Those who blame the president have their head in the sand.
I too blame Trump for the shutdown, so what? .......More importantly I blame
Democrats 100% for not keeping us safe!
@anonymous100"Obama, Hillary (when she was a senator) and Schumer all
said that a wall was needed and voted funding for it 10 or so years ago."Here is what I know. In 2006, the number of illegals attempting to
enter the country per year was more than 1 million. The number of illegals
actually in the US grew year over year for multiple decades.Obama,
Hillary and Schumer all supported a 700 mile wall because the data supported a
700 mile wall.The data no longer supports building a wall. It
simply doesn't.The number of illegals attempting to enter the
country has dropped by 80%. The number of illegals actually in the country is
less than it was in 2007, and has not grown in more than a decade.A
wall was necessary then. Congress supported it because the data supported
it.A wall is not needed now.Spend the money deporting
the 11 million already here. Enforce current laws. Hire more judges, lawyers
and border patrol to deal with the current backlog. Go after employers who hire
The commentators are wrong as well. The legislators butting heads against the
presidents dream to make america great again gives the American people the right
to be ruled and governed as the Constitution gives us. The legislators are doing
this government shut-down to get back at Trump to fight and destroy the American
people prevent from freedom and independence and make our own choices. The
democrats are fighting the American people rights and liberties. The democrats
hate the american dream and all that it stands for but they have been in control
with illegal powers with political forces preventing us from having our freedoms
and liberties. Democrats and Republican party's controlled us by fear and
discrimination and socialistic laws. Incremental little bits of pittances
handouts to prove they were in control to steal our liberties and rights and
choices.Trump has destroyed this powerful conglomerate of government
foreign agents and spy's trying to take our country from us so support
Trump, believe in America not minorities grievances or hate. America united is
America strong and legislators are fearing their loss of power over our lives
and money and rights.
Let's not forget that President Trump Promised that Mexico would pay for
the Wall.He lied.He was ready to sign the bill the
Senate passed to keep the Government a float.Then a couple of
Commentators on Fox News were critical of the President that he was not keeping
his campaign promise.He then said on National TV that he would be
responsible for shutting down the Government and he would not blame the
Democrats.He lied.The Wall has estimates as high as 70
Billion. But the President "only" wants 5 Billion.What could
be done with 5 Billion dollars?Many things could be Fixed, the Water
problems in Flint comes to mind, helping Puerto Rico recover etc.The
Wall will not even slow down the flow of Drugs coming into this Country.Illegal Imagration is at it's lowest point in years.Then why the Wall?Speaker Pelosi is standing up to the President,
this could be the first time in his life that somebody told him NO.Sen McConnell could hold a vote on the House bill, and it is projected that it
would be veto proof, and it would open the Government.So Mr Trump
this shut down is on you, and letting it continue is on Sen McConnell.
I voted for Trump because after all of these years I wanted to see the Border
safe and that those coming across illegal would be sent back and come into the
United States the same way as my Grandfather came into this country. The right
way. My husband and I use to live near San Diego several years ago. It was
frightening to drive at night on the Freeway as we got closer to home. The
reason was we had to be careful and not hit an illegal crossing the freeway
trying to get into this country without getting caught. Many years we have been
hearing from other Presidents that they wanted to fix things at the Border well
none of them did. Then President Trump is elected and he is trying so hard to
make this country safer yet those who can not stand him and want to see him fail
do not care about our Country being safer. They just care about Trump failing.
To me this is totally wrong. Here is a man trying to do what he promised yet
because he is not a normal politician and yes he drives me nuts with some of the
things that he does. But to me he is the first President that I can ever
remember who has kept a lot of the promises that he made when he was running.
Anonymous100 - Anywhere, UT"Trump is willing to negotiate, the
Democrats have not been. Time for the Democrats to come to the bargaining table
so the government can be reopened. It cannot be their way or no way all the
time, nor should it be."Talk about highly speculative and
uninformed...Trump is the one that walked out and refused to "talk." It
was his way or the highway.Obama10 - SYRACUSE, UTWe all know
that Pelosi and Schummer are just playing politicts and don't want to give
him the win on a campaign promise. They are more interested in 2020 and having
an issue. God Bless President Trump.Speculative and
off-topic-disruptive.How do you know what anyone has planned for
2020. Trump is the only one that has said he will run again, but there's
that pesky investigation and evidence about him...Trump's
campaign promise as you called it was for the people with little if any critical
thinking skills. You've heard about the tunnels, the majority coming in by
@1covey" the Democratic - controlled House has yet to pass an
appropriations bill. "That's false. They've sent one
to the Senate where McConnell has done nothing because he doesn't want to
make Trump have to veto it.
Here is what I know: Obama, Hillary (when she was a senator) and
Schumer all said that a wall was needed and voted funding for it 10 or so years
ago. Now Schumer, Hillary and Pelosi are against it. Were they lying then or
now?The Border Patrol, those on the front lines, says there is a
need for a wall.Any reasonable person can plainly see that we need
better border security on our southern border.This issue has been
talked about for decades, but no one has done anything about it, until now.
Trump is willing to negotiate, the Democrats have not been. Time for the
Democrats to come to the bargaining table so the government can be reopened. It
cannot be their way or no way all the time, nor should it be.
The day Pelosi chooses to protect US citizens over illegal immigrants and gang
cartel criminals the government shutdown will end. Of corse if she can convince
President Trump to abandon US citizens it will end as well.
No job is safe and secure. Always have an emergency plan!If a wall
saves one life, prevents one youngster from being kidnapped and sold into
slavery, or keeps one person from drug addiction,--than its well worth the few
jobs which were temporarily lost.
trump told Americans he would accept responsibility for the shutdown.trump campaigned endlessly on the premise that Mexico would pay for his
wall.Yet Republicans blame members of the Democratic Party for the
shutdown as well as refusing to pay for trumps wall.Cognitive
dissonance on parade.
@Obama 10 wrote,"Pelosi and Schummer are just playing politicts
[sic] and don't want to give him the win on a campaign promise. "I am a bleeding heart liberal. And I would LOVE to get Trump to
fulfill his campaign promise. It was "to have a 30'
concrete wall"And to "make Mexico pay for it".
I blame:1. Voters that voted in democratic house.2. Former
republican house that didn’t pass the budget last year.
They didn't poll me. But, my views?The blame is equal on every
single person in the United States House of Representatives (where budget bills
are constitutionally required to originate); the United States Senate (that must
concur with the budget bills); and the United States President (which must sign
into law the budget bills).Considering no one is willing to be an
adult in the room and actually negotiate and set down a proper budget for
spending; the blame lies with every single person there. Our government has
failed! And I blame them all!
@UtahBruinEveryone has committed to additional border security,
including Democrats in the House. Dem/House proposals include ample money for
border security, and agreements were made. Trump back-pedaled in a temper
tantrum and has again demanded an enormously expensive symbol - a wall.
Democrats and plenty of Rebublicans, too, are only saying that Trump’s
wall is a foolish way to enhance border security.
1covey, UtahBruin - Amen!
Trump loves to put his name on things. He announced, on live TV, that this is
"His Shutdown". One, he's "proud to own". Case closed.
Utah's opinion on blame for the shutdown (per the Dan Jones poll) is in
distinct contrast with nationwide assessment of blame (the Dan Jones numbers
aren't surprising, given Utah's red state leanings). From a variety
of polls, 50-55% blame Trump vs. 29-34% who blame congressional Democrats.Marist/PBS NewsHour Poll: 54% blame Trump; 31% blame congressional
DemocratsReuters/Ipsos Poll: 51% blame Trump; 34% blame congressional
DemocratsCNN Poll: 55% blame Trump; 32% blame congressional DemocratsWaPo/ABC News Poll: 53% blame Trump; 29% blame congressional DemocratsInterestingly, all of the polls show blame of the congressional
Republicans for the shutdown at around 5-6%, which is surprising to me,
considering Mitch McConnell's role in this.
While President Trump threatens to not sign/veto a bill not containing provision
for southern border security including, among other things, walls in strategic
locations, the Democratic - controlled House has yet to pass an appropriations
bill. Trump has not had the chance to carry out his threat. That means the House
is not moving forward on their responsibility. Right now, they have the ball.
It's their play; but refuse to play. Talk is not playing.
I give "credit" to President Trump for finally standing up and taking a
stand and holding his ground. Many Presidents and Politicians before him have
promised to increase border security yet he is the only President who will stand
his ground and not cower when times get tough. This is the issue that got him
elected and he will follow through. We all know that Pelosi and Schummer are
just playing politicts and don't want to give him the win on a campaign
promise. They are more interested in 2020 and having an issue. The money is
miniscule in the percentage of the total federal budget and both Pelosi and
Schummer have voted for more money and a wall in the past. President Obama and
Clinton both stated they would end illegal immigration but only one President
has the backbone. God Bless President Trump.
Generally when a red state poll points blame tilted towards Trump... that's
a sign that maybe people believed him in that meeting with Pelosi and Schumer
when he said he'd shut it down.Also, the average non-partisan
person paying attention would attribute blame for a shutdown to whoever is
refusing to pass/sign a continuing resolution, which in this shutdown is
There is none of the 'both sides' equivalency to be made here.
It's the trump shutdown. The one he is proud to own (roll the tape...). If
you want to throw someone else under the bus, where's Mitch McConnell? He
should be appearing on the side of milk cartons by now.
Seems like McConnell should be one who is also responsible as he refuses to do
anything on legislation that the President won't approve.
Trump said he "was proud to own this shutdown" right before he blamed
others.Mitch won't allow a vote.The Dem's made
a deal, then Trump reneged after his peers on the radio made fun of him, like
adults do?The GOP also had 2 years to do something but chose instead
to give tax breaks to the wealthy (including Donald) and corporations. Then
suddenly weeks before the election it became a crisis, then no crisis, now a
crisis again.Nope this is on the GOP and their inability to govern,
tax breaks and spending increases seem to be the only things they can do.
I am afraid that this poll confirm the suspicion that I have had for years:
Many Utahns are not very well informed or choose to deny certain facts.1.
President Trump is using extortion to get his wall. 2. Nancy Pelosi is
the mature mother trying to teach her son that she doesn't accept
ultimatums from an immature child.3. Before the Shutdown Republicans and
Democrats have reached an agreement with Mr. Trump. He changed his mind when
some Radio personalities from the right criticized him.4. If Republicans
and Democrats pass the pre- shutdown agreement. It would be a "veto
proof" majority.5. Republicans in Congress don't want to
antagonize Mr. Trump.If my facts are correct, they would indicate
that:First Place Blame should go to President Trump for attempting to
bully his way in Congress.Second Place Blame should go to the Republicans
that can pass a bill with the help Democrats but the GOP leadership doesn't
dare to oppose Mr. Trump.
I blame all politicians for all the trouble in our country, both left and Right.
But I don't blame Trump for standing his ground on the security of out
country. That is truly what the wall is, it is not a wall. It is the security
of our country. And before anyone wants to spout off about how his stats are
wrong. Maybe they are. But the stats given by the Border Patrol Agent of over
100+ people captured from other countries, other than South American countries
is 100% fact. Along with his numbers of how many drug traffickers they stopped.
Don't care if the majority somehow gets through check points/legal points
of entry. They are stopping what is trying other means as well. The left
can't argue it. It's fact, and the wall should be funded. So I blame
the left on this one. 100%
These polls crack me up. How can they make such bold statements.Don't
know anybody that has every been contacted by one of these "polls".Both Reps and dems are to blame equally.