Guest opinion: Coal enters a new era in 2019

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  • Flipphone , 00
    Jan. 13, 2019 11:37 a.m.

    America needs every scours of energy available to provided constant power to Americans. This also requires that pipelines are allowed to be build.

  • liberal larry Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 11:37 a.m.

    Everyone realizes that we couldn't instantly shut down all coal fired power plants, but many people recognize the environmental effects of coal burning, and the heavily subsidized externalities of its use.

    Every time we build a net zero house, install a solar array, erect a wind turbine, or convert a coal fired plant to natural gas we are heading in the right direction!

    It's a shame we've allowed the special interests to turn the environment in a partisan political issue, and the use of straw man arguments are not contributing to the discussion!

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 11:01 a.m.

    What in Tucket - you have some misinformation in that post. For example, It doesn't cost $50 to charge a Tesla. Not even a small fraction of that number.

    The average electric car costs about 3.6 cents a mile in electrical cost. $50 would be enough electricity to drive 1,388.88 miles. The reality is it cost about $7.20 to fully charge a Tesla given you've drained the batteries and driven about 240 miles. A leaf full charge is much less than that... something like $3.24.

    But yes, there are some cool other technologies out there on the horizon. Time will tell.

    Coal on the other hand... even in China... say a year over year decrease in usage. They are still the worlds largest user/polluter... and south Asia (india) keeps adding capacity. There are still markets out there for Utah coal... it just will not be in the US for much longer.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 6:05 a.m.

    One word: Batteries.

    The vision for the 21st century is increasing use of renewables with battery storage. Tesla's solar and Powerwall battery systems are the model that most analysts see as the immediate future. In fact, as electric vehicle batteries are retired, those batteries are actually still quite useful for energy storage for buildings, and I've heard entrepreneurs are already using outmoded EV batteries for that very purpose.

    As more renewables are added to the grid, natural gas is THE ideal partner because of its flexibility in being rampped up and down as needed with renewables' variablity. Baseload power can be problematic as it cannot be easily increased or decreased at will, and so you have situations where too much electricity is on the system (e.g., renewables are pouring power onto the grid, but coal and nuclear can't be throttled back to accommodate all that marginal-cost free power), as in Texas occasionally, and you get negative power prices because the power can't be consumed quickly enough and the excess power has to be dumped on the open market that may not need it either.

    Batteries and other energy storage systems are the solution.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 11, 2019 12:54 a.m.

    Loose the power plants, you loose the western power grid. Solar and w8nd have there place but as of now they are not the may character. Or and by the way, the skies in Emery County are brilliant blue today. (Sic)

    Lose the power plants. Wind. May character?

    Oh, and by the way...the answer to your question? Natural gas.

  • high school fan Huntington, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 10:53 p.m.

    I get it that all who have opined so far do not like coal, which is fine. But what is your solution? Do you have one that really would work if coal ceased tomorrow? I didn’t think so.
    Do you realize what the consequences would be if both the Huntington and Hunter power plants went down? I’m waiting for an answer. Well I’ll tell you, you would cease to power in your existence unless you have a generator. No power, no food, no charging electric cars, do riding electric trains, no furnaces working,
    Loose the power plants, you loose the western power grid. Solar and w8nd have there place but as of now they are not the may character. Or and by the way, the skies in Emery County are brilliant blue today.

  • What in Tucket Provo, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 10:22 a.m.

    I guess the Chinese did not get the message that coal is dead. They build a coal power plant each week. One article said 30% of the pollution over LA is from China. Coal is still the least expensive and putting us dependent on wind and solar won't cut it. Coal plants should be required to scrub out nitrogen and sulfur emissions and particulates of course.
    As for electric cars those that feel hydrogen is the fuel of the future say hold on. The hydrogen system being developed by an Israeli company and Electriq-Global of Australia seems to have a hydrogen on demand system that does not require a big steel tank such as natural gas cars require.
    They claim that the car will have a range of over 600 miles vs Tesla as above, take 5 minutes to refuel, and cost $25 a tank full vs $50 for a charge.
    This system of course is not power generation, but could be a game changer for vehicles. The emission is H20.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 9:17 a.m.

    If you google this chap's name, the one who wrote it, you get a result "Terry Jarrett, author at Breitbart" among others. He's written a host of pro coal, anti environmental articles.

    It's not that he's not entitled to do so. What I ask, is why do these articles get so much traction here in this publication?

  • Thomas Jefferson Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 8:55 a.m.

    It sure was nice of the desnews to print this advertisement for coal.
    Question: Did you get paid for it or was this one pro bono?

    I particularly like how the industry shills like to pretend coal employment is so important. Never mind that the entire industry employs fewer people than Arby's. All while ignoring the huge environmental costs which the industry doesnt pay at all.

    And guess who trump has in charge of the EPA? A coal lobbyist. So much for 'draining the swamp'.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 8:01 a.m.

    "A hefty spate of regulations over the past decade saw coal plants close in record numbers."

    Yeah? The last 2 years regulations have been rolled back, even to allow continued contamination of rivers, streams and lakes. You know what closed some coal plants? The huge Chinese market that is moving past coal. They no longer want our coal and are working to clean up their air. Now, with tariffs, that market is closed for good. People are dying from coal pollution, especially in areas like the Wasatch front. Many coal miner jobs have been lost to automation. I can understand why the author wants to protect coal, but it's for money, not for the benefit of the public. Coal is being phased out, but it's a slow process, just like the horse and carriage. If I were working in a dying industry, I'd be spending nights on retraining.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 7:54 a.m.

    Some folks don't get it coal is dead.

    The idea of burning coal is primitive with what we now have available and what is coming.

    We aren't going back to whale oil either, these are energies and ideas from our past now.

    No amount of trump turning over our EPA to coal shills and harming the environment with mercury will bring it back.

    We may have to wait for grandpa to pass before America as a nation can start to catch up with the rest of the world with clean energy.

    After all we started it...and then Reagan happened, and the rest of the world kept improving while America caved to the hydrocarbon lobbyists.

  • ConservativeCommonTater Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 10, 2019 7:40 a.m.

    While reading this I was wondering what coal company this guy worked for. I wasn't disappointed in my skepticism when I got to the end of the advertisement.

    But, he's selling that "clean coal," not the old fashioned stuff that contributes heavily to global warming and air pollution.

    As we return to the golden days of yesteryear, maybe we should advocate for better buggy whips, spats, and hand cranked washing machines. They too were good in their day.