Well, I remember the “fall” of Richard Nixon and the whole Watergate
scandal; it was the scandal that turned me into a “news junkie.”
But let’s not forget that the story was handed to Bernstein and Woodward
by “Deep Throat” and did not come about by any extraordinary
journalism - it might have been done by any other group of skilled journalists.
I am appalled, however, by the recently revealed partisanship of these two men
who have shown themselves to be “Trump Haters.” In truth, as
journalists, we should not know what their political leanings should be, but
alas, we now know and subsequently they have lost their journalistic
impartiality and integrity.
IMO Woodward is a good journalist. He writes good books. I find them
interesting. They are very convincing, and based on what people are actually
saying to him. He does lots of interviews and research, and gets lots of dirt
on Presidents. He seems to have a way of getting people to talk to him and say
things they would not say anywhere else (and all the time knowing he's
going to write a book about it).He's not for one side/party.
He's written books exposing dirt on all Presidents since his book on
Watergate, and that includes Democrats (Clinton and Obama).Google
"Books by Bob Woodward"...---Fear (Trump)All the
President's Men (Nixon)The Final Days (Nixon)Plan of Attack
(Bush)Obama's Wars (Obama)The Price of Politics (Obama)Veil: The Secret Wars (Clinton)The Agenda (Clinton)Maestro
(Greenspan)The Choice (Clinton)Shadow (all 5 Presidents)He doesn't just target Democrats. He doesn't just target
Republicans. He has exposed EVERY President's dirt since Nixon, and
exposed anything secret or salacious said about them. At least he's
consistent. I respect him for that. He has integrity. Better than Chuck Todd.
Many Liberal politicians simply do not use the same standards of integrity when
judging fellow liberals then as they do when judging conservatives. A good
example are the recent Kavanaugh nomination hearings.
To Sportsfan123,I guess you missed the news last week that Manafort, the
Trump campaign chairman, gave poll results to an individual associated with
Russian intelligence during the campaign. Ya, I know, no collusion or
conspiracy between the campaign and the Russians. Move along, nothing to see
Interesting comments. The GOP treasures Trump's love of country and the
people. Oh wait. Only the people who believe he is a messiah. The people who
listen only to Fox News (if that). I have a friend. He is active LDS. He is a
lawyer. He believes that Mexicans are swarming over the border in their
thousands to rape, sell drugs, and some, he supposes, are good people. Yet when
we go to San Diego, we see no signs of those vicious hoards. My friend self
censors: he refuses to read anything he thinks might be "liberal".
Liberal is the devil incarnate. Most Trump "conservatives" think the
same way. None can even define "liberal" and "conservative".Trump is a certifiable malignant narcissist. His actions are reported
daily. His lies are counted by the Washington Post (who uncovered the Nixon
crimes). What I find interesting is that Trump's base doesn't read
"liberal" papers or listen to "liberal" news. They believe every
one of Trump's documented 7,000 lies. They are ignorant of the truth
because the "conservative" media simply does not report it. They report
propaganda, and spread Trump's certifiable lies.And they seem
to be indifferent to Trump's blunders in foreign policy. Sad.
Few if any New media have any integrity.. All are political ideological driven.
To "Marxist"Without capitalism there is no money for any
social programs that Christians provide. The money has to come from
somewhere.What is at odds is the socialist view of forced
contribution to charity and voluntary contribution to charity with money earned
No comments regarding the parallels of the nixon administration regarding
watergate, and the oblama administration?Nixon using the FBI to wire
tap democrats, the oblama adminstration using the fbi and the NSA to
electronically surveil the trump campaign by obtaining fisa warrants based on
unsubtantiated evidence against a former trump campaign advisor Carter Page in
congruence with the infamous steele dossier which has proven to be fake.Noone on the left consider's any of these fact's objectionable
when the democrats basically copied Nixon.Consider this, Carter Page
has not been and will not be indicted for being a russian spy, infact he is
suing the fed govt for defimation. Chrisopher Steele has gone on record stating
he cannot confirm the alligations put forth in his own dossier paid for by HRC.
Not one person has gone to jail for russian election interference, those who
have did so based on completely unrelated crimes not tied to russia. Mr Woodward is showing his own bias towards trump by not addressing these
issue's and people wonder why the msm is not trusted.If there
is evidence against trump then prove it, going after trump associates for dirt
@ The Real MaverickI did not vote for Trump. And I am not a radical
right wing person. I don't like his approach to things. But I do think
his position on issues, in general... but not all, is the best for our country.
(e.g. In spite of all the naysayers that a wall won't work, it does and
will... just as they do for prisons.)I also feel the media is very
bias with a liberal agenda overall. I challenge all liberals to view as much
Fox as CNN. And I challenge all conservatives to view as much CNN as Fox.Without doing this it is putting on the rose or blue colored glasses.
See what arguments each side have to make. Don't be blind followers.
The DN need to exercise trust and integrity too, by not censoring conservative
To "marxist " I don't think you understand Christianity.
Christianity and capitalism go hand in hand. Both require individuals to work
things out for themselves, and that they don't depend on the group for
salvation. Both have rewards for individual work. Christianity is about freedom
of choice, and so is capitalism.For example Galation 5:1 says
"Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and
be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage." Collectivism is bondage
where you can only do what the state sanctions. Capitalism is freedom where you
make it or not based on your own efforts.What is at odds with each
other are Christianity and government run Collectivism.
The Trump party's believe in alternative facts; and that truth isn't
truth, almost says it all in summing up the Trump party political thinking. It
is baffling why more people don't see through the deceptive thinking. And
why they choose to go along with faulty tactical political party leadership.
To "The Real Maverick" so you are saying that all of the actual studies
and research that have been done on bias in media are wrong? You are saying that
you have studied it and know more about it than the experts?To
"eastcoastcoug" but you should be concerned with bias. It is because of
bias in the media that the truth is lost or ignored. You won't get the
facts about a situation if the facts don't confirm the bias of the media.
@christoph "Watergate is an altar people worship at, they will never let it
go, and want to use it to bring down capitalism and Christianity. "Interesting combination you raise - "capitalism and Christianity."
These two are actually in opposition to each other as capitalism tends to drive
out fraternal and familial relationships on which Christianity thrives. Watergate and Trump are different by degree. The money sloshing around
Watergate was out of capital, but under Trump we have a wedding of American
capitalism with the Russian financial oligarchy. Fundamentalist Christians
don't pick up on this because their faith understands little of capitalism
and its evolution. We area all learning the hard way.
Watergate is an altar people worship at, they will never let it go, and want to
use it to bring down capitalism and Christianity. Forgive and move on. More
serious things going on in last 20 years.
He did?? Wow ...
This was a good dialogue to have in Utah with Mr. Woodward on Integrity and
honesty. It great to have Journalists protected. Having lived in many
countries and traveled to many others, their people including reporters are not
given the same protections as we have in the United States of America. Those that criticize our news agencies for their diligence in getting
the truth should be ashamed.Reporters in war and peace, at football
games or city parades climb into the trench to seek the truth.Today
as in Nixon’s day, it is critical to keep searching for the truth.Mr Woodward didn’t find it on his first attempt to get the truth
from or about Nixon. He continued to get hints and whispers from his sources,
as good investigators do. Thanks to people that seek truth is an
imperative for elected officials. Voters should care about the integrity and
honesty of their leaders at all levels.
The MSM refused to air president Obama’s speech when he rolled out DACA.
This was a real issue and he had real talking points that needed to be expressed
to the American people. But they refused to give him time. Donald
however, was given air time by all major news outlets to lie, rant, and not add
any further enlightenment to the wall issue. He’s clearly desperate and is
trying everything to appease his radical right wing critics. So when
people claim that the MSM is biased, just remember this. They’re full of
it. And no matter how far to the right the MSM goes, it’ll never satisfy
the radical right that empowers trump. They must always have an enemy to target
and demean. They’ll never credit the MSM for anything.
Journalism seems to be dead. Journalists seem to care and are preoccupied with
ratings and who is first to report it more than reporting the news accurately.
They are also advocating issues instead of reporting them. For example, the
separation of families at the border was conducted as business as usual during
the Obama Administration. Now that the Trump Administration continues that
policy, the media is blaming Trump. Where were they during this time? They were
lapdogs not watchdogs to Obama. To make matters worse, the initial pictures they
showed were taken during the Obama Administration. Whatever happened to checking
the sources and their facts before reporting? Report the facts and let the
public decide for themselves. That is missing.The media’s approval
ratings? And they expect us to trust them?
Intellectual honesty is swept aside by passion and emotion of preset opinions.
Integrity must be consistent and without over-reaching agendas. So many believe
they have a pass on being intellectually honest, of integrity, because they know
better and therefore their agenda is worth breaking all the rules to achieve.
@New to Utah, Biscuit, etc.I am less concerned about
'bias' and more concerned about learning the Truth. I've seen the
media get tough on all presidents when they've hedged on the facts.
That's their job - to challenge. I don't always like the way they do
it and some are better than others, but I want someone in there challenging our
politicians. My father always complained that the media was biased
against Nixon and then when the tapes exposed what a huge Liar he had been. I
felt betrayed. Nixon damaged the GOP and I learned it is better to have someone
removed from office than to have them lying.
Its remarkable. All you Republicans commenting about the bias of the liberal
press and not one kind word about the newsworthiness of Fox News and Friends.
Says a lot for your assessment of this article. NOT!
I think it’s cool that we Mormons have leaders like Todd, who have had
such varied life experiences. It helps our church maintain integrity and trust.
Pretty much all news media today seems very biased, unless your a Democrat . If
your a Democrat it seems unbiased, because the news media is telling you what
you agree with.
Honestly, Bob Woodward and the Washington Post have a half century track record
of leaning Democrat and liberal. He certainly makes valid points and I do read
articles from the Post. Right now I couldn't be more turned off by the
antics of President Trump and the similar if not more outrageous antics of
members of the media especially MSNBC and CNN but the Washington post also had
some pretty biased articles and has certainly lost some of my trust.
Mr. Woodward's admission is telling that "many people in the news media
have become emotionally unhinged about Trump, and particularly go on TV and show
their hand that they are not just reporters, neutral fact gatherers, but have
become advocates...." Searching for an objective journalist to
present the issues is not easy for anyone who is interested in factual
reporting. As in the last election, it becomes clearer that voting for Neither
is the better option.