Court records reveal a Mueller report right in plain view

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  • Janet Pete Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 24, 2019 12:50 p.m.

    wgirl - , 00
    Feb. 23, 2019 8:08 p.m.

    " . . . either way, Trump should never have been POTUS."

    Yes, but the election was manipulated to help an extremely bad candidate win. Let's not misunderstand and underestimate the role of James Comey making a mockery by releasing information about Hillary's email server problem and therefore keep it uppermost in the public eye and a detrimental talking point for conservative media.

    And then there are the Russians. Although we cannot say that this is what gave Donald Trump his victory in crucial swing states, we can say that it was significant. The connection with WikiLeaks and the stolen emails being released again focused attention on Hillary's email issues. Remember Trump "asking" Russia to release emails and they promptly did just that almost the next day as if they were already prepared to do that on a pre-arranged signal.

    Then there is the social media blitz through Facebook and Twitter to stoke the fires of anger which cannot be underestimated and the news stories that this strategy created. It is almost like Hillary (or any Democrat) would be at a disadvantage. And the Russian reaped huge benefits from a very modest investment.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Feb. 24, 2019 11:20 a.m.

    @ Eponymous Eggplant

    "This is supposed to pass for unbiased, professional journalism? Most of us are just not that gullible."

    These are all court documents. It's what professional journalism does. All the dots are fairly easy to connect. It does require some critical and sequential thinking.

    Now if you don't believe in dots . . . because dots are mean . . . and ugly . . . and unnerving . . .

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    Feb. 24, 2019 6:14 a.m.

    w girl

    I think that your point is exactly the point that Trump fans should acknowledge. Either he is a fool or a felon, neither of which is a desirable quality in a President. (I could add some other adjectives, but resist that temptation.)

    Despite all the what-about'isms, the but Hllary!, but Obama!, but Comey!, and all the rest of the defense tactics employed by Trump's fan club, we are left with that inevitable conclusion.

    If guilty of conspiring, colluding or any other co's..., Trump does not belong in office.

    If guilty of poor personnel selection and a lack of discernment in hiring, Trump does not belong in office.

    No person belongs in any office of trust who can be shown conclusively 'guilty' of said offenses. And I think the Trump fans know this, but refuse to acknowledge their own lack of judgement in 2016.

  • Jim Chee Lahaina, HI
    Feb. 24, 2019 12:25 a.m.

    GrainOfSalt - Draper, UT
    Feb. 23, 2019 1:19 p.m.

    " . . . the fact that the Russians promoted and disparaged both candidates. In fact, according to one of Mueller's court filings he mentions a Russian sponsored anti-Trump political rally in New York."

    Apparently you missed the social media strategy the Russians employed to target two opposite groups and use propaganda to get them angry enough to attend pre-arranged rallies. Then, the two groups would encounter one another and have a confrontation with their coming together expressed in ways that would attract media attention.

    This information came out in the congressional hearings involving Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube where a major effort was made to spread dissension throughout the United States. Sure the Russians supported anti-Trump rallies. And then they got Trump supporters to either have a rally at the same place at the same time or encouraged Trump supporters to confront the anti-Trump people.

    Helping Trump wasn't the only objective of the Russians. Robert Mueller know far more about this, but the Russians want discord and chaos throughout the Western world. It's the new warfare conducted by directed cyber attack.

  • Joe Leaphorn Scottsdale, AZ
    Feb. 24, 2019 12:10 a.m.

    A Guy With A Brain - Enid, OK
    Feb. 23, 2019 11:03 a.m.

    "This is such an anti-Trump hit piece it's nauseating to read."

    So explain why Donald Trump chooses to meet privately with Vladimir Putin with no American officials present and confiscates the notes of the translator so no record of these meetings is available. Also, what does Trump use an unsecured cell phone to call people so no one in his administration is witness to his calls. Does he talk to Putin this way. We don't know what is going on between Trump and Putin, but we know that he has financial interests and may have other reasons to keep his communications secret.

    As for foreign policy, Trump has done much that the Russians wanted to achieve while the United States has withdrawn from its commitments on the international level. And remember, Trump's call to the Russians to release Hillary's emails came just days after the infamous Trump Tower meeting between Trump, Jr., Jared, and Russians connected with the Russian government.

    So what is it that nauseates you? It can't be that we know all this and have several Trump campaign officials indicted and/or pled guilty to conspiring with the Russians?

  • wgirl , 00
    Feb. 23, 2019 8:08 p.m.

    Trump is either a fool or a felon.

    Either he hired and worked with all of these crooks around him - people like Manafort, Cohen, Stone, Trump Jr. - and knew what they were doing, and participated in their crimes...

    or

    He is a total bafoon that was completely unaware of the people closest to him were doing with his money and to his benefit.

    The facts are the facts...

    either way, Trump should never have been POTUS.

  • Utah_Happyman Orem, UT
    Feb. 23, 2019 8:02 p.m.

    Mueller, Thank you for your service to our great Constitution and the rule of law.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    Feb. 23, 2019 6:23 p.m.

    @ Count

    "HRC was protected..."

    LOL! Comey violated FBI protocol and held a press conference about a case NOT being prosecuted. And then, despite knowing of the emails on Anthony Weiner's computer a month before, he waited to inform Congress of the finding just 10 days before Election Day. Meanwhile, Andy McCabe was leaking info about the investigation to the press - info that was damaging to her. And then there's the whole thing about the public knowing she was under investigation, but it didn't know that the other candidate was.

    I hope I never get protected like that!

    I've changed my opinion. I think only some would be able to see the factual basis of this story if it were about Obama/HRC.

  • ECR Burke, VA
    Feb. 23, 2019 4:43 p.m.

    Eponymous Eggplant suggests this article is more biased opinion than factual reporting. Apparently EE didnt read carefully when the reporters stated:

    “We know this because Mueller has spoken loudly, if indirectly, in court — indictment by indictment, guilty plea by guilty plea. In doing so, he tracked an elaborate Russian operation that injected chaos into a U.S. presidential election and tried to help Trump win the White House. He followed a GOP campaign that embraced the Kremlin's help and championed stolen material to hurt a political foe. And ultimately, he revealed layers of lies, deception, self-enrichment and hubris that followed.”

    Not opinion just facts.

    Oh and when EE suggests some people aren’t gullible I agree with him. Some of us are not gullible enough to think anything Trump has done in office will help our country now or in the future.

  • Count Rushmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2019 4:13 p.m.

    "By way of comparison, here's an opinion: I think you'd readily see this if the subject were Obama or HRC rather than Trump."

    Negative stories about Obama or HRC, based on selective facts, simply weren't published by the corrupt mainstream media. That's the whole point.

    HRC was protected even though there is clear evidence she committed crimes. This was all described in detail by James Comey, just before he lied and claimed that no reasonable prosecutor would take the case. No classified emails were sent? That's a lie. Setting up a homebrew email server couldn't possibly be evidence of intent? That's a lie. And Obama, who actually sent emails to her private, self-administered email account, knew nothing about it. No siree, not a smidgen of corruption in government of the media.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Feb. 23, 2019 3:19 p.m.

    The best analogy is the opening of the Colbert show a couple days ago. It depicts a copy of the Mueller report being crated up and locked up and stored in a warehouse full of crates, in the style of the ending of Raiders of the Lost Ark. It is stored by other crates labelled as containing other trump foibles (Ex wives, etc.). I imagine the administration is hoping this fantasy comes true.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    Feb. 23, 2019 2:51 p.m.

    @ Grain of Salt and Guy With A...

    "...the Russians promoted and disparaged both candidates..."

    In an attempt to sow division overall. But they wanted Trump to win. Putin hated HRC because of how poorly he fared while she was Secy. of State. He knew it would be more of the same with her as POTUS. With Trump? Well, so far he's getting someone who will believe him over U.S. intelligence agencies. What a patriot!!

    @ Count Rushmore and Eponymous

    The article is published as a statement of facts, which it is. There are some instances of drawing conclusions about intent, but they aren't pulled out of thin air. They're based on the behavior being described which, again, is factual. These things did happen. Whether or not the conclusion reached is entirely accurate does not negate that these facts are established. By way of comparison, here's an opinion: I think you'd readily see this if the subject were Obama or HRC rather than Trump.

  • JaneB Wilsonville, OR
    Feb. 23, 2019 2:49 p.m.

    You can't help people who don't want to helped. Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and would not lose supporters.

  • GrainOfSalt Draper, UT
    Feb. 23, 2019 1:19 p.m.

    There is no new information here, and the author conveniently left out the fact that the Russians promoted and disparaged both candidates. In fact, according to one of Mueller's court filings he mentions a Russian sponsored anti-Trump political rally in New York. But these facts don't fit the anti-Trump narrative. And the Press is going into overdrive because it doesn't sound like the Mueller report is going to have anything of substance to indict Trump.

  • Eponymous Eggplant Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2019 12:54 p.m.

    "Donald Trump was in full deflection mode."

    This is supposed to pass for unbiased, professional journalism? Most of us are just not that gullible. Remember, "This is MAGA country."

  • Count Rushmore Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2019 12:35 p.m.

    "Now, there is no allegation in this indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election.

    I want to caution you that everyone changed with a crime is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in court. At trial, prosecutors must introduce credible evidence that is sufficient to prove each defendant guilty beyond any reasonable doubt to a unanimous jury. "

    -- Rod Rosenstein

    I hesitate to comment on the merits of this article, or the fact that it was published as news and not as opinion, for fear of censorship, so I will simply allow the refutation of Mr. Rosenstein to stand as is.

  • one old man MSC, UT
    Feb. 23, 2019 11:59 a.m.

    There really is nothing new here that intelligent Americans have not known for a long time.

  • Karen R. Houston, TX
    Feb. 23, 2019 11:50 a.m.

    Reading this, I'm again reminded of Glenn Simpson's testimony (Fusion GPS) about the kinds of people Trump has associated with his entire life, including Russian mafia. I'm also reminded of my impression of Trump when I first became aware of the guy in the 1980's. Braggadocio, attention-seeking, contemptuous of decency and ethical behavior.

    That so many think this guy is worthy of anything but our wholesale disdain is beyond me.

  • WallE Walla Walla, WA
    Feb. 23, 2019 11:17 a.m.

    As a person who generally voted Republican most of my life I never dreamed the Russians would be able to "sponsor" a guy who holds few traditional Republican values into office. The President supports values that are politically expedient but that don't get in the way of his personal business. Like a Trump Tower in Moscow.

    I hope the Muller report is released in full, and that if the President or his family is indited it comes after the next election when his influence is significantly diminished. I also hope the Russian machine doesn't set its focus on an equally bad Democratic candidate.

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    Feb. 23, 2019 11:03 a.m.

    Oh, brother.

    This is such an anti-Trump hit piece it's nauseating to read.

    Is Trump arrogant? You bet he is.

    Does he sometimes stick his foot in his mouth via Twitter? You bet he does.

    But Trump has more obvious love for America than the entire Democrat party combined.

    Flame away, it matters not. And why? Why do complaints from ignorant people not matter at all? Because "truth" is not a popularity contest; what is true is true regardless of what anyone says about it.

    God bless America.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Feb. 23, 2019 10:40 a.m.

    And yet, despite all this, Trump's disparagement of our intelligence services, and his fondness for dictators, some Americans that identify as "patriots", continue to support Trump. They are complicit in our enemies ability to erode our country.

  • Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 23, 2019 10:22 a.m.

    There it is, trump supporters, in black and white.
    Why trump supporters, who claim to love this country, are not screaming treason, is beyond me.
    Hey trump supporters, liberals are not your enemy.
    You are Americans. Liberals are Americans. See how that works?

    Russia/Putin is the enemy of the US.

  • ECR Burke, VA
    Feb. 23, 2019 10:15 a.m.

    The headline says it all. The truth about the Russian influence in our elections, which Trump has denied and let continue into subsequent elections, has been there in plain sight for most of the past two years. And Trump's support of Russian involvement, and who knows how much more mischief, has been equally visible for those who are seeking the truth. The only questions that remain puzzling, although incredibly puzzling, is what is it that has motivated Trump to deny Russian's involvement, to choose to believe Putin's claims over the claims of our own intelligence services, and to throw our alliance with NATO, the EU and many other long standing allies in complete chaos. Hopefully the Mueller report will tell us why and Attorney General Barr will allow that telling to be made public.

    The American citizens have the right to know the truth.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 23, 2019 9:50 a.m.

    Willingly or not Trump was and still is an agent of Russia. Patriots just shake their head at some Americans complicity in that.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Feb. 23, 2019 8:31 a.m.

    Trump has disgraced our beloved country.