Stop the Bleed campaign teaches what to do in situations like Fashion Place shooting

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  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Jan. 15, 2019 8:31 p.m.

    Violent crime rates in our nation are at 50+ year lows. We literally have to go back to the 1950s Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best, before the social/sexual revolution to find lower violent crime rates.

    Many people find that hard to believe because the 24 hour news cycle and social media put the ever more rare crime in front of us ever more often. If it was a slow news day in Flordia or Oregon, they may well have got a report on what was a rather mundane gang shooting in Salt Lake City, Utah.

    Of course, even with lower crime rates, any particular community may see a rise in crime over time as a result of increased population. Utah's population is double what it was in the 1980s. It is also far more diverse and we've got more gang problems than we used to. So even with nationwide violent crime rates at 1/2 the rate in the 80s, SL may well see more crime than they did in the 80s. Utah's current violent crime rate is about the same as Canada's.

    And contrary to what some claim, these types of crimes occur in every nation, including those that outlaw private ownership of firearms.

    First aid is more likely to be needed for a car or ATV crash than a shooting. Facts and data.

  • MGoodwin Murray/USA, UT
    Jan. 15, 2019 11:22 a.m.

    If you have solutions for the gang violence and terrorism issues, I'm all ears. When all we do is try to control the implements by which it is done, all you'll discover is some people are extraordinarily creative in finding ways to kill people.

  • Zabilde Riverdale, UT
    Jan. 15, 2019 8:15 a.m.

    As Tony stated, the philosophy of the Dr. is a bit outdated. During the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan the Military changed it's views on Tourniquets. They realized that applying a tourniquet does not mean the limb is a write-off, so they are not a last ditch action. But are appliied prior to or in conjunction with packing the wounds. The CAT touriquets are inexpensive and available, but any belt or strap (you want a wide flat surface to avoid cutting into the flesh when it's tightened down.) will do. You still need to note the time the tourniquet was applied but with modern medical transport and medicine the limb can usually be saved.

  • SAS Sandy, UT
    Jan. 15, 2019 6:59 a.m.

    @Hutterite:

    And then, consider that in no other civilized country are such questions necessary or relevant.

    But at least we have freedom, right?

  • Tony1941 Winchester, VA
    Jan. 15, 2019 6:34 a.m.

    The CAT tourniquet is standard issue for members of the U.S. military and many law enforcement and medical responders. It was evaluated by the U.S. Army for several years prior to its introduction into the U.S. military and has proven in the field to be the most effective for its intended use.

    A tourniquet is useful in controlling severe bleeding prior to packing a severe wound with gauze and should be used for that purpose. It can be purchased at Amazon.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 14, 2019 9:13 p.m.

    It's fantastic, and tragic, that we should know what to do in the event of a shooting in a public place. Fantastic in that we know how to respond to the wounds. Tragic in that we cannot be allowed to ask why they occur.