Yep. Improvement would come faster if the BYU coaching staff would listen to
the fan base a bit better... many of this base were claiming the QB problem was
not with the coaching so much as with the fact they needed a different QB.Here is another suggestion... get a second good QB and rotate them so
that if one goes down you have someone up and ready to play. Also having two
QBs who can start freaks out opposing teams who have to study and wonder what
they will see on the field.
Gotta laugh at the jealous angst any mention of BYU improvement engenders
amongst our insecure little friends on the hill.
Real UteYour fictional summation of BYU’s current status is
amusing, but contains so many factual inaccuracies that it’s not even
worth taking the time to dispute your fantasies.Eat your veggies and
get plenty of rest because you’re going to need it to recover from
2019’s first game shocker.
@ London Joshsy77,I totally agree with you! All the best! Mike.
@skywalkerJan. 16, 2019 4:39 p.m.Utemythology “Utah, Tennessee, Boise State, and Utah State are NOT tossup games but
most likey loses, 1-3 at best.”What makes you think any of
those teams will be the same as they were in 2018?...I fully expect
BYU to finish at least 2-2 versus the toss-ups, maybe even 3-1.----------------Utah will not be the same, they will be MUCH
better. Already picked as a top 20 team.I fully expect Utah with
Moss and Huntley to win 9th straight and 8 of last 11 in Provo.I
fully expect Utah State with a junior QB to beat BYU in Logan for 3rd straight
and 4 of last 6.I fully expect BYU to upset Boise State or
Tennessee, most likely Boise @ LES, to go 1-3.The toss-ups are
@Toledo, @USF, @SDSU. I can see BYU going 2-1.Bottom line, 5 to 7
wins most likely and 8-4 will be a great year.Again, try not
starting 0-4 vs P5 else you're looking at a 5-7 season.
Is BYU really improving folks? Their recruiting classes, coupled with the
retention rates show otherwise. They haven't been ranked in a decade and
shouldn't have been in 2009 after getting creamed at home vs FSU and TCU,
their tv ratings are so bad they play at midnight MST, are stranded on
Gilligan's Island of independence and their fans don't travel, even to
SLC for "their rivalry game" vs Utah. All I see is "themselves"
massaging each other that BYU is "true" in the world of collegiate
sports. Their culture always displays such activity.............reassuring each
Not so fast! They have a lot to do to improve and most of it concerns the
coaching staff. I don't think they beat Utah, Whitt is a better coach. My
"Tenn is a tough team"Tennessee didn't qualify for a bowl
game, finishing last in their division. Literally a bottom feeder, as opposed
to "bottom feeding" Utah winning their division.The Cougars
should roll the Volunteers. If not, there is a bigger issue than the usual
suspects (referees, coaches, east of the Mississippi).
Win the Utah game and BYU will have a winning season. Lose and start dreaming
There are a lot of classy Utah fans and good football conversation in here.Then there are comments like this - "We're not here obsessing
about BYU-P, we're here making fun of BYU-P. There's a
difference." As somebody who doesn't delight in making fun of people I
don't really get it, but to each his own.On the comment about
the games with Utah, USU, Tenn and Boise being 1-3 at best, I'm not so sure
about that.I always like my chances against Utah, except this year,
and I was almost wrong, it's always an almost, you can't come down to
the wire so many times and make it through.USU has a new HC, it
doesn't matter that he's been there before, new players and a new
program and they have athletes but how will that transition work.Boise was so close, aside from the dreadful year 2 years ago the trend is that
the home team wins.Tenn is a tough team, but a lot of rebuilding
changes give BYU a solid opportunity there.I see a lot of
toss-ups.While BYU looked much improved, we basically lost all of
the close games this year - with the players a bit more mature and Grimes more
comfortable play calling I expect a small improvement next year over this year.
Title should be “BYU gained back some of the ground it lost due to
neophyte coaching in 2017.” Amd Kalani should have said, “In 2016
our team and our culture benefitted from the remnants of Bronco’s culture,
coaching and recruits. I lost control in 2017, and maybe in 2020 we will get the
program back to where Bronco had it.”
BYU must inhabit Utes's nightmares. For a 2nd tier team, the Utes sure brag
a lot about their nothingburger season. They beat BYU after taking 6 or 7 guys
out of the game. Yeah, that was no accident.Being an also ran in the
PAC12 was better than being in the bottom half. Still, BYU has fans nationwide
and plays some of the best teams in the nation. And BYU also plays 4 or 5 PAC12
teams every year too.U will always be in the shadow of BYU and you
know it. That's why it stings. And you know what? I never read a single
article on Utah football, and I don't see daily shows on Utah sports. Not
even in Salt Lake, let alone nationwide like BYU's shows are. Roku and
Direct TV has a BYU channel. Where is Utah's? BYU plays every game on
national TV. That's good because the Utah-BYU game will always be on
@Rockwell"Utah fans were claiming in 2010 that they had
“moved on”, yet here U are nearly a decade later still obsessing
about BYU."We're not here obsessing about BYU-P, we're
here making fun of BYU-P. There's a difference.
Considering last year’s schedule I thought BYU did pretty good. I think
improving on that will be difficult just because of the schedule next year, but
the program is headed in the right direction. I would consider 8-9:wins as a
SoonerUte “skywalker - "Utah will be breaking in a new OC
with no warmup game to work out the kinks"The obvious reply is
"when has a new OC ever stopped Utah from beating BYU"?”2006, 2007 and/or 2009Without looking it up, I’n sure Utah
had a new OC at least one of those years, and U barely escaped in 2018.
skywalker - "Utah will be breaking in a new OC with no warmup game to work
out the kinks"The obvious reply is "when has a new OC ever stopped
Utah from beating BYU"?But seriously, the "new" OC has
over 20 years experience as a D1 OC. This is not some former high school
football coach, or a first year OC moving over from QB coach. Plus he has been
with the organization before.BYU doesn't have a warm up game
either. Neither offense will be fine tuned and ready for "game speed"
from fall practice. Historically, defense has the advantage early on, so the
question is really "which team has the better defense"?
Utemythology “Utah, Tennessee, Boise State, and Utah State are
NOT tossup games but most likey loses, 1-3 at best.”What makes
you think any of those teams will be the same as they were in 2018?Utah will be breaking in a new OC with no warmup game to work out the kinks
and BYU had Utah on the ropes until the last 3 minutes in RES in 2018.Utah St will be breaking in a new coaching staff. BYU nearly beat
Boise St last season.And versus Tennessee, BYU has already proven
that they are capable of beating the big boys away from LES - Oklahoma, Texas,
Nebraska, Wisconsin and others.I fully expect BYU to finish at least
2-2 versus the toss-ups, maybe even 3-1.
@Snack WAC5 of your 7 wins this year came against teams ranked 100
or worse.Utah, Tennessee, Boise State, and Utah State are NOT tossup
games but most likey loses, 1-3 at best.Best case is not 10-2, it is
7-5 or 8-4.Good luck, try not starting 0-4.
@Jello-Okay I may have to concede I was a little pessimistic in my evaluation of
BYUs win/loss record next year. Your thought process makes sense. Heres hoping
you get that 8-4 record, but I am thinking 6-6 may be what you will have to
Well, the defense certainly improved. However, we still had an OC doing OJT.
Utemythology “Keep dreaming. Wilson has yet to beat a top 100
team.”Yawn.Wilson hadn’t completed 18-of-18
passes for 317 yards, 4 TDs and a QB rating of 322 until the final game of his
True Freshman season.Just because something hasn’t been done
before, doesn’t mean it’s impossible to do.NOBODY
expected BYU to beat Arizona and then #6 Wisconsin on the road, but lose to
California at home in 2018, but those things happen.NOBODY expected
Utah to drop from 8-5 in 2011, to 5-7 in 2012 and 2013, but those things
happen.Claiming that Utah can improve, but BYU cannot, is just
another example of the hubris of Utah fans.
BYU needs two or three powerful running backs. We had both Jamal Williams and
Taysom Hill on the same team in 2017. Not only could they outrun defensive backs
they could also knock them down. Who will soon forget Williams beckoning to
opposing players to come and get a little of the tough medicine he seemed to
dish out regularly. Quick, but small running backs do not seem to last long
these days as part of the strategy is to send the other teams players to the
dressing room for medical attention. Who can forget that we also had Harvey
Unga, Manese Tonga and Vai Vakapuna (please excuse any spelling errors). Those
fellow were a load and even they got hurt. If BYU thinks they must establish a
running game to get the passing game to work, they had better recruit men who
can make another teams defensive players wonder how to tackle an onrushing
freight train. Big boys can also be fast. Perhaps the coaches and recruiters
should all take beginning physics and learn this principle: Force = Mass x
@No SenseToss Ups:UtahTennesseeBoise StateUtah State-------Keep dreaming. Wilson has yet to beat
a top 100 team.2019 BYU: 5 to 7 wins
cougarsrock - Springville, UTJan. 16, 2019 9:10 a.m.Of Course the Y
showed improvement from the 2017 season as that is only obvious... The
disappointing part of the 2018 season is that the Cougs flat gave away the
Cal.,Boise St.,N. Illinois and utah games...They were not outplayed in those
games as they just found a way lose.--------BYU was
really an 11-3 team?LOLLast time that Dick Harmon logic
was used, BYU was 8 points for taking on Bama, the next season BYU went 4-9.
@ArizonaUteI mentioned Utah is supposed to have one of their best
teams ever, but you interpret that as lack of respect. O....K....Thank you for at least admitting BYU is on the rise.
@ArizonaUte, see, the difference is that Ute fans claim to be over BYU, not the
other way around. BYU fans want this rivalry and will keep up the banter as
such. Ute fans claim they don't, so they should be the big boys they claim
they are and stop engaging on BYU articles. It's hypocrisy, really. BYU
fans have never made such a claim and therefore aren't held to the same
standard we expect from our Ute brethren. Show us you're over the rivalry.
Oh, wait, you're not. See you guys at your Super Bowl in August, it's
still your biggest game, admit it.
@Bob67 -" I hope the Potato Bowl helps erase coach Sitake's
tendencies to restrict the passing attack. He needs to beef up his
trick play arsenal like Sean Payton, who is using Taysom Hill to give Bill
Belichick a run for the football 'genius' title. Sitake
can use a 2 QB on the field formation to give the defenders headaches! Please,
coach Sitake, study the Saints! Confuse the opponents' defense."------------Dude, stop it. It's embarrassing. Mangum
was not good at reading defenses, finding secondary targets or staying in the
pocket to deliver the ball. Knowing this after 3 years of futility, the coached
planned for his limited abilities.Wilson is a different animal. You
will see the game plan change, but there will still be balance. BYU had a top
20 defense this year because running the ball ran clock and let them rest.As to 2 QB's, it is rarely deployed because it rarely works. The
reason it does for Hill is because of Hills talents at other things besides
throwing. Hill can run and he can catch well enough that he can be on the field
to do those things. Most QB's are not that versatile leaving you more
limited with the personnel on the field.
CV StormThe storm has obviously fogged your brain.Hello’s prediction is much more realistic:Wins:ToledoUSFLibertyIdaho StateUMassSDSUToss Ups:UtahTennesseeBoise StateUtah StateLosses:WashingtonUSCWorst Case: 6-6Best
Case: 10-2Most Likely: 8-4 or 7-5Rise and Shout!!BYU is poised for a breakout season, despite the tougher 2019 schedule.
BYU learned a lot from the near misses in 2018.Don’t be
surprised if the Aggies finish 3rd in the state in 2019.
@CV Storm - Hyrum, UTJan. 16, 2019 12:20 p.m."Jello-seriously, you have been dipping into the blue kool aid again. BYU
may have improved somewhat, but they aren't making up that much ground.
Here is my projections. I think these are realistic, with no bias. Well maybe a
little for the Aggies."Just so you know that I have put more
than just a little thought into this, The following teams on next years schedule
are ranked below BYU in both the end of year Sagarin rating as well as the
"Way Too Early Prediction" Poll for 2019:ToledoUSFLibertyIdaho StateUMassSDSUBYU is #70 and
Tennessee is Only #66Of the remaining teams (Utah, USC, UW, Boise
State, and Utah State), BYU gets all but Utah State at home.6 wins
is almost automatic. 7 wins should be expected. 8 wins would not be that big
of a surprise.And since your an Aggie, I think we have a better
chance of beating Tennessee and/or USC than USU in Logan. As to
drinking the koolaid again, At the beginning of last year I predicted BYU would
go 6-6 and go to a bowl. I had a couple of the games wrong, but I had the final
number right. I remember a few who thought me to be optimistic then also.Rise and Shout!!
Yeah, the improvement is doing the obvious, and what so many saw 3 years ago...
we needed a much better QB for starters. Why did it take the Sitake and company
so long to see this?
Run-happy, overly conservative offenses are well received by - the other
teams' defense! I hope the breakout 2nd half in the Potato Bowl helps erase
coach Sitake's tendencies to restrict the passing attack. He
needs to beef up his trick play arsenal like Sean Payton, who is using Taysom
Hill to give Bill Belichick a run for the football 'genius' title. With as many QBs as BYU has, Sitake can use a 2 QB on the field
formation to give the defenders headaches! Please, coach Sitake, study the
Saints! Confuse the opponents' defense.
Jello-seriously, you have been dipping into the blue kool aid again. BYU may
have improved somewhat, but they aren't making up that much ground. Here is
my projections. I think these are realistic, with no bias. Well maybe a little
for the Aggies. Wins:LibertyIdaho StateUMassToss Ups:ToledoTennesseeLosses:UtahBoise StateUtah StateWashingtonUSCUSFSDSUWorst Case: 3-9Best Case: 6-6 With some upsets.
Wookie - Omaha, NEJan. 15, 2019 9:10 p.m.Please tell me where the
improvement is found? The won the games they were supposed to win (including a
terrible Arizona team as well as a bad Wisconsin team). ——ArizonaUte - SLC, UTJan. 16, 2019 10:55
a.m.@BlueCoug - Provo, UTJan. 16, 2019 10:25 a.m.Why is
Wisconsin even mentioned. They received 2 votes in the AP, among others
receiving votes.———Pre start of
season, NOBODY expected BYU to beat Arizona and #6 Wisconsin.Wisconsin didn’t finish in the Top 10, but claiming they were a
“bad” team is ridiculous.Wisconsin destroyed Miami in
their bowl game, and in Sagarin, Wisconsin finished only 2 places behind Utah,
and 7 places ahead of the Northwestern team that dominated Utah in the Holiday
Bowl.As previously stated, a disappointing season for a big name
team like Wisconsin, would often be considered a banner season for a lesser
program.Winning a division championship and being ranked in the
teens or 20’s in the CFP would be considered minor accomplishments by
Badger fans.Until 2018, Wisconsin or Iowa had won every B1G West
ArizonaUte“BYU fans are every bit as active on Utah articles.
And most BYU comments include something about Utah when it's a BYU
article.”The huge difference is BYU fans aren’t
constantly proclaiming that the rivalry no longer means anything to them and all
future games should be canceled.In other words, BYU fans
aren’t living in denial by claiming that the rivalry no longer means
anything to them.Utah fans were claiming in 2010 that they had
“moved on”, yet here U are nearly a decade later still obsessing
@ JelloI'd be great if BYU won 8 next season. We'll just
have to wait, through the long drought, and see.BYU is improving and
needed to in the worst way. So, glad to see Sitake doing just that.Utah fans do respect Zach Wilson and do think he is going to be a good one.
That said, there are a TON of really good QBs in the PAC 12. I
don't see a season upcoming where ZW will even be a top 4 QB Utah faces.
Good QBs don't scare Utah one bit.Can't wait for game #1.
@BlueCoug - Provo, UTJan. 16, 2019 10:25 a.m.Why is Wisconsin
even mentioned. They received 2 votes in the AP, among others receiving votes.
So, great job?Utah has been ranked more weeks and finished the
season ranked in the CFP more often than any other PAC 12 team. And more often
than Wisconsin, soooo?And trust me BYU and your fan base would
definitely consider it an accomplishment to even be ranked in the CFP one week,
ever. Let alone multiple weeks and multiple seasons with several seasons ranked
in the final CFP poll.Utah is on the rise too. And won the PAC 12
South. BYU is on the rise and went 6-6. Slight difference. @bemorefair - , 00Evidently you didn't see where I agreed
that BYU is improving. They are. I'm a Ute fan, BTW.I did
miss, however, the reciprocal respect for Utah being on the rise, winning the
PAC 12 South twice. Once as a Co-Champ and last season outright. It's ironic for a BYU fan to rip on Utah fans for not showing respect to
their team. Respect isn't a one way street, like BYU fans seem to want it
Unfortunately once again this isn't honest journal writing and way over the
top. What good do these types of articles do? Notice that Mr. Call left out
overall stats for the offense while including in some of the other categories.
That's because there was not great improvement on offense. We continue to
see this type of writing from the DN sports staff and even other Utah media
outlets. BYU fans do want to see progress, but we haven't seen it yet. Utah
writers focus on the schedule and the up and coming talent. Sitake's
comments should raise alarm for everyone. Yes a few more games were won and they
hav some up and coming talent, but you have to have good coaching and good play
calling yet. They've yet to play 4 strong quarters. And yes
though the Utes say we are insignificant you can tell by the amount of time they
spend talking and writing about us that we are pretty significant to them.
@Kaladin - Northern, COJan. 16, 2019 9:17 a.m.This is such a
tired line of smack. BYU fans are every bit as active on Utah
articles. And most BYU comments include something about Utah when it's a
BYU article. It's an instate rivalry. Just accept it. And
look at your own comments. Ironic. The fact that each fan base
responds to articles about the other team? It's the off
season, we love college football. This is what the media writes about....A team
that while improving, is 20-19 over the last three seasons. A team that
hasn't finished a season ranked in the AP in a decade and has never been
ranked in the CFP ever. Basically college football fans are bored
right now. Applies to both sides.
StateUMassSDSUToss Ups:UtahTennesseeBoise StateUtah StateLosses:WashingtonUSCWorst Case: 6-6Best Case:10-2Most Likely: 8-4
or 7-5Rise and Shout!!
ArizonaUte - SLC, UTJan. 16, 2019 9:37 a.m.@ BlueCoug“Why make everything about Utah?”Just putting things
into perspective.A down year for a big name team would often be
considered a banner year for a program that considers winning a division
championship and simply being ranked in the CFP at some point in the season a
huge accomplishment.Wisconsin fans began the season expecting the
pre-season #6 Badgers to be a legitimate B1G and National Championship
contender, so finishing with a blow out win over Miami in their bowl game was a
huge disappointment for Wisconsin fans.
@bemorefair"Where are the real Utah fans posting on BYU
articles? You know, the ones that can acknowledge BYU is on the right
track?"We are here; reading and laughing"Yes, it
is OK. Go ahead and drink the blue Kool-aid. BYU has Wilson, and Utah lost
Tuttle. Utah is supposed to have their greatest of all time (according to a
local radio station host) and BYU very well may beat that team this September.
It's OK to be hopeful. Kalani has given you every reason for optimism. Go
Cougs!"1. As for beating the Utes in September, too bad the game
is in August (you will claim victor anyway).2. Is he the greatest? No. It
doesn't really matter, you can't beat us anyway. 3. Wilson
still has his name on the list of byu qb's that can't beat Utah.
water rocket "In the Potato Bowl, the other team game planned to stop the
run, and they pretty much did just that."What happens is the other
team plans to stop the pass? Should good coaches have a run plan, or is Wilson
unstoppable now that he is "unleashed"?
@ BlueCougWhy make everything about Utah?@Jello-is-GoodI love your optimism but 8-9 wins?. There are 3
guaranteed wins on the 2019 schedule for BYU. Two more likely wins. For 5
likely wins. There are 4 losses and 3 more probable losses on that schedule.
Losses:Utah - until you prove otherwise. @Tennessee USC - They just have athletes. Daniels will be improvedWashington Likely losses - although these are closest to 50/50
games:@USF - Boise - This is a 50/50 imo.USU Probably win:@Toledo@San Diego State - on the road in SD
isn't as easy as you may think.Wins:LibertyIdaho
StateUMassI see 7 wins max regular season. 6-7 wins likely.
But it's a hard schedule for BYU.
Utah wants nothing to do with BYU and has left "little brother behind."
Right? Wait, 90% of the comments are from Utah fans, aka BYU is the most
important team in the world. BYU made significant strides this year. Next
year will be even better. The future is bright.
You won't see any real significant improvement until BYU gets into a
league. However, this won't happen because of byu's contract with
espn. Show me the money or get into a league? It will be a long time before
byu wins a league title.
Of Course the Y showed improvement from the 2017 season as that is only
obvious... The disappointing part of the 2018 season is that the Cougs flat gave
away the Cal.,Boise St.,N. Illinois and utah games...They were not outplayed in
those games as they just found a way to lose....The utah game was a shocker and
hopefully Sitake learned from that game and will never make that mistake
again.... Also, lots of dubious comments from ute fans on this Cougar article as
there are no articles to be found about their complete embarrassment against
northwestern in the Holiday Bowl...not too early prediction for the 2019 ute
Sitake finally humbled himself enough this year to actually implement culture
pieces that he learned from Whitt and Anderson such as accountability and
discipline. Unfortunately, Lamb had too much influence the first couple of
years that really brought the program down with his "self governing"
approach. Lamb almost single handedly killed the program. There is a reason
most of the big boys micro-manage their 17-20 something kids. Sitake finally
started to do that this year with more required weight training and conditioning
and just overall micro-management of the program. Wilson is a great
talent. BYU's 1's are solid, but they are still lacking big time with
their 2's and 3's. If they can get lucky and stay healthy, I expect
them to improve. But an injury to Wilson or a couple other key guys will be
very problematic. Although BYU ran Wilson effectively last year, I think they
are playing a risky game if they continue to do that. He took some serious hits
last year and it is just a law of numbers...just like Huntley at Utah,
eventually you will be hurt.
Little debate as to if BYU improved this yr. over last yr. They absolutely
did.They won more games and were better at the end of the season
than at the start. They are also young. So, that is a good place
to be as a team. Sadly next yrs. schedule seems even tougher. So the
improvements may not translate, ultimately, to a better records next season.
But they played BSU and Utah tough down the stretch. Being
competitive, even in losses, is an indicator of improvement.And
statistically, BYU was the #119 total offense in 2017. They were the #101 total
offense in 2018. That is improvement.I hope they continue to
improve. It's better in state when both Utah and BYU are good.It's certainly better for Utah to beat a BYU team that is good. Go Utes!!
Give it a rest water rocket. Detmer is gone, and he isn't coming back -
get over it.
Where are the real Utah fans posting on BYU articles? You know, the ones that
can acknowledge BYU is on the right track? I have Ute friends who have admitted
as much, but the only Ute fans you find posting on BYU articles are trolls. BYU
fans, please do not feed the trolls! Don't respond to them. These trolls know very well, as do any objective BYU fans, that Kalani has
made significant improvement and has BYU headed the right direction. Did you see
how far up the rankings the defense went - especially pass defense (by far the
best in the entire country - #1 most improved pass defense)? Did you see how far
the offense improved this year under a capable coaching staff? Yes,
it is OK. Go ahead and drink the blue Kool-aid. BYU has Wilson, and Utah lost
Tuttle. Utah is supposed to have their greatest of all time (according to a
local radio station host) and BYU very well may beat that team this September.
It's OK to be hopeful. Kalani has given you every reason for optimism. Go
Re: ekute Actually BYU fans celebrated two bowl wins this past
season. Our beat-down of WMU and Utah's epic meltdown in the glorified
Poinsettia Bowl. Yes, it was a great bowl season.
wookie“Are you claiming a moral victory over a terrible
Wisconsin team? Even Wisconsin fans and coaches admit this was a down
year”A down year for Wisconsin would be considered a banner
year for Utah.When was the last time Utah blew out a bowl opponent
the caliber of #34 (Sagarin) Miami?
BYU did show significant improvement from 2017 to 2018. They won 3 more games
against a tougher schedule with a younger team. I would contend that if they
had started Wilson from the beginning of the year instead on staying with a
below average senior they would have beat Cal, NIU and possibly Boise State.But coaches decisions and injuries are all part of the totality of the
season. BYU was a 7 win team. Next year I predict they win 8-9 games showing
additional improvement against an even tougher schedule.Rise and
@water rocket " let me clarify my earlier comment . 49 to 18 is a good
win, but BYU would have scored 112 points. Instead of the 302 yards they posted,
they would have gotten 692 yards of offense. Smart coaches would recognize
that, and stop trying to force a run style on this team. More to the point, the
BYU coaches are trying to use a thoroughbred race horse like a work plug plow
horse. If I, as a goofy couch potato can see that, why can't the
coaches?"And that is why you don't coach. You cannot
merely say that because one play worked one time and you gained 50 yards that if
you ran that play every down you would get 50 yards every time. The game plan
is a balance of personal strategy, the players you have, the opponent you are
playing, and other factors like weather. I can assure you if BYU had thrown the
ball 36 times in that game, Wilson would not have been 36 for 36 for 600 yards.
In fact I would argue that it is because we ran the ball so often that those
pass plays were as open as they were and we gained the yardage that we did. And
I would argue that because we ran often we used up more of the clock on offense,
allowing our defense to rest and be more effective.
skywalker - Palo Alto, CAJan. 15, 2019 10:17 p.m.water rocket“Good coaching would have flipped that ratio and had a blow out
win.”A 49-18 win is by definition a blow out win.Good teams make in-game adjustments, which is exactly what BYU did.-----Nope!BYU was only able to score when Western
Michigan lost the Thompson "cousins" on defense in the 2nd half.
A little bowl will meet all expectations and will be largely celebrated. go
BYU took the spot of the Mountain West Conference representative to play in the
World Famous Idaho Potato Bowl. That's significant because if not given
that opportunity, they would have finished with a .500 record. They represented
the Mountain West Conference well.
Skywalker. Are you claiming a moral victory over a terrible Wisconsin team? Even
Wisconsin fans and coaches admit this was a down year. However for the sake of
using your logic, your bowl partner beat NIU (which Utah also beat) and you beat
them...tell me...does that make your bowl team good or bad...? Also, remind me
again what happened to Miami’s coach? Are you claiming Miami is a good
team. This is getting fun. Please humor me.
Sitaki is pleased that after 3 years the players are starting to grasp the
culture. As long as we accept this drivel there will be no accountability. Can
you imagine, a coach not being accountable for on field results? Sitaki’s
observation about a culture improvement taking 3 years to begin is ludicrous.
My dad knew how to make a culture/attitude adjustment in me and it never took 3
years. The fact is that we only won 6 games against mediocre/poor opponents
(except Wisconsin who it turned out was a good but not very good team). 6 wins
is not much improvement from 5 wins when you consider all the injuries in 2017.
Unfortunately next year’s schedule is another Holmoe taylor made for a 0-4
start. Let me guess, mid-season next year Sitaki will blame the losses on the
QB, make a change and hail the emergence of a great new QB who wins a lot of
games in the second half of the season against very weak opponents. Sitaki and
Holmoe will then fire another assistant coach and rely on any reason other than
their own performance to continue their employment. Great culture is a given.
Win or go home. That is the only measure for a coach and an AD.
To "Skywalker" let me clarify my earlier comment so that you can
understand what I mean by a blow out. Yes, 49 to 18 is a good win, but using
the game numbers and flipping the run/pass ratio, BYU would have scored 112
points. Instead of the 302 yards they posted, they would have gotten 692 yards
of offense. Of greater significance however, would have been the opportunity to
play second and third string players, thus giving them valuable game experience.
Smart coaches would recognize that, and stop trying to force a run style on
this team. More to the point, the BYU coaches are trying to use a thoroughbred
race horse like a work plug plow horse. If I, as a goofy couch potato can see
that, why can't the coaches?
wookie“The won the games they were supposed to win (including
a terrible Arizona team as well as a bad Wisconsin team).”LOL
at your delusional claim that Wisconsin was a “bad” team.Wisconsin finished 8-5, destroyed Miami in their bowl game and finished TWO
places behind Utah in Sagarin and SEVEN places ahead of the Northwestern team
that dominated Utah in their bowl.
water rocket“Good coaching would have flipped that ratio and
had a blow out win.”A 49-18 win is by definition a blow out
win.Good teams make in-game adjustments, which is exactly what BYU
did.They weren’t “forced” to adjust, they chose to
BYU was much better than 2017 but much worse than 2016. Medicore at
best, with 5 of the 7 wins comming against teams ranked 100+.Best
win since 2012 was halftime at Utah.BYU 2019: 5 to 7 wins
It's funny how BYU fans gage the success of Wilson based on their potatoe
bowl against a MAC team. But I guess wins against Hawaii, NMSU, UMASS to name a
few is the new norm for BYU football. I'm glad Utah got invited
to the Pac12 won their division and that is really a show of progress. Then
having our freshman QB throw 18/18 in the potatoes bowl against a MAC team.
“Significant Improvement”BwhahahahaThey beat
a poor U of A/vastly overrated finish unranked WISC & ?Where
exactly is this “Significant Improvement” to be found?NIU @ home?Beat absolutely nobody good ZW?Please paint
the real picture—Thanks in advance!Go Utes!
Composite Ratings 2016 2017 2018BYU
40 120 60Utah 36 45
36Technically 2018 was significantly worse then Ty Detmer's 1st
year. Injuries and no-Taysom did-in Ty.
After the 2017 season, there was nowhere to go but up. Sadly, the progress of
the players was overshadowed by the poor in-game coaching.
Embarrassing losses to Washington and Utah State? Just those? I would consider
the others an embarrassment as well.
Please tell me where the improvement is found? The won the games they were
supposed to win (including a terrible Arizona team as well as a bad Wisconsin
team). They lost to who they were supposed to lose to. I just don’t see
the improvement. Next year will be a true challenge. The offense will be studied
by defenses. Zach’s tendencies will be exposed and the team will be
mediocre at best. I predict a 5-6 wins at the very most.
"BYU showed significant improvement in 2018" First of all, it only got
horrible under the current head coach. Next, to say that they showed
"significant" improvement is still a bit of a stretch. Any team that
has the QB talent BYU has, and then under utilizes that talent to feature the
run shows a serious lack of talent of the coaches. The Potato Bowl is proof.
In that game the other team game planned to stop the run, and they pretty much
did just that. This forced BYU to pass (notice, I used the word
"forced"). BYU ran the ball 33 times for an average of just 4 yards.
They passed the ball just 19 times for an average of over 18 yards, with zero
interceptions and 100 % completions. Good coaching would have flipped that
ratio and had a blow out win. Incidentally, with the exception of Hill, who is
a freak athlete, BYU has not sent any offensive talent to the NFL for a long
time. I am afraid that unless BYU coaches learn to adapt to their player's
strengths, they will never be great again. I love BYU, and this makes me sad.