Does it matter where a baby is born? New report rates states on how well they help babies thrive

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  • quackquack Park City, UT
    March 4, 2019 2:05 p.m.

    Social economics or socioeconomics, is concerned with the relationship between social and economic factors within society.

    Certain goods or services may be unavailable to specific classes based on their ability to afford them and their income. These goods or services can include access to more advanced or complete medical care, educational opportunities, and the ability to buy food & medicine.

    The subject matter at hand is not an opinionated discussion their is literally decades of research that show economics play a huge role in an individuals success. The only debatable matter is the term success of which is subjectable on what an individual considers successful.

    Under many standards the basic need of just food and shelter is not successful or 3rd world countries who live in tin huts and eat bark would be considered successful.

  • bassoonlady OREM, UT
    March 4, 2019 10:15 a.m.

    Something some commenters aren't taking into account:
    Do you have to have a good education and a good job to be happy?
    Money does contribute to happiness to a certain degree, but once your basic needs are met, money starts giving you diminishing returns until it actually starts to be associated conversely with happiness.
    More indicative of happiness is to have your basic needs met (food, shelter, etc) and have a strong social support system (aka family and friends) than what your education and income levels are.

  • quackquack Park City, UT
    March 4, 2019 9:14 a.m.

    Oh forgot to mention Utah is 30th in the highest educated students in the country

    High school graduation rate: 85.2% (24th lowest)
    Public school spending: $7,207 per pupil (the lowest)
    8th grade NAEP proficiency: 37.9% (math) 38.0% (reading)

    Sure we might be one of the friendliest but that doesn't mean your child will get the best education or development so the article is true if you were born in the state that is one of the top 10 or the other29 states and are rated higher than Utah then they would get a better education and more resources due to where they were born.

  • quackquack Park City, UT
    March 4, 2019 7:56 a.m.

    Love this article and its comments first Yes it does matter what state (location) you were born. The economic surrounding dictate what opportunities you have and what developments you may receive

    Economic systems influence social structure the article is a brief glance at larger studies that have been going on for decades. The availability of jobs is determined by supply and demand , certain cities, states even countries can experience periods of high unemployment. During the periods of employment development for any child or adult are recessed.

    Many children are unable to finish high school due to poverty and have no chance of higher education regardless of how well loved they are. This was majority of Utah in 60's and 70's
    Looks at the economic grown Utah has had in the last 20 year and now the opportunity these families have. The statistic are are available to review the population level and the number if High school drop outs.

  • PLM Kaysville, UT
    March 3, 2019 9:00 a.m.

    While the study does contain bias, there is some truth to the advantages of location. Our experience living in Newport Beach, Ca was far more culturally enriched and satisfying than our current residence. With more money comes more ability to express creativity, develop talents and basically enjoy life. The schools had more money, the students had more choices for materials and enrichment, theater, music, art. Even the holidays were more fun. Our kindergartener’s class took monthly field trips to historic homes and places, children’s science and music museums, farms, even Knotts Berry Farm, all courtesy of a benefactor that donated the funds for the expenses. Our wealthier neighbors were very generous and welcoming, including us, as newcomers, in all kinds of activities. Not so the case in Utah, where we are regarded as social pariahs. I am so grateful to have lived in a kind and inclusive community but current reality is a painful contrast. Our school district budgets one pencil per student per year and my attempts to contribute to PTA and other groups have been snubbed. Location, location, location.

  • lnkmom Lehi, UT
    Feb. 27, 2019 6:15 p.m.

    Sorry, all my kids were born in the North East... the Postpartum/Neonatal care given to us was abysmal. I was ignored, they didn't inform me about things happening to my children (even babies in the NICU), no help with Breastfeeding, etc. I could go on for hours. Don't even get me started on how my ObGyn couldn't even figure out I was pregnant with twins until my 20 week ultrasound, despite many signs that lead to that simple diagnosis much earlier on.

    No, if you are going to have a baby, especially multiples, Utah is the place! I equate my experience in the North East to the level of care given by the NHS in the UK. They barely take care of the mom and they completely ignore the infant.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 27, 2019 4:29 p.m.

    Utah has the lowest smoking rate. Implying that kids in Utah are encouraged not to smoke. That counts for something doesn't it?

  • WeThePeople Sandy, UT
    Feb. 27, 2019 2:59 p.m.

    Oh look. The Northeast states with their socialism and high taxes score high, while the south ranks low. Why am I not surprised. This is more lefty propaganda.

    We all know that the biggest factor in healthy children is strong families. Good families mean good people, who will take care of their children. Bad people have other priorities.

    Readers beware: the socialist policies of liberal Massachuttes only serve to weaken the family. However hard they try to mend that damage through welfare and other expensive government programs, they will never replace a state with a righteous and deserving family life!

  • Mar4k Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 27, 2019 2:29 p.m.

    I also wanted to note that this article has a silly title. Of course it doesn't matter what state you're born it. What matters is what home you're born in.

  • Mar4k Bountiful, UT
    Feb. 27, 2019 2:22 p.m.

    @bemorefair I dug into the study a bit. First, it seems extremely focused $$$$ by essentially looking at how much money a family has and how much the poor are taking advantage of social programs. I think there's a lot of benefits to families here in Utah that aren't well measured in that way.

    I think the criteria in this study did Utah at a unique disadvantage. Many of our babies are born to students and young couples. I am in college with a little girl and hoping for another. We earn well less than half the poverty line but we get by with scholarships. When I start working we're going to have a healthy middle class income. My wife is already a stay-at-home mom. So on paper we might look disadvantaged: one small income, young couple, already having kids. But in reality I think my daughter is rather privileged.

    " There is no better way to predict the future of our nation than to look at how we are treating our babies today. "
    Yikes. Think of that in the context of abortion.

  • geekusprimus Little Elm, TX
    Feb. 27, 2019 12:33 p.m.

    Massachusetts got a full ranking and is reported having only 2 percent of children having multiple adverse experiences but has a 3.9% rate of child maltreatment? I'm not buying it. This report is all sorts of messed up.

  • imsmarterthanyou Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 27, 2019 12:32 p.m.

    shouldn't matter at all where a kid is born. A child should have same citizenship as parents (citizen of mexico if the child's parents are here illegally), and 100% of financial responsibility should be on the parents, not the taxpayer. I'm sick & tired of supporting other people's kids.

  • bemorefair , 00
    Feb. 27, 2019 11:52 a.m.

    One glance at these rankings is enough to know they are poorly done.

    How is Utah, the most family-friendly state in the country, not #1? The report plainly shows Utah at the top of the list with 88% of children in homes with two parents. That alone is the most important statistic in determining a child's future success. There's plenty of science to back that up.

    Look at how kids are doing overall. Most kids in Utah end up well educated and rearing good-sized families of their own.

    This report is bunk. Utah is the example in many areas of how to help children thrive.