Sen. Mike Lee joins GOP senators on bill to permanently end government shutdowns

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  • DonO Draper, UT
    Jan. 14, 2019 10:34 a.m.

    Cutting government spending during a shutdown should include withholding salaries from members of Congress.

  • FanOf"ChuckARama" Vernal, UT
    Jan. 12, 2019 12:33 p.m.

    "2 - it would have prevented bill and BO and Nancy/Chuckie from shutting down the government to get what they want."

    How about looking at both sides and say, to end the immature squabbling between selfish Politicians?

  • at long last. . . Kirksville , MO
    Jan. 12, 2019 10:03 a.m.

    I would hope the elected folks are not able to prevent by law, governmental shutdowns. Perpetually funded government - regardless of good intent - is a very scary prospect to many of us. This would signify nearly complete loss of control by the citizens of their government. There are many dreadful consequences to this proposal that have not been addressed and probably not even thought of by the politicians. Citizens need to think about this proposal and the likely outcomes on down the road, and tell your elected federal politicians that it is an idiotic idea.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Jan. 12, 2019 6:49 a.m.

    "Obama shut the government down to force his failure of a healthcare system on Americans. "

    Show me the GOP plan to replace the ACA. I'm still waiting.

    Remember Trump said he had a plan that would be cheaper, better and cover more Americans.
    The GOP has repeatedly attempted to kill the ACA but dont even have a plan that they agree on.

    And Ted Cruz put forth legislature that would impose term limits. Wanna bet that both R and D will find reasons to vote that down? (or Mitch will refuse to bring it to a vote)

  • Utefan60 , 00
    Jan. 12, 2019 6:30 a.m.

    Isnt it ironic that Lee, who with Ted Cruz held America hostage, closed our National Parks and caused an estimated 23 $billion damage to our economy is the sponsor of this bill?

    Just the never ending show.

    I wonder what game he is up to now? Maybe he realized that he and Cruz became the target for such anger before. Maybe he has learned to get out of the way? To lay low? Maybe?

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 7:40 p.m.

    One big problem with the current setup is that the executive and the legislature blame each other and neither accepts responsibility. While the appropriations process starts in the House, responsibility also lies in the Senate and in the President. It is only common sense to have a continuing resolution to permit programs and functions that are ongoing to continue to be funded at the previously decided level until a new budget agreement can be reached. If the sides involved want to hold their own salaries in abeyance until the impasse is resolved, all well and good. When we have an impasse because of political brinksmanship, many public servants are put in jeopardy and the nation as a whole as well. If each party, Democrat and Republican, really desire the well - being of our country, they will vote for this proposed bill. Then neither side can hold the country hostage to politics.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 6:27 p.m.

    @naive American

    The time to do it was when republicans controlled all branches. It is true about the 60 vote in the senate but republicans could have negotiated a deal with democrats in the senate. Now they have to do it in the house and the senate.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 5:48 p.m.

    @DN Subscriber;
    "Sen. Lee you are beyond wrong on this one."

    Wow! Common ground? Good job.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 5:14 p.m.

    @Esquire
    "all of the shutdowns have been initiated by the Republicans. Sorry to contradict your false narrative."

    Democrats shut down the government a year ago by filibustering the budget vote in the Senate, they demanded DACA reinstatement.

    @fitz
    "interestingly Obama (a Democrat President), when he was President, shut down the federal government back in 2013 for 16 days"

    Republicans shut down the government over their demands that the ACA, which was already established law, be defunded.

    @n8ive american
    "2013, Democrats were willing to fund 40 billion for a wall, but now balk at 6 billion. What changed?"

    What changed is that the 2013 bill was a comprehensive proposal that included some things Democrats want and some things Republicans want. You know, compromise. Democrats don't want a wall but they are willing to provide funding for a wall in exchange for things they do want. Last year there were talks about trading wall funding for DACA but that fell apart when more demands were made like Trump wanting to end chain migration and reduce legal immigration.

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 4:57 p.m.

    I agree with this law. Requiring an increase in the debt AFTER approval of a budget is stupid and allows the small-minded political parties to create “emergencies,” then grandstand, while holding federal employees hostage to their idiotic tantrums.

    The Federal Government is the least important level of government. People shouldn’t expect from its disfunctional nature.

  • Tweety Modesto, CA
    Jan. 11, 2019 4:50 p.m.

    Riiight. I'm good with a Government Shutdown ONLY if this new bill tweaks the wording and withholds YOUR pay and YOUR fellow Senators and Congress members pay because you govern our hard earned tax dollars so poorly. I'm about 99.9% sure you'll all be able to come to a swift solution and conclusion to all of the problems this country faces. Besides, this is OUR money you are all messing with. It's not yours. It is OURS. So do the right thing. You know better.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 4:21 p.m.

    No, a thousand times no!

    This would fix nothing, but it would prevent the culprits in Congress from getting the blame they richly deserve when they fail to do their job. Failure has become a habit for nearly a decade now, resulting in the "continuing resolution" game being played, and then "shutdowns". Automatic continuing resolutions are unacceptable!

    Congress must simply show up, work more than 23 days a week, take fewer vacations, and hold the debates and make the tough votes to pass budgets and appropriations bills by September 30. That fixes the problem instead of providing them cover to dither endlessly.

    Remember, the fiscal year used to start on July 1st, but in 1976 they changed the fiscal year to start October 1st to allow more time to do their budgetary job.

    Instead of giving cover to politicians who fail to do their job, they need to pass a law that no member of congress shall be paid anything at all for any fiscal year where they have not passed the appropriations bills on time. That might motivate them.

    Sen. Lee you are beyond wrong on this one.

  • omahahusker Modesto, CA
    Jan. 11, 2019 3:38 p.m.

    In the interest of all American Citizens, Congress should pass a bill stating members of the Congress and President must complete the budget by 1 Oct every two years. If they fail to do so, their next income check will be reduced by 50%, then another 50% until reaching zero. That would be a reasonable motivator, and would not penalize Federal Government Employees.

  • cool47 Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 3:24 p.m.

    This is really rich coming Senator Lee who along with Ted Cruz and others shut down the government to destroy Obama Care. We, however, should be encouraged. Maybe he has learned something.

  • samhill Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 3:21 p.m.

    "Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, has proposed the measure in every Congress since being elected in 2010."
    ===========

    A great idea and something that should have passed easily IF there were enough honest legislators to do something so intelligent and effective.

    Of course, were that the case, a bill like this wouldn't be necessary in the first place. :o/

  • n8ive american Shelley, Idaho
    Jan. 11, 2019 3:04 p.m.

    To Impartial:

    The reason is wasn't done when GOP controlled it all is because it requires 60 votes to pass. GOP only had 51 members. That would have required some Democrats to vote in favor as well. But we all know that would never happen.

    To Esquire:
    Obama shut the government down to force his failure of a healthcare system on Americans.

    2013, Democrats were willing to fund 40 billion for a wall, but now balk at 6 billion. What changed?

  • Fitz Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 3:01 p.m.

    Esquire - Springville, UT - interestingly Obama (a Democrat President), when he was President, shut down the federal government back in 2013 for 16 days or so this fact has been mentioned a number of times in the last few weeks today,

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 2:28 p.m.

    In concept, I think this is a good idea. It will take away a destructive tool relied on by Republicans since the Newt Gingrich era. However, Mike and his fellow Republicans really should bring an end to the current shutdown. It's time to take corrective action on Trump.

    @ lost in DC, all of the shutdowns have been initiated by the Republicans. Sorry to contradict your false narrative.

  • Tlingit Orem, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 1:37 p.m.

    Like others, I'm concerned about this bill's ramifications on the budget, however, forcing innocent people to live without pay crosses a line that should never be crossed.

    I get some people really want a wall, and others really don't, nevertheless, you need to find a way to fight for what you believe in in ways that don't hurt innocent people.

  • Ranch Here, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 1:17 p.m.

    Pretty hypocritical of Shutdown Mike, who, along with Ted Cruz held the government hostage in their attempts to dismantle the ACA.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 1:14 p.m.

    "Mexico can pay a one time amount of 5 to 10 Billion Dollars" Donald Trump in an OP ED piece in the Washington Post. So where is the check?

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 12:31 p.m.

    @lost in DC;
    "2 - it would have prevented bill and BO and nancy/chuckie from shutting down the government to get what they want."

    Ummm. Trump and McConnell shutdown the government. Trump is on TV, Dec. 11, saying it's "His shutdown", and "He's proud to own it". The GOP controlled the Senate, House and White House for 2 years. If there was a border crisis, why didn't they pass a border funding bill. The Senate passed a spending bill, 100-0, and Trump didn't sign it, after Rush and Ann told him not to. The shutdown happened before Dems took the House. But, don't let facts get in the way of your position.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 12:22 p.m.

    "Shutdowns are not a responsible way to govern," Lee said."

    Says the guy who almost single handedly (it was him and Cruz) shut down our government.
    Republicans are always making laws to deal with problems that they create. How about Lee, and his fellow GOP Senators, pass a veto proof spending bill that Trump can't mess up?

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 12:19 p.m.

    @lost in DC
    "it would have prevented bill and BO and nancy/chuckie from shutting down the government to get what they want."

    The shutdown during the Obama administration was because the GOP wanted to defund the ACA. With this anti-shutdown bill in place the continuing resolution status would be one that maintains ACA funding.

    It would have stopped the Democrats in the shutdown a year ago when they wanted DACA but that was one that Democrats abandoned in 3 days so they already determined shutdowns aren't really effective.

    And for this current shutdown the continuing resolution status means no wall funding.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 11:47 a.m.

    dems will naturally oppose it because:
    1 - it was proposed by the GOP
    2 - it would have prevented bill and BO and nancy/chuckie from shutting down the government to get what they want.

  • bass679 Novi, MI
    Jan. 11, 2019 11:28 a.m.

    I don't think it'll get passed but I think it's a great idea. Holding people's jobs and services hostage for political points is pretty heinous, no matter you political leanings.