Fluoride moratorium? Utah legislator wants assurances after Sandy water ordeal

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  • Plant Operator Tulsa, OK
    Feb. 26, 2019 8:30 a.m.

    Fluoride is the only substance added at a water treatment plant for the sole purpose of treating the people who drink it. All other chemicals are added as part of the treatment process to make the water safe for consumption. Those who oppose artificial fluoridation are not crackpots. We are caring and concerned citizens, including many well educated and responsible professionals, who value our personal right to choose how we care for our own teeth and limit our exposure to a known poison. Artificial water fluoridation should be outlawed.

  • Palmetto Bug Columbia, SC
    Feb. 21, 2019 1:49 p.m.

    Fluoride in water is good. Malfunctioning equipment is bad.

    We don't need to re-litigate and debate the efficacy of fluoride (scientific evidence overwhelming supports this). Instead, we should focus on proper maintenance and use of equipment and how government communicate with citizens.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Feb. 20, 2019 2:57 p.m.

    I love the hypocrisy here. One incident and a GOP lawmaker wants to shutdown all fluoride in the water. But a bunch of individuals, in separate incidents, kill dozens of people using AR-15's with 35 round clips, bump stocks, suppressors, etc.. But NO WAY, should we even whisper about banning assault rifles. Plus;

    "The average person drinks 11 gallons of water a year, so why are we poisoning the entire water supply with Floride?"

    The average American drinks 44 gallons of soda/year and 58 gallons of water/yr. You can check multiple sources, you can't make your own facts.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    Feb. 20, 2019 1:17 p.m.

    @Prodicus: "Those here claiming that 'politics, not science, supports fluoridation' have their heads in the sands about both science and politics. The scientific consensus, easily seen from any search on the subject, is that it is generally safe and effective."

    There is some irony in your post. "Generally safe and effective" does not include the complete spectrum of real-world risks, such as in this incident, where it became "very dangerous".

    Why should we be mandating threat people submit to potentially very dangerous water treatment programs, when any motivated person can easily get fluoride treatments from their dentist, use fluoride toothpaste, or mouthwash, etc.

    Even a cursory research on the subject of fluoride water treatment reveals the problems with impure and contaminated fluoride chemical stocks (from China), inaccurate measurement into water system, leaks, etc. All so that some politician can claim he implemented "a good idea".

  • Prodicus Provo, UT
    Feb. 20, 2019 12:11 p.m.

    Those here claiming that 'politics, not science, supports fluoridation' have their heads in the sands about both science and politics.

    The scientific consensus, easily seen from any search on the subject, is that it is generally safe and effective.

    Anti-fluoridation politics, on the other hand, have been pushed by extremists and crackpots for a very long time. Less than a decade after the first fluoridation programs, the illogical arguments made against it were already famous enough to be lampooned in the 1964 film "Dr. Strangelove: or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb." Fifty-five years later, today's conspiracy theorists still sound no less ridiculous than Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper's contention that fluoridation was part of a massive Communist plot to "corrupt our precious bodily fluids."

    Municipal water is provided as a public service, and fluoridation serves the public well. If you have a problem with it, go procure your own water rights and deal with your own untreated water as you see fit rather than trying to degrade our public services to meet your fringe ideas.

  • Susan Quinton Draper, UT
    Feb. 20, 2019 10:24 a.m.

    I feel badly for the people affected in Sandy. We live in an area where the people chose not to have fluoride in the water, but it’s a terrible thing to injure children and adults based on faulty science and studies. Hope the hospitals can treat patients for this (the NIH says “Oral administration of a high dose of CaCl2 or MgSO4 is a simple, safe, and effective adjunctive method for treating severe oral fluoride poisoning.” Those are calcium and magnesium.) As for the copper and lead, heavy metal detoxification.

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2019 9:21 a.m.

    Blather related to fluorinated water does not suffice for multiple scientific studies supporting the practice.

  • BOD Stansbury, UT
    Feb. 20, 2019 9:07 a.m.

    All chemicals in drinking water regulations should be re-evaluated and new chemicals (especially manmade) evaluated, as better information becomes available. So do yo have to wonder why in The Nerherlands since 2003, Chloor is not any longer allowed to be used in drinking water, even not to disinfect water lines after repair. Hydrofuoride acid is an industrial (fertilizer) hazardous waste product and may be onky 70% pure. Disposing this waste in an hazardous waste disposal side, would probably cost more than $10 a pound.

  • All American Herriman, UT
    Feb. 20, 2019 9:00 a.m.

    "Fluoride helps prevent tooth decay." Only helps? So does brushing your teeth and flossing. So tell me again why we have to bathe in fluoridated water? The CDC recommends a pea size amount of toothpaste for children and teach them not to swallow it. So why is it okay for our state government to put it into our water to ingest it daily? (It is a state government issue - not federal.) Maybe it's time we sued the state to get them to stop poisoning our drinking water without our consent.

  • Owl Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2019 8:31 a.m.

    Fluoride helps prevent tooth decay. That has been scientifically validated and there are many scientific references that support its use. Any substance, including water or table salt, can be toxic in the wrong proportions. This was a technical problem with the delivery system and perhaps the politicians responsible, but don't confuse the value of fluoridation with the mechanism of delivery.

    Griffin SO, Jones K, Tomar SL. An economic evaluation of community water fluoridation. J Public Health Dent. 2001;61(2):78–86.

  • Weston Jurney West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 20, 2019 8:16 a.m.

    On my way to work today I passed two cars that had been in an accident. So let's shut down all the cars and all the highways until "safety is assured."

  • Red Smith , 00
    Feb. 20, 2019 7:19 a.m.

    99.98% of treated water is not drunk from the tap by humans. The average person drinks 11 gallons of water a year, so why are we poisoning the entire water supply with Floride?

    75% of treated water goes on lawns. Lawns don't need Floride. If folks want Floride, then them buy some to swish with. The mass Floride program in Utah is not based in science, but stupidity.

  • nyscof OLD BETHPAGE, NY
    Feb. 20, 2019 6:53 a.m.

    Fluoridation began in the 1900's with the well-intended but mistaken belief that ingested fluoride would create decay-resistant teeth in children. Modern science disproved that. Fluoride isn't a nutrient or essential for healthy teeth - meaning that consuming a fluoride-free diet does not cause tooth decay but does expose the entire population to fluoride's adverse side effects .

    The FDA regulates fluoride as a drug for topical application but never approved fluoride for ingestion. In fact, fluoride supplements are declared a non-approved drug by the FDA because they have never been tested for safety or effectiveness. The same is true for fluoridation chemicals which were never safety tested in humans or animals.

    Politics, not science, supports fluoridation. It took 50 years for the smoking/cancer link to emerge from dusty research libraries to popular acceptance. The literature is rife with evidence that fluoride is health damaging to some. People need to take their health into their own hands and demand fluoridation end If you wait for gov'ts to catch up to science, it might be too late.

  • MrLogic Brigham City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2019 6:17 a.m.

    Have you noticed that the same legislators that cry "too much government" are the first to overreact? The state is not the solution.

  • J. Smith Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2019 5:01 a.m.

    Fluoride is a toxic industrial waste product, which may also be contaminated with lead, arsenic, radionucleotides, aluminum and other industrial contaminants. The fluoride added to municipal water supplies is not pharmaceutical grade. Twenty-three studies from four countries indicate that even moderate exposure to fluoride lowers IQ. The daily dose of fluoride recommended by the American Dental Association results in the same level of fluoride in your blood shown to cause an 8-point drop in IQ. Poison control should be called if you swallow a quarter milligram of fluoride from toothpaste. Meanwhile just one glass of water can contain this amount of fluoride. To remain within "safe" limits, you'd have to use such a small amount of fluoridated toothpaste that one tube would last you several years.

  • Misseleer71 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 20, 2019 3:07 a.m.

    Stop using fluoride, it never has been a safe acid to use in water and has more side effects dangers than what it has been installed to do.

  • Strider303 American Fork, UT
    Feb. 19, 2019 10:51 p.m.

    Just because a system is "automatic" or operated by "computer" is no guarantee that the system will not fail. Our lives are helped in so many ways by automatic/computer monitored systems that we have become complacent and don't know how to respond when there is a crisis.

    As to the fluoride issue, maybe there is a need to revisit why we are adding this chemical to our water. There have been reports that children are using too much toothpaste and thereby ingesting too much fluoride into their systems. In addition as we only benefit from this chemical when we ingest it, why are we bathing in it, washing our clothes, cars, watering our lawns with it? Seem like it is wasteful of a chemical some feel is so beneficial they prescribe it for all of us, whether we like it or not.

    Perhaps distribution of free fluoride tablets to those who desire to ingest it would save wasting it on our bodies, laundry, cars and lawns and avoid overdosing people by accident. We would save money on not having to maintain the automatic dosing machinery and the fluoride.

    I'll bet the law suits will be interesting.

  • Aggies#1 MURRAY, UT
    Feb. 19, 2019 10:40 p.m.

    Do we really need fluoride in water? I say get rid of it altogether! Children can take supplements if they need it!

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 19, 2019 10:19 p.m.

    This is not something where we need another law,just so politicians can brag they are "doing something."

    Someone messed up, badly, and needs to be held accountable, but passing a law is not the answer. Firing someone is.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Feb. 19, 2019 1:27 p.m.

    "The city began getting complaints Feb. 6, but all of the the impacted areas were not notified until the following week, and test results for lead and copper not disclosed until Feb. 15."

    And that is criminal. People were poisoned and hospitalized because Tom Ward covered this up. There needs to be legal consequences here.