Not 'The Office': San Francisco McDonald's suffers scare after man brings dead raccoon inside. Here's why it matters

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  • MabelPines Pleasant Grove, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 1:00 p.m.

    @NeifyT because the health department is not on call, day or night, to come and help determine if someone is or is not a threat. That is a job for the police. In this case it was a potential threat to public health. Rabies tests take a good amount of time (sampling, getting it to a lab, this is probably all done during business hours.) It’s not like he brought a pet ferret with him. It was a dead animal. That is cause for suspicion. Any responsible business owner would call the cops immediately.

  • NeifyT Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 12:35 p.m.


    Only if there is a reasonable suspicion a crime is occurring. In this specific case; if the health department determined that the coon did have rabies... then that is reasonable suspicion that a crime may have occurred in which questioning the individual to determine if he knew the animal had rabies or if he understood the dangers of bringing a dead animal into a dining area would make sense.

    Again, all I ask for is "due process" be involved. And again, the article didn't even talk about why they might be afraid of a dead racoon; instead it was all about the "mental illness" of the person that they apparently feared; which really had nothing to do with it at all.

    If the dead animal was not dangerous, doesn't matter if the guy was copycatting some odd TV show at all; no crime was committed; hence, a stern warning from the health department as to why that is not a funny joke would be in order.... not calling the police and having them trying hard to find some charge for which they can lock him up on; because he is mentally ill.

  • MabelPines Pleasant Grove, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 11:04 a.m.

    "Another perfect example of the mentally ill being treated as criminals."

    What if he wasn't mentally ill? What if it was a YouTube prankster trying to imitate a tv show and cause problems (and potentially endanger public health)? What if there was genuine malicious intent? Shouldn't the police question the individual?

  • NeifyT Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 10:05 a.m.

    Another perfect example of the mentally ill being treated as criminals.

    I can see bringing the health department to check and make sure the coon doesn't have rabies; and for good measure sanitizing the dining area.

    But why get the police involved at all; and them trying to decide if they should lock that man up or not.

    And, then the "why it matters" section is all about the condition of the man, not why it matters that the dining room needed to be disinfected from the racoon. That entire section makes no sense at all. It should have been about potential bacteria or virus. It didn't even mention rabies once (but I know that is why it matters).

    But instead it goes off on "mental illness" as if the mental illness was the cause of concern, not the dead racoon.

    Proof that in the US (worse in Utah even) our culture treats mental illness as a crime!

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 9:35 a.m.

    "Here's why it matters"?

    We shouldn't have to be told 'why it matters'. A man wanders into a McD's with a dead raccoon in tow...that should ring alarm bells for most folks.

    I once went into a McDonalds in a slightly downmarket area of the strip in Vegas. Thankfully it's gone now. My wife and I were shopping next door at the cheap T shirt stores, and I had to make use of the loo. Among the many features of the facilities included the standing water on the floor, the lack of any functional plumbing fixtures, and the two young chaps snorting cocaine of the vanity countertop. They seemed not to be bothered by my presence.

    It mattered. I hope it would to most people who encountered such a situation, and they needn't be told why.