Cohen turns over documents on Moscow project to House panel

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  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    March 7, 2019 7:08 a.m.

    The reasoning that Donald lies all the time since all politicians lie all the time and that makes it okay for the Donald to keep making false statements is absurd. The Donald has become unaccountable for anything he states and it is getting worse. No longer need evidence or oaths just a story and unquestioning supporters.

  • Joe Leaphorn Scottsdale, AZ
    March 6, 2019 6:41 p.m.

    2 bits - Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 6, 2019 11:45 a.m.

    "It's not a crime to have financial dealings with people in Russia."

    Almost the same laws apply for financial dealings here in the United States as it is in foreign nations EXCEPT an entity must let the government know what kind of financial dealings with a foreign government entails. All must be legal under U.S. law and not be against the interests of the United States. This is why the national security intelligence agencies get involved in investigating these business deals.

    Whether you consider Donald Trump lying about his business interests in Russia are a problem, we'll leave that to the courts. However, he lied to the American people during the campaign which voters need take note. When 64% of the American people think Trump committed crimes before he was elected president, one wonders how this would have played out if this information was known before the election.

    Because of the questions raised, there is ample reason to investigate all of Trump's foreign business and examine how it was financed and what the specifics are. This includes his investments here in the U.S. Who owns it? Who paid for it? And how?

  • Mad Hatter Santa Fe, NM
    March 6, 2019 6:33 p.m.

    wgirl - , 00
    March 6, 2019 5:37 p.m.

    "Did Trump lie just because he doesn't know how not to lie...he is a liar by nature, or did he lie because there is something going on that he was trying to hide?"

    Both. Donald Trump lies as easily as he breathes air. Since he has this narcissistic need to win and be the best, he has learned to lie to maintain the illusion that he always wins and is the best. Why else would he get rich and powerful friends to try and get his education records? Also, why does he have everyone around him (including his own staff in the White House) sign non-disclosure agreements? It's just his way and has become his "normal" way of living his life.

    Also, Trump is aware of when he runs afoul of public propriety and the law. In these cases, Trump lies and demands others to lie on his behalf. This is the situation we have seen with Michael Cohen. We may see it with Roger Stone and Paul Manafort and other witnesses in the near future. But Trump is very aware of the lies in these cases where he demands protection from those who have pledged loyalty to him. We'll see how this works out as more evidence comes forward and people find their positions in jeopardy.

  • Jim Chee Lahaina, HI
    March 6, 2019 6:21 p.m.

    The Great Helmsman - Salt Lake City, UT
    March 6, 2019 3:55 p.m.

    "The founders did not create a system of co-equal branches of government. Rather, they intended for the legislative branch to be dominant, as is evidenced in the Federalist Papers."

    Co-equal as to the significance of the work done by each branch. Not co-equal as to actual duties performed. The legislative branch has more designated duties with the House as the prosecution branch section and the Senate as the judicial branch section. This provides for the "checks and balances" people understand.

    Each branch has its respective obligations to the people. It is the people who hold the government to account.. See excerpts from the Constitution below:

    Article I Section 1

    All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

    Article II Section 1

    The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.

    Article III Section 1

    The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.

  • Bob67 Glenn Dale, MD
    March 6, 2019 5:55 p.m.

    The phrase “checks and balances” was introduced by James Madison, author of the constitution and future President, in commentary that describes how each branch of government can restrain another (Federalist Papers #51). For example, the President can veto laws presented to him by Congress, which can in turn override his veto. Congress can also impeach members of the Executive branch or the Judiciary. Members of the Supreme Court are approved by the Senate.

    In practice, the Judiciary can declare laws unconstitutional, even though not spelled out explicitly in the Constitution.

    Having suffered at the hands of the monarch King George III, the framers of the US Constitution were very wary of allowing too much power to concentrate in the hands of one branch of government, or of one person in any branch.

    @The Great Helmsman - Salt Lake City, UT
    “Neither of the other two branches can touch a member of the Congress.”

    Judicial review can nullify Congress's laws, just not individual members.
    No member of Congress is exempt from arrest on Federal charges!

  • wgirl , 00
    March 6, 2019 5:37 p.m.

    @2 bits: "It's not a crime to have financial dealings with people in Russia."

    True - so why did Trump lie so much about it?

    Why did Kushner try to keep it off his security pass application?

    Why - if they didn't do anything wrong, and it isn't a crime, then why such an effort to cover it up?

    Did Trump lie just because he doesn't know how not to lie...he is a liar by nature, or did he lie because there is something going on that he was trying to hide?

  • The Great Helmsman Salt Lake City, UT
    March 6, 2019 3:55 p.m.

    @Bob67 - Glenn Dale, MD

    "Our constitution specifies a system of checks and balances to prevent power grabs by the executive, or by any other branch of government."

    Please show me where it says that in the Constitution?

    The founders did not create a system of co-equal branches of government. Rather, they intended for the legislative branch to be dominant, as is evidenced in the Federalist Papers.

    Want proof? Congress can remove officers from the other two branches (president, agency heads, judges in district or supreme courts.) Neither of the other two branches can touch a member of the Congress.

  • Mackenzie Iwamoto Bronx, NY
    March 6, 2019 3:44 p.m.

    2 bits - Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 6, 2019 1:11 p.m.

    "I don't give him a pass. But I kinda understand how he got trapped."

    Trapped? By whom? You don't think that Donald Trump did anything criminal, and it is his attorneys lying for him that got him in trouble? Maybe you can clarify the lawyer-client interface in this series of scandals.

    It has been implied by Michael Cohen that Trump knew what he was doing and communicated with his staff and lawyers what he wanted them to do. He wanted loyalty and protection. Suggest you read up on Roy Coen, Trump's mentor and quasi-father figure, and see how he learned to live amonst the more notorious members of New York society.

    The money is very good, but responsible lawyers don't usually lie except when they can be compromised by their client. This is why RICO is so important in this case and evidence is gathered from many places to get at the top of the criminal activity. New we will watch as the evidence begins to be introduced to the public so they can see how the investigators are building their case. Checks, letters, documents, and multiple witnesses do a case make.

    This is not an assault on America. This is a purge. A cleansing.

  • Fabulous Jen Eagle Mountain, UT
    March 6, 2019 2:29 p.m.

    2 bits wrote 1:56 PM:

    "And it was pretty obvious he had at least committed purgery . . . "

    Anyone who commits pergery should be immediately sent to Purgatory!

  • Bob67 Glenn Dale, MD
    March 6, 2019 2:28 p.m.

    Our constitution specifies a system of checks and balances to prevent power grabs by the executive, or by any other branch of government.

    Michael Cohen brought the checks to his hearings. Congress and Mueller have the balances, for now. The people will speak in 2020!

  • Lia , 00
    March 6, 2019 2:21 p.m.

    2bits

    The Senate can't protect him from treasonous or felonious acts.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 6, 2019 1:56 p.m.

    Lia 10:04
    RE: "I love this...trump has nowhere to hide"...
    ---
    That may make your day, but don't get too smug, he still has one place, the Senate.

    Ds were the minority in Senate when Pres Clinton was Impeached, and Senate voted to acquit him. And it was pretty obvious he had at least committed purgery (he admitted he did after the DNA evidence came out). Obstruction was a more subjective, but Senate acquitted Clinton of all charges. It will probably be the same now. Especially where the President's party has a comfortable majority in the Senate this time. And it takes 2/3rds voting guilty. 67 of 100 have to vote guilty. Think 22 Rs will vote guilty? 0 Ds voted guilty last time

    ===

    RE: "Mueller will drop a boatload of evidence that can't be shoved aside or ignored.
    ---
    I hope so. After all this time if it's not huge both sides are going to be real mad.

    ===

    RE: As ye reap, so shall ye sow...how perfect"...
    ---
    Are you saying that to Democrats in Congress? Or to Trump?

    ===

    RE: "blowback"...
    ---
    Blowback is why Ds have been told to not talk about Impeachment yet. Not close to an election. Because there will be blowback if Americans feel they overreached.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 6, 2019 1:11 p.m.

    @FanOfTheSith
    RE: "Never lie to Congress in the first place or your reputation and trustworthiness are floating down the filthy political gutter"...
    ---
    I don't give him a pass. But I kinda understand how he got trapped.

    Lawyers (especially lawyer to rich and famous celebrities) are trained to cover for their clients, and even lie to cover for their clients. Even in court. They are used to standing before judges in robes and lieing their heads off to get their clients off. Then they appear before the politicians, and these guys don't look as impressive as a judge, so they may still respond to that instinct to cover for their client. And before they know it... they're in big trouble. For doing what they were trained to do in college and what they've been paid to do every day of their career until the day they walked into that room with politicians asking the questions.

    Doesn't make his lieing OK. But layers are kinda used to lieing and covering for their clients. It's probably hard to resist what they've been trained to do all their life. and turn on their clients.

    Politicians. Lawyers. Both have such a subjective and situational relationship with the truth.

  • Lia , 00
    March 6, 2019 12:45 p.m.

    @ute alunmi

    Still clinging to fantasy.....

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    March 6, 2019 12:25 p.m.

    The hidden message of the story, never lie to Congress in the first place or your reputation and trustworthiness are floating down the filthy political gutter.

    It is funny to think that no one can lie inside a chamber, occupied by more than a dozen liars (politicians). LOL!

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    March 6, 2019 12:21 p.m.

    The Quinnipiac University survey found that 64 percent of respondents believe that Trump broke the law before taking office, while only 24 percent do not. The rest either don't know or are unsure.

    Most Americans aren't being fooled by the carnival barker.

    Something that evades the trump supporters, is that Cohen lied to cover for Donald.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 6, 2019 11:55 a.m.

    @ECR
    If Cohen had been offered a Pardon by Trump... do you think he'd be dishing on trump like he has the past 2 weeks?

    I doubt he's been offered a pardon by Trump.

    Who got a pardon? Names.

    Pardons have to be announced, even Presidential pardons. I haven't heard of any pardons announced... have you?

    Unless you know of someone who was pardoned by Trump... sounds like fake news to me.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    March 6, 2019 11:45 a.m.

    It's not a crime to have financial dealings with people in Russia.

    Russia has a big economy. So does China. If you do business internationally... you're probably going to do some business with Russia, and China. Trump ran an international Hotel line before becoming President. He's probably going to have financial dealings with people in other countries. They do business differently in Russia, but they still do business.

    Jon Huntsman Jr (and Huntsman Chemical) have had financial ties to Russia for decades. He's our Ambassador to Russia today. It helps to know a little about Russia before becoming Ambassador to Russia.

    Huntsman Chemical had business dealings in China too. President Obama appointed him Ambassador to China. A sin?

    I think you'll find that doing business in Russia, or China, is not illegal. In fact a lot of Americans, and a lot of American companies do business and have financial dealings in Russia, and China. It doesn't make you a bad person.

    They also do business differently there. It's normal to have to pay government officials to do business in Russia, or China. Nothing gets done without the government's permission.

  • ECR Burke, VA
    March 6, 2019 10:25 a.m.

    "There is nothing inherently improper about a subject in a criminal investigation seeking a pardon from a president given the president's wide latitude in granting them."

    That sentence comes right out of the Sean Hannity playbook. Of course there is something "inherently improper about a subject in a criminal investigation seeking a pardon from a president given the president", when the crime that subject committed is related to work he did for that same president. William Barr was recently confirmed as the new Attorney General of the United States and in his testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee, despite his continued obfuscation in answering a variety of questions from the panel, when someone asked him if offering a pardon to someone who has committed crimes that help the president, is a crime, Barr's one word answer was, 'Yes."

    In his testimony before the Oversight Committee last week, Mr. Cohen explained how Mr. Trump communicates his issues - not with a direct order, but with a wink and a nod. There is not doubt that Trump has offered up a pardon, through the code language Mr. Cohen described, to those criminals who have not testified against him.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    March 6, 2019 10:18 a.m.

    Michael Cohen’s January 2016 email to Dmitry Peskov and Ivanka Trump’s October 2015 exchange with Dmitry Klokov — was ostensibly about efforts to construct a Trump-branded building in Moscow.

    Donald Trump Jr., took a meeting with the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank while attending the National Rifle Association’s annual convention in Kentucky in May 2016. The meeting was arranged by a US conservative activist named Paul Erickson, who got in touch with senior Trump campaign aide Rick Dearborn to set it up, explicitly as a step toward creating back-channel communications between Russia and the campaign.

    Trump Jr., along with Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort, attended the infamous Trump Tower meeting whose purpose was explicitly described as “part of Russia and its support for Mr Trump” and was said to involve incriminating information about Hillary Clinton.

    That Trumpworld was clearly open to both political collusion and financial dealmaking with the Russian government.

    The fact that all of this was lied about and swept under the rug is further evidence that there was Russia-related wrongdoing that is being covered up.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    March 6, 2019 10:17 a.m.

    He needs an office there and staff. No spin can disregard the fact that he was a major player on team Trump for years, until his office was searched by a search warrant.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    March 6, 2019 10:14 a.m.

    This issue about a potential pardon is a canard, a red herring, intended to throw everyone off the the main question: Trump's behavior. Who cares if Cohen asked for a pardon or not. He lied, and he did so on behalf of Trump. And he is going to jail. Where is the accountability for Trump? It's another tactic by the Republicans to stir up a false controversy and point the finger at the wrong person. The same thing happened with the Clinton e-mail controversy. Step back at look at it objectively. The e-mails of the DNC were hacked and supposedly released. This was twisted into finger pointing at Clinton. Yet I did not see anything about the content of the e-mails that was scandalous at all. Nothing. Clinton and the DNC were victimized, and Republicans falsely asserted they had done wrong. It is all manipulation, and I still can't believe the media fell for it. The same is true about the Cohen pardon. It's a side issue, nothing more and not really relevant. Look to Trump. That's where the problem is.

  • Lia , 00
    March 6, 2019 10:04 a.m.

    Cohen is just setting the table--

    I love this...trump has nowhere to hide...and if he thinks he can tweet all of this away,
    he's sadly mistaken.

    Mueller will drop a boatload of evidence that can't be shoved aside or ignored.

    Nobody 'did this' to trump.
    Nobody randomly decided to investigate---
    trump has been begging for it all along...it is his own lack of sense and decency that have precipitated all of this investigation.

    As ye reap, so shall ye sow...how perfect.

    He has only his arrogant, lying self to blame for all of this blowback.