Some Utah IRS workers called back; courts postponing cases as shutdown continues

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  • Brian Mahany Bandera, TX
    Jan. 25, 2019 7:06 a.m.

    Already several lawsuits have been filed to force the government to pay furloughed workers. Although all deserve to get paid, some of the workers with the best chance of getting paid are folks from the IRS Service Center in Ogden Utah.'

    The US Court of Claims previously ruled that the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) applies to federal workers but the federal government gets some leeway on damages when it comes to workers recalled because they are essential or have public safety duties. That doesn't affect IRS service center workers, however, and that is a good thing.

    Under the FLSA, workers can get double back pay. The deferred pay checks they ultimately receive will serve as a credit but their pay can be doubled. Info on the lawsuit can be found on our Mahany & Ertl law firm website.

    We hope other law firms and unions take up the cause for families affected by the shutdown.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2019 7:10 a.m.

    It'd be irresponsible to let Trump shutting down the government like this result in him getting his demands. It'd just mean a repetition of this in the future on the basis of "well he got wall funding didn't he?". That's why the GOP has to be the side that caves on this, just like the Democrats had to be the side that caved a year ago when they shut down the government to try and reinstate DACA (and they did after just a couple days). If taking federal workers hostage becomes a successful approach to block continuing resolutions to get your demands, then it'll happen more often.

  • Thomas Thompson Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2019 5:16 a.m.

    It's interesting how some commentators are placing as much blame on the Congress as they are on the President for this mess. But the Congress did not shut down the government; the President did that all on his own, and he also agreed to own it. Let him. For those who believe the Congress is responsible, I have just one question: Have we really reached the point in this country where the President of the United States is permitted to shut down the government whenever he disagrees with funding choices? Those funding choices are in the exclusive control of the Congress, NOT the president. It may seem extreme to say it, but in my view, unless the House of Representatives is ready to impeach this President, we're on the short road to ruin.

  • Farmington Fan Farmington, UT
    Jan. 17, 2019 12:08 a.m.

    Donald Trump doesn't care who has to suffer so that he can claim he came through on his campaign promise. That's really what the shutdown is all about--Donald Trump's big ego.

    However, even if Trump gets funding from Congress to build the wall, it still won't be consistent with Trump's campaign promise--whereas he promised that he would force Mexico to pay for building the wall. Of course, if anyone points that out to President Trump and his supporters, they will just claim that such claims are "fake news," and that Trump didn't actually make those statements (so obviously, someone must have made fake videos of Donald Trump making those statements during his campaign rallies).

    I have a proposal for a compromise on the shutdown: Rather than make all the federal workers suffer (and all U.S. citizens who are in need of federal government services suffer) by extending the government shutdown, why doesn't Donald Trump just claim that he has already built the wall, that Mexico has paid for it, and therefore, that he has already fulfilled his campaign promise--and that anyone who says otherwise is lying and stating "fake news." We could all pretend it was true, and save $5.7 bil.

  • SAS Sandy, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:15 p.m.

    If, as so many conservatives in these forums have argued these federal workers are drones who do nothing but drain our tax dollars, why is Trump calling them back to work?

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 8:53 p.m.

    It is insane people have to go to work, especially to a stressful job, without getting a paycheck. Even if they know they are eventually going to get paid they have to survive financially in the meantime.

    I want a refund as much as the next person but not at the expense of people going to work and not getting paid so I can have it. How can you feel good about this? Some of our political leaders in Washington are currently without conscience. Ego and being right are all they are concerned about.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 8:28 p.m.

    Trump was responsible for the shutdown. He said that. McConnell was there to back him which makes him responsible too. Nancy Pelosi is like Trump and McConnell in that she is a major power tripper. She is all about power and control. She is vindictive even with people in her own party that do not bow to her and support her 100% . In this sense, she is just like Trump only different party. Schumer is not much better than Pelosi.

    This is no longer about what is good for the American people and the American economy or national security. This is about the ego and power needs of leadership in Washington. Voters need to remember these people when 2020 elections roll around. If people aren't willing to put country over party and aren't willing to reach across the aisle and work together in behalf of our country, economic stability, and national security they should not be in Washington. Ever.

  • james d. morrison Sandy, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 8:17 p.m.

    Trump just needs to cave and reopen without the wall.

  • hoch ,
    Jan. 16, 2019 3:39 p.m.

    Each side can blame the other. But who does this ultimately come down to?
    The president needs to buck up and do the right thing here. No, not build a wall. Put Americans back to work.

  • Tlingit Orem, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 2:36 p.m.

    According to a recent poll by Pew Research:

    • 88% of Democrats would rather extend the shutdown indefinitely than give in to President Trump's demands.

    • 72% of Republicans would rather extend the shutdown indefinitely than give in to the Democrats.

    In my view, 100% of these people have let a political party do their thinking for them for far too long.

    *No* ethical and intelligent person thinks the institutionalized harm of innocent families is an acceptable bargaining chip, no matter how high the stakes.

    Denying pay to innocent Americans is a line no GOVERNMENT should ever cross.

    I get that people *really* want their way, but they simply need to find another way to get it. People are not pawns.

    I've noticed that these partisans haven't contacted their own employers to insist that they go without pay as part of the protest to support their political stance.

    I'm hopeful that The End Government Shutdowns Act (S. 104) sponsored by Rob Portman, (R-Ohio), will get some press attention, some citizen support, and become the law of the land.

    People can still fight over a wall as passionately as they want, they should just be a decent human being in the process.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 2:20 p.m.

    It's past time for Congress, you know, to actually "do something"!

    There, I said it and I feel much better.