency Act? By your action is the law
now "right"?Other than giving aid and comfort to Nancy, what
have you accomplished? The POTUS still has the same authority and you know
restricting it won't even be considered in the House. Therefore, any future
POTUS is just as likely to use this authority. as if you had rejected this
rejection.What you have accomplished is going on record as a
supporter of the Democrats and open boarders.As for Romney, you
would have thought after the election he would have given up on his "never
Trumper" tirade. By invoking the constitution he is judging the
constitutionality of the NEA, not this declaration.Can't wait
for the next election
Good for the Senators. Reason and the Constitution prevail.
Thank goodness Mitt did what I voted him in for. He stood up to President
Trump. I am also proud of Senator Lee. I was afraid he would show himself to
be spineless and cow to party and Trump, but he stood for what he believes in.
Thank you for your moral courage!
@KSUBYUYes, it is his right to declare the emergency, and
congress's right (and responsibility) to vote it down if they feel he
abused the power. It is written in the law.
Well of course Mr. Never Trump (Romney) would not vote in favor of the right
given by Congress to use this power by the President. If he had to confront
the Dems in Congress today he would given into them every time. We are so lucky
he never made it. Obama was terrible but Romney is spineless. Lee is another
establish GOP with no future in this party. Get ready boys the wave is coming
in 2020 and you will be looking from the outside in.
I love the comments "they lost my vote"....That's laughable; who
else would you possibly vote FOR?
The wall will be built, one way or another. Get the wall built and move on to
the next build: our much-needed infrastructure. Especially in the eastern half
of the nation. Their stuff is really falling apart. Make America great
again.A Trump Supporter In Draper.
Something very wrong when those you vote into office will not defend your
country.Mike Lee and Mitt Romney! Your excuse if pathetic.How many more Americans need to die before you do something about it?
The constitutional scholars are on the side of Trump for this debate. Mitt
and Mike, you guys are just constitutional bush-leaguers.
Good to see the reddest of the red states suddenly turn blue over this vital
separation of powers issue.Hannity and Limbaugh must be about to
self-combust right now. GOP is losing traction within the GOP. The gears are
slipping. Time for another WikiLeaks Hillary email dump. Am I right,
@UtahBlueDevil:"We need better border security."The
way to get it is to build a border barrier. That's what Trump wants done.
The Democrat leadership also wanted a barrier which they voted for several years
ago but now are apposed to it. The question is... why? Well, it's not
hard to figure. They wanna increase their voter base. An easy way to do it is
to let illegals in by the millions... then give them authorization to vote.
They don't have to pass a law to do this. Just let states (like sanctuary
state California) do it. In California (and perhaps other states now) voting
authorization (including federal) comes with getting a driver's license."We need new immigration laws. We don't have those
today."we'll never get new immigration laws while the Dems
control part of Congress."Proud both Lee and Romney are putting
the country and constitution ahead of loyalty to Trump."The
Constitution sez the president can veto a Congressional bill. Trump will do
that. Then he can get the funding for the wall.
Rick for Truth - Provo, UT---To deny that there a border emergency
is utter lunacy. Both Senators have put politics over national security. They
have lost my support and vote.---There is no 'national
emergency' at the US/Mexico Border. In fact, the numbers show that from
2000 the number of arrests at the border are down by significant numbers.The areas where there are large populations on both sides of the border
have had many forms of barriers and patrolling to limit those wanting to cross
outside of the authorized ports of entry.The places where the
barriers are less, are more often dotted with dead bodies of those who have died
from exposure to the desert conditions. The drug trade uses
authorized ports of entry, and many forms of hiding contraband, or corrupting
officials, to transport their 'product'. A 'wall' does
nothing to stop such. In fact, it takes efforts away from those areas.But this president loves distractions to cover his inadequacies as a leader,
or a planner. He failed to lead when the Republicans had a lock tight majority,
and now, he is showing even less capability.
Trump ran and won the presidency on the promise of a wall. Romney and Lee vote
against the wishes of the majority again.
Listening to the Rod Arquette show, Romney says President Trump will get the
money for the needed border security just through different avenues.This
is good news.
For though of you who support the constitution -fine. But when congress will not
do its job and pass laws that will give the American people security at the
border. Whose constitutional responsibility is it then???? Have any of you seen
Romney or Lee come up with a bill on immigration?? There is to much ideological
garbage and not enough common scene!!!!
It is good to see Senators Lee and Romney voting their conscience . They set a
good example today for other Senators to follow in the next go around.
Good-bye Lee and Romney... you won't get my vote n the next election.Republicans should be supporting Republicans... otherwise they might
just well become Democrats.
If it was about separation of power, why did they allow DACA?
Chuck Schumer is praising Mitt Romney.
"One thing about the democrats. They always stay together no matter what the
issue is. But some republicans have a real problem supporting the president
which we elected. Come on Romney and Lee, get on board with the program. It
isn't about you."A few points:1. That's
not true. See the recent resolution regarding Rep Omar's comments. Dems are
willing to break against their own if it's the right thing to do.2. Isn't disagreeing with your own party a sign of strength, not
weakness?3. Rigid political tribalism and voting 100% with your
party is a big problem in this country. Our representatives should represent us,
not the party. I consider myself more liberal, but I'm hesitant to call
myself a democrat because you should always be open to changing your mind about
the right decision.
I am ashamed of Mike Lee and Mitt Romney. Not only does President Trump have to
go it alone against the democrats, members of his own party won't stand
behind him. The MAJOR reason the democrats don't want the wall is that it
was the biggest promise President Trump made to Americans during his campaign.
The democrats don't want him to have any success but stopping the wall is
seen as the best way to stop the President and see that he isn't re-elected
in 2020. I understand the concern about what the democrats might do in the
future but that bridge needs to be crossed when we come to it. If a democrat is
elected in 2020 you can kiss the constitution goodbye.
Members of congress are great at arm-chair quarterbacking, pontificating,
analyzing, and criticizing . . . but, they haven't done much really
productive in literally years. The RINOs managed to sit on their hands long
enough to give the House back to the Democrats, and prove that they're
essentially of the same ilk. Then we get an actual leader who wants to do
something actually productive, and use the U. S. Department of Defense to defend
the United States, as opposed to defending Afghanistan, Syria, South Korea, and
hundreds of other places; so what do members of congress do? Something very
uncharacteristic . . . they start talking about the Constitution, as if
that's what we need to suddenly focus on now. Amazing.
One thing about the democrats. They always stay together no matter what the
issue is. But some republicans have a real problem supporting the president
which we elected. Come on Romney and Lee, get on board with the program. It
isn't about you.
"I hope Trump will run again in 2024. He is the strongest Leader and best
President we have had in a long time. Trump's strong Leadership will keep
our Constitution safe for generations to come!Make America Great
Again!"Uh, you realize Trump cannot run in 2024, right?
This has never been about security, but race. Trump keeps redefining the excuse
for the wall. Why didn't he declare this emergency or get the money when he
had both McConnell and Ryan in charge? All of a sudden, when Speaker Pelosi is
in charge, now it's an emergency? His opening foray into presidential
politics when he announced articulated his bigotry. The border has and always
will be an issue. What is needed in comprehensive compassionate immigration
legislation. Yes, there is drugs ,crime and human trafficking. A wall will not
stop these activities. All members of the Church of Jesus Christ know the
history of discrimination where members were chased back and forth to Mexico. I
hope both Senators will teach this lesson and require that the President do
more than howl like a baby. Maybe they could offer legislation to move the
This wasn't about the alleged national emergency, it had everything to do
with the separation of powers. Hats off to Senators Lee and Romney.
While I have some sympathy/agreement with Mike Lee's concern about the
separation of powers and holding the President to his constitutional powers we
are, in reality, not much of a constitutional republic any more. Probably even
more than even the practice of "living" constitutionalism practiced by
the courts the thing that has most eviscerated "government by the
people" is the rise and power of the administrative state. Congress has
certainly played a key role in transferring unaccountable power to
administrative executive agencies that in reality do not answer even to the
chief executive. Congress' role has essentially been reduced to that of
"handmaiden" to the administrative state-- which is certainly not
answerable to the people. It seems as if the Presidency is almost the only
vehicle where the voice of the people has any real pull--and that's only
because a stubborn fighter outside of the establishment was elected. I support
the President's exercise of his emergency powers to take some steps at the
border to keep our sovereignty so we don't just become a place on the map
without borders governed, unaccountably, by the administrative state.
@Out of the Blue:I hope Trump will run again in 2024. He is the
strongest Leader and best President we have had in a long time. Trump's
strong Leadership will keep our Constitution safe for generations to come!Make America Great Again!
I usually restrain myself to comment in the DN in subjects other than Faith or
Social Issues. I like to stay away from Utah politics because I have the
politics of my own State of Virginia to worry about.Today I'm
making an exception. After reading the many comments in the DN supporting
Senators Romney and Lee I feel hope for the future of the state of Utah. On the
other hand, it worries me the amount of comments with no base on truth or
reality.Democracy can only survive with a well informed citizenry.
We can disagree, actually, it is expected that we disagree and have diverse
points of view. But I think we would agree that we should look for the truth
and base our opinion on facts. I fear that while Senator Lee (to my surprise) is
doing the right thing, many in his constituency are not ready to put the Country
and the Constitution before their sectarian ideas.
I can't believe Lee & Rommey. I guess they are democrats now. This
country needs a border and Trump is right on in trying to do something about it.
Can any one tell me how we are going to take care of all these people coming
into the U.S. 25 or 30 years from now. Where is the money going to come from.
All there will be is more homeless and more problems. Trump could jump off of
the tallest building in down town Salt Lake and the Dems and the Media would
criticize him for not doing a double flip on the way down. I think Lee and
Rommey would be the first. Trump is the best President that this
country has had in the last 50 years. He has got more done than any President
has with out any help from Dems or Repubs or the media. Just think what could
of have been down with just a little help and support.
@Jim G"Obama made a dozen Emergency Declarations and Trump has done
only three. So, where was the outrage over Executive Constitutional overreach
during the previous administration?"Same reason there
wasn't outrage over the first three Trump did (this is his fourth). All but
one of Obama's and Trump's others were standard sanctions reactions.
Obama's other one was about the H1N1 epidemic. None of Obama's, or the
others by Trump, were based on losing a budget fight and deciding they were just
going to do whatever they want no matter what. That's the line that was
crossed, bypassing Congress to redirect authorized spending to other projects.
@rick for truth Romney and Lee’s approach is the opposite to
“puting politics over security” or I would say “puting
politics over country”. They are puting the country first and the politics
second, which is what I would hope any sensible and rationale leader would do.
They are not against border security, they are against one branch of government
usurping the power of another. America is not a kingdom or a dictatorship. When
we disagree as a group of people, the majority rules and the minority works
within the law to change the majority’s mind. If you are saying that the
minority should just change the rules when a decision doesn’t go their
way, then you will have a land that does not live by the rule of law and
eventually civility will cease.
@banliberals - Bountiful, UTAs a "fellow mormon" I
don't understand why you would have such animosity toward people with a
liberal philosophy. While I see myself as a conservative, I do not hate
liberals, nor do I see them as enemies. They may have a different view of how to
help people be happier, safe, and successful, but I don't think that makes
them bad people. Not once have I ever heard from the pulpit anything about not
voting for liberal politicians.In fact the only counsel I remember
hearing was to choose leaders of good character and integrity.
When Mike Lee is called a RINO we are truly in a strange place. If Trump wins
re-election in 2020, there will not be a single "true Republican" left
by 2024. Trump will have to run again!
It is a shame to see such disloyalty to our Leader among the so-called statesmen
of the U.S. Senate.Donald J Trump knows that our nation needs wall.
He will build that wall! Only he can do this.But the weak and
spineless Senators and Congressmen claim that only they can control the funding.
Haven't they read the Constitution? The President is commander in chief,
and can do what is necessaary for our national security.Trump had
this showdown once before, when Congress insisted on shutting down the
government, rather than building wall. Trump had to take unprecedented
emergency measures to build wall.Now congress is whining and
delaying again. Perhaps more emergency measures will be needed. Perhaps we
need to dissolve congress, for the good of the Constitution. I, for one,
won't miss them!
To deny that there a border emergency is utter lunacy. Both Senators have put
politics over national security. They have lost my support and vote.
It's so funny how the left says they are for border security. They just pay
it a bunch of lip service and will never get anything done.The
legislative process will never get anything done about this. If you think
otherwise I have some land to sell you. The only means of getting this done has
been left in the hands of war and bloodshed since congress has surrendered all
interest in this matter.
This has everything to do with building the wall. It is not about the
Constitution. One can find as many Constitutional scholars standing with Trump
as there are standing against him on the issue of his Emergency Declaration. I
am ashamed of Utah Senators Lee and Romney for not supporting the President and
for cow towing to the Democrat's insistance upon open borders. I consider
Lee and Romney to be RINOs (Republican In Name Only).
I agree we need to secure out border. Truly do. But if I were to believe the
hyperbole from the far right, that there was truly a national emergency, the
President could simply instruct new basis be built along our southern border and
place 100,000 troops down there. If there were truly an emergency. Bet Trumps
hasn't... because there isn't an emergency.I'm proud
that Utah elected two representatives that will not bend to extremist views and
voted for rather for a constitutional solution. Trump supporters seem oblivious
to the dangers to their own agenda by allowing Trump's action stand. Just
two years ago these very same people were outraged that the then sitting
President "abused" his power to use the executive order. This action
by Trump opens that door yet even wider. Remember Trump has spent
his first two years trying to wipe out Obama's agenda. Allowing this act
to stand opens that door even wider for anyone who follows Trump to unilaterally
make massive policy change without any regard towards congress or the will of
If the house or Senate was concerned about a president using emergency powers
they should have changed it years ago. Their only concern is protecting a open
border. They are all talk on border security.
I do not know who said it first, but "beware of wolves in sheep's
We actually have people on this forum (bemorefair) who are advocating taking
away the right to vote from American citizens and passing judgement on who is a
"true American"! Then preaches to us using a poem submitted to raise
funds for a government project. Keep your arrogant morality to yourself.
You're talking like a agent of tyranny.
I am ashamed that both of these men are our Senators.If they wish to make
"real" change they need to recind or change the power that congress gave
the president back in the 1970s. The president has the power to do this,
and it will hold up in the Supreme Court.
Romney is a vile, power-hungry carpetbagger. I still have respect for Lee, but
it is eroding quickly. They've done nothing to "protect" the
constitution or the balance of power. Activist judges who legislate from the
bench have already made a mockery of the Constitution. Where's the outrage
about that from those here so concerned about the Constitution? Congress has
done nothing about ridiculous laws that allow illegal immigrants to invade our
country, break our laws, abuse our generosity, increase our tax burden, take our
jobs, lower our wages, commit crimes and sometimes bring disease. Trump
isn't perfect....but he is trying to do something. Congress has proven
itself worthless as an agent for the protection and well-being of American
If you think there is a border crisis severe enough to warrant an emergency
declaration by the sitting president of the United States, you deserve to have
your right to vote taken away. You are too naive and unable to view politics
logically. That is not to say we should leave immigration policies
the way they are. Congress needs to grow a collective spine and improve our
nations immigration laws. There should be no tolerance for drug runners and gang
members bringing violence north. However, if you are a true American, you will
see how plainly incongruent and xenophobic Trump's immigration stance
really is. These words should be etched in everyone's minds
that enjoys the freedom our great men and women of uniform have worked so
courageously to provide us. Give me your tired, your poor,Your
huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your
teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,I lift my
lamp beside the golden door!Bravo, Senator Romney! Bravo, Senator
@stantonNo one is arguing the presidents ability to declare a
national emergency. What’s wrong is going against the will of the
legislature when they specifically refused to appropriate money for a wall and
unilaterally declaring a national emergency when there isn’t an actual
Congrats M&M (Mike and Mitt)...you have certainly energized the democrat
Is that the faint whiff of moral courage I smell coming out of Mitt and Mike
offices today? Breathe it in, gents. Feels almost like freedom doesn’t it!
Heres to 30 more years of kicking the can down the road.
THANK YOU to both senators lee and Romney. Way to put partisanship to the side
and vote to uphold the document you both swore to protect.
Our country had not had a leadership vacuum coming out of the WH, of this
magnitude in decades. Trump ran on his ability to get deals done but he's
proven to be all bluster and no mustard.
I can't wait for the "Very Presidential Tweets" to come! :)!!!Finally, the Senators from Utah are representing me!
How does voting down President Trump's Emergency Declaration do anything to
stop him nor any other president from doing the same thing in the future? Romney
and Lee's vote isn't about protecting the Constitution. It's
about sticking it to President Trump. It creates a double-standard for him when
previous presidents going back to 1976 Emergency Declarations Act had this power
(that was granted by Congress). To Senator Lee's credit, he proposed
legislation to retain the good aspects of the 1976 legislation with a provision
to require legislative branch approval. His legislation is appropriate, but his
voting down President Trump's use of the power afforded him by Congress in
1976 is wrong. As for Senator Romney, I'm not surprised that he is voting
like a Democrat.
Utah roars!Way to go, Utah.
Our country is being flooded by illegals and criminals and these two Utah
Senators vote against protecting American. Shameful.
What amazes me the most, is that Romney knows full well, the magnitude and
seriousness of the issues at our southern boarder. And he knows that Trump gave
the democrats "numerous" opportunities to work with him - But, once they
took the House, they were very clear and public that they would never support
Trump in anything. They left Trump no choice but to declare a national
emergency. It's a well known fact that the democrats; Pelosi and Shumer,
included, want open boarders. Apparently, Romney does too. But, that
doesn't surprise me in the least. He's a republican in name only
(RINO). Knowing what's going on at the southern boarder, he should be
Thank you Senator Romney for your courage to do the right thing. The
“Bully” will continue his blustering with his veto and continued
disregard for our constitution and our civility, but an important statement by
our Senate was made today!
So sick of all this political maneuvering. And the border goes another day
without being secured!!!!
Thank Heaven! Finally, these two decided to stand up for the Constitution and
the American public and put principles above party. Let's pray it
Oh by the way, this is a no harm, no foul vote. Trump is going to veto it
anyway, and they know it.
Thanks Mitt Romney for making the right decision. No president in either party
should have that kind of control... The economy is great and I appreciate most
of the Trump policies, however this just goes too far. It would be a step closer
I'm not a fan of the emergency declaration by Trump. I think if that great
of a contract negotiator, he can woo congress. Congress by the Constitution
controls the purse strings.I don't want any money from the
military budget being used to build the wall. We need that for ammo and other
weapons and new ships, planes, etc. Welfare is another matter. Take it from
there, I'm fine.IF Lee is not in favor, I would agree. He
knows more about the Constitution than anyone in Congress. If he thinks it is
presidential overreach, then he's most likely right.Good for
both of them.Don't bag on Mitt for doing the right thing and
agreeing with Lee. We elected him to be responsible.
Yes romney's a wolf in sheep's clothing. I voted for him because the
alternative was a democrat. But romney votes as a democrat so I guess it
didn't matter either way. Utah got the shaft with him.
1aggie - Salt Lake City, UTMarch 14, 2019 11:02 a.m.majmajor:"Obama created more laws though executive order "As has
every president. ------Thanks! You've proven my point.
Congress needs to do the hard work, and NOT allow ANY president to legislate
from the White House. It is work dedicated to the Congress in the Capital
Building.It is wrong no matter the party. The process is more
important the almost any single-issue.
Common sense. That's why I voted for Romney.
I told you, my fellow mormons, that Mitt is not a conservative! He is a
liberal, like McCain/Obama!
God job Senators Lee and Romney. I’m not ready to live under a delusional
Once again I'm disappointing in Mr. Romney. There really IS a BIG problem
at the border and the President has every right to declare it as the Emergency
that is IS. Overreach is not the issue on this one. Get on the right track
@Jim Gthe congress passed significant funding for border security recently
it was not the funding for what you, thid or Trump wanted but that does not
equate to doing nothing. @thissee above
These statements voicing concerns about newly-found Constitutional issues are
just for public consumption. What this vote really does is provide cover for the
Democrats, who will NEVER support border law enforcement and national security,
because unvetted illegal immigrants, along with threats of drugs, trafficking,
crime and violence, are a constant source of imported Democrat voters.
Cool. Now what are you going to do about the problems at the border? I think a
bill that negates the emergency declaration by actually addressing the emergency
in a constitutional way was the thing to do. That's a big fat missed
opportunity and doesn't leave us much of an alternative to Trump's
kind of leadership.
@Thid "partisan of the year" Barker..... and what about Lee... is he
one of Romney's Democrat friends too.Lets he super duper honest
here. For two years the Republicans owned the White House, the Senate and the
House. Exactly how many solutions made it to a vote, or on to the Presidents
desk. The answer would be a whopping zero. Nada. Nothing in two years. The
priorities... a tax cut, and a trade war with Canada and Mexico. Trying to take the high ground here is a bit of a stretch. And it
doesn't stop with the last two years. Bush tried to address this problem,
and it was his own party that shut down the conversation. There is
enough blame to go around for all. Saying one party is pure here and the other
is doing nothing is really a total mischaracterization of reality. Neither has
done much to fix this....
From memory, this is the first President that has actually done something other
than talk about it to secure the border. It is a pity that the GOP hasn't
the courage to stand up and be counted and support the president. It seems that
the GOP is more interested in attacking Trump then supporting him, using any
excuse to do so.
I must admit I am pleasantly surprised to hear that Lee and Romney have decided
to vote in favor of the constitution. It is especially vital right now that the
separation of powers remains robust and clearly maintained. Misusing the
"break glass in case of emergency" provision for political gain must not
stand. Now if they would talk to a few colleagues, ahem, Stewart, Bishop,
Curtis, about overriding a veto I'd really be surprised and impressed!
Over the past few decades it is obvious our border protection been weak. We
have been betrayed by those we put in charge to protect our country.Drug trafficking has hurt and killed many of our citizens. Politicians have
been lax with enforcing laws and seem to invite drug trafficking.Thank you Mr Trump for your efforts to protect our country.
There are laws already on the books that President Trump can use. Why
doesn't Senator Lee support President Trump in using those instead of just
voting down his declaration??? As we wait, thousands of more illegals pour
across the border.....
The math is easy...1. No wall - Democrat president in 20202.
Build the wall - Republican president in 2020You decide!
Sen. Romney could do worse than vote in lockstep with the senior senator, Sen.
Lee.Notwithstanding, this vote does make Mitt look like a weakling.
It seems as though he was just looking for an excuse to vote against a bill
President Trump supports, and he conveniently found one in Mike Lee's
principled position. If Sen. Romney wants to build a reputation as a
strong conservative, he better make sure his statements on border security
aren't just lip service. As other commenters have proposed, Mitt: get
something done! If you want our respect, build the wall, fix legal immigration,
propose a temporary worker program, rationalize DACA, all without giving away
citizenship. President Trump can't do it all himself. So roll up your
sleeves and show us why you would have been a great president by getting
Tolstoy: Yes I read the article but it contained NO solutions! Same old
monotonous obstructionism. In the meantime, America is awash in illegal drugs
and human traffickers pouring across our southern border and these people have
one goal: Stop Trump, not drug smugglers and human traffickers! Romney and
Democrats are keeping these evil doers in business!
Congress is like a slow car on a turnpike. It is holding back other cars and
needs to be passed. Congress has been sitting on their big moons all these years
and Trump went around the slow car. Lee and Romney need to rent a Motel 6 in
Nogales Arizona and see what really is going on at the border--roll their
sleeves up and participate with the border patrol. However, both are "silver
spooned" that this will never happen.
Trump treats the Constitution as something to get around. But Senate Republicans
must not allow this to be made into a loyalty test for a Republican President
making this a defining issue for his Presidency. The duty of Congress,
regardless of party affiliation is to uphold the Constitution. For Senate
Republicans, this vote is their moment of truth.
Though highly embarrassing to Trump, what needs to happen is enough Senators
vote to override Trump's veto. That would send a very strong and good
message to Americans that the Constitution matters and is pre-eminent in
American law and politics.As Romney said, a border barrier is
needed, but writing such a thing into law requires following the correct
Romney - making John McCain proud every day!Lee - preparing to become a
commentator a la Chaffetz?
I'm getting old and my memory is a little off, but it seems to me that we
wouldn't be here with this problem today if our dear president had just
accepted the first offer from the House, but no he had to shut down the country
over less money for his border wall. Now he is using executive orders and
wanting to rob other organizations for more money (like medicare and medicaid),
for his wall. He is going at this all wrong. He is just digging himself
deeper and deeper into a hole. I am with Senator Romney on this one. Time to
put a halt on this run away train which reminds me of Old Number 9 that was
going down that trestle in Virginia in the early 1900's at 90 miles an
hour. The train jumped the trestle and crashed below killing the engineer and
others. Kind of reminds me of where our country is going today. Let's not
let this train get away from us..
Utah needs to vote out MItt! he is not one of us.
Anything that goes against President Trump makes D news headlines. lol
Nobody gave the President authority to reallocate money that Congress earmarked
for something else. Obama did not do it. Trump is the first to try this and it
violates the Constitution that so many claim to revere. This is the issue. Not a
OK..then why was the Constitution not upheld during Obama's power grab?
Our elected representatives and Supreme Court did nothing to uphold the
Constitution on the powergrab of Obamacare and DACA, but now are all about
protecting the constitution when Trump is doing what he has to do to protect out
borders. DC is a swamp and the one guy who is trying to clean it up gets
hammered even from the people who should have his back.
For once Mitt got one right. Good job!
majmajor:"Obama created more laws though executive order "As has every president. Total umber of executive orders by
Pres:Nixon: 346Ford: 169Carter: 320Reagan: 381H.W.
Bush: 166Clinton: 364George Bush: 291Obama: 276
If this vote is any indication of things to come what will happen to Trump if
the Muellar report strongly indicates criminal activity while T rump has been in
It is refreshing to see the Republican party finally growing a backbone and
standing up to Trump. They certainly have been complicit to his actions the
past two+ years.
Good! Executive over-reach is an extremely dangerous precedent to allow, and it
is a pity it has been permitted to go this far before some of our officials are
finally willing to stand up to their own party about it instead of just
criticizing the opposite party. Whether through abuse of executive orders or
through declaring unwarranted "national emergencies," it is dangerous to
allow the president to go unchecked and circumvent the separation of powers, no
matter which party that president claims to be from and no matter whether or not
their political agenda aligns with our own preferences.
Could we expect anything different
The president's use of the emergency declaration IS constitutional
(otherwise they would stop it in court) and is a sadly necessary measure to
fulfill the campaign promises for which we elected him. Those of his own party
who don't support him now will be voted out of office. The argument that
this emergency declaration will lead to abuses of presidential power is a red
herring because future such actions will be judged against the constitutional
authority on their own merits. The rule of law must be paramount in this
country or we will have nothing. Immigration (both legal and illegal) will stop
because there will be no difference between our nation and those to the south.
The socialists want this, of course, because there will be no prosperity and we
will all be dependent on them for handouts.
I am all for building the Wall, but when Lee, who understands the Constitution
better than most people, said he is opposing Trump's emergency declaration,
I decided that an emergency declaration is not the right way. Still upset with
the Dems for not negotiating with Trump in good faith!
@TolstoyActions speak louder than words. Claiming to support border
security, while voting against efforts to support it, is not an act of courage,
it is a statement that Romney is content to be part of a do-nothing Senate.
This is sure a political heyday farce. Congress gave this power to the
executive branch. Was it wrong to do so yes. Now they want to stop this one
use of the power because they hate the president. Democrats threatened the
Republicans they would use the power to remove constitutional rights. The GOP
freaked, got to stop the president. The Dems might follow through on their
threats.When Pelosi was asked about removing this authority from the
executive branch, she said the dems would not take this from the executive
branch. Why, because Dems want the power to remove constitutional rights.
It seems as though a little selective outrage is going on here. Obama made a
dozen Emergency Declarations and Trump has done only three. So, where was the
outrage over Executive Constitutional overreach during the previous
administration? This vote by Romney, based on some newly found constitutional
concerns, is really about Senatorial impotence and territoriality, at the
expense of national security.
It's unfortunate that there always seem to be a handful of Republicans
willing to side with Democrats on important issues, but the inverse doesn't
ever seem to happen. That's why over time, the Progressives get their way
and impose changes in society. Sorry Senator, but it's
unlikely that a future Democrat President would think back at the time that the
Establishment Republicans betrayed Trump and decide they better not impose some
sort of Progressive executive order. Look at what Obama did with
DACA, ACA-related mandates, etc... It's interesting that the Senate
didn't react to Executive overreach then, outside of a few lawsuits.
Wow. So this is how it feels to actually be happy with how both of Utah's
senators vote on an issue. I've always wondered about that.
I wish Romney would spend more of his energy pushing back against the radical
democrat agenda. Enhanced Border security has the potential to save American
lives, reduce the flow of drugs and illegal aliens into the country. Romney,
get on board and support building the wall. Opposing the president every chance
you get does not make you look strong to members of your party, it makes you
look like a democrat.
@Thid BarkerDid you actually read the article Thid? Romney very clearly
stated what he supports in terms of border security. Again, just because you
don't like what someone is saying doe snot mean they are not offering any
solutions. I disagree with Romney on some of his ideas but that doesn't
mean he "offered no solutions."
Republicans just don’t understand teamwork!
I guess we should all be thankful Romney was only voted in as the junior senator
from Utah and not President of the USA...
Sure Mitt, vote the Emergency Declaration down. PLEASE remember that it is in
the absence of leadership for border that the Emergency Declaration surfaced.
I continue to be unimpressed by belated reactionary responses. I
continue to see criticism with no solutions. We voted you in. Make
us proud by leading proactively instead of reacting when you think it is safe.
Mitt polled his E2 pals and they told him they wanted to continue with cheap
labor.Mitt polled his globalist oligarchs and they wanted open
borders.Ergo, Mitt punts on this one, claiming he fears imbalance in
the powers. RINOs gotta play the game.
Both senators are absolutely correct in their stance. I expected this from Mitt
and am pleasantly surprised Lee stood up to Trump.While portions of
the border need physical barriers (as we currently have in many of these
places), Trump's battle on this is pure politics. It is executive
overreach and cannot be defended. This is the right move. If Trump
wants his wall, he needs congressional approval on spending. To declare an
emergency and use a harmless caravan as propaganda is shameful. Let's send
troops in the middle of the desert hundreds of miles away from this
"dangerous" caravan purely for political grandstanding. Trump needs to have an honest conversation with all parties involved and stop
the grandstanding. His supporters need to wake up to the fact of his lies and
Good.If Trump ultimately vetoes the will of Congress to get his way, it
will expose him as the absolute tyrant he wants to be. And then his supporters
will be forced to answer the question, "Do you really want to live in a
dictatorship?" Sadly, it seems that many of them do.
I was not surprised that Romney and his Democrat pals have offered no solutions
to the human traffickers and Mexican drugs pouring across our border! If you are
not part of the solution, then you might be complicit!
I'm sorry, but this IS a vote against border security, despite
Romney's claims. We have had security issues at the border for years, and
numerous families have been victimized by crime, drugs, trafficking, and
violence as a consequence. All the while, Congress has played politics with the
issue, either unable or unwilling to confront the threat. Romney's vote is
a vote for more of the same. If the border is controlled, there is latitude to
allow for compassionate immigration. If not, we will continue to face a flood of
unvetted individuals with unknown goals coming across the border.
Thank heavens. Everyone, no matter where they stand on the wall issue, should be
able to see this has to stop.Setting a precedent of abusing
emergency powers gives future Democratic presidents a blank check to throw away
the law whenever they think it's in their interest to do so. It also
vindicates every dictator around the world, from Venezuela to Turkey to North
Korea, who keeps their citizens in a constant state of emergency so they can
exert unlimited force on their own citizens.
Our US congress continues to kick the can down the road which is something they
excel at. Their inability to get important things done is the reason for their
ineptitude in fixing the real issues/problems we have in this country. It's
also the reason they only have a 19% approval rating.
Agree with both Senators on this issue. This is above partisanship, this is a
separation of powers issue.Obama created more laws though executive
order and moved more money around. Both presidents were overreaching. It needs
This isn't about border security. It isn't about the wall. It's
about supporting the Constitution. President Trump's emergency declaration
is unconstitutional. How is defending the Constitution being a
"RINO"?We do not want the President to have the power to
override Congress anytime he sees fit. Eventually we will unfortunately have a
Democrat president again. Do we (Conservatives) really want him or her to have
the precedent to declare a national emergency for whatever it is the Democrats
want to get done when they fail to do so through the proper channels?I am glad that we have Senators representing Utah who don't blindly
follow an imperfect President but instead boldly defend the Constitution, even
when it is unpopular. Trump has done some good stuff as President, and Senators
Lee and Romney have supported him when he does so. In this case, however, the
President is wrong.
Well done, Senator Romney. Congress needs to protect their constitutional
authority to manage the purse. The Executive Branch has been slowly eroding
congressional power and this resolution is one way to push back. If Trump wants
money for his wall, he needs to get the votes in Congress - that is what the
All signs are pointing towards this bill being the first Trump will veto.
This is exactly the reason the President has the executive authority to impose a
national emergency...Shamefully, our Utah senators have let us down and further
exposed and weakened our national security!
Seems like they could get a lot done with $4.5 Billion.
""This is a vote for the Constitution and for the balance of powers that
is at its core. "Totally agree. We need better border
security. That is obvious. We need new immigration laws. We don't have
those today. Trump has currently authorized nearly $5 Billion dollar to start
working on the wall. He can, and should, ask for more funds in the 2020 Fiscal
budget. But claiming this is a "vote in support of Pelosi"
completely shows Trump doesn't understand the constitutional issues here.
This is more about he versus Pelosi, rather than finding a real solution.Proud both Lee and Romney are putting the country and constitution ahead
of loyalty to Trump. This has nothing to do with loyalties. Just like a
parent can reprove their child when they cross a line, and still love and be
loyal to them.
That is fine if you want to vote the Emergency Declaration down Mitt, But go to
work and rally everyone around securing our border correctly and get something
done.Be a doer Mitt.Thanks!