Morning links: Brett McMurphy predicts Utah will go to the Rose Bowl

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  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    March 18, 2019 1:32 p.m.

    @Rusty Filter - ,

    1st. The vast majority of Utah fans also think vandalizing the Cougar was not classy. We are sorry it happened, even though they were kids. Every fan base, including yours, has that certain subset of fans.

    Like a BYU fan jumping out of the stands to attack a Utah cheerleader as just one, of many, examples over the yrs.

    Let's not paint either fan base with that broad brush. Rivalries tend to bring out the worst in a subset of fans of every team.

    Utah doesn't have the same history, with PAC 12 conference mates.

    There seems to be a nice mutual respect actually.

    I have attended many games at P12 venues as a Utah fan, and been treated very well. They've been engaging, while displaying grace and respect. They also seem to know a LOT about Utah football, from the many and varied fans of other P12 teams I have spoken with. But this is anecdotal as well.

    I'd love some metrics supporting your claim of :

    "No fan base in the pac 12 wants anything to do with the utes because of the disrespect the fans Bring".

    Both Utah and BYU fans could do a better job of showing respect to each other. It's not a P12 issue at all.

  • My Rash is Red ,
    March 15, 2019 11:38 a.m.

    @Arizona Ute

    Isn't that sweet. You still care.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    March 15, 2019 8:28 a.m.

    @MRM - Layton, UT

    This is an article reporting that a national pundit is predicting Utah to the Rose Bowl. And there have been recent articles about being ranked in every preseason poll, as high as #10 and low as #18.

    Utah has been on list of teams that could make the CFP for the 1st time and articles as to what they need to do to make the CFP, etc. All national writers.

    Preseason polls, SOS and predictions are really generally worthless other than being fun, if it's about your team. Who knows what will really happen.

    Here is what we do know:

    As an independent, BYU has no access to the Rose Bowl and they are certainly not predicted by any national pundit/writer to even have the sort of season that could get them there.

    BYU isn't being talked about at all, nationally speaking. There is plenty of local coverage for some reason.

    Independence has been a disaster if you really look at it. And the extra $$ isn't worth it. Nor has the "exposure" been.

    The extra $$ isn't really that much either. And the utter lack of access to any meaningful post season has got to be irritating.

    Every accomplishment BYU has was when they were in the WAC.

  • MRM Layton, UT
    March 14, 2019 10:22 p.m.

    Utemythology

    “Utah: 19 CFP rankings, 3 top 25 teams, and
    Beat #3, #10, #10, #11, #19, #21, #23”

    Yet, Utah has never been a legitimate CFP contender and Utah’s only somewhat decent accomplishment since joining the PAC 12 is backing into a pathetically weak PAC South title after losing to the only division opponent that finished with a winning record.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 14, 2019 8:12 p.m.

    Aunty Mythology - Monrovia, CA
    March 14, 2019 9:08 a.m.
    Utemythology

    “Utah is irrelevant yet it's BYU fans who keep celebrating a 7-point margin defeat from a bowl that Utah didn't even want to play in.”

    The fact that you couldn’t even dispute that beating “irrelevant BYU” is Utah’s biggest bowl win as a P5 is proof enough of your own irrelevance.

    -----

    Utah: 19 CFP rankings, 3 top 25 teams, and
    Beat #3, #10, #10, #11, #19, #21, #23

    vs.

    BYU: 7 point margin of defeat in Vegas

    Stay in your lane.

  • JustGordon Salt Lake City, UT
    March 14, 2019 12:54 p.m.

    One can only smile when the fans of the third, or is it the fourth best football program in Utah talk trash about the best program.

    When evaluated upon achievement, "independence" by any yardstick has been a disaster of monumental proportions for our little brothers. Yes, the money may be better, but being "exposed" as a program that is no longer relevant is not what was planned.

    Thus, we have another example of getting what you wished for when the unintended consequences are catastrophic.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    March 14, 2019 12:52 p.m.

    @deductive reasoning - Arlington, VA

    Relevance is quite possibly defined differently by different people. But most would agree that relevance has a short time frame. Like recent past, something current or close future.

    BYU won the NC in 1984. Great accomplishment but not relevant today. BYU hasn't finished a season ranked in the AP for a decade and has never, even for 1 week, been ranked in the now 5 yrs old, CFP poll.

    Here's what's current for Utah:

    Last yr. Utah won a P5 division and played for a CC. One of 10 teams in the nation to do so. Were ranked in every poll for much of the season and in the last CFP poll finished #17.

    Utah is currently preseason ranked in every poll, predicted to make the Rose Bowl, picked as the defacto P12 so. champ and predicted to make the Rose Bowl.

    There are between 8-10 teams, who many pundits feel could make the CFP for the 1st time, depending on the pundit. Utah is on those lists.

    Utah has finished 3 of the last 5 yrs ranked in every poll.

    If we were allowed to paste links here, I would.

    These are national writers/polls. Not Ute fans or local media.

    That seems relevant. If it were BYU you'd feel the same way.

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    March 14, 2019 9:08 a.m.

    Utemythology

    “Utah is irrelevant yet it's BYU fans who keep celebrating a 7-point margin defeat from a bowl that Utah didn't even want to play in.”

    The fact that you couldn’t even dispute that beating “irrelevant BYU” is Utah’s biggest bowl win as a P5 is proof enough of your own irrelevance.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 13, 2019 11:27 p.m.

    deductive reasoning - Arlington, VA
    March 13, 2019 7:02 p.m.
    ArizonaUte - SLC, UT
    March 13, 2019 10:27 a.m.
    @Road Runner - Cedar City, UT

    “Just for clarification, the Ute fans aren't the ones desperately searching for relevance.”

    What exactly have the Utes door ne so nce leaving the MWC that’s relevant.

    Utah’s best bowl win, by far, since 2011, is vs BYU in the Las Vegas Bowl.l, and U barely managed to hang on to a 7-point win after BYU spotted U 35 points in the 1st Q.

    -----

    Utah is irrelevant yet it's BYU fans who keep celebrating a 7-point margin defeat from a bowl that Utah didn't even want to play in.

    SAD!

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    March 13, 2019 7:02 p.m.

    ArizonaUte - SLC, UT
    March 13, 2019 10:27 a.m.
    @Road Runner - Cedar City, UT

    “Just for clarification, the Ute fans aren't the ones desperately searching for relevance.”

    What exactly have the Utes door ne so nce leaving the MWC that’s relevant.

    Utah’s best bowl win, by far, since 2011, is vs BYU in the Las Vegas Bowl.l, and U barely managed to hang on to a 7-point win after BYU spotted U 35 points in the 1st Q.

  • Rusty Filter ,
    March 13, 2019 2:31 p.m.

    AZUTE1 - Mesa, AZ
    March 10, 2019 8:07 p.m.
    Down 44 pts to USD is well....Delicious!

    Go Utes!

    Was this comment ment to tear down, mock, belittle, Mack fun of?
    I’ll wait.
    I’m not saying that BYU fans don’t make comments but to say that Cougars do it more then the u is delusional.

  • Rusty Filter ,
    March 13, 2019 2:14 p.m.

    Haha see ute fans can tear down and make fun of but when they get called out , they suddenly become the victim. nobody liked that kid at school. Just except the fact that ute fans are instigators and they love it.

    Last time the hill traveled to Provo the Cougar was vandalized. Why is that? Real respectful.
    Cheers pal.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    March 13, 2019 1:40 p.m.

    @Rusty Filter

    Your quote: (and thank you for proving my point so quickly)

    "No fan base in the pac 12 wants anything to do with the Utes because of the disrespect the fans Bring."

    Classic. But I am sure you didn't mean to disrespect Utah and their fans, right?

    Your un-provable comment wasn't driven by the need to 'belittle, tear down, mock, make fun of, and minimize anything about Utah'?

    Other PAC12 fan bases? Nice BYU fan narrative.

    Articles from PAC 12 schools and their fans/columnists that support your comment?

    Why is Utah one of the most traveled to by fans of other PAC12 schools? Because they want to get disrespected by our fans?

    Utah is a state school in a low population state, we don't claim a national following and we are ok with that. Our stadium isn't huge, but it's nice. We are ok with that. Utah isn't flashy, and doesn't seek the lime light. We are ok with that. Utah is a good football program on the rise. And we are ok with that too.

    We are happy with who we are, where we are at and where we could go.

    We respect our conf. mates and treat them accordingly.

  • Rusty Filter ,
    March 13, 2019 11:37 a.m.

    Are the ute fans now claim that BYU is the one that belittles and tears down? You have got to be kidding me. The U is the king of tearing down to make them selves feel better. No fan base in the pac 12 wants anything to do with the utes because of the disrespect the fans Bring.
    Just read the posts from the ute faithfuls (AZUte,NN,real ute,) that’s just a few.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    March 13, 2019 10:27 a.m.

    @Road Runner - Cedar City, UT

    Just for clarification, the Ute fans aren't the ones desperately searching for relevance. Just say'n.

    But what's funny is the need, BYU fans seem to feel, to belittle, tear down, mock, make fun of, and minimize anything, from anyone, about Utah.

    Preseason predictions, SOS, rankings, etc. are all pretty worthless. We all know that.

    But the fact that Utah is being talked about, outside of our local media, if fun. Just like it would be fun for BYU fans if they were being talked about.

    When it's Utah, it certainly seems to get under some peoples skin.

    There are likely many differing opinions as to what "relevant" means. But being talked about, written about, predicted about and ranked by national media pundits and polls, seems like it fits most descriptions.

    History has very little to do with relevance. Colorado won an NC and Heisman, Cal has 5 NCs, Minnesota has 5, Pitt has 9. Are any of these teams relevant today?

    I'll let you answer that. Your definition of relevance may differ from mine.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    March 13, 2019 9:55 a.m.

    "Utah has two starters? No, Utah has 2 potential 1st round NFL prospects."

    Utah's quarterbacks are both 1st round draft picks? Wow - that's beyond hype - that's delusion. Those guys are good but c'mon - get a grip.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    March 13, 2019 9:52 a.m.

    ArizonaUte:
    "But I'd rather be talked about, right or wrong in the preseason, than not. Even though I'll take it with a grain of salt."

    I agree with everything in your post including the above statement. The off-season is slow and sometimes boring (unless you follow recruiting as closely as I do lol), so it's nice to have the occasional prediction article and some of the hype surrounding it. Like you said, it's sometimes deserved, and sometimes not...usually time will always tell.

    Good dialogue, brother. Cheers!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    March 13, 2019 9:45 a.m.

    Uteology:
    "Did 2009 BYU crash and burn after being ranked #7? That was your best team since 2006."

    Yes, they did. And my best team since 2006 was UGA 2012 or 2017 lol.

    Point is, it happens to everyone...not just the SEC and ACC. Also I was making a jab about the possibility of U crashing and burning on the hype this year. What, I'm not allowed to make predictions and buy or not buy into hype like everyone else? This is an article about a prediction, remember? I actually think Utah will do fine this year, which is why it was more ribbing U fans than what I actually think.

    Now can we drop this finally?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 13, 2019 8:32 a.m.

    Road Runner - Cedar City, UT
    March 13, 2019 12:53 a.m.
    Brett McMurphy predicts Utah will go to the Rose Bowl

    yawn

    Brett Mc Murphy ranked USC (5-7) preseason #13 in 2018.

    Bottom line

    Preseason predictions are meaningless, unless you’re a Ute desperately searching for relevance.

    ------

    Relevance according to...

    College Football Committee Rankings:
    Utah 19 (like Oregon)
    Utah State 1 (like Fresno State)
    BYU 0 (like New Mexico)

    Preseason rankings are meaningless, which is why BYU fans celebrated at Provo Airport a win over #6 Wisconsin.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    March 13, 2019 7:54 a.m.

    @MRM - Layton, UT

    Let's be clear on one thing. Utah doesn't claim to be QB-U. BYU does.

    What's ironic is that Utah is the only team in the State of Utah to ever have a #1 overall draft pick in the NFL. And it just happened to be a QB. Who, BTW, is still in the NFL although injured currently. Who is BYU's QB in the NFL currently?

    Steve Young left BYU 36 yrs. ago. He is the last BYU QB to have any significant playing time in the NFL. He's been retired 20+ yrs.

    Utah has had more NFL draftees than BYU in history and every yr, that gap widens.

    Zach Wilson is going to turn out to be a good QB. But he would have been a walk-on at Utah. And no, he wouldn't be starting at Utah. They didn't even offer him a scholarship. And if Jack Tuttle hadn't been committed, Utah would have offered Cam Cooper. And it Cooper didn't commit, TT wanted a kid in No. Cal that he really liked.

    Wilson has found a good situation for himself at BYU. And I hope he makes the most of it.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    March 13, 2019 7:39 a.m.

    @Cougsndawgs - West Point , UT

    Really good points about the SEC and college football hype in general.

    I agree with you. And the SEC is the ONE conference that is clearly very strong. And as such they get a LOT of hype. A lot of it is deserved but I get it.

    Yeah, I'll let you and JackRyan work the argument out.

    I was just stating that Utah fans aren't the ones hyping the Utes. The national pundits, right or wrong, seem to universally see something in this Utah team for 2019.

    It's fun to see but I also agree that it means nothing. Preseason rankings, hype, SOS etc. are all pure speculation. And very often wrong.

    I think the 'crashing and burning' aspect really only applies if the team and fan base are providing the hype.

    But I'd rather be talked about, right or wrong in the preseason, than not. Even though I'll take it with a grain of salt.

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    March 13, 2019 12:53 a.m.

    Brett McMurphy predicts Utah will go to the Rose Bowl

    yawn

    Brett Mc Murphy ranked USC (5-7) preseason #13 in 2018.

    Bottom line

    Preseason predictions are meaningless, unless you’re a Ute desperately searching for relevance.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 12, 2019 11:04 p.m.

    @MRM - Layton,

    If Alex was really as good as U claim, why has he never won a single major award in college or in the NFL?

    btw, Zach would be starting over Huntley and Shelley if Whit hadn’t dropped the ball in recruiting him.

    ------

    Alex was good enough to earn a $94M contract.

    Zach couldn't beat out Mangum for 8 weeks but he would be starting over Huntley?

    SMH

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 12, 2019 10:56 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs - West Point , UT
    March 12, 2019 5:33 p.m.
    Uteology:
    "Utah has never been ranked off hype in the preseason top 10 and then crash and burned."

    I'm making a jab about this year...and the fact U have been ranked in the top 10 recently, and crashed and burned (though I agree not preseason top 10...but that is hype U have to earn). U were obviously over-ranked last year before crashing and burning.

    -------

    Did you get in your hot tub time machine and see the future?

    If not then how can you be talking about Utah crashing and burning this year?

    Utah was not ranked in the top 10 because of hype, we were ranked because we beat #11 Michigan and manhandled #19 Oregon on the road.

    Overrated, sure, crash and burn?

    Nope, not a AP #17, 2nd in P12, and tied 1st P12 South.

    Did 2009 BYU crash and burn after being ranked #7? That was your best team since 2006.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    March 12, 2019 7:25 p.m.

    ArizonaUte:
    Again, the national pundits are the ones that hype any school. My retort was directed at JackRyan for suggesting that being overrated and crashing and burning was an SEC/ACC thing. My point (mostly in defense of the SEC) is that no conference is immune from hype, being overrated and crashing and burning. It's not a conference thing, it's a CFB thing.

    My post was also to correct him that teams in the SEC aren't just living off Bama's hype. Georgia, Florida, Auburn, Texas A&M, and LSU have earned their hype with elite recruiting and recent conference and national hardware.

    The last line was to suggest that if he feels the SEC doesn't deserve its hype after all the hardware they've won, what in the world makes him think Utah deserves their hype this preseason after winning the division for the first time in 8 tries?

  • MRM Layton, UT
    March 12, 2019 6:03 p.m.

    ArizonaUte

    Strange how when Utah fans make a claim like; “Utah has 2 potential 1st round NFL prospects. Our 2nd string would start at BYU.”

    What would Utah fans know about NFL caliber QBs?

    U have only had a couple in your entire history and neither acheived any major accomplishments in college or in the NFL.

    Don’t even bother with your “#1 draft pick” boast.

    If Alex was really as good as U claim, why has he never won a single major award in college or in the NFL?

    btw, Zach would be starting over Huntley and Shelley if Whit hadn’t dropped the ball in recruiting him.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    March 12, 2019 5:33 p.m.

    Uteology:
    "Utah has never been ranked off hype in the preseason top 10 and then crash and burned."

    I'm making a jab about this year...and the fact U have been ranked in the top 10 recently, and crashed and burned (though I agree not preseason top 10...but that is hype U have to earn). U were obviously over-ranked last year before crashing and burning.

    And the major point of my post was that happens to all programs, not just ACC or SEC like Jack insinuated. Washington was overrated last year (not SEC/ACC), USC is overrated every year (not SEC/ACC). Being ranked off hype and crashing and burning is not an ACC/SEC thing, it's a CFB thing (and as I said, U have to earn preseason hype with past accomplishments). That was the primary point.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    March 12, 2019 5:19 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs - West Point , UT

    Who knows what will actually happen this season. But Utah fans aren't the ones "hyping" Utah. Nor is the local media.

    These are national pundits. And while it's fun to be relevant, and in these discussions, if Utah doesn't make the Rose Bowl, it doesn't mean they crashed and burned. It means Brett McMurphy was wrong. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.

    I'd rather read about Utah than not, as a Utah fan. But it's ok if there isn't anything to read in the off season.

    Being relevant is more fun than not.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 12, 2019 4:56 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs - West Point , UT
    March 12, 2019 3:29 p.m.
    JackRyanSLC:
    "...just ask the SEC that always gets half of their schools ranked off of hype before they crash and burn. They live off of Alabama just like the ACC lives off of Clemson."

    It's nice that U thank the national writers for their respect, and at the same time question their expertise with other conferences/teams.

    So tell me, who was the 2013-14 national champion...it was an ACC team not named Clemson. And I know it's hard because a Pac12 team hasn't won it in nearly 15 years, but how many SEC teams have won the national championship BESIDES Bama in that time? That would be 3 (LSU, Auburn, and UF).

    Sounds like the only school being "ranked off of hype before they crash and burn" is U.

    -------

    Actually, no it does not.

    Utah has never been ranked off hype in the preseason top 10 and then crash and burned.

    Teams like Florida State, Auburn, and LSU have. So has USC.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    March 12, 2019 3:29 p.m.

    JackRyanSLC:
    "...just ask the SEC that always gets half of their schools ranked off of hype before they crash and burn. They live off of Alabama just like the ACC lives off of Clemson."

    It's nice that U thank the national writers for their respect, and at the same time question their expertise with other conferences/teams.

    So tell me, who was the 2013-14 national champion...it was an ACC team not named Clemson. And I know it's hard because a Pac12 team hasn't won it in nearly 15 years, but how many SEC teams have won the national championship BESIDES Bama in that time? That would be 3 (LSU, Auburn, and UF).

    Sounds like the only school being "ranked off of hype before they crash and burn" is U.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 12, 2019 3:02 p.m.

    What's not to like about Utah's Rose Bowl chances in 2019?

    In 2018, Utah returns talent that was 8 points away from a Rose Bowl berth without Huntley/Moss.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 12, 2019 2:49 p.m.

    Rockwell - Baltimore, MD
    March 12, 2019 6:41 a.m.
    utemythology

    “Utah has 2 potential 1st round NFL prospects. Our 2nd string would start at BYU.”

    LOL!

    Utah has never had a QB who won a Heisman Trophy, or finished in the Heisman Top 3, or won a Davey O’Brien, or Sammy Baugh, or was inducted into the national college football HOF, or won an NFL or Super Bowl MVP.

    In fact, your Sugar Bowl MVP wasn’t even good enough to make an NFL practice squad.

    -------------

    What?

    I was referring Johnson and Moss, not Huntley.

    Utah is loaded with talent, I was referring to our ENTIRE 2nd string backups, like Francis Bernard, who would start at BYU.

    It's hillirous how you immediately jumped in your hot tub time machine to pull out Chow QBs to make an irrelevant comparison.

    Wilson has yet to beat a top 100 ranked team, he would be 4th string at Utah.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    March 12, 2019 1:23 p.m.

    @Rockwell - Baltimore, MD

    Strange how when Utah fans make a claim like; “Utah has 2 potential 1st round NFL prospects. Our 2nd string would start at BYU.”

    Ute fans are talking about NOW! Today's team.

    The BYU fan "go-to" position? Recite accomplishments from 30-40 yrs. ago.

    There is a huge disconnect....seemingly always.

    Nobody cares about that history except BYU fans. Honestly. Pitt has 9 NC's. Cal has 5, Minnesota has 5, Colorado has an NC and Heisman more recently than BYU.

    Those fan bases don't dwell on the past like BYU fans. Ya'll have a special skill that way.

    BYU had a 17 yr "blip" in history. They did nothing before and not much since the "blip".

    BYU isn't "getting back to the glory that is rightfully theirs". They are reverting back to the mean. Today's BYU is normal for your overall history. The 17 yr. "blip" was the anomaly, statistically speaking.

    EVERY accomplishment that BYU fans love to recite, was in the window of the "blip". And BYU was in the WAC.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    March 12, 2019 12:25 p.m.

    @ Arizona Ute,

    You're always "spot-on" sir! Almost all true Utes feel fortunate to be in the PAC and sweat/enjoy every league game in all sports. We win and lose, okay by me indeed. It is exciting and worthwhile!!!!! After all, sports is entertainment. How would you, or any other human being, like to watch a cold November home game on a Thursday at 11pm vs New Mexico State, or the likes, at LES like Y fans, some that show up that is, always do?

    My hope is that BYU's owners disband BYU sports. I don't care to compete against them ever again, like most Utes.

  • Lester L. Wester Salt Lake City, UT
    March 12, 2019 12:05 p.m.

    Bluto: "Every Ute fan was wondering how he (Zach) got away from Einstein Whittingham ??"

    You just made that up. Another (among the many) made-up statements you like to post. It's been a while since you've listed the 40 year old BYU-P accomplishments, let's have another go at it.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    March 12, 2019 11:49 a.m.

    @Bluto - Sandy, UT

    Why is it that BYU fans always seem to put words in Utah fan's mouths? When have you EVER heard a Utah fan predict Utah going to the Rose Bowl?

    I mean, we'd love to go. We hope to go. But predicting it? Even with Brett McMurphy predicting it, our fans base doesn't. We aren't saying it's impossible, and we are cautiously optimistic, but a lot has to happen for that to come to fruition. Health being one of many items needed.

    Here is an honest question:

    Do you ever get tired of reciting what BYU accomplished 30-40 yrs ago? They were good accomplishments I agree. But dang.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    March 12, 2019 11:43 a.m.

    65TossPowerTrap - Salmon, ID

    "This sounds like hype but there isn't a team in the Pac-12 that can touch the Utes. ASU maybe - but nobody else. The Utes should waltz to the Rose Bowl with no problem."

    While I like your optimism.........

    We Utah fans wish it were that easy. It never is. The PAC 12 has a lot of parity and any teams can literally beat any other team on a given day.

    Cautious optimism is our stance. Hype? Not so much.

    Nice to get some love from the national guys. But Utah will just prepare like always. For the 1 game in front of them. Then on the the next.

    Let's hope for kids staying healthy and they have a shot at the Rose Bowl this yr.

    If they go, I go. Would be really fun.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    March 12, 2019 10:00 a.m.

    Based on the comments posted by Y fans on this thread, it is safe to say that they're envious, have been for an awful long time in fact, that nobody talks about BYU any longer. Army won three NCs and three Heisman trophies.......and nobody is talking about them either. Although, Army is a far better football team than BYU is as of this very day!

    9 in-a-row is imminent in August Y fans.......deal with that painful realty.

    Goooooo Utes!

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    March 12, 2019 6:43 a.m.

    Came to the comments section to find out more about the guy who stole home....

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    March 12, 2019 6:43 a.m.

    utemythology

    “Utah has 2 potential 1st round NFL prospects. Our 2nd string would start at BYU.”

    LOL!

    Utah has never had a QB who won a Heisman Trophy, or finished in the Heisman Top 3, or won a Davey O’Brien, or Sammy Baugh, or was inducted into the national college football HOF, or won an NFL or Super Bowl MVP.

    In fact, your Sugar Bowl MVP wasn’t even good enough to make an NFL practice squad.

    You keep drifting; stay in your lane, bro!

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    March 12, 2019 6:41 a.m.

    utemythology

    “Utah has 2 potential 1st round NFL prospects. Our 2nd string would start at BYU.”

    LOL!

    Utah has never had a QB who won a Heisman Trophy, or finished in the Heisman Top 3, or won a Davey O’Brien, or Sammy Baugh, or was inducted into the national college football HOF, or won an NFL or Super Bowl MVP.

    In fact, your Sugar Bowl MVP wasn’t even good enough to make an NFL practice squad.

    You keep drifting; stay in your lane, bro!

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    March 12, 2019 6:05 a.m.

    utemythology

    Hype since 2010 with nothing but a Holiday Bowl beatdown to show for it.

  • CG Provo, UT
    March 12, 2019 4:42 a.m.

    More desperate grabbing at straws by the crimson lovers.

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    March 12, 2019 3:07 a.m.

    red.diehard - Central, UT
    March 11, 2019 2:58 p.m.
    “National media makes a comment about Utah going to the Rose Bowl and...”

    the kids on the hill take the bait hook, line and sinker.

    The Utes are pathetic front runners.

    Utah’s only real success has come when they were able to sneak up on teams that overlooked them.

  • SportsFan Provo, UT
    March 12, 2019 3:00 a.m.

    Utemythology

    “Utah has 2 potential 1st round NFL prospects.”

    LOL!

    Neither will even make an NFL practice squad.

  • CG Provo, UT
    March 12, 2019 2:50 a.m.

    Typical delusional wishful thinking on the hill.

    Utah lost most of their big play makers on defense and on special teams and with the rest of the division being much improved the Utes will be fortunate to finish higher than 3rd in their division.

    Sorry, but that’s reality.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 12, 2019 1:15 a.m.

    @Bluto - Sandy, UT

    Every Ute fan was wondering how he (Zach) got away from Einstein Whittingham ??

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    Nope, I have been saying he would be 4th string at Utah, 3rd after Tuttle bailed, and now 4th again behind Bad Moon Rising.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 11, 2019 9:27 p.m.

    65TossPowerTrap - Salmon, ID
    March 11, 2019 5:01 p.m.
    Oregon is always the favorite? Why? Because they have cool gear? What do Oregon, USC and Stanford have in common? All three were beaten by Utah in 2018. C'mon, USC? They are an absolute train wreck. Washington will be good, but they will be breaking in a new qb. Utah has two experienced guys that can start - what's not to like?

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    Oregon is #12, Washington is #14, Utah #16, and #24 Washington State.

    No, the trian wreck is the cupcake down south at #53 and 3rd in State.

    Utah has two starters? No, Utah has 2 potential 1st round NFL prospects. Our 2nd string would start at BYU.

    You keep drifting, stay in your lane!

  • CO Ute , 00
    March 11, 2019 8:06 p.m.

    Multiple Y fans posting here about the annual hype surrounding Utah. In reality all of that is made up. Rare to see a real U fan predict a Rose Bowl and the “hype” is from national media. I suspect Utah be the PAC 12 media favorite in the South and have a fair number of votes to win the conference.
    In reality there are a few close games that along with injuries determine the success of the season. Utes have as good of a chance as any team in the conference to go to the Rose Bowl. But as Naval correctly pointed out again, several frantic and emotional Y fans can’t handle the Utes getting attention.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    March 11, 2019 6:27 p.m.

    Great receiving respect from a national expert, NOT from w/in, but I’m looking forward to seeing us perform up to our potential this year & hope we have better luck on the injury-front!

    Go Utes!

  • Aunty Mythology Monrovia, CA
    March 11, 2019 5:49 p.m.

    Utah has won more CFP and Rose Bowl berths in August and September than any other team...

    unfortunately, then comes October...

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    March 11, 2019 5:01 p.m.

    Oregon is always the favorite? Why? Because they have cool gear? What do Oregon, USC and Stanford have in common? All three were beaten by Utah in 2018. C'mon, USC? They are an absolute train wreck. Washington will be good, but they will be breaking in a new qb. Utah has two experienced guys that can start - what's not to like?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 11, 2019 4:48 p.m.

    65TossPowerTrap - Salmon, ID
    March 11, 2019 11:00 a.m.
    This sounds like hype but there isn't a team in the Pac-12 that can touch the Utes. ASU maybe - but nobody else. The Utes should waltz to the Rose Bowl with no problem.

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    Are you kidding? Oregon is the favorite in most polls. USC, Stanford, and Washington all have as good or better talent. USC is a Urban Meyer hire away from being a national title contender.

    The only cakewalk will be BYU and Idaho State, in that order.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 11, 2019 4:41 p.m.

    @Utah-Hawaii Alum - CA, 00

    What would Y fans be prognosticating if they were hypothetically favored to play in the Rose Bowl in 2019?

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    According to historical evidence, they would have already printed 50,000 Rose Bowl tshirts like they did in 2008 when they were hyped to be the next BCS buster.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    March 11, 2019 4:35 p.m.

    A another top 10 prediction, this team loaded with talent and has the potential to have a great season.

    @toosmartforyou - "And thus the hype begins...."

    Hype t-shirts:
    BYU 50,0000
    Utah 0

    Airport Celebrations:
    BYU 2
    Utah 0

    Stay in your lane!

  • Not-in-Utah-anymore , CA
    March 11, 2019 4:16 p.m.

    Yah!!! Finally we're gonna get the respect we deserve!

    We're gonna go undefeated and roll over every team by at least 50 points! Maybe 60!! We're gonna rock the other teams so hard it'll cause tall buildings to crumble and fall on the helpless inhabitants below! We're gonna set all kinds of world records! We're gonna run faster, jump higher, and smell better than anyone else! Heck, everyone's gonna know where Utah is on the map after this, boy!! RESPECT! That's what we want!

    (sarcasm: off)
    Honestly, I'd love to go see the Utes in the Rose Bowl, but some of their fans make me embarrassed to be a U grad.

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    March 11, 2019 3:42 p.m.

    Well, anything could happen. Heck, they COULD even win a real NC. This is America, anything is possible!

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    March 11, 2019 3:35 p.m.

    Which of the following teams will be better than Utah:
    ASU - maybe, but N'Keal Harry is gone and now everybody has a years worth of film,
    UA - fantastic running qb who refuses to run,
    USC - tire fire that will continue to burn for the next three years,
    Oregon - not on schedule so who cares,
    Stanford - not on schedule so who cares,
    WSU - breaking in new qb,
    UW - breaking in new qb, key defensive losses,
    Cal - good defense - no offense,
    OSU - get serious,
    UCLA - I'm beginning to think that Oregon was an outlier for Chip Kelly,
    Colorado - new coach.
    It's Utah and everybody else in the Pac-12. Utah will beat UW in the championship game, so book your flights and hotel rooms now.

  • Justmythoughts Provo, UT
    March 11, 2019 3:32 p.m.

    Oh goody, the annual Utah going to the Rose Bowl prediction. Must be Spring.

  • Johnny Triumph Salt Lake City, UT
    March 11, 2019 3:31 p.m.

    @jack - we're only getting slightly more respect. The PAC as a whole is down, especially in the south division. If the south were strong I'd be overjoyed, but I'm less so with this news. I'd love to be proven wrong, and I hope media attention means things are better and stronger than I think they are.

    Go Utes!

  • red.diehard Central, UT
    March 11, 2019 2:58 p.m.

    National media makes a comment about Utah going to the Rose Bowl and the local bluesers have whinefest...

    What a wonderful thing it is the the team 'that has been to the mountain top' is still coming down and down and down.

    Bring on the Buckeyes!!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    March 11, 2019 2:44 p.m.

    65TossPowerTrap - Salmon, ID
    March 11, 2019 12:19 p.m.

    Who is Washington's quarterback? Sonny Sixkiller? Nobody knows. You're not the top dog if your own genius coach doesn't know who his quarterback is. Utah has two experienced quarterbacks that can start. Who else in the Pac-12 can say that?
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    Who ever it is; they will probably be a good one:
    Jacob Eason (Georgia xfer), JR, #13 over all in recruiting class
    Jacob Sirmon, RSFR, #27 over all
    Colson Yaknoff, RSFR, #68 over all

  • JackRyanSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    March 11, 2019 1:37 p.m.

    As a long time Ute booster and fan...it is great to see Utah getting more and more respect nationally each year. Chart the progress of the program since joining the PAC12 and you will see enormous progress. We have not arrived yet, but the trajectory is headed in the right direction. It is always nice to see some of the national guys recognize us.

    And most importantly, don't kid yourself about the importance of pre-season rankings...just ask the SEC that always gets half of their schools ranked off of hype before they crash and burn. They live off of Alabama just like the ACC lives off of Clemson. With USC and Oregon down a bit, it is a huge to have us so highly ranked in the offseason. Now we just need to stay healthy and perform.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    March 11, 2019 1:37 p.m.

    Rose Bowl predictions for the Utes coming from ESPN reporters are all well and good, but the truth is, their only real value is in 2 things:

    1. It reflects the respect the Utes have garnered from the rest of the nation.
    2. It's bound to rile up our indy-WACey little brothers.

    Bluto:

    "And rest assured, Naval, that the lifetime Ute fan, 6'2" Zach Wilson (hardly a little man, your insults aside) will be just fine."

    What are you talking about little bro? I never insulted Wilson. You just made that up. In fact, I hadn't commented on anything yet up until just now. Straw man much? How frantic and emotional of you.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    March 11, 2019 12:59 p.m.

    @bluto

    "Ute fans have been predicting a Rose Bowl for 9 years now."

    I haven't heard a single Utah fan predict a Rose Bowl during any of the last 9 seasons. And I don't see a single Utah fan predicting one on this thread (ironically, the only Utah Rose Bowl prediction here is coming from BYU-P fan 65 Venus fly trap).

    But whatever... don't let any of that get in the way of your unsupported beliefs.

  • pacmidmajor Springville, UT
    March 11, 2019 12:45 p.m.

    No way this ute team only goes to the rose bowl this year ....this joker does not know what he is talking about..you see in my not too early predictions ,i have the utes playing in the national championship game this year ! this team is loaded with 4 and 5 star players from top to bottom .....

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    March 11, 2019 12:19 p.m.

    Who is Washington's quarterback? Sonny Sixkiller? Nobody knows. You're not the top dog if your own genius coach doesn't know who his quarterback is. Utah has two experienced quarterbacks that can start. Who else in the Pac-12 can say that?

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    March 11, 2019 12:19 p.m.

    You wrote:

    "What would Y fans be prognosticating if they were hypothetically favored to play in the Rose Bowl in 2019?..........the insanity would be off any possible chart at least! They, most all, actually think that lil' Zachary Wilson will lead them to "glory" vs Utah in August? Oh my? BWAHAHA!

    Ute fans have been predicting a Rose Bowl for 9 years now.

    And rest assured, Naval, that the lifetime Ute fan, 6'2" Zach Wilson (hardly a little man, your insults aside) will be just fine.

    Every Ute fan was wondering how he (Zach) got away from Einstein Whittingham ??

    BYU has already been to the Mountain Top, Unanimous National Championship, Heisman Memorial Trophy, Outlands, College Hall of Famers...You know the drill....

    Rose Parade, Rose Bowl, let us know when it actually happens for U.

    Until then....

    Blue Blood Teams of the South are on the rise, and Utah will never surpass them.

  • Tomahawk Red Miami Beach, FL
    March 11, 2019 12:04 p.m.

    Which means he's also predicting the Pac 12 will again miss the playoff.

    I hope he's wrong on that point. The league can't continue its downward slide much longer.

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    March 11, 2019 11:55 a.m.

    The prescriptions for losing are many.

    One prescription for success...

    Ball security.

    One play at a time.

    One possession at a time.

    One series at a time.

    One qtr at a time.

    One half at a time.

    One game at a time.

    Grind.

    Work hard.

    Assignment football.

    Be there to pick up team mates.

    Play every down like it the last opportunity you will ever have.

    No regrets.

    Go Utes!

  • PhilRM Anchorage, AK
    March 11, 2019 11:41 a.m.

    Washington is still the top dog. Oregon is on a major rebound. Chip Kelley will have UCLA back in shape. There's always Stanford. Utah won't even be in the PAC-12 championship. They generally find a way to screw things up unfortunately.

  • Lester L. Wester Salt Lake City, UT
    March 11, 2019 11:27 a.m.

    Too smart?: "And thus the hype begins...."

    Except it's from informed outside sources, not the uneducated masses.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    March 11, 2019 11:00 a.m.

    This sounds like hype but there isn't a team in the Pac-12 that can touch the Utes. ASU maybe - but nobody else. The Utes should waltz to the Rose Bowl with no problem.

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    March 11, 2019 10:51 a.m.

    KimmyP. - As usual, you are directly on point about the hype machine in Provo. How many years in the past has the Provo-hype machine won the pre-season national championship? 17 of the last 20 years. The last three years, they have been sort of quiet - thankfully.

  • packers roy, UT
    March 11, 2019 10:47 a.m.

    The Rose Bowl? As a Ute fan, the only game I worry about is the 1st game of the year, I'll worry about the 2nd game after the 1st, and so on, no talk about winning the South, winning the Pac-12, winning the Rose Bowl, not like some teams that talk about winning everything in the Spring and Summer, one game at a time, however, it is a Great time to be a Ute.

  • Utah-Hawaii Alum CA, 00
    March 11, 2019 10:46 a.m.

    Well, we Utes hope for a good season and let the chips fall where they do. We have a ton of great players, but the O-line is the key issue for Utah in 2019. We also must hope that our starting linebackers stay healthy as well. Our schedule bodes well for a great year.........three sad OOC cupcakes to get our lineups solidified and 5 PAC home games.

    What would Y fans be prognosticating if they were hypothetically favored to play in the Rose Bowl in 2019?..........the insanity would be off any possible chart at least! They, most all, actually think that lil' Zachary Wilson will lead them to "glory" vs Utah in August? Oh my? BWAHAHA!

  • Hugo West Jordan, UT
    March 11, 2019 10:44 a.m.

    Predictions from National Media aren't hype. Hype is when your own team and fans start making ridiculous predictions and feeding off of each other until you wind up with a washed-up, has-been school thinking they're going to the playoffs.

  • Spoons lake tahoe, NV
    March 11, 2019 10:22 a.m.

    Would be an absolute dream season for sure! Schedule sets up nicely with no Oregon and Stanford. Take it one week at a time, stay healthy and catch a break or two.

    I look forward to the season. Go Utes!

  • KimmyP Grantsville, UT
    March 11, 2019 10:10 a.m.

    @too smart for you,

    "and thus the hype begins"...

    At least the hype surrounding the Utes is not coming from within, unlike the hype machine in provo during every preseason. 😹

  • KimmyP Grantsville, UT
    March 11, 2019 10:03 a.m.

    Certainly it's far too early to lend much credence to these predictions, but it is nice to have the national pundits giving the Utes respect for the roster they have assembled this year. 👍

  • toosmartforyou Kaysville, UT
    March 11, 2019 9:39 a.m.

    And thus the hype begins....

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    March 11, 2019 9:04 a.m.

    I always chuckle at the talking heads in Sports. That's one thing I have in common with Coach Whitt. Snap on the chin strap and play the game. Whatever the talking heads say has nothing to do with the outcome.