Must agree with Jello....the topic of this article is college-wide, not just a
BYU hoops issue.Down here in U of A town we had several
underclassmen jump ship after their frosh & soph seasons in 2017 & 2018.
Some were even 6th or 7th men. An extra season or two at Arizona would've
done them some serious good IMHO. But they took off. Some are in the D / G or
whatever it is league now. Some are out of basketball. A couple made it to the
NBA.Many young players are bolting - from schools all across the
country. Like it or not, it's the way things are now. Rarely do colleges
keep their stars thru 4 years of eligibility anymore. I try not to
grind my teeth every time I read "If Mika had stayed" or "too bad
Bryant's gone". They're gone....they're making their money -
good money - taking advantage of the chance of a lifetime. Good for them.
Childs is probably going too. Deal with it, folks.P.S. - Silly
article - ignores today's nationwide realities
Could've been a special year had they stayed? This team had plenty of
talent. They didn't mesh or have any identity all year long. No defense
ever, and inconsistency at offense. The players never looked like they meshed,
cared to be out there, or had any pride. The ONLY games I remember seeing that
are the Utah State and Utah games, which, thank heavens at least those. Mike
and Bryant could've stayed, but I don't see how you fix the culture
issue with that. Maybe, but this was a team and coaching issue.
Unlike Gonzaga, BYU does not have the luxury of a head coach that recruits
foreign athletes. Pitiful, with the international contacts BYU has from
I think Coach Cleveland's observations are shallow and misdirected. He
should have at least offered some opinion as to why he thinks these players are
leaving the team early. Seems pretty clear that he is a "company man"
and wasn't about to proffer an opinion that the decline of the program
and/or the coaching could be one of the reasons these players are departing. So
the interview offered nothing of interest only Steve Cleveland stating the
obvious. If there is to be a positive change in the BYU basketball
program, all associated with the program need to do an honest and in depth
evaluation of what is going on and come up with some recommendations for how to
stop this ship from sinking into the depths of the basketball sea.This old BYU fans thinks a large part of the problem is the current coaching
staff. They do not appear to have the keys to turning the program around. Look at the excitement and success Utah State is having with their new
young coach. It is fun to watch him coach and fun to see his players excited to
be there. Not what we are witnessing at BYU anymore!
"Not being able to score more than 19 first half points against USD is all
about coaching. This article is a great attempt to deflect blame."(sarcasm font on) Precisely ... how could Coach Rose miss all those open 3s
and layups in their last game? And heaven knows all that credit announcers give
the Coach for points off inbounds plays is grossly misdirected, as they are
really the result of players designing things on the fly!Give it a
@Utah-Hawaii Alum - CA, 00March 12, 2019 2:23 p.m.“@ Thin Blue
Line,Yes, they are "gentlemen" indeed, a rare fact in your
community.”A rare trait in ANY community. Still with the
labels and boxes....
Things are not rosy in Rose Land. If players are leaving early for
the pros -- when they only qualify for the G-League and Euro ball -- you have to
wonder if it is just an escape -- if they are so not enjoying it at BYU that
they just want to get out. You wonder if the pressure on Rose has
built up till he is not exactly seeing through rose-tinted glasses these days.
Is that translating into coaching that's grating on the players? I remember
the day we lamented the quick exits in the NCAA tournament. Then came the
steady decline while in the WCC. Now days, you have to go through Gonzaga to
even get to the NCAA. Now, it is a talented seventh seed you face, and you get
no credit for it even being a talented team that you're playing. How about
the NCAA sanctions? Wouldn't that wear on you?You look north,
and see Utah State winning, and the players being excited. If you don't
relish the coming battle, you're already defeated. If you don't enjoy
what you are doing, you won't do it well. We've seen that Coach Rose
can coach, but maybe its time for him to sit back and consider how to instill
excitement back into his players. Maybe something's been lost and needs
Aye, seeing St. Mary's knocked off Gonzaga tonight, 60-47, maybe you do
stay the course in the WCC. Lack of talent? Not sure that is BYU's
problem. You've four four-star recruits this year (Nick Emery, Yoli Childs,
Gavin Baxter and Connor Harding).
There's a visible decline in the Rose's program since joining the WCC.
Five years running before joining the WCC you make the Dance, with the last
year being your most successful there, going to the Sweet Sixteen. You make the
NCAA tournament the first year after joining the WCC, and again two years later,
then are a play-in team the following year. True, you got to the NIT semifinals
twice, but the past two years, you've exited the NIT in the first round.
The pattern is clear: You've declined steadily since joining the WCC.
Whether there are other things going on and it's a coincidence you decline
while in the WCC, who knows. Maybe you stay the course. Maybe the WCC is
developing and you should remain a part of it. Seven of the ten teams had
winning records this year. That the seventh seed pummeled you -- what does that
say? That you are bad, or that the conference is deep and good? Then
again, Gonzaga's waltzed through the league this year, its average margin
of victory being 26.3 points per game. That speaks of a a woeful conference, not
a blossoming one. Maybe it's time to call the WCC a bad experiment
-- get out before the next season rolls in, if you can.
So tired of watching BYU giards throw up bad shot after bad shot early in the
clock. Everyone wants to be the next Jimmer instead of playing team ball.
Sorry defense and fast pace hurt a slow footed BYU team that should be focused
on better shooting out of a set offense. Time for a oaching change?
Not being able to score more than 19 first half points against USD is all about
coaching. This article is a great attempt to deflect blame.
@ Herbert Gravy,You could be correct about Judkins. He certainly
knows hoops, being a keen pupil of the legendary Rick Majerus, but who knows
what he wants to do? He already has tenure at BYU and could retire yesterday. He
is a really sweet man and not confrontational. Maybe he likes coaching girls and
doesn't want the pressure?????? Heck, I don't know.....
@ Thin Blue Line,Yes, they are "gentlemen" indeed, a rare
fact in your community.
There's clearly a huge philosophical divide between those who want
what's best for the college's team (i.e. Coach Cleveland, most of the
fans) and those who want what's best for an individual athlete (the kid
himself, family, etc.) To say "We coulda been good if only those
selfish kids hadn't left early" , and to blame a lack of success on
that, seems both juvenile and counterproductive because:1) Coaches
leave for better gigs all the time, and no one really gets on them much for
that. With the risk of a Gordon Hayward (or even Zion Williamson) injury at any
moment for any player, a player should always look out for his own best
interest.2) Some colleges have better teams than BYU every year, no
matter what rules are in place.Now if you want to add a requirement,
for BYU recruits only, that they promise to stay x years on the team, no matter
what happens in their personal lives ( to "help the team"), that might
be reasonable--though I can't imagine any really good player actually
signing it, or BYU being able to enforce it if they did without looking really
bad in the public eye.
One poster here suggests that Jeff Judkins will be retiring soon.I
see him "leaving early" to coach in the NBA or in Europe.🙂
@Utah-Hawaii Alum - CA, 00March 12, 2019 1:18 p.m."@ Thin
Blue line,I hear ya man! Judkins and Whittingham are VERY moderate
LDS gentlemen......who accept and relish in all people. I see Judkins retiring
soon and KWhitt is raking-in serious coin at PAC Utah. Cheers! "May I suggest that they both are simply gentlemen....who accept and relish in
all people. Labels can be confining at times and usually don't accurately
depict the full extent of the person.
@ Thin Blue line,I hear ya man! Judkins and Whittingham are VERY
moderate LDS gentlemen......who accept and relish in all people. I see Judkins
retiring soon and KWhitt is raking-in serious coin at PAC Utah. Cheers! Goooooo Utes!
@Utah-Hawaii Alum - CA, 00March 12, 2019 12:37 p.m."As a
few Y fans have suggested......"Hire Jeff Judkins to coach men's BYU
hoops." I imagine he doesn't want that terminal problem and pressure.
He is close to retirement and loves his girls team. He is a Ute and I wish he
stayed there. He is a good person."Jeff judkins is as much a Ute
as Kyle Whitingham is a Cougar.
The NCAA is a socialist organization which thinks it controls the lives of young
men and woman who play sports. This used to be real power, when there
wasn't much competition and the NBA and NCAA controlled when players could
play professionally. Guess what? Individuals have the opportunity
to make hundreds of thousands or millions playing basketball in other
professional leagues. Capitalism at the finest. The NCAA doesn't seem to
be interested in developing players, nor sharing the wealth with the players
(who generate the wealth). If players can't survive or even make a minimum
wage, why stay?Thank goodness basketball players can actually become
part of the American Dream, and go to Europe to draw a real wage. If universities are unable to provide players with a benifit to stay.. They
As a few Y fans have suggested......"Hire Jeff Judkins to coach men's
BYU hoops." I imagine he doesn't want that terminal problem and
pressure. He is close to retirement and loves his girls team. He is a Ute and I
wish he stayed there. He is a good person.
@sunshiner - st.george, utMarch 12, 2019 11:54 a.m."Jeff
Judkins would be a great coach for the men's team, and he's already on
campus."Let's see...a 62 tear old man with no prior head
coaching experience with men's basketball? No thanks. He's doing a
great job with the women.1. Mark Pope2. Heath Shroyer3. Dave Rice...in that order
A quote from HB Arnett of Cougar Sportsline: "BYU will only be as good as
the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints pipeline provides. It hasn’t been a strong pipeline for several years now. Let me quickly
explain that there is a difference between the regular pipeline of players of
the sponsoring institution’s faith and elite players of the same faith. Church players with NBA potential don’t sign with BYU but go with
programs who while they may not be offering “Strong Backside” offers
financially, they are offering one-way tickets to the NBA. The elite
Church prospects don’t sign with BYU. Good Church products do, but they
aren’t good enough to compete with those prospects that warrant
“strong donkey” offers from elite schools." I would like
to see the NBA and other professional organizations adopt a policy of "hands
off" of college players for at least 3 years allowing personal and athletic
maturity to take place. Getting a good education seems to be a lost value in
the world of professional sports and the lure of big money.
Well....: no one from any recent BYU-P BB teams are "jumping to the
NBA." The NBA isn't even a consideration for them. These players
just want out of there.
Cleveland is right. Now, the real question is: what's the solution?
Jeff Judkins would be a great coach for the men's team, and he's
already on campus.
"I suspect that for the trustees, basketball and big money college athletics
is not a priority for them. "Very true.... Given
that the Trustees are all General Authorities whose overwhelming mission in life
is moving forward the progress of the LDS church and Gospel - college sports,
big money, the praise of the world (or at least the Sports media whom seem to
excuse away nearly all bad behavior as long as the player is highly skilled, and
often not even all that skilled ) is not much of a consideration.Avoiding more scandals of the type that occurred in the 2001-03 Gary Crowton
years IS a big consideration...Personally, I wish the Brethren would
decide/get confirmation that it's time to end the major intercollegiate
athletics programs at BYU for good... (and I'm a BYU grad/football fan).
Thank you Captain Obvious
Another thing that isn't talked about at BYU is that many students,
athletes too, who are married, some with kids, are on welfare(food stamps, WIC,
housing stipends and Medicaid). In fact, there is a bustling federal and state
welfare office on BYU's campus. Thanks to social media, the truths are
The problem is not players jumping to play pro ball...The problem is
Coach Rose does not know how to use the talents he recruits and plays favorites
with other playersThere are several top quality players who have
"Transferred" because less talented players seems to be getting the
playing time.It is time for a change at BYU basketball and let Rose
BYU fans must realize that the internet and now social media has crippled BYU
and its owners. Back in the old'n days information and truths could be
hidden or disputed. That is impossible these days. BYU cannot get the black kids
and non-LDS that are good and most necessary for the Y to be any factor in
football and basketball in the 21st century.
"stay in school, finish what you started and quit trying to grow up too
fast!"coog sports nut:Thank you, Roger Reid.Don't we WANT students to go to school to prepare for life in a
chosen field? Why do they need to stay after THEY feel they have made all the
preparations they possibly can? That's kind of the goal, isn't it? That is, unless fans don't want the coogs to be worse next year.
Then they HAVE to stay!?
It is about time that we sit down with these players and explain how much time,
effort and money we put out to recruit them and let them participate in the game
they love and at the same time receive a degree (from a school recognized as one
of best in the USA and in the world). We should expect them to honor
their word and play at BY U for 4 years or pay back the money we (BYU) have
invest in them. If they choose not to, BYU should take legal action to recover
that money and show the players what happens when you break a contract in the
real world. Make them think twice about coming to BYU and four times about
leaving BYU. Go Cougs
I have a hard time making sense of an article where a coach who has made
hundreds of thousands of dollars using student athletes talents bagging on said
student athlete, usually married, leaving a program so he himself can make
hundreds of thousands of dollars so he can support his family. That is the most
hypocritical thing that I can imagine. If the student-athlete cannot improve
his skills so he can make more money by staying then he should leave and grab
what he can get. Whether it is in Europe, China, or where ever, a kid has a
right and an obligation to make a living for his family.
This is not just a "BYU" problem, it is a college basketball problem. I
don't worry about kids that leave to play professional basketball. The
only thing they owe BYU is to play basketball for the year BYU is paying for
their education. It is a contract that is voidable by either party at any time.
I worry more about those that transfer to play for other college
teams. Part is they were not getting the playing time they thought they would
get. Part of it is that they quietly leave because the school has let them know
they would not be renewing their scholarship the next year.The one
thing it isn't is unique to BYU. That is an excuse by/for a coach who has
not adapted to the new game, the new rules, and the new culture. Time for new,
younger, hungry blood at coach. And for those that say there is nobody out
there, the last 5 BYU head coaches and their prior coaching experience:Rose - Dixie CollegeCleveland - Fresno CCReid - Snow and SUUAnderson - Utah StateArnold - Clark JCOutside of Anderson,
either Heath Shroyer or Mark Pope would have exponentially more coaching
experience than anybody BYU has hired.
@El Conquistador - American Fork, UTMarch 12, 2019 8:31 a.m."A lot of comments about the coaching . . . I understand you think a new
coach is going to help, but I'd like to see a list of qualified candidates.
Actually, I'd like to see two or three candidates—temple
recommend-holding members of the Church that have proven they can coach a D-1
basketball program. Here's a short list:"1. MARK POPE2. MARK POPE3. MARK POPEOh, by the way, did you hear me
The norm is for every good program to lose players to professional leagues. The
turnover at Duke is incredible. Can you imagine if Duke kept its stars for 4
years?! Nice of Coach Cleveland to throw a bone to Rose, but we don’t have
to buy it.
A societal issue we face is not only the money but due to college and AP
opportunities in high school we are pushing kids to try to get out of college as
quickly as possible. We see tons of early graduations from college and graduate
transfers to other institutions. When will we learn that it is the
academic journey.... and in this case the athletic journey that makes the
difference. Enjoy the journey, stay in school, finish what you started and quit
trying to grow up too fast!
Some good thoughts everyone. My wife and talked about this last night. I told
her that we can't keep players. We had some good ones come with Mika and
Bryant. We had a little core there that had potential... If they stay, and
challenge, they create a little success and it is then a bit easier to recruit.
I was super angry with Mika and Bryant. I thought they lacked commitment to a
University and a group of men who laid it out there to get them. Now you end up
filling in gaps. Program now can't compete and recruiting suffers. We go
from one of the best recruiting classes to early exits and mediocre basketball.
You saw the chemistry issues this season. You saw a coach trying to find it.
Guys who play four years with each other can compete. We are watching the
disintegration of BYU Athletics. It is not prospering at this time. The
brand is diminishing.
Time to look in the mirror folks. BYU isn't getting the talent it once
had. Everyone is looking around for excuses but there aren't any. The
skill set just isn't there.Does any one in here think Europe or
any other league is drooling to get Yoeli after his performance this year?
@at long last1 & 2, yes.3, 4, & 5, no, no, and
EMPHATICALLY no.Stop hating, bro.
Sounds like an excuse to me.
Everyone here be honest with yourself for a moment.If you were a
highly touted LDS kid coming out of high school and had offers to play for BYU,
Gonzaga, Utah, Kentucky, Duke, or Arizona, which school would you pick?My guess is that in 2019, BYU (even if you grew up as a big fan) would be at
the bottom of that list. Even if you were not considered a "one and
done" player, you would probably pick a different school than BYU.Also, be honest, if BYU had Mark Few or Coach K as our head coach, could they
have convinced Jabari Parker or Frank Jackson to play for BYU?BYU
represents a worldwide church. Are you telling me that we can't recruit
athletes from Africa, Argentina, and Australia when St Mary's can?Though the issue is with Coach Rose, I assumes it runs much deeper. I suspect
that for the trustees, basketball and big money college athletics is not a
priority for them. No sane university that wanted a successful basketball
program would have extended Rose's contract this past season.
Interesting to see the comments from concerned Ute fans stating that the
departures are symptoms of bigger issues in the BYU program -- especially
considering that Utah seems to lose half of their roster every season, resulting
in a scramble to fill spots and poor play throughout the preseason trying to
figure out who they are....
Circle the wagons and protect Rose. Let's ignore how many good players
transferred because Rose doesn't run a meritocracy.
A lot of comments about the coaching . . . I understand you think a new coach is
going to help, but I'd like to see a list of qualified candidates.
Actually, I'd like to see two or three candidates—temple
recommend-holding members of the Church that have proven they can coach a D-1
basketball program. Here's a short list:1. 2. 3. Yep, that's about it. Danny Ainge isn't going to leave Boston to
coach at BYU. The article is spot on in most cases. There are certainly
changes a coach can make. But you can't make someone go to BYU. And
honestly, if you can go to Duke or Kentucky or North Carolina, why would you go
to BYU if you want to have a basketball career.They are leaving for the
money because they can get paid while the develop in Europe. It's not that
they think they can't get better while at BYU, but BYU isn't paying
them to get better. Europe will. And if you can play in Europe for 5 to 8 years
and make a few million dollars, you can retire and be set for life if you want
Lot of good comments here except from the usual Ute haters. But they can never
be part of a cival dialog even when it comes to their own team. Probably the two
best remarks are that it's a cultural problem and I also liked the fact of
talking to former players to get their take on what's going on. I believe
that would be the best way of finding out what's going on with the program
and at least trying to figure out where you go from there.
It is very evident to anyone looking objectively at byu's men's
basketball program that there is a significant problem. Parts of the problem
are 1) coaching that fails to develop the players; 2) coaching that is perceived
to play favorites regardless of talent level; 3) Poor conference without
national publicity other than Gonzaga; 4) weak schedule without exposure to big
name programs; 5) the culture at the school, which is perceived to be hostile to
blacks.Anyone who considers these points will be able to think of
examples that justify my comments. Some of these issues are easier to resolve
than others, but all require some 'pain' and consequently aren't
likely to happen. This is especially true with Holmoe as AD.
The question to ask: Are other college teams losing players early to Europe?
Cleveland is spot on.I think that it is coaching, or lack thereof
that makes the players leave.
BYU's problem is not difficult to identify. First, marriage. A lot of BYU
athletes marry early. Marriage is expensive, especially when children come.
These players need more money than others. Second, age. Returned missionaries.
Pros don't like older players. Incentive to leave early. Don't see an
easy solution. It's cultural.
This is college ball now. This is the mentality of the youth now. It has to be
immediate. It has to be right now. This is more a byproduct of society and the
youth of today. They don’t know how to stick with things. They don’t
know how to be patient. I can only imagine when they start to have children.
It is true that too many hoops players are leaving early. Some programs can
simply reload. Duke for example. The NBA meat grinder needs more and more cannon
fodder. So you leave college after a couple of years and jump into the
professional whirlwind. Where are you in five years? Running a lawn mowing
business?MBA's and grad schools are becoming pretty standard
for a lot businesses and professions. Pro hoops provides none of that. Some guys
graduate early, so they transfer to a grad school somewhere and play another
year. How do people graduate in three years now? Sure didn't happen much in
my day, especially athletes, who often took more time to graduate, if at.
all.I don't know the answers. But as a fan, it sucks to see a
potential all-American drop out after a couple of years then wind up playing in
Europe. Not that that experience is not a good thing; I've traveled the
world in my career, but I have a Ph.D. My advice to Yoeli? Get that
degree and play another year. You're not going to make an NBA team this
Why not ask former players off the record? You're likely to find they
don't feel the extra time at BYU will develop their game.
I wonder if part of this is the BYU culture of often marrying while still a
student. It is so rare to see college athletes married at other universities but
quite common at BYU. That has to provide some urgency to make some money while
you can. The mentality has to shift a bit from enjoying the college experience
to providing for a family. In that case, how can you fault someone for making
their money while they can and not risking injury.
Congratulations to these key byu-p players for choosing the right & jumping
ship when the program needs them the most!Go Utes!
The players who left BYU would stay if they wanted to stay.The
players who left did not want to play any more at BYU.The fact that
they would be willing to play in Europe or elsewhere says alot more about the
state of the BYU Basketball program than it says about the players leaving.
I think players would stay if they felt the program was a perpetual competitive
team in the NCAA playoffs, and players like Mika, Bryant Childs And company
would have been a very competitive team and a threat to Gonzaga this year and
last.But the big glaring problem is Rose has absolutely no big time
talent following these players coming up in either under classmen or recruiting
pools. BYU used to be able to recruit talented bigmen that is no longer the
case, the days of BYU not only having better talent but also had a decisive size
advantage are gone with coach Rose, he litteraly has nothing coming up the
ranks.Rose is the problem because recruiting has gotten worse, the
football team has its own struggles not being a member of a conference, but the
basketball team does not have that excuse. It seems ever since leaving the MWC
the basketball recruiting has deteriated.I think coach rose needs to
focus on recruiting better talent, or we need a new coach.
It seemed really odd when Shawn Bradley declared for the draft while still on
his mission after only playing one year. It is also strange when players leave
early simply to go play in Europe. It seems that if Mika and Bryant had stayed
with the others, collectively they would have improved each other's
profile. I have no problem with players leaving early for riches, but these
cases are odd. I occasionally wonder if it could be due to the LDS church
sucking so much energy out of its students that they feel the need to move on.
Man, that’s some major-league whining going on. Cleveland, Harmon, etc.,
evidently believe players must be loyal to BYU-P, despite coaches that play
favorites and don’t prepare them well. Sorry, but once the
players figure that out, it’s Goodbye!
BYU not only has the problem of players leaving early, but they also have the
problem of having great recruits go on missions first. In Mika's case, he
was considered to be getting too old to be drafted into the NBA. Just look at
Mitchell with the Jazz, who was drafted at 19 (Mika was 25). Bryant didn't
leave "early". He had graduated. Yes, he had another year of
eligibility, but he did make the G-league, and even played for the Dallas
Mavericks for a time.Personally I believe that there is a problem
with some of the players. Certain players seem to think that they have the
green light to shoot, even when they aren't having a good night, while
other players clearly have talent, but don't get the screens and assists
that the glory shooters get. Is this a coaching problem? Perhaps. But it is
also a huge problem when an individual player is seeking his own glory, and not
the team's. I would love to see the BYU team focus on just
having fun and winning, and forget about the NBA for the present. So Cleveland
is right, the players should plan on staying put, then things will take care of
I'm watching St. Marys and San Diego play in a 50 to 50 game with just
under 10 minutes to go. The difference in virtually every aspect of this game is
superior to what I usually saw from byu. Do these two teams have better
athletes than byu or does it come down to coaching and player development? I say
If Yoeli Childs leaves after his Junior season, I say there is something wrong
in the basketball program.Hardnett is leaving as a graduate transfer, and
he is the best guard they have.
BYU is such a unique and special school. Players leaving early there are
disruptive and costly while there is no such effect on any other university.
And that is what makes this such a big story.
The benefits to leaving college are so great, how can colleges compete? If you
are a key player for BYU, you are not headed to the NBA; hence, the money can
start coming your way sooner by leaving for overseas. I get it. It's sad.
It's too bad for the college game, but it is better financially for the
I have to disagree with a few comments here that defend Rose. Players WOULD stay
if they felt it was best for their future. These players who are leaving...see
no value in coaching or development. They see no hope for any national spotlight
because the program is in decline. They risk injury for what? If players felt
like BYU and coach Rose offered player development and a national
spotlight...they WOULD stay. Right now...none of that is happening so you
can’t blame them for leaving.This is all about a winning program
that attracts recruits and makes players want to stay and show what they can do.
BYU has none of that now. For the program and future recruits, we need a new
coach, a new culture, and a better direction.
Agree 100% with the article. Mika and Bryant were told they wouldn’t be
drafted but left anyway . Are they being selfish? Perhaps they don’t
realize the time and cost to get the kids to commit. After all they are getting
a free education. I wonder if we have skilled enough coaches to prep the guys
for the NBA thus creating a desire to stay or even come to BYU in the first
place. Ask brother J Parker. I think the rules should change to allow players to
return to school even after signing with an agent if they don’t get
drafted. Who knows till after the draft. We want the best interest for players
then let them return or choose to go to Europe. Go Cougs!
I agree with much of what Coach Cleveland has said. I would like those who are
critical of Coach Rose and his staff to consider a few things. I am sure that no
one wants to make it to the Big Dance each year and go as deep as you can than
Coach Rose. Coaches usually want it more than the players do. That is one of the
reasons they do it.If I am not mistaken, in his 14 years as the head coach
he has had eight 25 or more win seasons, two 24 win seasons and only this year
fell below 20 wins. Eight trips to the tournament plus multiple invites to the
NIT. Coaches can't control everything their players do and the decisions
they make. Who knows how far they would have gone had they had Brandon Davies
for the entire year with Jimmer.When commentators say it is time for a
coaching change would you please list the names of possible coaches out there
who are LDS. Also, where are all those great athletes that will "fit"
the BYU brand that Coach Rose is not trying to recruit. If you are BigTime you
are probably not going to go to BYU even if you are LDS. Considering the
overall mission of BYU as an institution and the challenges of missionaries
coming and going Coach Rose has done great.
Absolutely and agree 1000%. BYU has historically thrived with veteran senior
leaders who know the way and have developed chemistry with the younger players.
This trend of "I scored 20 points a game this year so I'm jumping to
the NBA" (and landing in Europe instead) really is killing the Cougs.
They're getting beat by teams with senior leaders who have a system in
place and chemistry. This is no knock on Yoeli--he's got the right to make
his own decisions--but the trend overall really is disturbing and damaging.
Seeing Hardnett go is also disconcerting. Dave Rose is a good coach, but
he'd do even better if he can talk his guys into sticking around.
I can't disagree with the overall premise of the article. It did come off
as a preventative plea to talk Childs into staying. I would suggest someone on
the BYU coaching staff find out why they are leaving.
Coaches leaving to chase bigger contracts is what usually hurts the program.The NCAA has gotten better but it still regulates the athletes to death
and let's the coaches do whatever they want.Your body only has
so much it can give and to play for "free" isn't going to pay the