Utah Gov. Gary Herbert's plan to cut sales tax comes with a price

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  • Hemlock Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 9, 2019 8:43 a.m.

    Broadening the tax base is essential. Tax payers have subsidized many non-essential services and that must stop. Leaving more money in the hands of Utahns will stimulate the economy and attract new businesses.

  • Fullypresent Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 10:26 p.m.

    With a surplus "over a billion dollars," we do not need to add any more taxes. It is good to have a rainy day fund. Part of having a well-managed budget. Wish the feds did the same thing. But, to have this large of a rainy day fund and want to dream of more taxes is a travesty and misuse of public funds and trust. Legislators and the governor need to be reminded that it is OUR money, not theirs. OUR hard earned tax dollars. If they want to do something stop raising taxes to pay for services to undocumented people. American citizens need to come first. We are living in a day and age where we almost have to apoligize for this. Not ok.

  • KLL Coug Visalia, CA
    Jan. 8, 2019 3:10 p.m.

    To have everyone pay their fair share we must eliminate, as best we can, flat tax rates and tax on the marginal utility curve. Hence, the need for a progressive income tax and the elimination of a sales tax to the best of our ability.

  • Rick for Truth Provo, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 2:58 p.m.

    Smoke and mirrors, the scam of tax shuffling has arrived. You know this only bring in more not less in tax revenue.

    Utah currently has a multimillion surplus of tax revenue, and all they can do is droll in finding new ways to spend it.

    Heave forbid they give it back to us. It’s our money, not theirs!

  • Ranch Here, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 2:30 p.m.

    Expand the tax base by 1) taxing churches and church properties and 2) removing the "charitable" deduction for donations to churches that do not go directly to helping the poor and needy. Club dues should not be deductible.

  • LoveLondon Murray, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 1:35 p.m.

    Herbert has raised taxes numerous times and people still don't get it. He supposedly decreased the income tax rate last legislative session, but that only happened because he signed into legislation that your rates on your property taxes can not be lowered for the next five years. So with rising home prices your property taxes will go up.

    I think this is another shell game. Our taxes overall will not go down with his latest proposal.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 11:28 a.m.

    Tax and spend Republicans, always looking for new ways to get into our wallets. When the recession comes, and it will, Herbert is insuring HIS coffers stay full. People won't be buying cars, boats, new clothes, etc.. But, we will still need haircuts, lawn services, emergency plumbers, electricians, etc. No. This is a very bad idea. Make Utah's government live within their means and stop giving away tens of millions to attract businesses that have billions of dollars. Stop over taxing citizens. Utah is getting worse than California. And we can't blame it on liberal Democrats.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 10:48 a.m.

    "is if we broaden the base, we have the ability to lower the rate and in so doing, everybody will pay less taxes."

    What a big lie. If you lower the tax rate, then broaden the tax base to cover the reduced rate, then we are all still paying the same amount in sales tax.

    Cut spending, with lower rates, rather than shifting the base. There is not one single tax, federal or state that is not ultimately bourn by the individual citizen.

  • Flipphone , 00
    Jan. 8, 2019 10:46 a.m.

    Once the State taxes all services and products then taxes rates will go up. NO this is NOT a good idea.

  • Steve Cottrell Centerville, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 10:15 a.m.

    There was a comment in the article about the income tax. All income tax money is used to fund our schools at the lowest level of any state in the nation. Do not cut the school funding, please.

  • search diligently Lehi, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 10:08 a.m.

    Dangerous. Once services in one sector are taxed, soon all services will be taxed. This is not good! We will end up paying more sales taxes.

  • Flipphone , 00
    Jan. 8, 2019 9:26 a.m.

    The only GOOD thing about sales taxes unlike income taxes, is that everyone pays the same amount.

  • T-money$$$ Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 9:15 a.m.

    Huge tax cuts to the lower class, moderate cuts to the middle. Keep the top 25% the same and triple the income tax rate for the the top 1% of earners. A progressive tax curve like what you see in Washington or California will do this state a lot of good.

  • Malihini Northern, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 8:52 a.m.

    $646 million in one-time surplus funds, $458 million in a rainy day fund, plus a projected surplus this year? No kidding the governor should be talking about tax cuts. Is this state trying to increase their profitability in order to get listed on the stock exchange or what?

    If this state is pulling in surplus funds then those funds should be returned to those who paid too much! They are a public non-profit entity which means if they tax too much, i.e., surplus, then it should be returned. Of course we should be talking about tax cuts.

    It's not a matter of people, "paying their fair share" but more an issue of the government taxing too much.

  • quackquack Park City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 7:58 a.m.

    Smoke and mirrors this is part 1 of a dastardly plan to tax all Internet sales. Herbert and his staff are trying to place a tax on everything Utahans buy on the internet. They'll send out letters with possible penalties to all well known online retailers stating if you make sales in Utah you will tax or Utah will litigate.

    We need a governor who will stop taxing its citizens to the brink of bankruptcy

  • MrMas Tucson, AZ
    Jan. 8, 2019 7:30 a.m.

    Normally, I bristle at the idea that they're going to wait for tax cuts. But I can feel good about the statement when they're setting money aside for the future. Would that the feds would follow their lead.

  • corsair4360 Logan, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 7:14 a.m.

    Another bait and switch politician game to get what he wants

  • emb Pleasant Grove, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 6:14 a.m.

    shell game

  • AT Pleasant Grove, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 6:01 a.m.

    So, yes, a recession is coming. It's way overdue. Discussions about moving taxes from one place to another don't impress me much - kind of like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. If our "leaders" (sorry, it's hard for me to type that and not fall off my chair laughing) were really leading, they'd recognize the platform is burning and they'd be in emergency mode planning for a significantly reduced state tax burden on a population that'll be struggling with real quality-of-life economic challenges.

  • Zabilde Riverdale, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 5:26 a.m.

    A "Declaining tax base" yet we are looking at a $1.2 BILLION dollar surpluss this year It can and should be argued that a tax cut is necessary because the Govt is already getting too much money. But the surplus proves the lie that the tax base is declining or too narrow.

    The article states that the proposed sales tax cut will cut revenue by $800 million, well that still leaves us with 400 million in surplus funds, and don't forget that we are no longer going to be able to avoid sales taxes on most internet purchases. That kicked in Jan 1 meaning a substantial broadening of the tax base.

    Yes, please finally cut taxes for once, reduce the excess money the state is taking out of our pockets a little. But don't try to just shift that theft to other expenses we have.

    Utah has a Surplus, no new taxes should be talked at all when we are generating surplusses every year. True Fiscal conservatives would seek to return that excess money to those who earned it.

  • Red Smith American Fork, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 5:21 a.m.

    Increase sales tax and end income tax.

    "Every gov't, in fact, is required to actually do real work within a budget." Then we wouldn't need tax increase.

  • Strider303 American Fork, UT
    Jan. 7, 2019 11:34 p.m.

    I do not favor "broadening the tax base" into taxing services. IN my opinion it is getting the tax hungry camel's nose into the people's tent.

    Haircuts are "services" so are dentist and doctor visits. Contractors and architects are "services". Your children's music lessons are services as are the kid who mows your lawn, shovels your walk, walks your dog or babysits your kids. You get the idea.

    Potentially any hired help is subject to Governor Herbert's plan to broaden his tax base. They will deny that they are not targeting what I have listed, for now but wait a while when we are used to paying 4% more for a haircut.

    Once we let these people levy taxes into the service arena they will want a bite of everything. It will be no better than a mob-run "protection" racket.

    I think you could consider paid parking a "service". So you cough up $15.00 to park your car at the airport, downtown, anywhere and the state will impose 4 per cent tax on the bill. And no additional service is provided for the increase.

    This is a wrong way to "cut taxes". Try cutting the budget, stopping tax breaks for corporations that rob the schools.

  • scrappy do DRAPER, UT
    Jan. 7, 2019 9:43 p.m.

    Expanding the tax base is smart

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    Jan. 7, 2019 7:16 p.m.

    "...Everybody is, in fact, required to pay their fair share."

    This is one of the defining themes of socialism. How about instead the government live within its means just like I have to do?