Cutting government spending during a shutdown should include withholding
salaries from members of Congress.
"2 - it would have prevented bill and BO and Nancy/Chuckie from shutting
down the government to get what they want."How about looking at
both sides and say, to end the immature squabbling between selfish Politicians?
I would hope the elected folks are not able to prevent by law, governmental
shutdowns. Perpetually funded government - regardless of good intent - is a
very scary prospect to many of us. This would signify nearly complete loss of
control by the citizens of their government. There are many dreadful
consequences to this proposal that have not been addressed and probably not even
thought of by the politicians. Citizens need to think about this proposal and
the likely outcomes on down the road, and tell your elected federal politicians
that it is an idiotic idea.
"Obama shut the government down to force his failure of a healthcare system
on Americans. "Show me the GOP plan to replace the ACA. I'm
still waiting. Remember Trump said he had a plan that would be
cheaper, better and cover more Americans.The GOP has repeatedly attempted
to kill the ACA but dont even have a plan that they agree on.And Ted
Cruz put forth legislature that would impose term limits. Wanna bet that both R
and D will find reasons to vote that down? (or Mitch will refuse to bring it to
Isnt it ironic that Lee, who with Ted Cruz held America hostage, closed our
National Parks and caused an estimated 23 $billion damage to our economy is the
sponsor of this bill?Just the never ending show. I
wonder what game he is up to now? Maybe he realized that he and Cruz became the
target for such anger before. Maybe he has learned to get out of the way? To
lay low? Maybe?
One big problem with the current setup is that the executive and the legislature
blame each other and neither accepts responsibility. While the appropriations
process starts in the House, responsibility also lies in the Senate and in the
President. It is only common sense to have a continuing resolution to permit
programs and functions that are ongoing to continue to be funded at the
previously decided level until a new budget agreement can be reached. If the
sides involved want to hold their own salaries in abeyance until the impasse is
resolved, all well and good. When we have an impasse because of political
brinksmanship, many public servants are put in jeopardy and the nation as a
whole as well. If each party, Democrat and Republican, really desire the well -
being of our country, they will vote for this proposed bill. Then neither side
can hold the country hostage to politics.
@naive AmericanThe time to do it was when republicans controlled all
branches. It is true about the 60 vote in the senate but republicans could have
negotiated a deal with democrats in the senate. Now they have to do it in the
house and the senate.
@DN Subscriber;"Sen. Lee you are beyond wrong on this one."Wow! Common ground? Good job.
@Esquire"all of the shutdowns have been initiated by the Republicans.
Sorry to contradict your false narrative."Democrats shut down
the government a year ago by filibustering the budget vote in the Senate, they
demanded DACA reinstatement.@fitz"interestingly Obama (a
Democrat President), when he was President, shut down the federal government
back in 2013 for 16 days"Republicans shut down the government
over their demands that the ACA, which was already established law, be defunded.
@n8ive american"2013, Democrats were willing to fund 40
billion for a wall, but now balk at 6 billion. What changed?"What changed is that the 2013 bill was a comprehensive proposal that included
some things Democrats want and some things Republicans want. You know,
compromise. Democrats don't want a wall but they are willing to provide
funding for a wall in exchange for things they do want. Last year there were
talks about trading wall funding for DACA but that fell apart when more demands
were made like Trump wanting to end chain migration and reduce legal
I agree with this law. Requiring an increase in the debt AFTER approval of a
budget is stupid and allows the small-minded political parties to create
“emergencies,” then grandstand, while holding federal employees
hostage to their idiotic tantrums.The Federal Government is the
least important level of government. People shouldn’t expect from its
Riiight. I'm good with a Government Shutdown ONLY if this new bill tweaks
the wording and withholds YOUR pay and YOUR fellow Senators and Congress members
pay because you govern our hard earned tax dollars so poorly. I'm about
99.9% sure you'll all be able to come to a swift solution and conclusion to
all of the problems this country faces. Besides, this is OUR money you are all
messing with. It's not yours. It is OURS. So do the right thing. You know
No, a thousand times no!This would fix nothing, but it would prevent
the culprits in Congress from getting the blame they richly deserve when they
fail to do their job. Failure has become a habit for nearly a decade now,
resulting in the "continuing resolution" game being played, and then
"shutdowns". Automatic continuing resolutions are unacceptable!Congress must simply show up, work more than 23 days a week, take fewer
vacations, and hold the debates and make the tough votes to pass budgets and
appropriations bills by September 30. That fixes the problem instead of
providing them cover to dither endlessly.Remember, the fiscal year
used to start on July 1st, but in 1976 they changed the fiscal year to start
October 1st to allow more time to do their budgetary job. Instead
of giving cover to politicians who fail to do their job, they need to pass a law
that no member of congress shall be paid anything at all for any fiscal year
where they have not passed the appropriations bills on time. That might
motivate them.Sen. Lee you are beyond wrong on this one.
In the interest of all American Citizens, Congress should pass a bill stating
members of the Congress and President must complete the budget by 1 Oct every
two years. If they fail to do so, their next income check will be reduced by
50%, then another 50% until reaching zero. That would be a reasonable motivator,
and would not penalize Federal Government Employees.
This is really rich coming Senator Lee who along with Ted Cruz and others shut
down the government to destroy Obama Care. We, however, should be encouraged.
Maybe he has learned something.
"Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, has proposed the measure in every Congress since
being elected in 2010."===========A great idea and
something that should have passed easily IF there were enough honest legislators
to do something so intelligent and effective.Of course, were that
the case, a bill like this wouldn't be necessary in the first place. :o/
To Impartial: The reason is wasn't done when GOP controlled it
all is because it requires 60 votes to pass. GOP only had 51 members. That would
have required some Democrats to vote in favor as well. But we all know that
would never happen. To Esquire: Obama shut the government down
to force his failure of a healthcare system on Americans. 2013,
Democrats were willing to fund 40 billion for a wall, but now balk at 6 billion.
Esquire - Springville, UT - interestingly Obama (a Democrat President), when he
was President, shut down the federal government back in 2013 for 16 days or so
this fact has been mentioned a number of times in the last few weeks today,
In concept, I think this is a good idea. It will take away a destructive tool
relied on by Republicans since the Newt Gingrich era. However, Mike and his
fellow Republicans really should bring an end to the current shutdown.
It's time to take corrective action on Trump.@ lost in DC, all
of the shutdowns have been initiated by the Republicans. Sorry to contradict
your false narrative.
Like others, I'm concerned about this bill's ramifications on the
budget, however, forcing innocent people to live without pay crosses a line that
should never be crossed. I get some people really want a wall, and
others really don't, nevertheless, you need to find a way to fight for what
you believe in in ways that don't hurt innocent people.
Pretty hypocritical of Shutdown Mike, who, along with Ted Cruz held the
government hostage in their attempts to dismantle the ACA.
"Mexico can pay a one time amount of 5 to 10 Billion Dollars" Donald
Trump in an OP ED piece in the Washington Post. So where is the check?
@lost in DC;"2 - it would have prevented bill and BO and nancy/chuckie
from shutting down the government to get what they want."Ummm.
Trump and McConnell shutdown the government. Trump is on TV, Dec. 11, saying
it's "His shutdown", and "He's proud to own it". The
GOP controlled the Senate, House and White House for 2 years. If there was a
border crisis, why didn't they pass a border funding bill. The Senate
passed a spending bill, 100-0, and Trump didn't sign it, after Rush and Ann
told him not to. The shutdown happened before Dems took the House. But,
don't let facts get in the way of your position.
"Shutdowns are not a responsible way to govern," Lee said." Says the guy who almost single handedly (it was him and Cruz) shut down our
government. Republicans are always making laws to deal with problems that
they create. How about Lee, and his fellow GOP Senators, pass a veto proof
spending bill that Trump can't mess up?
@lost in DC"it would have prevented bill and BO and nancy/chuckie from
shutting down the government to get what they want."The shutdown
during the Obama administration was because the GOP wanted to defund the ACA.
With this anti-shutdown bill in place the continuing resolution status would be
one that maintains ACA funding.It would have stopped the Democrats
in the shutdown a year ago when they wanted DACA but that was one that Democrats
abandoned in 3 days so they already determined shutdowns aren't really
effective.And for this current shutdown the continuing resolution
status means no wall funding.
dems will naturally oppose it because:1 - it was proposed by the GOP2 - it would have prevented bill and BO and nancy/chuckie from shutting down
the government to get what they want.
I don't think it'll get passed but I think it's a great idea.
Holding people's jobs and services hostage for political points is pretty
heinous, no matter you political leanings.