A survey about the opinion of average Americans about the efficacy of a border
wall? Please. Why not query the perimeter experts like the Border Patrol or
American military? Unless you’ve lived near the border you have no idea of
the lawlessness and crime in the region. Or better yet talk to a family member
of a victim of an illegal alien criminal. Build the darn wall we will all be
better off, and that includes the poor sick children whose parents drag them
illegally across the border. If this bothers you contribute to legit
Someone posted on Facebook. When you go to heaven you must pass thru the pearly
gates. Somone also said. Take your door off your house see what happens.
This is what I’m saying. I’ve had cancer twice first time when I
was 46 second time 51 every day is a journey to me. I just finished paying
off my bills from the first time. I think it’s unfair I work and must
pay for all my medical needs. And you want to top it off my husband had the
widow maker at 50 because he worked his self to death lost his job 2 years ago
after 28 years of employment and has more medical condition then I can face
every day. But I do because if it was t for people who work what would those
who don’t do. We get no help. And I’m tired of helping those who
won’t pick there back sides up off a couch I give to those who I know
who need even when I did it myself. But this is all out of hand.
I also believe for the immigration system to work, employers must be required to
E-verify. This would significantly reduce those here illegally for over-staying
their Visas, and reduce the draw for immigrants to cross illegally. The goal is to create a safe, successful immigration system that allows people
to enter the country for defined purposes, including citizenship. I favor
making the system faster, easier, safer, and better.
wgirl,Trump speaks poorly of people from Central and S. America, and
he wants a big wall. Those are the hangups and issues, am I understanding this
correctly?How many cross the border illegally each year? They must
be getting across somehow, somewhere. Would a barrier reduce that? Is there
value in reducing it? I believe those are the real questions we need to ask,
not whether Trump's descriptions and size of the wall and the people are
the real issue. I did not vote for Trump and would like to see him
lose the next election in favor of a real conservative Republican. I do,
however, see the value of a barrier--it is not safe for parents to take their
young children across terrain to try and illegally cross the border. People die
doing this. They do it because of the dangers they face remaining in their
native country. We need to streamline the immigration system to allow people
faster, easier entry. But they need to qualify. There has to be order and
structure for a system to work.A barrier simply directs people to
ports of entry to maintain order and structure. This creates safety for
No wall will solve every immigration or border problem. There are too many
other routes. But that doesn't mean the idea should be discarded. Your
front door won't stop everyone who wants to get into your house, but you
keep it anyway.Every illegal immigrant who gets across the border
and stays long term does cost the federal government money. I read something
about a study that pegs that cost at over $80,000. It said if a wall stops 4%
of successful illegal border crossings, it would pay for itself in about 12
years.A wall should not be considered the only solution, but can be
an effective part of a multi-faceted solution. It would need to include
technology, personnel, efforts at the borders and every port of entry.Sections of wall built where homeland security and border patrol experts say
they need them would go a long way to reducing the number of arrests on our
southern border (currently a bit over 300,000 annually), and would allow some
redeployment of security personnel to other vulnerable areas, and would
eventually pay for itself.
Freiheit If you haven’t noticed those caravan members have been
finding places to climb over the wall and are dropping their children down to
someone who hopefully catches them. Many will try to enter without
getting caught which means the areas with little or no fencing. Wing here
illegally puts them at risk of those who will hire them and pay them almost
nothing. They are kept in the shadows and in poverty conditions. I had a
neighbor (Latino) who has a construction company. The state got after him when
one of his undocumented workers got hurt and he had not been paying state
industrial insurance for them. They live in homes he rents. Some people say that
“these people do the work no one else will do”. That is what they
said about Slavery.
@David: "if a wall is so terrible, so immoral, so awful, please explain why
Nancy Pelosi and dozens of other Democrats (including Obama, Hillary, Schumer)
spoke and voted in support of funding and building a barrier (fence) along our
Southern border in 2006."Sure. Democrats have always supported
border security. When sections of barrier - including walls, fences, etc. - were
deemed necessary by security experts, Democrats funded those efforts. Trump has described his wall hundreds of times. He wants a 1,000 mile long
wall (He first said 2,000 but then went down to 1,000), made of concrete, that
is 30 feet high. He always promised that Mexico would pay for this wall. He has called Mexicans rapists and murderers but, in mean-girl style
added, "I assume some of them are good people." He has dehumanized
immigrants. He has claimed they will "invest" us with diseases, and try
to hurt us. He doesn't want people coming here from "[vulgarity] - hole
countries." Trump's wall will not increase our security.
Trump's wall is a symbol of fear and hatred. If there is a
"crisis" then why didn't Trump work with his Republican House and
Senate to get his wall in 2017 or 2018?
If a wall is so terrible, so immoral, so awful, please explain why Nancy Pelosi
and dozens of other Democrats (including Obama, Hillary, Schumer) spoke and
voted in support of funding and building a barrier (fence) along our Southern
border in 2006.If a barrier/wall is so terrible, why has fencing
been built in San Diego and had positive impact? I don't hear awful things
about the barriers in San Diego. I have heard that the fences there have
contributed to a decrease in illegal immigration flow to the area.Is
the immoral issue the cost of a wall? If so, Democrats are now proposing social
programs that will cost $Trillions--free college, guaranteed work, free
healthcare for all.Is the immoral part of a wall simply that Trump
is proposing it? This seems to be the real reason. Oh, and the fact that the
liberal base is much, much more extreme now than in 2006. Clearly,
the real issue for Democrats is not a border barrier, wall, or fence. The real
issue is Trump and the extreme elements of the Democrat Party.Will a
wall solve all immigration problems. No. Will it help?This bigger
issue is overstaying Visas. How do we solve that one?
Thid Barker - Victor, ID "Apparently there is another caravan forming in
Mexico planning on crossing our southern border."What happened to the
last caravan? It stopped at the border.Why did it stop at the border?
Because our borders are controlled.Trump's wall is for vanity.
It wasn't needed to stop caravan #1. It isn't needed for caravan #2.
@Right is Right: "A good wall would funnel these people to the ports of
entry where they can request asylum and aid. " In case you missed it, the
caravan and the families that suffered separation and incarceration were
attempting to request asylum at legal ports of entry, not at some wild canyon in
the Big Bend country.
You would think that the fact that these Trump supporters could only muster 2
perecent of the money they were trying to raise and a fraction of 1 percent of
the money Trump wants, and that would not be enough to complete the wall, would
maybe be a wake up call to how rediculious his request is and how little support
there is for it.
@Right is Right: "...One thing no one seems to realize is that we really
need the wall in the deserted and sparsely populated areas. The reason being
that that is where the drug traffickers go... "It's been
verified over and over again that vast majority of drugs flood in through the US
via ports of entry. Wall won't have any meaningful effect at all.
@ Thid Barker"Apparently there is another caravan forming in
Mexico planning on crossing our southern border."You're
promoting hysteria at the expense of truth. It may suit your fancy to believe
these "caravans" are full of MS-13 gangsters, Middle East terrorists,
and swarms of people carrying smallpox and leprosy, but people are tired of the
same old talking points. Get more creative.@ Thid Barker"This is a great idea! My family and I will contribute the money we set
aside for our family vacation this summer and consider it money very well
spent!"This GoFundMe profiteer has a history of making similar
wild claims. It seem very fitting that you would send your hard-earned money to
this fellow. Good luck with that!
Fools and their money are soon parted.
If you are against the wall, then don't be two faced and take down the
fence around your house and take the doors off the hinges. Everyone should be
welcome.I know there are problems in many of the countries to our
south. Having open boarders is inviting the same problems here.One
thing no one seems to realize is that we really need the wall in the deserted
and sparsely populated areas. The reason being that that is where the drug
traffickers go, but more importantly that is where people will try to sneak
across. these are people poorly prepared to cross a desert. The are bringing
children who are more at risk to Dehydration and the elements.A good
wall would funnel these people to the ports of entry where they can request
asylum and aid. Many of these people are good, but we can not allow
the bad to come as they want.
@Pugman - Tremonton, UTJan. 15, 2019 1:14 p.m.The government being
shut down is not a bad thing folks. Unless of course you rely on them for your
handout. I for one am tired of libs and progressives"Yeah- or
Veterans that need medical handouts. Or Vets that need a VA loan. Or farmers
that need their government subsides. Or Red States like Utah that take in more
Fed funds than they pay in. Or GOP supporters that rely on Federal firefighters
to protect their homes during wildfires. I'm tired of them too.
@DN Subscriber"Don't believe everything you read.I rolled
my donation over to the new project, and will probably donate some more. I am
willing to help pay for border security."This money would be no
different than that conservative refrain to liberals who want a tax increase
that goes like "if you want to pay more you can always just choose to pay
more". But the thing is you can't choose allocation of that money to a
specific program. It just goes into the general fund. They could raise 5 billion
and send it to the government's general fund but if money isn't
allocated for the wall by Congress it's not going to the wall.@Thid Barker"Of all the illegal aliens arrested last year, drug or
immigration offenses accounted for 45 percent of all offenses, and approximately
12 percent (over 6,600 illegal aliens) were arrested for violent offenses such
as murder, robbery, assault, and sex-related crimes. Another wave will be at the
border any day now! Build the wall!"There were 1.28 million
violent crimes in the US in 2017.
We all knew which way that would go.......
The government being shut down is not a bad thing folks. Unless of course you
rely on them for your handout. I for one am tired of libs and progressives
Thid,Maybe you could help me with this one little thing I am failing
to understand. Before the election the President sent a bunch of troops to the
border saying we have a crisis. After the election he brought the troops home,
I am assuming because the crisis was over. Now we have a government shutdown
because there is a crisis on the border that we just barely brought troops home
from. Could you help all that make sense for me, because from where
I am sitting it looks like the crisis we sent troops to the border for was the
Democrats appeared to be pulling ahead in the midterms, and the crisis we now
have is that Mueller is closing in on the President and things aren't
Of all the illegal aliens arrested last year, drug or immigration offenses
accounted for 45 percent of all offenses, and approximately 12 percent (over
6,600 illegal aliens) were arrested for violent offenses such as murder,
robbery, assault, and sex-related crimes. Another wave will be at the border any
day now! Build the wall!
Reading some of these comments it is easy to see why Utah has a big problem with
white collar crime and financial fraud. Some people will believe
just about anything.
"A 2018 survey by the Pew Research Center found that a 56 percent majority
opposes substantially expanding the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border."Who in the world are they surveying?? People in San Francisco, NYC and
There are a lot of other solutions to securing our border. A wall is contentious
and if built would remain so. Secure the border, but not with a wall. Use
technology, use manpower, use creativity and initiative. The US can do this
without a symbolic wall.
You can't fool all the people all the time, but you can fool some of the
people some of the time- and that's enough to make a living." W.C.
Thid Barker claims: "Apparently there is another caravan forming in Mexico
planning on crossing our southern border."You mean like the last
one that evaporated right about the time the election was over?Besides all the lies about the other caravan by right wing nationalists were
just that lies, why would we believe this conveniently contrived crisis your
pushing? The fear factor version of the GOP is going to go into high
gear, as more corruption is exposed in this administration.
There's a sucker born every minute- P.T Barnum.A fool and his money
are soon parted- ancient proverb.Both are definitely applicable
I am disappointed that congress refuses to pass a veto proof bill. I’m
disappointed that McConnell who chided Reid is doing the very same thing that
Today, McConnell *again* blocked a House bill to reopen the government from
coming up for debate on the Senate floor. They could override Trump's
veto, the Republicans just don't want to.This is no longer a
Trump shutdown.This is solely a Republican shutdown.
Apparently there is another caravan forming in Mexico planning on crossing our
southern border. Democrats plan: use drones but drones will not stop illegal
criminals from entering our country, but a wall will!
Don't believe everything you read.I rolled my donation over to the
new project, and will probably donate some more. I am willing to help pay for
border security.The Deseret News is becoming more of a repeater of
stuff from the terribly biased and often unreliable sources like CNN, the Pew
Foundation and the New York Times. If I wanted "fake news" I would
subscribe to them, instead of the Deseret News.
And I'm building a bridge in the desert. Please donate!A fool
and his money are soon parted.
The gullible may contribute their life savings for the mythological medieval ego
20 million sounds like a lot, but Trump is asking for 5 billion.If 5
billion was a dollar bill, these people raised less than a penny.
Somehow I'm not surprised me that people who continue to believe
President's promises about the wall would also be so eager to send cash to
an iffy project.
Thank you for this great article. Our family will be making a donation. The wall will be a great blessing to our Brothers and Sisters from Mexico and
South/Central America. It will help them to "...honor, obey and sustain the
It’s sad that ordinary US citizens are trying to raise their own hard
earned money to build a barrier in order to keep and make themselves feel safe.
Trump isn’t building a wall for himself, he’s building it to keep
the US safe and the democrats could care less of what kind of bad things result
from keeping parts of the border wide open. This is not only a national security
issue, it’s a health and safety concern, as well as a financial liability
for our country but the democrats who have unlimited funds for everything else
in the world can’t budge and give Americans a wall that we need so that we
can feel safe and secure. The Dems would rather accommodate and protect illegal
immigrants in their sanctuary cities, attack ICE for doing their job and let
this problem fester and milk the humanitarian crisis on the border so that it
won’t go to waste.
Seems like a bit of a con man, no surprise he would be a Trump fan.He has a checkered past of accepting donations without any proof he used the
funds as he suggested they would be.Go fund me has certain rules
that try and keep people honest, Me thinks he wants to avoid close scrutiny.
This is a great idea! My family and I will contribute the money we set aside for
our family vacation this summer and consider it money very well spent!