Guest opinion: We are all complicit in our country's broken immigration system

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  • LindaC , 00
    Jan. 10, 2019 11:15 a.m.

    We wont be complicit anymore when we help our Border officers curtail immigration with. A Wall. Stop kicking this can. That’s the issue. Build a Wall and secure our nations laws and border.

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    Jan. 9, 2019 6:55 a.m.

    Ultra Bob, the majority rules in our representative democracy because voters outnumber owners and businessmen. More votes = election winner.
    The point is whether or not we, the majority, care enough to do our own thinking.

  • Janahana , 00
    Jan. 5, 2019 9:05 p.m.

    I agree that we are all responsible in the sense that any mature individual takes responsibility whether in his family or as citizens. And the positive attitude and action suggested in this editoraial is stating, “we are part of the solution, and not compounding the problem by blaming any or everyone else.” That way of thinking is the only way I can see light at the end of a tunnel.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Jan. 5, 2019 7:27 p.m.

    The complicit factor is that we all seem to enjoy cheaper construction costs, cheaper lodging on vacation, cheaper fruits and vegetables. Alas, illegal immigration and illegal immigrants do bring some problems, but they also make things less expensive. We have to decide how much inflation we can endure. I would suggest securing the border must come with some pathway to citizenship for those law-abiding immigrants (I understand the initial act of illegal immigration is against the law but referring to how these immigrants live in regards to the other laws). Then we need businesses to get above board on wages and verifying the status of their workers.

  • Schow01 Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 5, 2019 2:49 p.m.

    This option article is too reasonable—not enough dogmatism. In all seriousness, the central point is accurate: politicians profit from using immigration as a wedge issue. Rather, they should be rewarded for a comprehensive, compromise-based solution and punished by voters for failing to provide that. The President, who claims to have mastered “the art of the deal” surely must understand that to get something, he must give something. I dare him to initiate real immigration reform. Otherwise, I will be forced to resort to more sarcasm.

  • Verk Saratoga Springs, UT
    Jan. 5, 2019 12:58 p.m.

    "The problem is not so much that our congressional representatives don’t have ideas about how to move forward, it’s that we as citizens have not created the incentive for them to follow through. But that can be fixed. People on all sides of the issue will need to make some concessions, but with a little optimism and a lot of determination, we can do this. Let’s claim our moral authority as citizens of this government of the people, by the people, and for the people. Let’s let our voices be heard through op-eds and letters to the editor, by attending town hall meetings and by calling our elected representatives every single day until this is resolved."

    Thank you so much for some needed lwvel-headed discussion! It's time to get out of the extremes and take the perspective of one another. Where has the empathy gone?

  • Eowyn77 Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 5, 2019 12:05 p.m.

    I read once that politicians are masters at catching the political winds to fill their sails. The voters are the wind, and politicians won't change direction on this or any issue until we as an electorate do. I think this article is spot on, and I'll be calling my Congressmen on Monday.

  • BarVincent Visalia, CA
    Jan. 5, 2019 12:27 a.m.

    Hutterite--
    "No, we aren't all complicit in..."
    The "we" refers to all of us as citizens, not to any one individual. We many not have chosen the conductor(s) but we are all along for the ride. Voting may be optional but ridership is not.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Jan. 4, 2019 3:09 p.m.

    I don't know that "we" are all complicit. Both political parties certainly are. But we common folks are complicit only in re-electing the same lifetime politicians that caused the problem.

    Since the Reagain amnesty of the late 80s which was the one last amnesty to be followed by real security, we've had a dozen additional amnesties with no meaningful improvements in border security or interior enforcement. Indeed, any real efforts at improved interior enforcement are met with increased brazeness of "sanctuary cities".

    Both blue collar union democrats and rank-and-file republicans want meaningful border security and interior enforcement. It is the elites in both parties who like the status quo. Cheap and easily abused labor for the crony capitalists on the right; A perpetual underclass to support the welfare state on the left.

    Build the wall. Give us 100% e-verify with coordination with the SSA. 6 year olds rarely apply for construction jobs. Impose real penalties on companies and their human officers who hire illegal aliens. Deport illegal aliens who commit any crime including driving without insurance. End birthright citizenship.

    Then we can talk about immigration reform.

  • Vermonter Plymouth, MI
    Jan. 4, 2019 12:12 p.m.

    I really don’t care who is to blame. I care about fixing the broken immigration system.

    The not-so-secret secret is that Trump will give Democrats almost everything they want on immigration if they give him at least part of the money he wants for a border wall or border fence.

    The real (and closely guarded) secret is that the current Democratic Party Leadership doesn’t really want to change anything about the current immigration system because they think the issue works to their political advantage.

  • Redshirt1701 Deep Space 9, Ut
    Jan. 4, 2019 10:08 a.m.

    In other words, the problem with Immigration is Government. There is no incentive for a government office to improve efficiency. There is incentive for building an empire and to get as many people working on mundane tasks as possible.

    Yes, if you want to fix the system streamline it and get things flowing again. At the same time we do need the wall to stop the illegal immigrants from coming in, we need to secure our borders.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    Jan. 4, 2019 9:13 a.m.

    @Ultra Bob

    What makes it democratic is that our representatives are elected.

    @Hutterite

    Yeah, when someone says we are all to blame, I'm inclined to invite them to speak for themselves. They don't know anything about me or the efforts I've made.

  • Thomas Jefferson Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 4, 2019 8:37 a.m.

    Mexico is going to pay for the wall. That is what trump promised and we all know he is a straight shooting truth teller so I assume the check is just stuck in the mail.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Jan. 4, 2019 12:43 a.m.

    No, we aren't all complicit in 'Americas broken immigration system'. I didn't have anything to do with it, and nobody among our elected 'leaders' has ever done much with it that I'd approve of. Immigration is like a lot of things. Whatever has come of it and is apparently done in our name is something we are simply stuck with.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 3, 2019 6:08 p.m.

    There is no such thing as a “representative democracy”. In a “democracy” the majority rules, in a “representative” form of government a minority rules. America is a “representative republic” ruled by a minority made up of owners and businessmen. All of the political conflict is just the competition of business owners and managers.