George Will: Today's Germany is the best Germany the world has seen

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  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 8:15 p.m.

    @UtahBlueDevil: "I really have no idea why conservatives hate the EU so much."

    What makes you think "conservatives" hate the EU? I don't hate it. It doesn't affect me at all except when I'm a tourist and then it seems much to my advantage. As you point out, there are great benefit to free trade, common defense, and other commonality. It looks a lot like our Union of States.

    And that is exactly where the problems arise. For all the benefits, there are costs.

    Unlike too many liberals, this conservative actually enjoys diversity. But real diversity of culture.

    Every community looking like NYC, or every neighborhood being mixed use with high density, isn't real diversity. I like that Boston "ain't NY." I like that Chicago, Vegas, and LA also have distinct cultures. I tire of those who want Utah to look anything like those other areas of the nation.

    So letting an outside group set my taxes or dictate what public behaviors my commnity must tolerate or even encourage offends me.

    People want some control over their own lives and their own communities. Federal over-reach in the US, and EU over-reach in its member countries seems to be the problem.

    Diversity == States Rights.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 1:15 p.m.

    2 bits said: "Malarkey. They know who they need to deal with in the USA. Many have already met with Trump or his Sec of State."

    Remember when trump tried his ridiculous "Rally Routine" in front of the U.N. and was laughed at out loud for his bragging and lying to people who see through him, who are not his hand selected sycophants.

    Yeah, that's a prime example of how world leaders see Donald.

    Listing people Trump has met isn't the same as those folks supporting him or even wanting to speak with him.

    Germany is not a fan of Donald, his antics seems to familiar and frightening to laugh off.

  • Freiheit Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 6:32 a.m.

    @2Bits: Just because Trump has "met" with various leaders is no indication that they trust him or his policies. For that matter, the same goes for various congressional leaders of both parties. A presidential statement, verbal or tweet, is only reliable until it is changed or repudiated.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 5:30 a.m.

    2Bits.... you obviously have done no business with Europe or the EU. I really have no idea why conservatives hate the EU so much. They feel threatened?

    Trump notoriously told the British that if they strike an exit trade deal with the EU that it would be difficult for the US to do a deal with the UK. What in the heck?

    The EU is actually the vision that many of the founding fathers had in mind with State primacy. In fact you still see many calls by conservatives to move more back in the direction of states rights.

    To the idea that the EU is run by unelected officials, its no different than any other paramilitary system. People vote for their political leaders. Political leaders then choose bureaucrats to lead the government. Representation at the EU is made by elected officials of their independent nations. Our own elections for President aren't direct votes.... we vote, delegates choose who they will cast their votes for.

    The good of the EU is there is one set up import/export laws. There is one standards for product safety. One standard for employee safety. For defense, the person you call is the same as before. That didn't change one bit.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 8, 2019 1:34 a.m.

    I'm hoping to make it there within the next couple years. I have more than enough airline reward miles for us to go.

    Whenever we're in Calgary my wife insists we go to 'the German store' which I'll not name, to get wurst and kipferl and spritzgebÄck, as well as coffee and many other of the basics we enjoy.

    In the mean time, I've got the Audi and my Grundig Majestic console radio to help me anticipate a visit to Germany. Nothing warms the music like German engineering and vacuum tubes decades old.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 7, 2019 11:58 a.m.

    RE: "@2bits. Leaders from all over the world now have the same questions want wanting an answer or policy from the United States"...
    Malarkey. They know who they need to deal with in the USA. Many have already met with Trump or his Sec of State.

    Google "World leaders President Trump has met so far"...

    Shinzo Abe
    PeÑa Nieto
    Pope Francis
    Hsien Loong
    Nguyen Xuan Phuc
    Ashraf Ghani
    Pablo Kuczynski
    King Abdullah
    Saad Hariri

    Google "List of international presidential trips made by Donald Trump" (WIkiPedia)...

    Some may not like him, but they sure know who to contact in an emergency, or to make a deal with the USA.

    America is good that way. You always know who you need to deal with. It's not Obama anymore... it's Trump, and the people in his State Dept. Even if they change over time.

    Leaders don't have the same question of who can make a deal for Europe when they are trying to make a foreign policy deal with America. We aren't a consortium of countries. We are one country.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Jan. 7, 2019 10:57 a.m.

    Leaders from all over the world now have the same questions want wanting an answer or policy from the United States. Do they tweet Donald, call Bolton or roast a pig for a dinner with Pompeo. One day our President declares troop pull outs or really, really great dialogue and lasting peace with North Korea. The next day somebody in our Dept. of Defense resigns in protests or our State Department contradicts the President. All our allies and past diplomats say America's lost it's stature and influence in the world. Germany is doing just fine, mostly due to its leadership and regional influence. America can't say the same.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 7, 2019 10:19 a.m.

    Henry Kissinger had a good point... when you have an emergency and need to call the leader of Europe... who do you call? Angela Merkel? Macron? SÁnchez? Mattarella? Who do you call?

    Or do you call none of the above... and need to call some unelected Globalist who represents the whole EU, like Jean-Claude Juncker today?

    Who can you make a deal with?

    Do you have to make a deal with all of them? Because they all want different things.

    It makes it very hard to work with Europe.

    It's like requiring other country's leaders to have to make a deal with every State's Governor before you can make a deal with the USA, and even then you have to make a deal with some unelected guy like Juncker who speaks for the nation as a whole (but isn't elected by the people).

    It's tough for our Sec of State to know who they have to talk to for sure when trying to make a deal with Europe. Who do you call? Merkel or Juncker? Or maybe even somebody else?

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 7, 2019 10:08 a.m.

    This is a great story that we can be proud of, and maybe our greatest achievement. Yes, after the World War II the United States led the allies in securing a lasting peace through the Marshall Plan, United Nation programs, NATO alliances and establishing democratic rule in many countries including Japan.

    As a result Europe is at peace, like never before, and with NATO the United States and our allies can maintain a strong influence over the entire World.

  • Gildas LOGAN, UT
    Jan. 7, 2019 7:59 a.m.

    On the other hand there are many who are sure that the EU is just the latest attempt to control Europe by guys like Juncker and the other unelected and all powerful European Commission. Gratefully the people of Germany no longer support Merkel and the people of Britain have rejected both May and the EU. Time to leave! Bye bye!

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Jan. 7, 2019 6:46 a.m.

    Loved working there for four years..... would do so again in a heart beat.

  • Freiheit Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 7, 2019 6:33 a.m.

    Germany seems to have learned something from its past. Would that every country could.

  • Irony Guy Bountiful, Utah
    Jan. 6, 2019 1:23 p.m.

    All this and bratwurst too. Germany is truly a wonderful place.