Thomas Jefferson is correct, bills like this frighten right wing conservatives
for some reason.This doesn't punish anybody who hasn't
already committed a crime, and only applies to crimes meant to hurt a community
or group thru acts of terror.It's not the thought police, they
aren't trying to read minds, they are looking at evidence, and the evidence
of the crimes reason or lack there of.
The evidence of hate crime is speech. It must be expressed to be proved.
So...isn't there something in the Bill of Rights about that?Of
course, a prosecutor could attempt to prove hate without an expression. For
example, Mr. Landlord would not rent to a gay couple, but rented the space to a
straight couple. Therefore, his discrimination is a hate crime. But that is a
very subjective allegation. Maybe the gay couple smelled of cigarettes or get a
bad report from their reference or failed the credit check.How do
you know why landlords chose couple A over couple B?So, it's
either mind-reading or abrogating our freedom of expression. Neither prospect
appeals to me.
Identity politics is evil, and is used by our enemies to divide us. Hate crime
legislation is just identity politics in law.Judges already have
wide discretion in sentencing.
It is very disappointing to see this added to what is an already disturbing
trend toward institutionalized tribalism and bigotry inherent in the cherished
group-identity politics of so-called "progressivism".Continuing down this path has always proven to be **very** bad.
"--or a long list--- ": There is the problem.Sorry, you're
not on the list-- nothing will be done. Isn't motivation a
factor used by both defense and prosecution? Why take that away from the jury
and the sentencing judge?
Every time this bill comes up our conservative posters get all up in arms. Its
almost like they are worried that they will have their charges enhanced by it.
This is a completely misguided bill.The whole idea of "America" is
that each individual is a "protected class". Breaking up the
population into "special classes" just enhances the Liberal-Left's
efforts to divide America. Socialism always takes hold under the premise of
"protecting the people".Let's simply protect all
@NoNames;FYI; Heterosexual is a sexual orientation and thusly would
be covered. Oh my!Your "favored groups" nonsense is just
Let's just all stop acting like victims. A crime can always be considered
hateful, so what does this bill even do.? Disagreeing, or misgendering with a
Democrat is considered a misdemeanor nowadays.
This makes no sense, and it hurts freedom. This is yet another bill just to say
that Utah has one of these things--so that we're more like most states.
One thing I notice is that they don't mention numbers in these
debates. It's all about rhetoric and feeling more secure since potential
assailants will now weigh the greater consequence and not attack based on
'who someone is'. Maybe we need laws against crimes--wait, what?? Oh, or maybe crimes will only be committed for good reasons--thanks to good
policy-making like this. Phew; I'm glad we've now defined better
reasons to attack someone. We're really lucky to have leaders with vision,
intelligence and conviction to tell attackers, 'No!'. Well played,
indeed. Utah is about to become a whole lot safer--and even more PC. The legislature needs to spend its time on real issues and real solutions.
Thus we will be discriminating against a certain class of victims, strictly
because they are not one of the protected classes.It is just as wrong, and
the flip side of the same coin to discriminate negatively against some people or
for other people.This bill is a mockery of the concept of "equal
justice for all."Same on those advocating or voting in favor of
discrimination in any form.
If the purpose is to protect everyone, then why object to adding another
category or two to the protected list?Obviously, this is about
protected politically favored groups while not protecting other groups.Goose and gander, indeed. Clearly some animals are more equal than others.