BYU shows significant improvement in 2018, looking to build on that in 2019

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  • zipadeedoodah Lehi, UT
    Jan. 20, 2019 8:59 p.m.

    Yep. Improvement would come faster if the BYU coaching staff would listen to the fan base a bit better... many of this base were claiming the QB problem was not with the coaching so much as with the fact they needed a different QB.

    Here is another suggestion... get a second good QB and rotate them so that if one goes down you have someone up and ready to play. Also having two QBs who can start freaks out opposing teams who have to study and wonder what they will see on the field.

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2019 8:16 p.m.

    Gotta laugh at the jealous angst any mention of BYU improvement engenders amongst our insecure little friends on the hill.

  • Gandalph Sandy, UT
    Jan. 17, 2019 2:19 p.m.

    Real Ute

    Your fictional summation of BYU’s current status is amusing, but contains so many factual inaccuracies that it’s not even worth taking the time to dispute your fantasies.

    Eat your veggies and get plenty of rest because you’re going to need it to recover from 2019’s first game shocker.

  • Real Ute Dallas, TX
    Jan. 17, 2019 10:52 a.m.

    @ London Joshsy77,

    I totally agree with you! All the best! Mike.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 17, 2019 10:25 a.m.

    @skywalker
    Jan. 16, 2019 4:39 p.m.
    Utemythology

    “Utah, Tennessee, Boise State, and Utah State are NOT tossup games but most likey loses, 1-3 at best.”

    What makes you think any of those teams will be the same as they were in 2018?...

    I fully expect BYU to finish at least 2-2 versus the toss-ups, maybe even 3-1.

    ----------------

    Utah will not be the same, they will be MUCH better. Already picked as a top 20 team.

    I fully expect Utah with Moss and Huntley to win 9th straight and 8 of last 11 in Provo.

    I fully expect Utah State with a junior QB to beat BYU in Logan for 3rd straight and 4 of last 6.

    I fully expect BYU to upset Boise State or Tennessee, most likely Boise @ LES, to go 1-3.

    The toss-ups are @Toledo, @USF, @SDSU. I can see BYU going 2-1.

    Bottom line, 5 to 7 wins most likely and 8-4 will be a great year.

    Again, try not starting 0-4 vs P5 else you're looking at a 5-7 season.

  • Real Ute Dallas, TX
    Jan. 17, 2019 10:02 a.m.

    Is BYU really improving folks? Their recruiting classes, coupled with the retention rates show otherwise. They haven't been ranked in a decade and shouldn't have been in 2009 after getting creamed at home vs FSU and TCU, their tv ratings are so bad they play at midnight MST, are stranded on Gilligan's Island of independence and their fans don't travel, even to SLC for "their rivalry game" vs Utah. All I see is "themselves" massaging each other that BYU is "true" in the world of collegiate sports. Their culture always displays such activity.............reassuring each other.......oh my?

  • Sanefan Wellsville, UT
    Jan. 17, 2019 9:40 a.m.

    Not so fast! They have a lot to do to improve and most of it concerns the coaching staff. I don't think they beat Utah, Whitt is a better coach. My prediction 6-6.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 17, 2019 8:20 a.m.

    "Tenn is a tough team"
    Tennessee didn't qualify for a bowl game, finishing last in their division. Literally a bottom feeder, as opposed to "bottom feeding" Utah winning their division.

    The Cougars should roll the Volunteers. If not, there is a bigger issue than the usual suspects (referees, coaches, east of the Mississippi).

  • BleedingBlue Provo, UT
    Jan. 17, 2019 5:29 a.m.

    Win the Utah game and BYU will have a winning season. Lose and start dreaming for 2020.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Jan. 16, 2019 11:32 p.m.

    There are a lot of classy Utah fans and good football conversation in here.

    Then there are comments like this - "We're not here obsessing about BYU-P, we're here making fun of BYU-P. There's a difference." As somebody who doesn't delight in making fun of people I don't really get it, but to each his own.

    On the comment about the games with Utah, USU, Tenn and Boise being 1-3 at best, I'm not so sure about that.

    I always like my chances against Utah, except this year, and I was almost wrong, it's always an almost, you can't come down to the wire so many times and make it through.

    USU has a new HC, it doesn't matter that he's been there before, new players and a new program and they have athletes but how will that transition work.

    Boise was so close, aside from the dreadful year 2 years ago the trend is that the home team wins.

    Tenn is a tough team, but a lot of rebuilding changes give BYU a solid opportunity there.

    I see a lot of toss-ups.

    While BYU looked much improved, we basically lost all of the close games this year - with the players a bit more mature and Grimes more comfortable play calling I expect a small improvement next year over this year.

  • Oh Really? Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 11:19 p.m.

    Title should be “BYU gained back some of the ground it lost due to neophyte coaching in 2017.” Amd Kalani should have said, “In 2016 our team and our culture benefitted from the remnants of Bronco’s culture, coaching and recruits. I lost control in 2017, and maybe in 2020 we will get the program back to where Bronco had it.”

  • BlueHusky Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:24 p.m.

    BYU must inhabit Utes's nightmares. For a 2nd tier team, the Utes sure brag a lot about their nothingburger season. They beat BYU after taking 6 or 7 guys out of the game. Yeah, that was no accident.

    Being an also ran in the PAC12 was better than being in the bottom half. Still, BYU has fans nationwide and plays some of the best teams in the nation. And BYU also plays 4 or 5 PAC12 teams every year too.

    U will always be in the shadow of BYU and you know it. That's why it stings. And you know what? I never read a single article on Utah football, and I don't see daily shows on Utah sports. Not even in Salt Lake, let alone nationwide like BYU's shows are. Roku and Direct TV has a BYU channel. Where is Utah's? BYU plays every game on national TV. That's good because the Utah-BYU game will always be on national TV.

    Ipityufoos.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:16 p.m.

    @Rockwell

    "Utah fans were claiming in 2010 that they had “moved on”, yet here U are nearly a decade later still obsessing about BYU."

    We're not here obsessing about BYU-P, we're here making fun of BYU-P. There's a difference.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Jan. 16, 2019 7:58 p.m.

    Considering last year’s schedule I thought BYU did pretty good. I think improving on that will be difficult just because of the schedule next year, but the program is headed in the right direction. I would consider 8-9:wins as a sucse

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 16, 2019 7:06 p.m.

    SoonerUte

    “skywalker - "Utah will be breaking in a new OC with no warmup game to work out the kinks"
    The obvious reply is "when has a new OC ever stopped Utah from beating BYU"?”

    2006, 2007 and/or 2009

    Without looking it up, I’n sure Utah had a new OC at least one of those years, and U barely escaped in 2018.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 5:53 p.m.

    skywalker - "Utah will be breaking in a new OC with no warmup game to work out the kinks"
    The obvious reply is "when has a new OC ever stopped Utah from beating BYU"?

    But seriously, the "new" OC has over 20 years experience as a D1 OC. This is not some former high school football coach, or a first year OC moving over from QB coach. Plus he has been with the organization before.

    BYU doesn't have a warm up game either. Neither offense will be fine tuned and ready for "game speed" from fall practice. Historically, defense has the advantage early on, so the question is really "which team has the better defense"?

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 16, 2019 4:39 p.m.

    Utemythology

    “Utah, Tennessee, Boise State, and Utah State are NOT tossup games but most likey loses, 1-3 at best.”

    What makes you think any of those teams will be the same as they were in 2018?

    Utah will be breaking in a new OC with no warmup game to work out the kinks and BYU had Utah on the ropes until the last 3 minutes in RES in 2018.

    Utah St will be breaking in a new coaching staff.

    BYU nearly beat Boise St last season.

    And versus Tennessee, BYU has already proven that they are capable of beating the big boys away from LES - Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, Wisconsin and others.

    I fully expect BYU to finish at least 2-2 versus the toss-ups, maybe even 3-1.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 16, 2019 3:23 p.m.

    @Snack WAC

    5 of your 7 wins this year came against teams ranked 100 or worse.

    Utah, Tennessee, Boise State, and Utah State are NOT tossup games but most likey loses, 1-3 at best.

    Best case is not 10-2, it is 7-5 or 8-4.

    Good luck, try not starting 0-4.

  • CV Storm Hyrum, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 3:05 p.m.

    @Jello-Okay I may have to concede I was a little pessimistic in my evaluation of BYUs win/loss record next year. Your thought process makes sense. Heres hoping you get that 8-4 record, but I am thinking 6-6 may be what you will have to settle for.

  • wer South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 2:33 p.m.

    Well, the defense certainly improved. However, we still had an OC doing OJT.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Jan. 16, 2019 2:24 p.m.

    Utemythology

    “Keep dreaming. Wilson has yet to beat a top 100 team.”

    Yawn.

    Wilson hadn’t completed 18-of-18 passes for 317 yards, 4 TDs and a QB rating of 322 until the final game of his True Freshman season.

    Just because something hasn’t been done before, doesn’t mean it’s impossible to do.

    NOBODY expected BYU to beat Arizona and then #6 Wisconsin on the road, but lose to California at home in 2018, but those things happen.

    NOBODY expected Utah to drop from 8-5 in 2011, to 5-7 in 2012 and 2013, but those things happen.

    Claiming that Utah can improve, but BYU cannot, is just another example of the hubris of Utah fans.

  • Allen C Christensen American Fork, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 2:08 p.m.

    BYU needs two or three powerful running backs. We had both Jamal Williams and Taysom Hill on the same team in 2017. Not only could they outrun defensive backs they could also knock them down. Who will soon forget Williams beckoning to opposing players to come and get a little of the tough medicine he seemed to dish out regularly. Quick, but small running backs do not seem to last long these days as part of the strategy is to send the other teams players to the dressing room for medical attention. Who can forget that we also had Harvey Unga, Manese Tonga and Vai Vakapuna (please excuse any spelling errors). Those fellow were a load and even they got hurt. If BYU thinks they must establish a running game to get the passing game to work, they had better recruit men who can make another teams defensive players wonder how to tackle an onrushing freight train. Big boys can also be fast. Perhaps the coaches and recruiters should all take beginning physics and learn this principle: Force = Mass x Acceleration.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 16, 2019 2:08 p.m.

    @No Sense

    Toss Ups:
    Utah
    Tennessee
    Boise State
    Utah State

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    Keep dreaming. Wilson has yet to beat a top 100 team.

    2019 BYU: 5 to 7 wins

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 16, 2019 2:05 p.m.

    cougarsrock - Springville, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:10 a.m.
    Of Course the Y showed improvement from the 2017 season as that is only obvious... The disappointing part of the 2018 season is that the Cougs flat gave away the Cal.,Boise St.,N. Illinois and utah games...They were not outplayed in those games as they just found a way lose.

    --------

    BYU was really an 11-3 team?

    LOL

    Last time that Dick Harmon logic was used, BYU was 8 points for taking on Bama, the next season BYU went 4-9.

  • bemorefair , 00
    Jan. 16, 2019 1:55 p.m.

    @ArizonaUte

    I mentioned Utah is supposed to have one of their best teams ever, but you interpret that as lack of respect. O....K....

    Thank you for at least admitting BYU is on the rise.

  • bluesmule Sandy, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 1:18 p.m.

    @ArizonaUte, see, the difference is that Ute fans claim to be over BYU, not the other way around. BYU fans want this rivalry and will keep up the banter as such. Ute fans claim they don't, so they should be the big boys they claim they are and stop engaging on BYU articles. It's hypocrisy, really. BYU fans have never made such a claim and therefore aren't held to the same standard we expect from our Ute brethren. Show us you're over the rivalry. Oh, wait, you're not. See you guys at your Super Bowl in August, it's still your biggest game, admit it.

  • Jello is Good ,
    Jan. 16, 2019 1:01 p.m.

    @Bob67 -
    " I hope the Potato Bowl helps erase coach Sitake's tendencies to restrict the passing attack.

    He needs to beef up his trick play arsenal like Sean Payton, who is using Taysom Hill to give Bill Belichick a run for the football 'genius' title.

    Sitake can use a 2 QB on the field formation to give the defenders headaches! Please, coach Sitake, study the Saints! Confuse the opponents' defense."

    ------------

    Dude, stop it. It's embarrassing. Mangum was not good at reading defenses, finding secondary targets or staying in the pocket to deliver the ball. Knowing this after 3 years of futility, the coached planned for his limited abilities.

    Wilson is a different animal. You will see the game plan change, but there will still be balance. BYU had a top 20 defense this year because running the ball ran clock and let them rest.

    As to 2 QB's, it is rarely deployed because it rarely works. The reason it does for Hill is because of Hills talents at other things besides throwing. Hill can run and he can catch well enough that he can be on the field to do those things. Most QB's are not that versatile leaving you more limited with the personnel on the field.

  • No playoff for U Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 12:54 p.m.

    CV Storm

    The storm has obviously fogged your brain.

    Hello’s prediction is much more realistic:

    Wins:
    Toledo
    USF
    Liberty
    Idaho State
    UMass
    SDSU

    Toss Ups:
    Utah
    Tennessee
    Boise State
    Utah State

    Losses:
    Washington
    USC

    Worst Case: 6-6

    Best Case: 10-2

    Most Likely: 8-4 or 7-5

    Rise and Shout!!

    BYU is poised for a breakout season, despite the tougher 2019 schedule. BYU learned a lot from the near misses in 2018.

    Don’t be surprised if the Aggies finish 3rd in the state in 2019.

  • Jello is Good ,
    Jan. 16, 2019 12:49 p.m.

    @CV Storm - Hyrum, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 12:20 p.m.

    "Jello-seriously, you have been dipping into the blue kool aid again. BYU may have improved somewhat, but they aren't making up that much ground. Here is my projections. I think these are realistic, with no bias. Well maybe a little for the Aggies."

    Just so you know that I have put more than just a little thought into this, The following teams on next years schedule are ranked below BYU in both the end of year Sagarin rating as well as the "Way Too Early Prediction" Poll for 2019:

    Toledo
    USF
    Liberty
    Idaho State
    UMass
    SDSU

    BYU is #70 and Tennessee is Only #66

    Of the remaining teams (Utah, USC, UW, Boise State, and Utah State), BYU gets all but Utah State at home.

    6 wins is almost automatic. 7 wins should be expected. 8 wins would not be that big of a surprise.

    And since your an Aggie, I think we have a better chance of beating Tennessee and/or USC than USU in Logan.

    As to drinking the koolaid again, At the beginning of last year I predicted BYU would go 6-6 and go to a bowl. I had a couple of the games wrong, but I had the final number right. I remember a few who thought me to be optimistic then also.

    Rise and Shout!!

  • zipadeedoodah Lehi, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 12:45 p.m.

    Yeah, the improvement is doing the obvious, and what so many saw 3 years ago... we needed a much better QB for starters. Why did it take the Sitake and company so long to see this?

  • Bob67 Glenn Dale, MD
    Jan. 16, 2019 12:24 p.m.

    Run-happy, overly conservative offenses are well received by - the other teams' defense! I hope the breakout 2nd half in the Potato Bowl helps erase coach Sitake's tendencies to restrict the passing attack.

    He needs to beef up his trick play arsenal like Sean Payton, who is using Taysom Hill to give Bill Belichick a run for the football 'genius' title.

    With as many QBs as BYU has, Sitake can use a 2 QB on the field formation to give the defenders headaches! Please, coach Sitake, study the Saints! Confuse the opponents' defense.

  • CV Storm Hyrum, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 12:20 p.m.

    Jello-seriously, you have been dipping into the blue kool aid again. BYU may have improved somewhat, but they aren't making up that much ground. Here is my projections. I think these are realistic, with no bias. Well maybe a little for the Aggies.

    Wins:
    Liberty
    Idaho State
    UMass

    Toss Ups:
    Toledo
    Tennessee

    Losses:
    Utah
    Boise State
    Utah State
    Washington
    USC
    USF
    SDSU

    Worst Case: 3-9
    Best Case: 6-6 With some upsets.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Jan. 16, 2019 12:13 p.m.

    Wookie - Omaha, NE
    Jan. 15, 2019 9:10 p.m.
    Please tell me where the improvement is found? The won the games they were supposed to win (including a terrible Arizona team as well as a bad Wisconsin team).

    ——

    ArizonaUte - SLC, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 10:55 a.m.
    @BlueCoug - Provo, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 10:25 a.m.

    Why is Wisconsin even mentioned. They received 2 votes in the AP, among others receiving votes.

    ———

    Pre start of season, NOBODY expected BYU to beat Arizona and #6 Wisconsin.

    Wisconsin didn’t finish in the Top 10, but claiming they were a “bad” team is ridiculous.

    Wisconsin destroyed Miami in their bowl game, and in Sagarin, Wisconsin finished only 2 places behind Utah, and 7 places ahead of the Northwestern team that dominated Utah in the Holiday Bowl.

    As previously stated, a disappointing season for a big name team like Wisconsin, would often be considered a banner season for a lesser program.

    Winning a division championship and being ranked in the teens or 20’s in the CFP would be considered minor accomplishments by Badger fans.

    Until 2018, Wisconsin or Iowa had won every B1G West division championship.

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    Jan. 16, 2019 11:09 a.m.

    ArizonaUte

    “BYU fans are every bit as active on Utah articles. And most BYU comments include something about Utah when it's a BYU article.”

    The huge difference is BYU fans aren’t constantly proclaiming that the rivalry no longer means anything to them and all future games should be canceled.

    In other words, BYU fans aren’t living in denial by claiming that the rivalry no longer means anything to them.

    Utah fans were claiming in 2010 that they had “moved on”, yet here U are nearly a decade later still obsessing about BYU.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 11:03 a.m.

    @ Jello

    I'd be great if BYU won 8 next season. We'll just have to wait, through the long drought, and see.

    BYU is improving and needed to in the worst way. So, glad to see Sitake doing just that.

    Utah fans do respect Zach Wilson and do think he is going to be a good one.

    That said, there are a TON of really good QBs in the PAC 12. I don't see a season upcoming where ZW will even be a top 4 QB Utah faces. Good QBs don't scare Utah one bit.

    Can't wait for game #1. Go Utes!

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 10:55 a.m.

    @BlueCoug - Provo, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 10:25 a.m.

    Why is Wisconsin even mentioned. They received 2 votes in the AP, among others receiving votes. So, great job?

    Utah has been ranked more weeks and finished the season ranked in the CFP more often than any other PAC 12 team. And more often than Wisconsin, soooo?

    And trust me BYU and your fan base would definitely consider it an accomplishment to even be ranked in the CFP one week, ever. Let alone multiple weeks and multiple seasons with several seasons ranked in the final CFP poll.

    Utah is on the rise too. And won the PAC 12 South. BYU is on the rise and went 6-6. Slight difference.

    @bemorefair - , 00

    Evidently you didn't see where I agreed that BYU is improving. They are. I'm a Ute fan, BTW.

    I did miss, however, the reciprocal respect for Utah being on the rise, winning the PAC 12 South twice. Once as a Co-Champ and last season outright.

    It's ironic for a BYU fan to rip on Utah fans for not showing respect to their team. Respect isn't a one way street, like BYU fans seem to want it to be.

  • justbereal , 00
    Jan. 16, 2019 10:46 a.m.

    Unfortunately once again this isn't honest journal writing and way over the top. What good do these types of articles do? Notice that Mr. Call left out overall stats for the offense while including in some of the other categories. That's because there was not great improvement on offense. We continue to see this type of writing from the DN sports staff and even other Utah media outlets. BYU fans do want to see progress, but we haven't seen it yet. Utah writers focus on the schedule and the up and coming talent. Sitake's comments should raise alarm for everyone. Yes a few more games were won and they hav some up and coming talent, but you have to have good coaching and good play calling yet. They've yet to play 4 strong quarters.

    And yes though the Utes say we are insignificant you can tell by the amount of time they spend talking and writing about us that we are pretty significant to them.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 10:38 a.m.

    @Kaladin - Northern, CO
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:17 a.m.

    This is such a tired line of smack.

    BYU fans are every bit as active on Utah articles. And most BYU comments include something about Utah when it's a BYU article.

    It's an instate rivalry. Just accept it. And look at your own comments. Ironic.

    The fact that each fan base responds to articles about the other team?

    It's the off season, we love college football. This is what the media writes about....A team that while improving, is 20-19 over the last three seasons. A team that hasn't finished a season ranked in the AP in a decade and has never been ranked in the CFP ever.

    Basically college football fans are bored right now. Applies to both sides.

  • Jello is Good ,
    Jan. 16, 2019 10:38 a.m.

    @ ArizonaUte

    Wins:
    Toledo
    USF
    Liberty
    Idaho State
    UMass
    SDSU

    Toss Ups:
    Utah
    Tennessee
    Boise State
    Utah State

    Losses:
    Washington
    USC

    Worst Case: 6-6

    Best Case:10-2

    Most Likely: 8-4 or 7-5

    Rise and Shout!!

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 10:25 a.m.

    ArizonaUte - SLC, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:37 a.m.
    @ BlueCoug

    “Why make everything about Utah?”

    Just putting things into perspective.

    A down year for a big name team would often be considered a banner year for a program that considers winning a division championship and simply being ranked in the CFP at some point in the season a huge accomplishment.

    Wisconsin fans began the season expecting the pre-season #6 Badgers to be a legitimate B1G and National Championship contender, so finishing with a blow out win over Miami in their bowl game was a huge disappointment for Wisconsin fans.

  • 81Ute Central, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 10:16 a.m.

    @bemorefair

    "Where are the real Utah fans posting on BYU articles? You know, the ones that can acknowledge BYU is on the right track?"

    We are here; reading and laughing

    "Yes, it is OK. Go ahead and drink the blue Kool-aid. BYU has Wilson, and Utah lost Tuttle. Utah is supposed to have their greatest of all time (according to a local radio station host) and BYU very well may beat that team this September. It's OK to be hopeful. Kalani has given you every reason for optimism. Go Cougs!"

    1. As for beating the Utes in September, too bad the game is in August (you will claim victor anyway).
    2. Is he the greatest? No. It doesn't really matter, you can't beat us anyway.
    3. Wilson still has his name on the list of byu qb's that can't beat Utah.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:39 a.m.

    water rocket "In the Potato Bowl, the other team game planned to stop the run, and they pretty much did just that."
    What happens is the other team plans to stop the pass? Should good coaches have a run plan, or is Wilson unstoppable now that he is "unleashed"?

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:37 a.m.

    @ BlueCoug

    Why make everything about Utah?

    @Jello-is-Good

    I love your optimism but 8-9 wins?. There are 3 guaranteed wins on the 2019 schedule for BYU. Two more likely wins. For 5 likely wins. There are 4 losses and 3 more probable losses on that schedule.

    Losses:

    Utah - until you prove otherwise.
    @Tennessee
    USC - They just have athletes. Daniels will be improved
    Washington

    Likely losses - although these are closest to 50/50 games:
    @USF -
    Boise - This is a 50/50 imo.
    USU

    Probably win:
    @Toledo
    @San Diego State - on the road in SD isn't as easy as you may think.

    Wins:
    Liberty
    Idaho State
    UMass

    I see 7 wins max regular season. 6-7 wins likely. But it's a hard schedule for BYU.

  • Kaladin Northern, CO
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:17 a.m.

    Utah wants nothing to do with BYU and has left "little brother behind." Right? Wait, 90% of the comments are from Utah fans, aka BYU is the most important team in the world.
    BYU made significant strides this year. Next year will be even better. The future is bright.

  • ConradGurch Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:08 a.m.

    You won't see any real significant improvement until BYU gets into a league. However, this won't happen because of byu's contract with espn. Show me the money or get into a league? It will be a long time before byu wins a league title.

  • cougarsrock Springville, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:10 a.m.

    Of Course the Y showed improvement from the 2017 season as that is only obvious... The disappointing part of the 2018 season is that the Cougs flat gave away the Cal.,Boise St.,N. Illinois and utah games...They were not outplayed in those games as they just found a way to lose....The utah game was a shocker and hopefully Sitake learned from that game and will never make that mistake again.... Also, lots of dubious comments from ute fans on this Cougar article as there are no articles to be found about their complete embarrassment against northwestern in the Holiday Bowl...not too early prediction for the 2019 ute season 5-7.......

  • JackRyanSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:08 a.m.

    Sitake finally humbled himself enough this year to actually implement culture pieces that he learned from Whitt and Anderson such as accountability and discipline. Unfortunately, Lamb had too much influence the first couple of years that really brought the program down with his "self governing" approach. Lamb almost single handedly killed the program. There is a reason most of the big boys micro-manage their 17-20 something kids. Sitake finally started to do that this year with more required weight training and conditioning and just overall micro-management of the program.

    Wilson is a great talent. BYU's 1's are solid, but they are still lacking big time with their 2's and 3's. If they can get lucky and stay healthy, I expect them to improve. But an injury to Wilson or a couple other key guys will be very problematic. Although BYU ran Wilson effectively last year, I think they are playing a risky game if they continue to do that. He took some serious hits last year and it is just a law of numbers...just like Huntley at Utah, eventually you will be hurt.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 9:05 a.m.

    Little debate as to if BYU improved this yr. over last yr. They absolutely did.

    They won more games and were better at the end of the season than at the start.

    They are also young. So, that is a good place to be as a team. Sadly next yrs. schedule seems even tougher. So the improvements may not translate, ultimately, to a better records next season.

    But they played BSU and Utah tough down the stretch. Being competitive, even in losses, is an indicator of improvement.

    And statistically, BYU was the #119 total offense in 2017. They were the #101 total offense in 2018. That is improvement.

    I hope they continue to improve. It's better in state when both Utah and BYU are good.

    It's certainly better for Utah to beat a BYU team that is good.

    Go Utes!!

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Jan. 16, 2019 8:49 a.m.

    Give it a rest water rocket. Detmer is gone, and he isn't coming back - get over it.

  • bemorefair , 00
    Jan. 16, 2019 8:48 a.m.

    Where are the real Utah fans posting on BYU articles? You know, the ones that can acknowledge BYU is on the right track? I have Ute friends who have admitted as much, but the only Ute fans you find posting on BYU articles are trolls. BYU fans, please do not feed the trolls! Don't respond to them.

    These trolls know very well, as do any objective BYU fans, that Kalani has made significant improvement and has BYU headed the right direction. Did you see how far up the rankings the defense went - especially pass defense (by far the best in the entire country - #1 most improved pass defense)? Did you see how far the offense improved this year under a capable coaching staff?

    Yes, it is OK. Go ahead and drink the blue Kool-aid. BYU has Wilson, and Utah lost Tuttle. Utah is supposed to have their greatest of all time (according to a local radio station host) and BYU very well may beat that team this September. It's OK to be hopeful. Kalani has given you every reason for optimism. Go Cougs!

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Jan. 16, 2019 8:46 a.m.

    Re: ekute

    Actually BYU fans celebrated two bowl wins this past season. Our beat-down of WMU and Utah's epic meltdown in the glorified Poinsettia Bowl. Yes, it was a great bowl season.

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 8:20 a.m.

    wookie

    “Are you claiming a moral victory over a terrible Wisconsin team? Even Wisconsin fans and coaches admit this was a down year”

    A down year for Wisconsin would be considered a banner year for Utah.

    When was the last time Utah blew out a bowl opponent the caliber of #34 (Sagarin) Miami?

  • Jello is Good ,
    Jan. 16, 2019 7:53 a.m.

    BYU did show significant improvement from 2017 to 2018. They won 3 more games against a tougher schedule with a younger team. I would contend that if they had started Wilson from the beginning of the year instead on staying with a below average senior they would have beat Cal, NIU and possibly Boise State.

    But coaches decisions and injuries are all part of the totality of the season. BYU was a 7 win team. Next year I predict they win 8-9 games showing additional improvement against an even tougher schedule.

    Rise and Shout!!

  • Jello is Good ,
    Jan. 16, 2019 7:47 a.m.

    @water rocket
    " let me clarify my earlier comment . 49 to 18 is a good win, but BYU would have scored 112 points. Instead of the 302 yards they posted, they would have gotten 692 yards of offense. Smart coaches would recognize that, and stop trying to force a run style on this team. More to the point, the BYU coaches are trying to use a thoroughbred race horse like a work plug plow horse. If I, as a goofy couch potato can see that, why can't the coaches?"

    And that is why you don't coach. You cannot merely say that because one play worked one time and you gained 50 yards that if you ran that play every down you would get 50 yards every time. The game plan is a balance of personal strategy, the players you have, the opponent you are playing, and other factors like weather. I can assure you if BYU had thrown the ball 36 times in that game, Wilson would not have been 36 for 36 for 600 yards. In fact I would argue that it is because we ran the ball so often that those pass plays were as open as they were and we gained the yardage that we did. And I would argue that because we ran often we used up more of the clock on offense, allowing our defense to rest and be more effective.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 16, 2019 6:53 a.m.

    skywalker - Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 15, 2019 10:17 p.m.
    water rocket

    “Good coaching would have flipped that ratio and had a blow out win.”

    A 49-18 win is by definition a blow out win.

    Good teams make in-game adjustments, which is exactly what BYU did.

    -----

    Nope!

    BYU was only able to score when Western Michigan lost the Thompson "cousins" on defense in the 2nd half.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 6:43 a.m.

    A little bowl will meet all expectations and will be largely celebrated. go cougs.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    Jan. 16, 2019 5:37 a.m.

    BYU took the spot of the Mountain West Conference representative to play in the World Famous Idaho Potato Bowl. That's significant because if not given that opportunity, they would have finished with a .500 record. They represented the Mountain West Conference well.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Jan. 16, 2019 4:44 a.m.

    Skywalker. Are you claiming a moral victory over a terrible Wisconsin team? Even Wisconsin fans and coaches admit this was a down year. However for the sake of using your logic, your bowl partner beat NIU (which Utah also beat) and you beat them...tell me...does that make your bowl team good or bad...? Also, remind me again what happened to Miami’s coach? Are you claiming Miami is a good team. This is getting fun. Please humor me.

  • Cougalum St. George, UT
    Jan. 16, 2019 1:04 a.m.

    Sitaki is pleased that after 3 years the players are starting to grasp the culture. As long as we accept this drivel there will be no accountability. Can you imagine, a coach not being accountable for on field results? Sitaki’s observation about a culture improvement taking 3 years to begin is ludicrous. My dad knew how to make a culture/attitude adjustment in me and it never took 3 years. The fact is that we only won 6 games against mediocre/poor opponents (except Wisconsin who it turned out was a good but not very good team). 6 wins is not much improvement from 5 wins when you consider all the injuries in 2017. Unfortunately next year’s schedule is another Holmoe taylor made for a 0-4 start. Let me guess, mid-season next year Sitaki will blame the losses on the QB, make a change and hail the emergence of a great new QB who wins a lot of games in the second half of the season against very weak opponents. Sitaki and Holmoe will then fire another assistant coach and rely on any reason other than their own performance to continue their employment. Great culture is a given. Win or go home. That is the only measure for a coach and an AD.

  • water rocket , 00
    Jan. 16, 2019 12:05 a.m.

    To "Skywalker" let me clarify my earlier comment so that you can understand what I mean by a blow out. Yes, 49 to 18 is a good win, but using the game numbers and flipping the run/pass ratio, BYU would have scored 112 points. Instead of the 302 yards they posted, they would have gotten 692 yards of offense. Of greater significance however, would have been the opportunity to play second and third string players, thus giving them valuable game experience. Smart coaches would recognize that, and stop trying to force a run style on this team. More to the point, the BYU coaches are trying to use a thoroughbred race horse like a work plug plow horse. If I, as a goofy couch potato can see that, why can't the coaches?

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 15, 2019 10:24 p.m.

    wookie

    “The won the games they were supposed to win (including a terrible Arizona team as well as a bad Wisconsin team).”

    LOL at your delusional claim that Wisconsin was a “bad” team.

    Wisconsin finished 8-5, destroyed Miami in their bowl game and finished TWO places behind Utah in Sagarin and SEVEN places ahead of the Northwestern team that dominated Utah in their bowl.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Jan. 15, 2019 10:17 p.m.

    water rocket

    “Good coaching would have flipped that ratio and had a blow out win.”

    A 49-18 win is by definition a blow out win.

    Good teams make in-game adjustments, which is exactly what BYU did.

    They weren’t “forced” to adjust, they chose to adjust.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Jan. 15, 2019 10:10 p.m.

    BYU was much better than 2017 but much worse than 2016.

    Medicore at best, with 5 of the 7 wins comming against teams ranked 100+.

    Best win since 2012 was halftime at Utah.

    BYU 2019: 5 to 7 wins

  • Wild Ute Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2019 9:49 p.m.

    It's funny how BYU fans gage the success of Wilson based on their potatoe bowl against a MAC team. But I guess wins against Hawaii, NMSU, UMASS to name a few is the new norm for BYU football.

    I'm glad Utah got invited to the Pac12 won their division and that is really a show of progress. Then having our freshman QB throw 18/18 in the potatoes bowl against a MAC team.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Jan. 15, 2019 9:48 p.m.

    “Significant Improvement”

    Bwhahahaha

    They beat a poor U of A/vastly overrated finish unranked WISC & ?

    Where exactly is this “Significant Improvement” to be found?

    NIU @ home?

    Beat absolutely nobody good ZW?

    Please paint the real picture—Thanks in advance!

    Go Utes!

  • IQ92 hi, UT
    Jan. 15, 2019 9:39 p.m.

    Composite Ratings

    2016 2017 2018
    BYU 40 120 60
    Utah 36 45 36

    Technically 2018 was significantly worse then Ty Detmer's 1st year. Injuries and no-Taysom did-in Ty.

  • OC Fan Orange County, CA
    Jan. 15, 2019 9:36 p.m.

    After the 2017 season, there was nowhere to go but up. Sadly, the progress of the players was overshadowed by the poor in-game coaching.

  • wildbronco Nampa, ID
    Jan. 15, 2019 9:14 p.m.

    Embarrassing losses to Washington and Utah State? Just those? I would consider the others an embarrassment as well.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    Jan. 15, 2019 9:10 p.m.

    Please tell me where the improvement is found? The won the games they were supposed to win (including a terrible Arizona team as well as a bad Wisconsin team). They lost to who they were supposed to lose to. I just don’t see the improvement. Next year will be a true challenge. The offense will be studied by defenses. Zach’s tendencies will be exposed and the team will be mediocre at best. I predict a 5-6 wins at the very most.

  • water rocket , 00
    Jan. 15, 2019 8:01 p.m.

    "BYU showed significant improvement in 2018" First of all, it only got horrible under the current head coach. Next, to say that they showed "significant" improvement is still a bit of a stretch. Any team that has the QB talent BYU has, and then under utilizes that talent to feature the run shows a serious lack of talent of the coaches. The Potato Bowl is proof. In that game the other team game planned to stop the run, and they pretty much did just that. This forced BYU to pass (notice, I used the word "forced"). BYU ran the ball 33 times for an average of just 4 yards. They passed the ball just 19 times for an average of over 18 yards, with zero interceptions and 100 % completions. Good coaching would have flipped that ratio and had a blow out win. Incidentally, with the exception of Hill, who is a freak athlete, BYU has not sent any offensive talent to the NFL for a long time. I am afraid that unless BYU coaches learn to adapt to their player's strengths, they will never be great again. I love BYU, and this makes me sad.