Wow brutal smack down by the Rock
C'mon..........we are not in the "one and done".......or NBA farm
team........business. I watched the game last night. I didn't see anybody
not trying. At one time there were three freshmen (real student athletes) on
the floor with a JC transfer and a sophomore (something that Duke, Kansas,
Kentucky don't have). If you could do a better coaching job......then
apply for the position. If you don't like what you see......then stop
watching and turn in your tickets. As for me and my house.........Go Utes!
As a Ute fan I will accept getting no respect from the PAC 12. I will take it
any day over being a middle of team of the WCC.
Utah is young. Utah has talent. They will be even better next year.
Washington plays zone. Utah didn't handle the zone very well. Washington
is better than Utah right now. Utah is getting better. Utah has a good ways to
go. People who get paid for watching sports should know the situation this year
up on the Hill. Being a true fan who pays for my ticket, I take the good with
the bad nor am I blind. As for other schools in the State, I could care less.
They all have their problems.Good Utes.
P5 is a football connotation, not basketball. There are dozens of small catholic
schools who compete every year for the NCAA bids and would beat PAC12 teams like
ugly step children.With the exception of UCLA under the greatest
coach in history, and Arizona over the years, the PAC12 has never been a good
basketball conference. Basketball is an Eastern and mid western sport. Always
has been. They get the best players because those players play basketball from
the age of 6. We know the deal. Inner-city kids play hoops.Utah and
BYU have been pretty good over the years. But P5 is meaningless as a predictor
of basketball rankings.
@golfrute, If you think there was high player turnover with coach K,
you probably also remember Majerus don't you? He lost 1/2 of the players he
signed because he ran them off. He is probably the most destructive coach to
young men that has ever coached in the state of Utah. Success is sometimes
elusive. Unfortunately that era of Ute b-ball success was stained with the total
disregard for personal development. Even though I don't like Coach K very
much, he's better with the young men in his program. Hats off to the other
in state coaches like Utah State's new coach, Randy Ray and Dave Rose.
Looks like watching the Utes play last night rubbed off on Kuzma.
There is better attendance at women’s gymnastics because the U basketball
worf - McAllen, TXJan. 11, 2019 5:33 p.m.Remember when Ute fans
bragged of their PAC12 conference of champions. Mocked BYU! The
little brother? The big boys are in the PAC12!Well! The WCC is 10-7
against PAC 12 opponents this year. Who's the little brother now?-----You still are, you have 3 NCAA and 1 play-in in win nearly 25
years. SAD!We all agree PAC-12 is pathetic, including Utah, this
year. So why are you're doing victory laps for beating a bad conference?
I think Utah Utes Probably needs to actually play All The Utah teams to be able
to say who is the best brother and this year Utah State is the king
Why would a program keep a coach that hasn’t been to the NCAA Tourney in 3
years...makes 3 million a year (or whatever big number)...And has a
300 million dollar facilty as nice as anyone’s...Has boring
basketball...Spotty attendance because of poor recruiting..EtcNo BYU homer or Aggie...But from a business and success record this
product produced stinks IMO
"who's the little brother now"... LOL, the same one it's been
for the past 8 years. Why do you ask?
Utes are a team that has a LONG way to go but they do have some talent. Lots of
first year’s players and expect a good recruiting class next year. Losing
a shot blocking center to a broken foot didn’t help.Coach LK
needs to show the team improves as the year goes on and blend in the future
Utes. Next year the team should be competitive enough to be on the NCAA bubble.
Year after that is when they would expect to be pretty good. If not, it would
be time to look for a different coaching option.
With the state of affairs as they are, this just proves that the so called P5
schools aren't any better than other schools (except perhaps football?)
The P5 schools get paid big bucks because they have boasted about being so much
better than every one else. ESPN isn't getting their money's worth,
and they are finding out that the old saying "talk is cheap" can be very
expensive. There is nation wide talk about doing away with the P5 designation
and opening things up for all NCAA schools. If that happens, the P5 schools and
their huge salaries will be in serious trouble, and that includes Utah, with
their multi million dollar salaries. Even Utah and coach K are being
investigated about Kuzma payola, but that aside, coach K keeps recruiting
players, only to have them leave the program in bunches. Oh how I long for the
good old days!
@WorfMocking aside, Ute fans are thrilled to be in the conference. Name
another conference out West that a school would rather be in? A bad year for
the conference and the Utes. But that to won't last forever.
Remember when Ute fans bragged of their PAC12 conference of champions. Mocked BYU! The little brother? The big boys are in the PAC12!Well! The WCC is 10-7 against PAC 12 opponents this year. Who's
the little brother now?
The U has amazing facilities; top 10 basketball center, terrific arena and Coach
K makes $3M + per year. Somehow he can't figure out how to attack a
matchup zone defense. Washington made the Utes look nervous and
inexperienced.Several players a year leave the program and blind
fans say the departing players weren't a good fit. That's on Coach K.
If you offer a scholarship you'd better know who you're getting.
Granted, some level of player turnover is a part of college athletics, but
it's reached a crazy level under Coach K.I've been a
season ticket holder for years, and it's sad to see the program in its
Utah does tend to do better as the year continues, but that maybe because the
PAC is always overrated at the beginning of the year.The MWC maybe
the strongest basketball conference in the western USA this year. The PAC maybe
a close 2nd. Thanks to Gonzaga, and no one else, the WCC will beat the Big
Sky.It will be interesting to watch as it plays out. Wish all the
local teams well.
@ekute I couldn't agree more. We need to face harsh criticism if the U is
going to make the changes necessary to improve. Nothing is gained by making
fans feel better by masking the truth. I miss the days when the Huntsman center
was packed and the team was beating everyone in sight...with the exception of
Harsh but spot on and I welcome it. Our program and our conference need a real
change in direction...not a PR firm to paint ponies and rainbows. Keep it
coming. There's no place for apathy up on The Hill.
"They’ll have to do what they usually do: surprise some people.
Problem is, the act isn’t really a surprise." -- Brad Rock------------------How so?Despite turnover Utah has
finished #4, #4, #2 (AP 13), and #3 (AP 19) in the PAC-12 over the last 4
seasons. Coach K's has a history of teams improving as the season
progressed. This year they seemed to have talent to at-least be
competitive but instead they are absolutely awful and been thoroughly beaten
even by average teams.
There's no way around the fact that Pac-12 has been a major disappointment
this year, and the Utes are no exception. But it's weird that he starts
the article basically saying "the media shows every year they aren't
the greatest prognosticators", then disparages Washington's schedule by
citing where their opponents were picked BY THE VERY SAME MEDIA. You could
easily use KenPom ranking to show their victory over Texas A&M (KenPom #92,
3 spots ahead of BYU) wasn't that impressive. And by the way, Utah's
current ranking of #140 makes this season ticket holder say "Yikes!" No
postseason of any kind for the Utes this year. A crazy note: New
Mexico is even worse at #163 yet just blew the doors off of Nevada to end their
hopes of an undefeated season.