Utah groups back bills to fight domestic violence and suicide

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  • KarlUT Corinne, UT
    Feb. 13, 2019 7:56 a.m.

    "Handy noted Indiana and Connecticut have had a 10 percent reduction in suicides after passing a similar law." Except that's not true... While Connecticut had a reduction in suicide by firearm, the suicide rate in non-firearm related suicide spiked so the overall suicide rate was unaffected. Indiana might have had an overall reduction but their red flag law was far more liberal in allowing guns to be confiscated without a court order or a warrant and the study does not tell us how many confiscation orders were carried out in relation to the reduction of suicides prevented.

    He also forgot to mention that the Connecticut based study also only claimed that the firearm confiscation had no effect in 90 to 95 percent of the firearm confiscation cases. They had to carry out 10 to 20 gun confiscations to "save one life". And it is a fallacy to argue that those additional confiscations were necessary to achieve the reduction, because confiscating a gun from someone who does not intend to commit suicide does not in any way protect someone across town who does.

    There are no studies or data on how red-flag laws effects domestic violence situations.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 12, 2019 10:51 p.m.

    They have to start somewhere to stop all the violence going on in our state whether it is self-inflicted or inflicted on others. At the core of all of this in part is raising young people with healthy self-esteem and that know what a healthy relationship looks like and how to have one. Too many people have the beat dog syndrome and settle for far less in life than they can have including in their relationships. All very sad.