If States and the Federal Gov focused on Crime and Punishment there would be no
need for hate crime bills. Murder is murder, assault is assault. Justice should
be equal across the board not favoring any group.
@NoNamesAccepted - March 8, 2019 2:15 p.m.One problem with your
premise. "whites, rural residents, conservatives, heterosexuals, and
conservative Christian churches" already receive preference at law. This
bill is designed for the sole purpose of giving people who are not part of these
preferred demographics (racial or sexual minorities, liberal groups, and
non-Christian faith groups) equal standing at the law. It's not giving
them any preference -- it is merely giving them equity. And that's how the
law SHOULD handle this issue.
If Smollett had perpetrated his phony 'hate' crime in Utah, would he
be charged with a 'hate' crime against white people and Trump
supporters? Anyone out there NOT know the answer?
Beware folks it will be the Thought Police who enforce this.
@captain green"We punish people for their actions... NOT for
their thoughts!"Conspiracy to commit a crime.Attempting to
hire a hitman.First/second/third degree murder.Attempting to pick up
a prostitute.All crimes based on people's thoughts.We can and do punish people for their thoughts in this country, and we do it
thousands of times a day.
"If we’re going to do it, then I support doing it for everybody,"
Palmer said.But Rep. Casey Snider, R-Paradise, said the bill already
includes "basically, the bulk of humanity" and questioned the need for
any additions.====If I'm reading this correctly,
Casey Snider sees "basically, the bulk of humanity" as everyone but
conservatives, whites, males, and Christians. Got it!This, ladies
and gentleman, is an apt example of the core problem with hate crime bills. They
will never be applied equally.
Hate Crimes laws are totally unconstitutional! I can't believe the Utah
Legislature is even considering one at all. Surely they know better! We punish
people for their actions... NOT for their thoughts!
And yet, only certain groups are protected, while other groups do not get the
same protections. Any mention of the group most likely to be victims of hate
crimes, but not included in this bill will assure the comment doesn't get
posted.Remove all groups so that all groups have equal protection
and the bill becomes less offensive.Even with that, the problem is
like the old voting literacy tests. While written to ostensibly apply to all,
they really only were applied to disfavored groups. So it is with hate crime
laws. They are written to protect many different groups, but are applied in a
very lop-sided way. Crimes against whites, rural residents, conservatives,
heterosexuals, and conservative Christian churches are most often not
investigated nor treated as hate crimes while similar crimes against racial or
sexual minorities, liberal groups, and non-Christian faith groups are
immediately assumed to be hate crimes.