Worth mentioning:IF a reader who is drawn to this article/comments
is feeling suicidal, please -- please -- call 911 or get a ride immediately to
the ER. They are prepared and able to provide the help you need and
deserve.Please know that you have the strength to get through this
and you are not always going to feel as bad as you may feeling now.You are not alone in your pain and efforts to get better. Please stick
around -- the world needs and wants you.(speaking from 30+ years of
chronic depression, successfully managed/treated for most but not all of that
Depression can manifest differently in men and women. With me it is anger,
irritability and anxiety. Winter makes my depression much worse. Nothing lifts
my spirits more than a clear sunny day. I do believe altitude, diet and lack of
physical activity activity can contribute to depression. People often ask what
are you depressed about. There is no one answer to that question. Depression
is not about a life event as it is about a chemical imbalance.
I have found no matter how difficult it may be to acknowledge the truth it
always sets you free! Truth will deepen your humanity and the spirit pours into
the soul. Depression was a part of my grandfather... acknowledging his nervous
breakdown gave me courage to shore up my mental wellness young.
Good for you for addressing this, Jane. The article is insightful. I'm sure
the book is, too.
This Q&A makes me think of Robin Williams. One who was always happy go lucky
and seems very hyper and one that I always thought had a lot of energy and was
always staying busy and yet succumbed to suicide. I'm sure we
were all raised to always have the will to be self-sustained and be able to take
care of our problems and be able to face life's challenges. We build that
wall of machoness around us and the end result of that is self-shyness away from
seeking professional help. Seeking help from clinically trained professionals if
the need is detrimental to your health and well-being is not a sign of weakness.
@JRL in AZ,You ask a very important question. The answer I have
found in studying mental illness; is that it depends.Clinical
depression is a term given for a generic set of symptoms (called criteria); the
cause of which can be many things. Some of those causes can be "cured"
some only "treated indefinitely" some even go away on their own.
Sometimes treatment is successful enough that the "diagnosis" of
depression is no longer appropriate; even though the sufferer still has some
symptoms or must still daily manage the illness--like a diabetic with insulin
shots does.Also, it should be noted that and what the layman calls
"depression" is actually several different diagnoses found in the DSM.
One of which is Dysthymia (aka Chronic Depression, or Persistent Depressive
Disorder) which lasts for years and years; but another one only needs 2 weeks of
symptoms for a diagnosis which is why some people use the term "suffers
bouts of depression" meaning their depression is rather for shorter periods
of time, but they get depressed and then get better off and on over the span of
Thank you so much for opening up and sharing your experience with everyone.
Conversations like this are the only way things will ever change. The stigma has
been slowly fading but it's still very much there. I have heard many
comments in my ward that confirm to me that we still have a lot of work to do.
Comments that only drive people further away and isolate them, it's the
exact opposite of what they need when they are struggling. If you don't or
haven't known someone who has dealt with clinical depression or suicide
then I can almost guarantee you will at some point.
I find it interesting that the article says that she has overcome her clinical
depression. Is that possible? Mine is a constant presence. There is no
overcoming it - just dealing with it, everyday, non-stop, until I die. The best
I can do is medicate it, exercise, do counseling, etc., but it never goes away.
It is always there, waiting to come surging back the moment I let my guard down.
It can be tiring. But life is too grand and too beautiful, even with the
darkness at the edges, to give up the fight.
Exactly how was my comment off topic or disruptive. The topic is the stigma of
mental illness as per the article"It doesn’t matter if the
stigma of depression is self-induced or culturally imposed. Either way,
it’s unhealthy and unhelpful."I was pointing out that
while the author felt the stigma was more self-induced with those she
interviewed. My perspective is that the stigma is culturally imposed; by the
very fact that mental illness is treated criminally in so many ways, and was
pointing out as many ways as I could in the 1200 character limit.Sorry if you feel that pointing out the truth that our culture imposes the
stigma by way of calling mental illness criminal in nature as being
"disruptive." It just means that the Deseret News staff likes to
perpetuate the stigma as well. What is the point of having such articles on
mental illness if you won't allow the truth to be said!
I've had many and currently have several family members and friends who are
battling various forms of mental illness, almost always accompanied with
clinical depression. I know of eight who committed suicide.At the
depths of the "Great Recession" I'd lost almost 3/4ths of my net
worth and was at a low point in a long struggle with a chronically painful and
debilitating injury, all while failing in my year-long effort to find work after
an 8-year period of what I'd hoped was an early retirement. I began to
experience suicidal ideations. I even started formulating detailed plans on how
I should do it to have the least negative impact on my loved ones. It came as a
shocking surprise as I'd never had any such thoughts before.After 3-4 months of spiraling negativity I suddenly became aware that I had to
alter my train of thought if I was to live. I began to focus on people who I
knew had survived far worse trials than I'd ever had. From their example,
I gained strength and a resolve to fight on.It's been a long
slog back and I'm very grateful to have survived. Now, I'd like to be
an example of survival to help others in a similar pit of despair.You **can** make it!
Many solid studies connect gut health with depression. Work on the gut and you
will feel better--promise.
Thank you. It helps to know so many others are trying to understand and support.
"If you are clinically depressed, you are not going to fix it with work and