Jon Huntsman Jr.: This is Russia's last chance to save our nuclear treaty

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  • Back Talk Federal Way, WA
    Feb. 9, 2019 10:10 p.m.

    What makes people think that Russia would abide by a new Treaty? Ridiculous.

    Lets simply deal with Russia (and also China, North Korea and Iran) with one thing in mind. They cannot be trusted. The International community should be together on this front and work together against those countries.

    The US will now need to develop and whole new class of nuclear weapons and possibly space weapons to compete with China and Russia. After that, we will see what happens.

    Certainly shows how bad Obama was with confronting Russia. He and Hillary were too busy colluding with them on Uranium One and some wild idea about resetting our relationship. Resetting it to what?

  • zipadeedoodah Lehi, UT
    Feb. 5, 2019 4:10 p.m.

    A lot of trash talk comments here directed towards Trump. But look, we would not likely be talking about this mess if the administration under Obama was not so soft on Russia and its allies.

    Weakness gives foes the opportunity to tramp over treaties and countries just as this one. Reagan was tough... through military strength and bold talk. That is what removed this horrible worldwide threat... which lasted a long time but plunged downhill during Obama/H Clinton's administration.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Feb. 5, 2019 2:44 p.m.

    Nichol - 50 years ago we landed a man on the moon. We had plenty of technology back then to deliver a nuclear warhead to a city in the then Soviet Union with enough precision for it to do its job.

    As to whether mr. Trump was trying to get a hotel in Moscow, I'm not sure that is even under debate yet. The MoW and SoU have been found, architectural renderings and all. So he wanted one, and was working on one. And I'm not sure that in of itself was anything illegal - not sure anyone is saying it was.

    The question is was their quid pro quo going on. If not directly with Trump himself, who else then.

    What we do know is we no longer have a ratified NAFTA, we withdrew from the Asian marketplace, we are threatening to withdraw from NATO, we no longer have a nuclear deal with Iran, we've cancelled joint South Korea trainings, and we no longer have any agreement with Russia on nuclear weapons. We are leaving Syria to Iran and Russia, we are leaving Afghanistan, and the use of the base that Trump claims we can use to "keep an eye on Iran", Iraq has said they do not agree with that.

    And Trump has left open sending troops to Venezuela. I still feel safe, just not as much.

  • Nichol Draper West Jordan, UT
    Feb. 5, 2019 7:09 a.m.

    As we watch missile launches from SpaceX, Blue Origin, SLA and the Russians within days of each other are we really ignorant enough to believe that collectively we don't have the capabilities to deliver missiles to each other's cities? Fifty years ago that was a difficult engineering feat. Now even teenagers carry a computer in their pockets capable of guiding a missile to any city on earth. Dooms dayers will say this is the end. For anyone with faith in humanity, this is a wonderful time to be alive. The Russians are no more of a threat than our youngest Representative in the House. And if Trump is found guilty of secretly trying to get his name on a hotel in Russia, well I will just buy all my Democratic friends lunch.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Feb. 5, 2019 6:53 a.m.

    You aren't serious, are you, Mr. Huntsman? The Russians want out of the treaty, and I believe it is coordinated between Trump and Putin.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Feb. 5, 2019 5:28 a.m.

    These are the same people whom our President looked in the eye and believed when they said they did not try to interfere in our election - over the counsel of our own intelligence agencies.

    Now President Trump's administration believes that the Russians are attempting to subvert US security. I wonder if he will also acknowledge they tried to influence the last election. Doing so doesn't not mean there was collusion - but it would mean they tried.

  • Golden Rules Okay, OK
    Feb. 4, 2019 10:27 p.m.

    2bits,
    "Why is it only illegal for Trump to talk to or do business with people from Russia?"
    You are right that others can do business in Russia without it being a problem. Trump could too as long as he wasn't President.

    Hospitals will fire their doctors if they accept gifts or free trips from Pharmaceutical Companies. Not that trips or free lunch is wrong - doctors can accept those things from friends and family. However, it's important to make sure that doctors are making decisions with only the best interest of their patient in mind, and not influenced by the need to repay or earn future favors. And pharmaceutical companies could offer those things to other people outside the medical community - but for some strange reason they don't.

    That's the same reason the President should not be accepting money from business deals from Putin or other country's leaders. If he has received or is hoping to receive a large sum from Putin, Trump might do things that he otherwise would have no inclination or interest in doing. Some examples would be things like suggesting Russia be included in the G7 or maybe suggesting that NATO be dissolved.

  • one old man MSC, UT
    Feb. 4, 2019 6:57 p.m.

    And may I add : Thank goodness there are people like Jon Huntsman in the world.

    We need them more than ever today. Too bad there aren't many more of them.

    He's a Republican I could actually vote for . . . . just as I did when he ran for governor of Utah.

  • one old man MSC, UT
    Feb. 4, 2019 6:50 p.m.

    Huntsman is in an absolutely impossible spot.

    Trying to be a voice of reason between two men like Putin and trump is something that is beyond any plausible level of reality.

  • beafricanordie Layton, UT
    Feb. 4, 2019 4:55 p.m.

    Great article and brought alot of things to some understanding. However, without good leadership in our part, they will not do that, they wont sit down with someone they dont respect or they bought and installed in the white house. They seek to gather lost USSR satelites. Feel threatened and boxed in when infact is their greed and need to dictate to their neighbors how life ought to be lived or traded is what got them there.

    I believe with your charisma and most importantly, wit and diplomacy since the 80's and guided by light and truth--we can secure further years and safety from mushroom clouds and plutonium rain. These are facts. Less of you, we are at the lions den, those are also facts and not alternative facts.

    Do 350million people a favor Sir and please.

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 4, 2019 4:37 p.m.

    2bits has resurfaced a facet that undoubtedly played a part in Russia's decision to forge ahead in developing this system; that reason is China. Russia is not dumb enough to let the Chinese get an advantage, even if the US decided under previous administrations to turn a blind eye towards the Chinese missile development program. What is needed is a three-way agreement. However, the US is behind the other two in this area, so is in a bad negotiating position. We have to catch up; then go for a new 3-party INF agreement.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 4, 2019 3:44 p.m.

    Huntsman Chemical did business in Russia (and China). Now Huntsman has been America's ambassador to China (appointed by President Obama, not Pres Trump). And today he's our Ambassador to Russia.

    Being ambassador requires dealing with, meeting with, and talking with people there? That's what our Ambassador to Russia, and our Sec of State, and our President do every day (meeting with and talk with people from around the world, at the G8, at NATO meetings, at UN Meetings, at state meetings in Washington or their capitol). Why is Huntsman not in jail?

    Why is it only illegal for Trump to talk to or do business with people from Russia?

    Answer... TDS

    It's not illegal to do business in Russia. Even to build concrete plants, chemical plants, or hotels. The pretense that doing business in Russia makes you a bad person, or is a crime punishable by impeachment... is a crock of malarkey.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Feb. 4, 2019 3:30 p.m.

    I'm sure Trump and Putin will go into a closed room, with no other negotiators or note takers and be able to work this thing out. I wonder if some day we'll learn of the leverage that Putin has on our President.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Feb. 4, 2019 3:04 p.m.

    The INF was a good treaty when it was signed. But this is almost 50 years later. Times change. Russia has broken the agreement many times and is breaking it today, and China is deploying these missile systems around the world with no repercussions. It's probably time to re-visit the treaty. It was probably time long ago.

    We need to bring China and others into that agreement, and sign a new INF treaty.

    Maybe this will bring Russia back into compliance. But we need to give them a way out.

    They can't back down now. That would make them look weak (in an age where backing down on anything is seen as weakness). End the agreement. Then they can join the new one, and destroy their violating systems, and they look like the good guys.

    Probably won't happen. But for sure they weren't going to admit that they have been breaking the agreement all along and agree to destroy these systems they have spent billions on.

  • Holy-Schamoly-What Baloney Kaysville, UT
    Feb. 4, 2019 2:07 p.m.

    If any lesson from history should have been important for the USA to learn from, it was the Cuban Missile Crisis of the early 1960's, where Nikita Khrushchev showed the Soviet Union couldn't be trusted. In the late 1980's we had the INF treaty and I spoke with a gentleman who interacted with the Russians directly and told him I didn't think the Russians could be trusted as they were not honest. As I recall, I said "I think they're a bunch of liars" to which he replied "You got that right!" So my question is, where was Obama during his terms in office when all this cheating was being observed? From how he looked the other way at the Ukrainian land grab by Russia and prior to being elected how he apologized around the world, especially in Europe, about past actions of the USA I can see how Putin would think he can do whatever he wants, whenever he wants. Mitt Romney said Russia was the enemy but the Dems and liberal press mocked him about that. Now the truth is wider known and what are they doing? Poking fun at the current President, refusing to work together to secure our borders because they don't want a 'wall,' and are ignoring our national security everywhere. Treason!

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 4, 2019 2:04 p.m.

    It's been known for a decade that Russia has not abided by the treaty on mid-range missiles. The treaty was a charade and Pres. Obama acknowledged that fact. Saying that the US has withdrawn ignores the reality that there is no effective treaty from which to withdraw.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 4, 2019 2:05 p.m.

    It's been known for a decade that Russia has not abided by the treaty on mid-range missiles. The treaty was a charade and Pres. Obama acknowledged that fact. Saying that the US has withdrawn ignores the reality that there is no effective treaty from which to withdraw.

  • HSTucker Salt Lake City, UT
    Feb. 4, 2019 1:52 p.m.

    Yes, Governor Huntsman might just make a good President, perhaps in 2032, after 8 years of President Pence.

    Inspired by the reference in the article to "RBC," I found a fascinating interview of Ambassador Huntsman from March 2018. Google "Ambassador Huntsman Interview with RBC TV" to find it. Readers may be very interested in the answer to the question "What is it like to work with Donald Trump?" Huntsman was absolutely right.

  • The_Laird Patchogue, NY
    Feb. 4, 2019 1:15 p.m.

    Huntsman has the knowledge, experience and temperament to make a good President.