@belgieOf course the Democrats want teenagers who are 18 or over to vote,
as should the Republicans. But that's because the 26th Amendment to the
United States Constitution prohibits the states and the federal government from
using age as a reason for denying the right to vote to citizens of the United
States who are at least 18 years old. So any effort to deny an 18 year old the
right to vote is unconstitutional. In fact both parties, as American
political institutions which profess to support the US Constitution, should
continuously and strongly encourage ALL eligible persons to exercise their
constitutionally protected rights by participating in the voting process,
irrespective of race, color, creed, religion, age, gender, or party affiliation.
It is imperative that both parties guarantee and ensure the sanctity of the
democratic processes which form the foundations of American democracy, restore a
political process that returns government to the people (i.e., removes big
corporate money and lobbyists), and removes any and all barriers that discourage
Americans from participating in all levels of a constitutionally guaranteed
McAdams may look like a clean cut for Utah politician, but that is far from the
truth. People hoped that he would have the interests of our state as his focus.
In the short time he has been there he has shown that he is nothing more than a
left of center Democrat that doesn't have enough power to stop the
Democrat/Left Wing/Progressive shift going on within his own party. He is
useless as our representative. He has shown by his actions and lack of voice
that he has fallen in line with the big federal government control groups. I
know he was elected as a protest to Trump's winning the Presidency. Mia
Love got burned because the thumb sucking Democrats in SLC needed some revenge.
He will not be reelected. He does not represent us, he represents the New
Democratic Party. He believes in Democratic "Party Uber Alles".
Almost anyone who cares enough to stay informed on politics and have a
well-reasoned opinion will take the time to register and vote. Democrats want
universal voting, including even teenagers (!), because they know that the
majority of the population without enough initiative to register is going to
vote Democratic.As if we needed even more ignorance feeding our
Deseretnews fails to mention that the bill allows convicted felons the right to
vote and forbids states from forbidding them from voting. The bill
orders states how set up their redistricting commissions which is a states
right.The bill would also encourage Washington DC’s
statehood.It also try’s to allow Congress more control over
the Supreme Court. The bill would also allow states to register
kids at 16 years of age.
@sportsfan"remember nancy pelosi's infamous word's -you have
to vote for it to find out what is in it"If those words were so
'infamous' as you claim, it seems you wouldn't have
misrepresented them in your comment.She didn't say what you
claimed and she didn't mean what you claim she meant with her comment.
Since it looks like Mitch McConnell will not even let the Senate take up this
bill at all, my hope now is that Rep. McAdams and the other Democrats in the
House will make each item into its own piece of legislation. So many things
need reforming, so I understand why Democrats tried to put it all in one bill.
But just as it took some years to get us into the precarious situation our
nation is now in with respect to "liberty and justice for all," it will
take some years to get us back on firmer ground.And I'd like to
think that it will be harder for this state's congressional representatives
to denounce the items when it is clearer to the public what the democrats are
actually proposing. But I've been wrong about this kind of thing a lot in
the last several years.
Ethics reform. How is this subtracting from the health of the country?
There seems to be an argument by many folks here that increasing campaign
finance transparency, drawing independent districts, ensuring that American
citizens who want to vote can (and won't be disenfranchised), and making
sure that American citizens have more of our Senators' and
Representatives' "ear' is a bad thing. That it is an Un-American
thing. The only argument our esteemed Republican representatives have is to lie
about the bill, claim our "rights" are being taken away, and spin,
spin, spin. I am baffled by these arguments. No bill is perfect, but
it is clear that the average American citizen has very little influence on our
representative government, while giant corporations, PACs, and mega-donors get
everything they want from Congress. There are people in this country that are
having a hard time getting to the ballot box, because some dishonest folks are
putting obstacles in their path (note Georgia's last election). It's
time for all of this monkey business to end. If one party or another is afraid
that ensuring every American citizen can vote will be detrimental to them, they
need to start serving the American people better, make better bills, and better
A bill that addresses ethics reforms and voters' rights, and the
Republicans launch an all-out attack on it.That speaks volumes.
Hilarious to see some of these responses. Haha. Absolutely hilarious. You guys
better run down in your basements and huddle up with all your provisions. The
big bad government is going to come and get you! Haha.
Who doesn't want to get Big Money out of Politics?Who wants
their Vote to Count?The Trump Tax Plan was written By Lobbyist! Most Congressmen hadn't even read it all before voting on it.The Electorical College needs to be Eliminated, Why?My vote
should count as Much as your vote, But if my vote was from California,
Pennsylvania, Texas, Florida, New York, Illinois, etc. All those Electorical
votes go to who ever wins the State. So my vote would be carry "more bang
for the buck" if it was from Idaho, Wyoming, Nevada, Montana and yes Even
Utah.Every Person age 18 older should have the opportunity to Vote,
and yes Voting should be made Easier not Harder.A Fair district
should be drawn and adjusted with Population growth and not to suit
"Political" Party.The Republican platform is to serve big
money donors. Keep the money coming in. It sure would be nice if
your Congressman spent their time working for you and not raising money to get
re-elected.Thank You Rep McAdams keep up fighting for the People.
Three cheers for Rep. McAdams! And shame on Bishop, Stewart, and Curtis! This bill, if enacted, would go a long way toward creating true representative
democracy in this country. It strengthens ethics laws at a time of rampant
political corruption; it expands voting rights at a time when countless
Americans are effectively and unjustly deprived of those rights; and it reforms
our campaign finance system, currently the most expensive and most undemocratic
in the developed world.Right now it's just a start, sure to be
torpedoed by Mitch McConnell in the GOP-controlled Senate. But it's also a
warning shot across the bow, as most Americans are solidly behind such reforms
and will ultimately have their voices heard!
I wish they would have had only the automatic registration and the national
holiday in this bill. I know that would still be controversial, but there would
be nothing to hide behind.
From the Article:"In a tweet earlier this week, Rep. Chris
Stewart said "H.R. 1 is the single worst bill we have considered since
I’ve been in Congress. It is authoritarian and anti-free speech."This is rich coming from a party which until January held a
'monopoly' on the Congress, has had now 2 years of a President who is
now openly attempting to circumvent the Constitution, and has used every
opportunity to discredit the Press, a protected class via the same
Constitution.In a word, if there is to be some finger pointing on
'authoritarian and anti-free speech', it is the Republicans and Trump
who are the main forces engaging in authoritarian processes and anti-free speech
activities, with the power of the state.
Rep. Curtis is quoted as saying "Election integrity and access is critical,
but cannot and should not be managed in a one-size-fits-all, centralized federal
government program.” This sounds suspiciously like objections that were
raised to the Civil Rights Act. If the issue is that critical it deserves a
uniform, national remedy.
The American people want campaign finance reform. We want "dark money"
out of our elections. We want ethical leaders and want to be able to hold them
accountable. We want more of our fellow citizens to be able to vote. This really seems like a step in the right direction to me, and I don't
care which Party sponsored the bill - I'm just glad it is finally being
done and hope it gets passed. It seems very reasonable. The
complaints against it are down right silly. Who makes this stuff up? The fear
mongers at Fox News? Do they really think so little of their viewers? Maybe it
is true that they can just make stuff up, and their viewers just believe it
without checking any other sources, or applying any logic.The
Federal government is trying to take over the states? This isn't a
state's rights issue. Socialism! That is just the new scary word being
thrown around. Ethical leadership and transparency does not create a Socialist
State. When our founders decided on the second Tuesday of November,
they did so because it would make voting easier...for those who could vote. Why
wouldn't we apply the same logic today? I think Washington and
Adams would want this bill passed.
Not surprised at all. More control for the government and less responsibility
for the citizens. Thank you comrad McAdams. And the clueless Ut voters
sent this guy in place of Mia Love.
Good Job Ben, you are now right along side AOC and Ohmar!And that
includes the Ohmar who essentially called Obama a Murderer in his treatment of
children on the border!
"Who votes the dems into office anyway?""Who voted for people
like him?"124,754 people voted for Ben McAdams. 54% of his
Congressional district voted for him. Also, almost 30% of Utah voted
for Hillary Clinton, who didn't have the support of many Democrats. Sure,
that's not a majority but, considering that, having at least _one_ of our
four representatives be a Democrat does seem to more accurately represent the
population of Utah than a solid wall of GOP. Utah is not a "blue state"
by any stretch, but it's a lot more blue here than a lot of people seem to
realize and they deserve some representation as well.
@Cactus - Moroni, UTSo with Pioneer Day, as a small business owner
would I have to give my employees a state holiday off and pay them? If they are
not of Worthy Pioneer Stock, can I demand my money back or require them to come
So, when did voting become so hard? You simply go online, register, and go to
the voting booth on voting day which is usually open for 12 hours. They have
expanded early voting hours and times. In Davis county, I get a mail in ballot
so I simply complete my ballot and put it in the mail. How hard is that? Voting
is a privilege so make it a priority. What the DesNews left out was
that this bill also defended localities that allow illegal immigrants to vote in
their elections. This is reported in the Washington Times but the DesNews
won't let me add a link.
Seems like nary a day goes by that we don't read an article about how this
man is out of step with regular Utah folk. If he doesn't get his act
together I'm sure the voters will take care of that problem next election.
Another democrat Trojan Horse...Sweet and innocent on the outside, full of worms
and disease on the inside. Who votes the dems into office anyway?
"So with this bill, as a small business owner I would have to give my
employees a holiday off and pay them for Election Day? If they don't vote,
can I demand my money back or require them to come to work?"No,
that's not how federal holidays work anyways. As far as I know, it would be
the same as any other federal holiday.And no, you couldn't
demand your money back or even ask if they voted. The day is for everyone to
have the opportunity to vote.
>remember nancy pelosi's infamous word's "you have to vote for
it to find out what is in it"Clearly you don't remember
them. She actually said "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out
what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy".Amazing how
that last part is always omitted and misrepresented. At this point, the ACA had
been publicly debated for almost a year and had an insane amount of hearings.
Her point was not that it was secret, but that it had been debated to death by
so many words, and that it was finally to the point where it was time to see it
>Like the ACA, promoted as a healthcare law, but infact it was a
tax...remember nancy pelosi's infamous word's "you have to vote
for it to find out what is in it".Remember when those words were
taken out of context? While she did say those literal words, Snopes explains the
meaning:"Although the point is not made clearly or explicitly,
it appears that the sense of Pelosi’s remarks was that the benefits (in
her view) of the bill – rather than the contents of the bill – would
only be fully revealed to the public after it was passed and implemented.
"Search Snopes for the full analysis.
I know the devil is in the details but the main headlines of the bill look great
to me: Automatic voter registration, Election Day a holiday, independent
redistricting, limiting special interest groups. Making voting
easier is good. Limiting lobbying and increasing transparency is good. I really wish the two parties would come together to work out a similar bill
they can both agree on. At the very least we could make Election Day
a national holiday, move it to a weekend, or make absentee ballots readily
available so more people can vote. I'm also hugely in favor of
independent redistricting (and yes, this is possible–not everyone is
driven by political parties, and an imperfect independent redistricting system
would be better than what we do now). Gerrymandered congressional districts can
disenfranchise voters and push elected officials to political extremes. I'd also love to see a wholesale redesign of how ballots are cast.
Instead of selecting a single candidate on a ballot, some type of ranked order
vote (allowing for instant runoffs) should improve the consensus behind elected
officials. This allows multiple candidates from a single party to run and reduce
This is the problem with how our legislature's and congress people do
business, they conjure up a bill that has a few good things in it that would
actually be good, while omitting to the public the things in the bill that are
detrimental.Like the ACA, promoted as a healthcare law, but infact
it was a tax...remember nancy pelosi's infamous word's "you have
to vote for it to find out what is in it".How and why we have
this much corruption in our govt is sad, quite literally is there such a thing
as a honest politician regardless of the party?I think we know the
Great Bill, Thank you Congressman McAdams. Why are the Republicans so afraid of
voter's rights? Voting is an American value, Election day should be a
Well, that speaks volumes about Utah's Republican delegation....
“No president in modern history has done more to undermine the rule of law
and destroy public trust in our institutions than Donald Trump," said Tom
Perez, DNC chairman. "No political party has done more to disenfranchise
voters and reward wealthy special interests at the expense of the middle class
than the Republican Party."This is an absolute lie. Obama did
more damage to free speech, 2nd amendment rights, constitutional government, and
liberty than any president in history. The fact that Trump was elected says a
lot about the 'trust' people didn't have in our government.
Trump was elected without Democratic and Republican support. How is that
possible? It is possible because millions and millions have been watching our
government take power away from individual rights in favor of group rights,
something as Anti American as anything in history.
I find it baffling that a reasonable bill aiming to increase transparency in
American elections and reduce corruptions can be spun as "only favoring the
Democrats".If increasing transparency and reducing corruption
hurts your party, doesn't it follow that your party benefits from
corruption and a lack of transparency?
Sounds to me like this a bill to help improve the ethics of legislators and
lobbyists. I believe McAdams is right and the other 3 are more interested in
protecting existing turf.
So with this bill, as a small business owner I would have to give my employees a
holiday off and pay them for Election Day? If they don't vote, can I demand
my money back or require them to come to work?
The bill has some good things and some not so good things. Like the border
issue, a good bill could have been produced if a few Republicans and Democrats
got together and prepared a reasonable, well thought through bill that most
people in both parties could unite behind. But politics being what it is today,
campaign and voter reform is a dead issue because discrediting the enemy party
is more important than doing something that will help the nation. Never have I
had so much disgust and contempt for our leaders in both parties than I have
today and I have been voting for over half a century.
"They want the feds to run everything and take all power away from the
states"Well, for one that's not entirely true. But frankly,
sometimes the federal government does need to step in if the states are abusing
their power. It's not a perfect system, for sure. But there are states out
there that do anything they can do disenfranchise their voters and one, standard
voting rights policy across the country is not a bad thing.Is this
the solution? I don't know. But the GOP sticks their head in the sand and
pretends like political participation isn't a problem in this country. It
IS a problem. More people feel less involved and less represented in the US than
any other time in modern history. And by many measures, we're barely a true
democracy, if even."making the senate population-based rather
than 2 per state"Citation needed. That's not part of HR 1.
Let us hope he does not win reelection. Who voted for people like him?
It's mind boggling.
The only one with a spine-
Let's hope this uninformed man is only in office for 1 3/4 more years. He
is in lock-step with the Democrats who want anybody who walks across our border
to be able to vote. No registration, no checks, no balances. I can see why Chris
Steward was alarmed.I do not want a one-party fits all, socialistic
centralized government. Heaven save us with what is happening in the Dem party
right now on Capitol Hill.
Yikes - let's take every power away from the states and make everything
federal. The Democrat agenda is getting clearer and clearer. They want the feds
to run everything and take all power away from the states, including getting rid
of the electoral college, making the senate population-based rather than 2 per
state, etc. If there's a way to create a schism and hasten secession, they
are for it. I'm not a fan of many things the Rs are doing, but I cannot
support a party that wants a centralized socialist country.