Minne Ute“Since there are BYU fans reading this could one of
them please remind me the last time they went to a Final Four.”First, remind us the last time Utah beat BYU by 20+ points.
It's so refreshing to hear byu fans opinion on a Utah article. They
wouldn't dare miss a chance to bash Coach K. Since there are byu fans
reading this could one of them please remind me the last time they went to a
Final Four. Oh wait. Never mind.
Utah would be ridiculous to rid themselves of Coach K. He is a great coach, and
yes, it has taken longer than expected, but the trajectory for the program is on
the up and up. This class of freshmen are very skilled, and the next class that
has signed is also filled with top level talent. Utah will be a force very soon.
Let's not forget that Utah employed the worst basketball coach to ever
exist in college basketball. Jim Boylen destroyed the basketball program, he
should not be allowed anywhere near the game. Utah is still recovering from the
mistakes Boylen made. Coach K is developing players, and you can see the marked
improvement. Utah is lucky to have Coach K, he easily should get two more years
to prove that the foundation that he has laid will begin to benefit the Utes in
the long run.
Brad I’m not sure while your sole purpose is to bash the Utes as much as
you can in every article you write, and quite often you do it with false
information. Here’s a few Facts. This would be Utah’s 3rd
season missing the tournament not 4th. They Were in position to make
the tourney both seasons they missed, they could of easily been in with 1 more
win, or a less eastern biased selection committee.Only Oregon and
Arizona have more wins in conference and overall in the last 6 years, 5 years, 4
years, or even 3 years. Final Rankings#15 2014-2015#20
2015-2016#36 2017-2018 (No NCAA tourney but this teams could of easily won
a game in the tourney)Has finished tied or higher than the
conference projected finish every year.Let’s not forget either
Larry ranks near the bottom at recruiting in the conference but develops talent.
Seems to me he has Utah in a good place. Firing him would be a mistake he will
get his team to the tourney next season.
PhiloBeddoe takes a shot at Coach K. "Doesn't he lead the league in
cancelled games?" I'd like Phil to answer the following five questions
regarding Coach K's cancellation of the BYU game. Did it work, meaning do
the games since then include better sportsmanship? What did Nick Emery say to
Brandon Taylor? What did Nick Emery say to Coach K? What did Coach Rose do
about it? And what do you think would have happened if any Ute player had seen
Nick's punch live?I am amazed at the grief Krystkowiak still
takes from BYU fans, and the local media. I'm so grateful we have the wise
Brad Rock. He is so brave. Actually, I think he is patronizing, cynical, and
negative, especially when it comes to Coach K.
Feb. 14, 2019 8:30 a.m.Doesn't he lead the league in cancelled
games?---------------Rose leads the nation in forfeited
games, at 46 games.
skywalker - Palo Alto, CAFeb. 13, 2019 11:13 p.m.Utemythology Rose is 4-3 versus 80k, 2 in a row, including another dominating 74-59
win over our little brother, making one of 0’s in Rose’s 92-0 record
when holding teams to 59 or fewer points.Rose has won 20+ games in
13 straight seasons, and counting.80k won’t get to 20+ wins in
2019 for the 3rd time in 8 seasons.-------------------Are we supposed to be impressed? Rose has 3 NCAA R64 wins in 14 years, 80K
has 3 in 8 years.Which isn't great so he has another year to
make the NCAA tournament and 2 years to make at-least another Sweet 16 run,
otherwise he will be on the hot seat.I have no problem with BYU
extending Rose's contract, he's doing a great job I hope he keeps
winning 20+ games in a ONE bid league.
Now is not the time to assess coach K. Few fans seem to understand that this
year is a transition for the program. It looks like the coach assessed the
trajectory and found it not to his liking, so he made a dramatic shift in
recruiting. This year's team is full of potential and the real assessment
will be whether this change in direction builds some positive energy over the
next couple of years. I think everyone needs to step back and watch the
process, then make a decision on how well it's worked.
Coach K has my total support. A class act and a good coach. This team is very
young; the future is bright.Go Utes!
Doesn't he lead the league in cancelled games?
Yes it is time for him to go. He doesn't deserve to be the 8th highest
paid BB coach in the country with his record of on court and off court
disasters. The U has to figure out how to pay him off as long as it comes from
their big time boosters ($$$).
I don’t understand why it’s coach K’s problem that he has a
high salary. Chris Hill is to blame for giving it to him. If my boss offered to
pay me above what was a realistic salary, I wouldn’t tell him no thanks I
am not worth it. Lay-off coach K.
Utemythology “Lucky? He also found Wright, Kuzma, and
Allan.”Unfortunately for U, the 8th highest paid coach
hasn’t been able to find a team.
Utemythology Rose is 4-3 versus 80k, 2 in a row, including another
dominating 74-59 win over our little brother, making one of 0’s in
Rose’s 92-0 record when holding teams to 59 or fewer points.Rose has won 20+ games in 13 straight seasons, and counting.80k
won’t get to 20+ wins in 2019 for the 3rd time in 8 seasons.
I still support Coach Krystkowiak! So short of poaching Mark Few, I hope we
keep him.GO UTES!!!
@Road Runnerutahutesfanatic"Jim Boylen left the Utes
program in shambles. Coach K rebuilt it, and now he is building towards the next
step forward."coach k broke the program completely, then got
lucky in finding Poeltl to help rebuild the program.------Lucky? He also found Wright, Kuzma, and Allan.Then there's 13
years under Rose, 3 NCCA R64 wins all with the Chinese league All Star.
All...ya'll are taking this a bit too seriousl. Its as if salvation depends
on sports. Lighten up. BYU will never get in the big leagues. In any sport.
Much to the delight of ute fans. Take a nerve pill and just enjoy the game as
an escape from all the hate in the world. Besides in ten years all our lives
will be changed by the new green deal. Travel and sports will be out of the
There are at least 7,000 Utah fans who love Coach K.That's
their average attendance
Let’s be honest, coach k’s salary was based on what he was expected
to produce.Does anyone seriously believe that these are the results
that were expected?
Don't blame the coach for the insane salary. That's on the
administration.But he can be blamed for being a sub par coach with sub par
results.He knows how to get a good contract but not know how to run a
successful program, especially with the talent ha has had.With the pac
slipping off into irrelevance salaries will soon change with the next contract,
if he lasts that long.It's sad to lose 15 of 18 to your big brother.
@Spoons:Hey spoon, you kind of don’t get it. You stated:
“Heck of a mess - you realize winning coaches make money for the
university right? If I am a CEO and produce millions of dollars of profit they
would be stupid to cap my pay at 200k”.Here’s the part
you don’t get. If all Universities capped the coaches’ salaries
around 200k a year they will still win games, the fans will still come out to
see the wins. If the ticket prices were lower even more fans would come out.
If the coaches couldn’t make millions I think they would still
coach for hundreds of thousands because if they don’t do what they love,
what will they do – what you and I do?
BYU fan here. I can't believe the Pac 12 sends only one team to the dance.
Has that ever happened before? The WCC will send only one, barring a major
upset in Las Vegas. But the P12? I doubt it.As far as Coach
K's salary, don't get mad at him. Reminds me of David Gardner,
president of the Univ of California in the '80's. At the time, his
salary was $200,000 considered very high. When challenged about it by the
press, Gardner simply said "the Board of Regents offered that amount, and I
accepted." The powers that be at Univ of Utah are the ones who take the
temperature of the market for D1 basketball coaches and they decide what they
think the coach is worth. Don't blame Larry K. The salary is not based on
how many games the team wins under a given coach; rather on what the school
thinks they will. The school is quite often wrong, but that can be owing to
many factors other than the coach's ability.
This is a great, informative editorial. The criticism is not in the job Coach
K has done but the contract he was extended. Can't blame a man for taking
what was offered. I'm happy with job Coach K has not only done on the
court but off it. He runs a clean, respected program.
utahutesfanatic"Jim Boylen left the Utes program in shambles.
Coach K rebuilt it, and now he is building towards the next step
forward."coach k broke the program completely, then got lucky in
finding Poeltl to help rebuild the program.After a brief flash of
success, which ended with a humiliating loss to Gonzaga, Utah fell back into
mediocrity. #110 Utah is ranked lower than #43 Utah State, #84 BYU, and #108
UVU.Utah's current 2nd place standing in the PAC 12 is more of
an indictment on how pathetically bad the PAC 12 is, than a kudo to what coach k
has done to rebuild the program.
Rock, I doubt you are talking to very many Ute fans if you think CoachK(West)
has any problem. He is an excellent coach and a very good man. Go troll
Utah, BYU and all other Utah university results are about what you would expect
in today's BB landscape. Gonzaga is a unicorn and good for them. They
have become a BB blue blood along with Duke, Kansas, NC, Kentucky, etc. Every
year 50-55 NCAA Tourney spots will go to blue bloods and low tier conference
champs. All but Utah, BYU and USU must win their conference championship to get
to the tourney. If not Conference champs, Utah, BYU and USU are fighting with a
lot of teams for those last +/-15 at large bids left. They need a pretty
special year to snag one, since there are nearly 350 DI teams. The only anomaly
is Coach K has a blue blood salary at a non-blue blood BB school, which is on
the AD and administration.
Mark Few of Gonzaga is a bargain at $1.9As a BYU fan, I absolutely
respect the heck out of Gonzaga's program. Hope they win it all this year.
Jim Boylen left the Utes program in shambles. Coach K rebuilt it, and now he is
building towards the next step forward. It would be a mistake to fire him. It
would be just plain stupid and arrogant. I guess my biggest
problem with the Coach K Utes program is watching players like Tillman, struggle
to improve, players like Van Dyke never given a trusted green light to shoot
until his senior year (he was always pulled if he wasn't hitting his shot
early during is first three seasons which left him doubting himself), and
watching the Utes get some poor character guys into the program like Devonte
Hendrix and Devon Daniels. The coaching staff needs to make the players feel
more trusted and they need to be more thorough with character evaluations. I
don't care if guys transfer out because they have ants in their pants, and
unreasonable expectations for playing time. But it seems like we have had a few
too many poor character guys, and I would like to see that disappear; this may
be an unreasonable expectation.Coach K has done an overall good job.
The Utes just need to take some significant steps forward over the next three
years, and I think we will.Go Utes!!!
The coach does a great job recruiting smaller guards and forwards. The big guys
with size and speed are a premium group and are difficult to get. But, solid
recruiting with emphasis on getting the big bodies would put Utah in a better
position to advance into the playoffs. We see other schools in average
conferences picking off the same type of athletes that Utah needs. The problem
could be the fact that coach K isn't willing to take a chance with jocks
that may need more attention in terms of academics and off court problems. I
understand that fact, but it goes with the job if you want to compete at the
"is ranked fourth in the state"Technically, per rankings,
however, we've beaten plenty of teams ranked ahead of us & will
continue to do so....Therefore, short of a head-to-head matchup, we don't
know for certain who'd win against usu/UVU....Case-in-point, usu lost
against ASU on a neutral court & we beat them on their home-court & have
the opportunity to sweep them for the regular season this Saturday....And ASU is
ranked well ahead of us.Go Utes!
"As a BYU fan, I think it is bad enough what they pay Coach Rose given his
team's mediocre performance in recent years and yet his salary is likely a
third of Utah's coach."coogofamess:You're
just guess, so let's find out exactly what is that salary. Maybe the DNews
will do some digging to find out how much BYU-P is paying the guy that leads the
coogs to first round NIT exits and NCAA sanctions, only to extend his
contract.Yeah, we'll be waiting a while for THAT hard-hitting
"As a BYU fan, I am a fan of Larry K. and his 3-4 record against BYU. I hope
he stays for many years to come."Listening to byu-p fans on
these threads, one would think rose is undefeated against our Coach K....One
would also think byu-p were accomplishing something of note
themselves....Case-in-point, when's the last time byu-p won a Tourney
game?Crickets.Fact is, our Coach K is 3-3 against rose
w/at least one of his own recruits on the roster....And that's considering
he literally had to bring us back up from the bottom of all bottoms.Go Utes!p.s. Which program last won merely 1 game in a season?Crickets.
I love Coach K. Great coach and worth every penny. Maybe Rock is hearing
something I'm not... oh wait, he hates everything Utah.
This season is forgivable with young talent. Next year he needs to make the NCAA
Lester L. Wester “Well, you hit all of the jealous BYU talking
points in criticizing Coach K, the Utes, and the Pac-12...”Seriously?The “talking points” are simply a
recognition of reality:The current 2nd place team from the so-called
“conference of champions”, with the 8th highest paid coach in
college basketball, is ranked fourth in the state and has absolutely NO chance
of getting an at-large bid to the NCAA tourney.It is what it is, regardless of how much it hurts to admit.
It’s a tough one. Larry’s record does not justify his salary, but
somehow even after only two NCAA appearances in 8 years I still believe he is
the right person for the job. Underachiever for sure, but with the young group
he has achievements may be on the way.Heck of a mess - you realize
winning coaches make money for the university right? If I am a CEO and produce
millions of dollars of profit they would be stupid to cap my pay at 200k.
While it is mostly about winning, LK does graduate players and the kids
aren’t in trouble with the law. The team has a lot of young talent but
next two years they need to be in the NCAA tournament or time for a change.
I think Coach Krystkowiak's salary is immoral and totally unjustifiable
period! But so is the salary of many other college hoop coaches, not to mention
the insane college football coach salaries. As a BYU fan, I think it is bad
enough what they pay Coach Rose given his team's mediocre performance in
recent years and yet his salary is likely a third of Utah's coach. I really wish Universities across the nation would slash all football
and basketball coaches salaries to under say $200,000 a year (and that is for
the major University programs).Put that extra money to lowering
ticket prices and such so that average people can afford to take their family to
the games. How many people would feel like a king if they were paid even
$200,000 a year?
Well, you hit all of the jealous BYU-P talking points in criticizing Coach K,
the Utes, and the Pac-12. I'm a patient man and still believe things will
turn around. And if you'd take the time to look, outside of Gonzaga, no
team is lighting it up out west.
As a BYU fan, I am a fan of Larry K. and his 3-4 record against BYU. I hope he
stays for many years to come.