Natalie Gochnour: Utah’s coal transition belongs to all of us

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  • Flipphone , 00
    Feb. 10, 2019 9:25 a.m.

    Price is over 90 miles from Moab/Arches. and other than 20 miles of I-70 you must travel on mostly 2 lane highways.

    The Sad part is that people have destroyed the Moab area. and further destruction will accrue thanks to introducing the public to bears ears.

  • skeptic Phoenix, AZ
    Feb. 8, 2019 9:18 a.m.

    Sad, but the times are changing. The USA the same as other large land mass nations population are out migrating from the rural country to the urban cities for good reasons of covienence, economics, politics, social and other urban advantages. Look at any night time satellite map photo of the USA and it shows the nations population clustered in just a fewer distinct geographic areas. And the cluster of concentration is accelerating each new generation. It is simple economics: there is no demand for rural populations. Can the Federal government or the State governments create an artificial demand; probably not.

  • Flipphone , 00
    Feb. 7, 2019 2:18 p.m.

    People have destroyed Moab. Moab is a good example of what happens when the area becomes a National park or monument.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 7, 2019 2:18 p.m.

    I always thought Price was a diamond in the rough. You have millions of tourist passing thru. They'd stop if there were reasons to do it. Great mountain biking, railroad, put some brew pubs, restaurants, concerts, events, etc. Coal is never coming back no matter what Trump and some of his sycophants believe.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 7, 2019 1:46 p.m.

    Stevo123
    No war on Coal? BO lied? Sure there is. Artificial factors have made those alternatives more economical.

    Marxist
    You must be able to spit pretty far to say they are in spitting distance – they are all at least 2 hours from Price.

    Hutterite
    Yep, BO is to blame. Ever hear of inertia and momentum? He put in place the demise of coal.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    Feb. 7, 2019 1:34 p.m.

    Not a fan of NASA or by Government funded science. I think that I should think for myself, even if they say the thinking has been done.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2019 11:01 a.m.

    @What in Tucket
    "Sun activity is very low. "

    Yes, we are in our weakest solar cycle in almost a century. And despite that NASA finds that 2018 was the 4th warmest year in the modern record (behind 2016, 2017 and 2015... 2014 was 5th place).

    "We saw that a couple dozen died from the Polar Vortex. Cold kills. Personally I would refer some warming. Sorry to say it does not look like CO2 has much of any affect on temperature."

    The UAH satellite dataset (they're typically the first to report their global values from the previous month) finds January 2019 to be 0.37C above the 1981-2010 average for the lower troposphere, a larger positive anomaly than any month in 2018 (which for the record was 6th warmest in the UAH lower troposphere dataset, there tends to be a bit of difference between these and others like NASA/NOAA since it's covering a deeper layer of the lower atmosphere than just near-surface).

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Feb. 7, 2019 10:18 a.m.

    "Blame BO and his war on coal for the economic demise in these counties, counties that have traditionally been democratic."

    No. Sorry, but that horse died. President Obama is history, and his policies being wiped out wholesale. This is trump country now, and he's nothing if not big coal. If you feel the need to hand out blame, maybe it's time to wonder if he's either ineffective or lying about there being some future in coal. Or both.

  • Lagomorph Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2019 10:16 a.m.

    Utah is littered with the remains of single commodity economies. They are called ghost towns. Ever been to Gold Hill, Frisco, Silver City, Temple City, Sego, or Ticaboo? Carbon County has its own share of faded resource-dependent communities (Standardville, National, Storrs,, etc.), though their demise is more a result of automobiles making longer commutes feasible (miners could live in Price instead of in company towns).

    Price has a lot of open space, an existing rail connection, good road access to the interstate highway system, and a skilled workforce that knows how to run trucks and machinery. It is not in a topographic basin prone to atmospheric thermal inversions that trap air pollution. It is not in a critical migratory flyway for waterfowl and shorebirds. How about if the legislature moved its pet project, the inland port, to a place where it could benefit a needy population and not threaten our health and environment?

  • Flipphone , 00
    Feb. 7, 2019 9:56 a.m.

    A freeway connecting I-15 from Spanish fork to I-70 in Green River, going thru Price would help Price diversify its economy.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Feb. 7, 2019 9:45 a.m.

    "Finally, the region needs significant investment in job training, housing revitalization, and tourism infrastructure. Investment will create opportunity, prevent poverty, relieve growth pressures along the Wasatch Front and help address crowding issues in Utah’s “Mighty Five” national parks."

    Sounds like the polar opposite of being a conservative.

    [Conservatism. ... As a general ideology, Conservatism is opposed to the ideals of Liberalism and Socialism. Conservatism generally refers to right-wing politics which advocate the preservation of personal wealth and private ownership (Capitalism) and emphasize self-reliance and Individualism.]

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2019 9:46 a.m.

    @lost in DC "Become another Moab? There is no Arches Natl Park, Canyonlands Natl Park, or Dead Horse Point State park near Price."

    These locations are in spitting distance to Price. AND the country SE of Price is spectacular. I've been there, and it needs park protection! Time's a wasting.

  • stevo123 Driggs, ID
    Feb. 7, 2019 9:45 a.m.

    @ Lost in DC, There is no war on coal, it is being pushed aside by Natural Gas and other market forces.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 7, 2019 9:24 a.m.

    The state is trying to expand export markets for coal – it is trying to help the area. And as mentioned, the governor has programs in place.

    Blame BO and his war on coal for the economic demise in these counties, counties that have traditionally been democratic.

    Marxist
    Liberals are trying to stop us from exporting our coal, be it for coking or otherwise. Talk some sense into your liberal brethren.

    Become another Moab? There is no Arches Natl Park, Canyonlands Natl Park, or Dead Horse Point State park near Price. But I guess there is the Cleveland Dinosaur Quarry.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 7, 2019 9:11 a.m.

    @What in Tucket "Sorry to say it does not look like CO2 has much of any affect on temperature."

    I know it is pointless, but go to climate dot gov.

    As for Carbon County, appreciate it has excellent reserves of COKING coal. This should be reopened. If Messabi iron ore can be exported to China, Carbon County's coking coal could be also. Better still, try to reopen primary steel manufacturing somewhere in the west to use Carbon's COKING coal.

    Also, Price needs to try becoming another Moab!

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Feb. 7, 2019 8:30 a.m.

    I lived in NC for 20 years. Parts of that state have been equally hit hard by global economics. NC was primarily an agricultural state, with of course Tobacco and Cotton being leading products. On top of that, NC is the leading state in the nation for timber production - I know - who knew! As a byproduct of that, it was also the leading furniture producing location in the world.

    Times have changed dramatically. Charlotte is now one of three banking hubs in the nation. Pharma has taken over Research Triangle Park. Honda builds its small jet in NC. And many of the data centers for the east coast are located in the region now. This has all left rural NC struggling, with most small towns shrinking while urban growth explodes.

    It has been a painful period for the state. But the state has spent vast amounts of money on community colleges for retraining, and adding universities into rural markets. This is slowly turning the tide, with high tech and pharma manufacturing starting to grow. Utah, with its access to cheap energy and renewables should invest in the communities, creating economic zones based off of access to education - and encourage new manufacturing.

  • What in Tucket Provo, UT
    Feb. 7, 2019 8:18 a.m.

    NASA announced we are in for perhaps an 11 year cooling period. Sun activity is very low. Coal is the cheapest way to get energy and heat. We made need that coal. We saw that a couple dozen died from the Polar Vortex. Cold kills. Personally I would refer some warming. Sorry to say it does not look like CO2 has much of any affect on temperature.