Already several lawsuits have been filed to force the government to pay
furloughed workers. Although all deserve to get paid, some of the workers with
the best chance of getting paid are folks from the IRS Service Center in Ogden
Utah.'The US Court of Claims previously ruled that the Fair
Labor Standards Act (FLSA) applies to federal workers but the federal government
gets some leeway on damages when it comes to workers recalled because they are
essential or have public safety duties. That doesn't affect IRS service
center workers, however, and that is a good thing.Under the FLSA,
workers can get double back pay. The deferred pay checks they ultimately receive
will serve as a credit but their pay can be doubled. Info on the lawsuit can be
found on our Mahany & Ertl law firm website.We hope other law
firms and unions take up the cause for families affected by the shutdown.
@TlingitIt'd be irresponsible to let Trump shutting down the
government like this result in him getting his demands. It'd just mean a
repetition of this in the future on the basis of "well he got wall funding
didn't he?". That's why the GOP has to be the side that caves on
this, just like the Democrats had to be the side that caved a year ago when they
shut down the government to try and reinstate DACA (and they did after just a
couple days). If taking federal workers hostage becomes a successful approach to
block continuing resolutions to get your demands, then it'll happen more
It's interesting how some commentators are placing as much blame on the
Congress as they are on the President for this mess. But the Congress did not
shut down the government; the President did that all on his own, and he also
agreed to own it. Let him. For those who believe the Congress is responsible,
I have just one question: Have we really reached the point in this country
where the President of the United States is permitted to shut down the
government whenever he disagrees with funding choices? Those funding choices
are in the exclusive control of the Congress, NOT the president. It may seem
extreme to say it, but in my view, unless the House of Representatives is ready
to impeach this President, we're on the short road to ruin.
Donald Trump doesn't care who has to suffer so that he can claim he came
through on his campaign promise. That's really what the shutdown is all
about--Donald Trump's big ego.However, even if Trump gets
funding from Congress to build the wall, it still won't be consistent with
Trump's campaign promise--whereas he promised that he would force Mexico to
pay for building the wall. Of course, if anyone points that out to President
Trump and his supporters, they will just claim that such claims are "fake
news," and that Trump didn't actually make those statements (so
obviously, someone must have made fake videos of Donald Trump making those
statements during his campaign rallies).I have a proposal for a
compromise on the shutdown: Rather than make all the federal workers suffer
(and all U.S. citizens who are in need of federal government services suffer) by
extending the government shutdown, why doesn't Donald Trump just claim that
he has already built the wall, that Mexico has paid for it, and therefore, that
he has already fulfilled his campaign promise--and that anyone who says
otherwise is lying and stating "fake news." We could all pretend it was
true, and save $5.7 bil.
If, as so many conservatives in these forums have argued these federal workers
are drones who do nothing but drain our tax dollars, why is Trump calling them
back to work?
It is insane people have to go to work, especially to a stressful job, without
getting a paycheck. Even if they know they are eventually going to get paid they
have to survive financially in the meantime. I want a refund as much
as the next person but not at the expense of people going to work and not
getting paid so I can have it. How can you feel good about this? Some of our
political leaders in Washington are currently without conscience. Ego and being
right are all they are concerned about.
Trump was responsible for the shutdown. He said that. McConnell was there to
back him which makes him responsible too. Nancy Pelosi is like Trump and
McConnell in that she is a major power tripper. She is all about power and
control. She is vindictive even with people in her own party that do not bow to
her and support her 100% . In this sense, she is just like Trump only different
party. Schumer is not much better than Pelosi. This is no longer
about what is good for the American people and the American economy or national
security. This is about the ego and power needs of leadership in Washington.
Voters need to remember these people when 2020 elections roll around. If people
aren't willing to put country over party and aren't willing to reach
across the aisle and work together in behalf of our country, economic stability,
and national security they should not be in Washington. Ever.
Trump just needs to cave and reopen without the wall.
Each side can blame the other. But who does this ultimately come down to? The president needs to buck up and do the right thing here. No, not build a
wall. Put Americans back to work.
According to a recent poll by Pew Research:• 88% of Democrats
would rather extend the shutdown indefinitely than give in to President
Trump's demands.• 72% of Republicans would rather extend
the shutdown indefinitely than give in to the Democrats.In my view,
100% of these people have let a political party do their thinking for them for
far too long.*No* ethical and intelligent person thinks the
institutionalized harm of innocent families is an acceptable bargaining chip, no
matter how high the stakes.Denying pay to innocent Americans is a
line no GOVERNMENT should ever cross.I get that people *really* want
their way, but they simply need to find another way to get it. People are not
pawns.I've noticed that these partisans haven't contacted
their own employers to insist that they go without pay as part of the protest to
support their political stance.I'm hopeful that The End
Government Shutdowns Act (S. 104) sponsored by Rob Portman, (R-Ohio), will get
some press attention, some citizen support, and become the law of the land. People can still fight over a wall as passionately as they want, they
should just be a decent human being in the process.
It's past time for Congress, you know, to actually "do something"!
There, I said it and I feel much better.