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  • Elkhorn Loveland, CO
    Dec. 29, 2018 5:16 p.m.

    Navelvet

    CFP Rankings w/ points in reverse order
    1 Alabama - 25
    2 Clemson - 24
    3 Notre Dame - 23
    4 Oklahoma - 22
    5 Georgia - 21
    6 Ohio State - 20
    7 Michigan - 19
    8 UCF - 18
    9 Washington - 17
    10 Florida - 16
    11 LSU - 15
    12 Penn State - 14
    13 Washington State - 13
    14 Kentucky - 12
    15 Texas - 11
    16 West Virginia - 10
    17 Utah - 9
    18 Mississippi State - 8
    19 Texas A&M - 7
    20 Syracuse - 6
    21 Fresno State - 5
    22 Northwestern - 4
    23 Missouri - 3
    24 Iowa State - 2
    25 Boise State - 1

    SEC - 107
    B1G - 63
    B12 - 45
    P12 - 39
    ACC - 30
    AAC - 18
    MWC - 6

    Top to bottom the PAC 12 may be slightly better than the ACC, but conferences are judged by their best teams, and in that respect, Clemson dwarfs the PAC 12.

    When was the last time a PAC 12 team played in the CFP championship game?

    That said, the PAC 12 South is a strong contender for weakest P5 division.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 29, 2018 2:02 p.m.

    poyman:

    "I have a huge smile on my face for U characterizing the weakest P5 Conference in America as the 'Conference of Champions'."

    That sounded made up. ESPN and Sagarin both have the ACC as the weakest P5 conference in America. Who gave the "weakest P5 conference" label to the Pac-12? That's a serious question, and one that requires a citation. Otherwise, you're admitting that you'd lied, because I'd posted ESPN's and Sagarin's conference ranking before. So you KNEW it was the ACC.

    Your move little bro...

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 29, 2018 1:09 p.m.

    poyman:

    "I have a huge smile on my face for U characterizing the weakest P5 Conference in America as the 'Conference of Champions'."

    That sounded made up. ESPN and Sagarin both have the ACC as the weakest P5 conference in America. Who gave the "weakest P5 conference" label to the Pac-12? That's a serious question, and one that requires a citation. Otherwise, you're admitting that you'd lied, because I'd posted ESPN's and Sagarin's conference ranking before. So you KNEW it was the ACC.

    Your move little bro...

  • Road Runner Cedar City, UT
    Dec. 27, 2018 10:30 a.m.

    wacpaddled

    "You are blaming the alleged downfall of the PAC12 on UT and CO?
    Whatever. Its more than football. And regardless of your ambitions to verbally attempt to sink it. The PAC12 is still the Conference of Champions. What is weak about winning titles in other sports?"

    The PAC 12 can only refer to itself as the "Conference of Champions" because of its success in the non-revenue sports.

    The very sports in which BYU owns Utah.

    The current Director's Cup Standings illustrate BYU's dominance

    #5 BYU - 270.0 points, Top 10 finishes (#2, #3, #7) in THREE sports
    #81 Utah - 50.0 points, ZERO Top 10 finishes

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Dec. 27, 2018 12:01 a.m.

    poyman - Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 26, 2018 8:46 p.m.
    @wacky

    "...Interesting. Lincoln City is not very far from Corvallis. Home of the Oregon State Beavers.
    Fun to ready your PAC12 envy. You would give anything for BYU to be in OSUs position."

    *************

    The Conference took a dive however when they invited Colorado and then in desperation added utah... Since that time the Conference has become the weakest of the 5 elite P5 Conferences. They are anything but the "Conference of Champions" for all of the reasons that I have listed below.
    _____

    You are blaming the alleged downfall of the PAC12 on UT and CO?
    Whatever. Its more than football. And regardless of your ambitions to verbally attempt to sink it. The PAC12 is still the Conference of Champions. What is weak about winning titles in other sports?

    It's not UT, CO, AZ, ASU, UCLA, USC, Stan, Cal OR, OSU, UW or WSUs fault that BYU has sealed its own demise going independent.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 26, 2018 11:22 p.m.

    poyman:

    "I have a huge smile on my face for U characterizing the weakest P5 Conference in America as the 'Conference of Champions'."

    That sounded made up. ESPN and Sagarin both have the ACC as the weakest P5 conference in America. Who gave the "weakest P5 conference" label to the Pac-12? That's a serious question, and one that requires a citation. Otherwise, you're admitting that you'd lied, because I'd posted ESPN's and Sagarin's conference ranking before. So you KNEW it was the ACC.

    Your move little bro...

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 26, 2018 8:46 p.m.

    @wacky

    "...Interesting. Lincoln City is not very far from Corvallis. Home of the Oregon State Beavers.
    Fun to ready your PAC12 envy. You would give anything for BYU to be in OSUs position."

    *************

    I live in Draper now... Have for 4 years. I grew up in Vancouver, WA and received my MBA at the UW (did my undergrad at BYU)... So I was born and raised in PAC country (whether it was 8, 10, or 12)... I really liked the PAC and the PAC 10... Back then they were truly the Conference of Champions... Terry Baker from OSU, Dan Fouts U of O, Warren Moon UW... that was all good stuff and they were a tough conference. Arizona and ASU proved to be very good additions at the time (although I hated to see them leave the WAC)... The Conference took a dive however when they invited Colorado and then in desperation added utah... Since that time the Conference has become the weakest of the 5 elite P5 Conferences. They are anything but the "Conference of Champions" for all of the reasons that I have listed below.

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    Dec. 26, 2018 8:23 p.m.

    wacpaddled

    yawn

    How many times has Utah beaten Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, Ole Miss, Miss St, Mich St, and Wisconsin?

    What is the highest ranked bowl opponent Utah has beaten since joining the PAC 12?

    For all of your talk, Utah has accomplished practically nothing out of conference and precious little in conference since joining the PAC 12.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Dec. 26, 2018 7:59 p.m.

    poyman - Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 25, 2018 3:55 p.m.
    @navel

    "But by MY recollection, the indy-WACers have gone 5-13 (not 5-12) vs. the Pac-12..."

    Now after saying all of this I have a huge smile on my face for U characterizing the weakest P5 Conference in America as the "Conference of Champions". What a joke. Particularly coming from a fan of a team that plays in the weakest P5 Division in America.

    The big bad pac12 has only had 2 entry's into the 4 team Playoffs out of 20 opportunities over 5 years (worst in P5). And, the pac12 south has never had an entry and have only won the conference once in the past 10 years.
    _____

    Interesting. Lincoln City is not very far from Corvallis. Home of the Oregon State Beavers.
    Fun to ready your PAC12 envy. You would give anything for BYU to be in OSUs position.

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    Dec. 26, 2018 7:54 p.m.

    utemythology

    “Where do you want your margin of defeat trophy mailed to?”

    Just store them next to your SOS trophies.

    It’s laughable how obsessed Utah fans are with trying to prove superiority with such razor thin margins of victory.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 26, 2018 2:07 p.m.

    poyman - Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 24, 2018 10:52 p.m.
    @mythology

    "Where do you want your margin of defeat trophy mailed to?"
    ***********

    Truth doesn't need trophies but if they were given out then U would have has many trophies for that as you do for National Championships.

    Despite your scoffing "Margins" do matter (ask Sagarin and KenPom... in fact ask the P5 folks)... and the margins of victory for the utes over the Cougs across the past 7 years is anything but impressive... Margins are reflective of power for both the victor and the defeated. The Lucky streak that the utes have enjoyed have made me want to consult Whit on which Keno and Lottery numbers I should be picking next trip to Vegas.

    -----------

    Truth doesn't need trophies? Did you plagiarize that from a fortune cookie?

    Do you want truth?
    You know what's more impressive than margin of victory:

    * AP Top 25: Utah 4 (BYU 0)
    * CFP Rankings: 19 (0)
    * Wins vs Top 25: 6 (1)
    * Bowl Wins: 6 (4)
    * Rivalry Wins: 8 (0)

    What's not impressive?

    * Airport Celebrations: Utah 0 (BYU 2)
    * Margin of Defeat Trophies: Utah 0 (BYU 8)

    Good luck next year, 7-5 including your 9th straight margin of defeat trophy.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 26, 2018 1:53 p.m.

    poyman - Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 24, 2018 11:41 p.m.
    @utemythology

    "...You mean vs PAC-10? Who did you beat?"

    ***
    You wish to make light of BYU's 7-3 record against PAC schools over the 5 years following your 8 cherry picked years? Here's the detail...

    Actual Facts: Take away utah and BYU was 5-5

    ----------------

    That is called "actual spin".

    FACT: BYU can't take away PAC-12 Utah loses, from your "PAC-12 record".

    The 8 cherry picked years equals full sample size, aka all PAC-12 seasons.

    Your 5 cherry picked years from 2010-2006 proves nothing. There's a reason why you stopped at 2006 and not at 2000.

    Because 2001-2005 BYU is 1-5 which means 8-8 50%.

    Over same period 2000-20010, Utah 8-8 50%.

    The difference, Utah has 2 BCS wins and overall vs P5 Utah had the highest winning percentage, with TCU and Boise the next two highest.

    BYU had a losing record. Which explains why BYU was never able to bust the BCS.

    BYU is mediocre at best, you sit 3rd in State for a reason. Enjoy the view because it won't be changing anytime soon.

  • 65TossPowerTrap Salmon, ID
    Dec. 26, 2018 10:50 a.m.

    Wow - Utah fans are really having a hard time coping with this BYU win.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 25, 2018 3:55 p.m.

    @navel

    "But by MY recollection, the indy-WACers have gone 5-13 (not 5-12) vs. the Pac-12..."

    I went back and double checked and you are right. BYU did have 13 losses during the past 8 years while the Cougs program has been down. I missed UCLA beating BYU 17-14 in 2016 with Josh Rosen at QB (a future First Round Draft pick of the AZ Cardinals... In fact, he starts for them today). And, unlike the other non utah 5 losses that BYU had, the utes actually beat the Bruins in 2016 (52-45) with UCLA having to use their back-up QB due to Rosen going down 2 weeks earlier against ASU. UCLA began the year 3-2 (including an OT loss to TAM) with Rosen as QB, they finished the year 1-6 with their back-up (Fafaul) at QB.

    Now after saying all of this I have a huge smile on my face for U characterizing the weakest P5 Conference in America as the "Conference of Champions". What a joke. Particularly coming from a fan of a team that plays in the weakest P5 Division in America.

    The big bad pac12 has only had 2 entry's into the 4 team Playoffs out of 20 opportunities over 5 years (worst in P5). And, the pac12 south has never had an entry and have only won the conference once in the past 10 years.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 25, 2018 1:24 p.m.

    @utemythology

    I mistakenly said in one of my last two posts... "especially when you consider that the utes didn't have a victory over any of the teams that BYU lost to in those respective seasons... They went 0-3 with 2 no plays."

    I actually forgot that U lost to UW twice in 2018 which means that against the 5 losses that BYU had in the last 8 years the utes had a record of 0-4 against those same teams with 2 teams that they did not play in the year that BYU lost to them (UW in 2013 and OSU in 2012).

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 25, 2018 1:02 p.m.

    poyman:

    "Actual Facts: Take away utah and BYU was 5-5..."

    Fail! The "Actual Facts" are, you DON'T get to "take away Utah"! Since Utah has been a member of the Pac-12 since 2011, ALL of your losses to Utah since then COUNT! Ergo, your TRUE record vs. the Pac-12 since leaving the MWC to play WAC football, is 5-13 (not 5-12). And your TRUE record vs. the "Conference of Champions" since the dawn of this millennium is 13-21. OWN it!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 25, 2018 12:59 p.m.

    poyman:

    poyman:

    "...the next 5 years following those 8 discussed above BYU went 7-3 against the big bad pac..."

    But by MY recollection, the indy-WACers have gone 5-13 (not 5-12) vs. the Pac-12:

    Wins:
    2011 - Ore St (3-9)
    2012 - Wash St (3-9)
    2014 - Cal (5-7)
    2016 - Ariz (3-9)
    2018 - Ariz (5-7)

    Losses:
    2011 - Utah (8-5)
    2012 - Utah (5-7), Ore St (9-4)
    2013 - Utah (5-7), UWa (9-4)
    2015 - UCLA (8-5), Utah (10-3)
    2016 - Utah (9-4), UCLA (4-8)
    2017 - Utah (7-6)
    2018 - Cal (7-5), UWa (10-3), Utah (9-4)

    So that's 5-13 (.278), with a 5-3 (.625) record vs. Pac-12 teams with a losing record, and an 0-13 (.000) vs. those with a winning one.

    So so what that you went 7-3 the 5-yrs before that? What about the 5-yrs before THAT Capt. Cherrypicker? Didn't you go 1-5 (.167)? So essentially, in THIS century, you guys are 13-21 (.382)! Looks like we really ARE the "big bad pac" after all, dontcha think? Especially considering the fact that you all like to call yourselves Utah St's "big brother" when THEY have a better record against YOU guys (.438) than YOU guys have against the Pac-12!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    Dec. 25, 2018 1:00 p.m.

    Some people really need to find a new hobby. I'm the first to admit I like messing with cUte fans on articles, but some cUte trolls probably couldn't survive without cutting into a program they've "moved on from" and beating their chests over a wannabe relevant, regional program no one outside of Utah or cUte fans gives two shakes about.

    It's both sad and hilarious, really. I think all of us, cUte haters and Y-bashers alike need to stop pretending that the accomplishments of athletes that shed blood, sweat, and tears somehow adds any substance to our own lives and accomplishments, or means anything in the measure of who we are as people.

    Utah isn't Pac12 because of anything any of U have accomplished, just as UGA isn't an elite program, or BYU a floundering program because of anything UGA or Y fans have done.

    Bravado over one's own accomplishments is arrogance, but bravado over someone else's is just foolishness. Maybe we'd all do well to remember that.

    Merry Christmas!

    Go Dawgs, get some sugar!
    Go Utes, bring home a holiday trophy
    And God bless us every one

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 25, 2018 12:53 a.m.

    @utemythology

    Misc Responses:

    1) You said: "BYU lost 3 times to Utah by 1 point? No, 1 game and that's because Utah had 6 turnovers."

    Correct Answer: During the utes 8 win run there are 2 one point margins (not 1 and not 3)... The first was in 2010 at the beginning of utah's run... score utes 17- Cougs 16 (BYU missed a game winning FG as time ran out). The second was when BYU came to RES and the Defense caused the utes to cough up the ball 6 times but the only TO that immediately resulted in a TD (7 points) was a Pick 6 by utah to begin the game. Then, as time ran out, Hill was not able to complete a 2 point conversion that would have given the Cougs a one point victory.

    ***

    2) You wrote: "Nope, over the 8 years BYU has been OWNED by the PAC-12, 5 wins vs bottom feeders."

    Actual Facts: Take away utah and BYU was 5-5 with 2 Double Digit wins and 3 double digit losses. And, as pointed out, the teams that BYU lost to either had "no-plays against U or the utes lost to them as well.

    ***

    3) You wrote: "Good luck beating your first PAC-12 6+ win team in 9 years."

    Response: As pointed out, the 5 years before your cherry picking, BYU's 4 of 7 wins were against 6+ win teams.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 24, 2018 11:41 p.m.

    @utemythology

    "...You mean vs PAC-10? Who did you beat?"

    ***
    You wish to make light of BYU's 7-3 record against PAC schools over the 5 years following your 8 cherry picked years? Here's the detail:

    In 2010, BYU beat UW 23-17. UW went 7-6 that year with wins over Syracuse, OSU, UCLA, #18 USC, Cal, WSU and #16 Neb.

    In 2009, BYU beat OSU. OSU went 8-5 that year with wins over ASU, Stan, UCLA, #23 Cal, UW, and WSU.

    In 2008, BYU beat both UW and UCLA. UW had a bad year (0-12). UCLA also had a tough year (4-8) but managed wins over #18 Tennessee, WSU, Stan, and UW. They lost to BYU 0-59.

    In 2007, BYU beat AZ and UCLA again. AZ went 5-7 with wins over WSU, UW, UCLA and #2 Oregon. UCLA went 6-7 with wins over Stanford, UW, OSU, #10 Cal, and #9 Oregon. BYU and UCLA played twice that yearwith UCLA winning the first game and BYU winning the Bowl game.

    In 2006, BYU beat Oregon in the LV Bowl 38-8. Oregon finished 7-6 with wins over Stanford, #11 Oklahoma, ASU, UCLA and UW.

    BYU lost 2 games in this time period to AZ... In 2008 AZ was 8-5 with wins over UCLA, UW #25 Cal, WSU and ASU. Also in 2006 when they finished 6-6 and beat unranked BYU 16-13.

    Objectivity helps credibility.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 24, 2018 10:52 p.m.

    @mythology

    "Where do you want your margin of defeat trophy mailed to?"
    ***********

    Truth doesn't need trophies but if they were given out then U would have has many trophies for that as you do for National Championships.

    Despite your scoffing "Margins" do matter (ask Sagarin and KenPom... in fact ask the P5 folks)... and the margins of victory for the utes over the Cougs across the past 7 years is anything but impressive... Margins are reflective of power for both the victor and the defeated. The Lucky streak that the utes have enjoyed have made me want to consult Whit on which Keno and Lottery numbers I should be picking next trip to Vegas.

    As usual, you don't want to state the facts when you throw out your comments... The 8 years that you so frequently like to cherry pick had BYU 5-12... Without the lucky streak of utah the count would have been 5-5 and as I have stipulated, BYU has had a pretty mediocre run during this period... But 5-5? Lol... That's just not chest thumping material... especially when you consider that the utes didn't have a victory over any of the teams that BYU lost to in those respective seasons... They went 0-3 with 2 no plays.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 24, 2018 4:39 p.m.

    @poyman

    But you should have continued because the next 5 years following those 8 discussed above BYU went 7-3 against the big bad pac with 2 wins over UW, 2 over UCLA, and one each over OSU, Uof O, and AZ. The 3 losses came against UCLA and 2 against AZ.

    Seems to me that if the pac12 is as big and as bad as you represent they would have done a much better job against a mediocre G5 Indy like BYU.

    -----------

    You mean vs PAC-10? Who did you beat?

    BYU 7 Wins vs PAC-10 (4 of 7 vs bottom feeders):
    0-12 and 7-6 UW
    8-5 OSU
    4-8 and 6-7 UCLA
    5-7 Arizona
    7-6 Oregon

    Loses:
    8-5 Arizona exposed then ranked #16 BYU (finished #25)
    6-7 UCLA exposed #14 BYU
    6-6 Arizona exposed #16 BYU

    It seems big bad and ranked BYU got exposed by mediocre P10 teams.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 24, 2018 4:17 p.m.

    poyman - Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 23, 2018 11:48 p.m.
    @utemythology

    * BYU vs P5 laughing stock
    North: 3-3 (wins 3-9, 3-9, 5-7)
    South: 2-9 (wins 3-9, 5-7)
    *******
    First , let me bring more light on your ridiculous spin.

    Over the past 8 years it is true that BYU has under-performed. They are in fact 5-12 during that period. However, 7 of those losses were to the utes and 6 of those 7 were by a TD or less and 3 of them were 1 point losses.

    -----------------

    Where do you want your margin of defeat trophy mailed to?

    Nope, over the 8 years BYU has been OWNED by the PAC-12, 5 wins vs bottom feeders.

    BYU lost 3 times to Utah by 1 point? No, 1 game and that's because Utah had 6 turnovers.

    Let me help you, "percentages" are not ridicules spin. Your excuses for margin of defeat is spin, 3 of 5 BYU wins were single digits:

    28-23 vs 5-7 Arizona +5
    16-18 vs 3-9 Arizona +2 (BYU only won because you had a timeout)
    42-35 vs 5-7 Cal + 7

    BYU has only 2 double digit wins vs P12 3-9 teams, congrats!

    Good luck beating your first PAC-12 6+ win team in 9 years.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 24, 2018 12:50 p.m.

    Bluto:

    "Because all we heard about for 2 years from the Land of False Bravado, was this 4 star QB coming to save the day."

    Pretty sure that the "Land of False Bravado" is in Provo! It HAS to be. Because all WE'VE heard over the past decade -- during the "preseason" of course -- was how the indy-WACers were going to dominate us, and leave Ute fans spending the next year making excuses for our loss after the game.

    But the "reality" here was, it's been the indy-WACERs -- out of Provostan -- who'd been dominated this past decade, and leaving these annual lame excuses as to why you'd lost. So all those "preseason" boasts by you guys is a CLEAR indication as to where that "Land of False Bravado" truly exists. How embarrassing for you.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 24, 2018 12:22 p.m.

    london-josh-er:

    What I find ironic are the BYU-P fans that can't see who BYU-P is today. If a person is inclined to constantly declare the superiority of their team over another team - do they really believe it? Something pushes them to be so passionate and always building their reasons instead of just accepting "scoreboard”.

  • TwoCloseTwoCall Los Angeles, CA
    Dec. 24, 2018 10:41 a.m.

    Sounds like BYU is getting back on track. Great job, BYU.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Dec. 24, 2018 1:50 a.m.

    Wallbanger,

    I knew Taylor wasn't happy because I'm 2 cities away from folsom California where he was basically a legendary HS coach and he grew up in my area. I never spoke directly to him and don't know him, but I know people who he had conversations with about not being comfortable in his position. A few people who have private conversations with me on these boards also knew what I heard.

    What OC at Utah could feel confident?

    As for trolls, it's an interesting question. I'm not a fan of the BYU fans who troll Utah on it's boards, yet my encounters with ute trolls doesn't inspire me to troll.

    I agree with you that BYU fans should accept what BYU is today - that doesn't mean that we can't cheer for BYU - but we lost a game where Utah looked like they were on the receiving end of a beat-down - but still, we lost.

    What I find ironic are the Utah fans that can't see who Utah is today. If a person is inclined to constantly declare the superiority of their team over another team - do they really believe it? Something pushes them to be so passionate and always building their reasons instead of just saying "scoreboard!"

    I love the human zoo!

    Have a great Christmas buddy.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 24, 2018 12:20 a.m.

    @utemythology

    "* All major polls agree, Utah with #18 SOS is a top 25 team."

    ***

    Like I said before, the only reason that today's pac12 is considered a P5 Conference is because of the fact that they are on the West Coast and the NCAA and the entities that broadcast NCAA FB need viewership from fans west of the Big 10 and the Big 12. If y'all were east of Colorado , Wyoming and New Mexico the pac12 would be a G5 Conference. The pac12 south is particularly bad, they have won the Conference only once in the past 10 years (a 10% win ratio) and with the addition of utah and Colorado that is not likely to change anytime soon.

    The proof of what I am saying is in the pudding... This year will mark the 5th year of the NCAA 4 team FB Playoffs and here's the results:

    SEC 6 teams 6 wins 2 NC
    ACC 6 teams 3 wins 1 NC
    B1G 3 teams 2 wins 1 NC
    B 12 3 teams 0 wins 0 NC
    pac12 2 teams 1 win 0 NC

    (* This takes into account the teams selected for 2018-2019 but not the win/loss)

    The pac 12 is definitely the weakest of the P5 Conferences... And the South Division is the weakest of the pac12.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 23, 2018 11:48 p.m.

    @utemythology

    * BYU vs P5 laughing stock
    North: 3-3 (wins 3-9, 3-9, 5-7)
    South: 2-9 (wins 3-9, 5-7)
    *******
    First , let me bring more light on your ridiculous spin.

    Over the past 8 years it is true that BYU has under-performed. They are in fact 5-12 during that period. However, 7 of those losses were to the utes and 6 of those 7 were by a TD or less and 3 of them were 1 point losses (For that many to fall that way it is in fact luck or chance and the pendulum is due to swing the other direction) But that said, "luck" still counts as a "W". Without utah our record is 5-5. An interesting point is that of the 17 games played only 6 had victory margins greater than a single TD... BYU had 2 of those wins and UW accounted for 2 of the +7 point losses with utah and OSU each also having won by 7+.

    But you should have continued because the next 5 years following those 8 discussed above BYU went 7-3 against the big bad pac with 2 wins over UW, 2 over UCLA, and one each over OSU, Uof O, and AZ. The 3 losses came against UCLA and 2 against AZ.

    Seems to me that if the pac12 is as big and as bad as you represent they would have done a much better job against a mediocre G5 Indy like BYU.

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 23, 2018 8:29 p.m.

    FWIW London

    I’ve always appreciated your comments for the most part, and know you don’t troll. But please don’t stoop to the level of other cougs, and act like Utah fans are the only ones who comment on other threads. I take an interest and enjoy posting because I live amongst so many byu fans. All of which are really good people. But most deny the reality of their program, ( no final AP rankings in nearly a decade and no CFP poll appearances, etc ) and always make excuses why byu continues to lose to Utah in football. Instead of accepting that the Utes are...just better. And in a much better situation than independence.

    Sounds like many on here.

    Happy Holidays buddy!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2018 6:34 p.m.

    Bluto - Sandy, UT
    Dec. 23, 2018 4:40 p.m.
    @Uteology
    Reality check time....

    Utah lost out on Wilson because they were banking on Tuttle.
    They thought and told us for 2 years that he was their future.
    He never saw the field.

    4 Star Q.B's don't wait around for fickle Head Coaches. He moved on and Utah is reeling that they never offered Zach.

    He's better off anyway, where as, BYU produces All-American QB's and Utah destroys them.

    -------

    What? Roderick was our QB coach, you are aware he's your coach now?

    Utah is reeling because we didn't offer 3rd string Wilson?

    Says who? Is Monson your source?

    Yes I agree Wilson was better off at BYU competing against Mangum, because he wasn't going to get playing time at Utah behind Huntley and Shelley.

    Good luck turning Wilson into an All-American QB!

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Dec. 23, 2018 4:40 p.m.

    @Uteology
    Reality check time....

    Utah lost out on Wilson because they were banking on Tuttle.
    They thought and told us for 2 years that he was their future.
    He never saw the field.

    4 Star Q.B's don't wait around for fickle Head Coaches. He moved on and Utah is reeling that they never offered Zach.

    He's better off anyway, where as, BYU produces All-American QB's and Utah destroys them.

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 23, 2018 4:26 p.m.

    london_josh - Lincoln, CA
    Dec. 18, 2018 10:52 a.m.

    “It's an odd move, but people in our area know that he wasn't thrilled working with Whittingham, and $625k is plenty in this area.”

    What “people in your area”? Do you have inside sources like Moson from the
    Tribune? That are constantly proved wrong.

    Or maybe you just believe everything you hear from other coug fans. I just listened to an interview with AD Harlan and Coach Taylor on ESPN 700. Troy was never about the money, and has always wanted a HC job. Being an opportunity at that, plus going home is a no brained for him. Had that job not opened up, he’d be staying at Utah.

    Maybe he did, maybe he didn’t like working for Whitt. “People in your area” speculating isn’t a reliable source. When nobody wants your coaches, there’s something wrong with your program. Your cougs get to keep all theirs, so congrats.

    =============================
    Michigan Cougsfan68

    “TherealND
    Some food for thought. WMU scored more points against NIU then the mighty Utes were able to do with their starting QB and team at pretty much full strength!”

    Byu...Undefeated yet again in moral victories. Thanks for the laugh!🤣

    Merry Christmas!

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 23, 2018 4:18 p.m.

    “WMU scored more points against NIU then the mighty Utes were able to do with their starting QB”

    michcoog:

    Why use WMU as your surrogate? You do know that Utah scored more points against NIU on the road than BYU-P was able to do with their starting QB at home.

  • Michigan Cougsfan68 Ann Arbor, MI
    Dec. 23, 2018 2:10 p.m.

    TherealND
    Some food for thought. WMU scored more points against NIU then the mighty Utes were able to do with their starting QB and team at pretty much full strength!

  • Michigan Cougsfan68 Ann Arbor, MI
    Dec. 23, 2018 1:48 p.m.

    Co Ute
    With the play of Wilson and the rest of the Cougs and yet another new OC at Utah that next game has some new intrigue for a first game of the year!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2018 1:46 p.m.

    Bluto - Sandy, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 7:52 p.m.
    What really upsets Ute fans is that Zach grew up a Ute fan and Whit didn't even look at him.

    ------

    Nope! We already had a 4-star as our 3rd string QB.

    What upsets us that Whitt mismanaged Tuttle. He should have played Tuttle against Weber and in other blowout games.

    He still might of transferred, but Wilson is not a big loss like BYU losing Covey.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 23, 2018 1:38 p.m.

    @poyman

    Again, our #2 RB Shyne ran over TakiTaki and Kaufusi, your 2 best players, for 2 TDs.

    On one hand you claim "luck" is why Utah wins, then it's Kusufusi were missing. Which is it, luck or your lack of talent?

    We don't care if you don't have depth to compete. You are free to celebrate 1st half, moral victories, margin of defeats.

    As far as your Utah SOS and weak P12 smack:

    * All major polls agree, Utah with #18 SOS is a top 25 team.

    * BYU vs P5 laughing stock
    North: 3-3 (wins 3-9, 3-9, 5-7)
    South: 2-9 (wins 3-9, 5-7)

    At 29%, for BYU the P12 is like playing NFL teams.

    I wonder what happens first, BYU makes a CFP ranking or beats a P12 team with 6+ wins. Hmmmmmm!

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 23, 2018 12:18 p.m.

    Londy Josh:

    “These comments are hilarious.

    😂

    Keep it up ute fans who are no longer interested in anything about BYU.”

    My response to you, was your comment about Utah fans’ comments on a byu story. And you acting like coug fans, such as yourself, never commenting on Utah boards. I never said anything about YOUR comments being “derogatory” or “aimed at putting Utah fans down” in my post. Fans from both sides post a plenty on each thread.

    If Utah loses their bowl game, or if the PAC 12 has another bad bowl season. There will be plenty of coug fans pilling on, as they always do. Thus, proving my point. Try not to respond with a straw man. And act like it’s only Utah fans that do this.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 23, 2018 11:56 a.m.

    @utemythology

    "...So your "fact" that Utah not scoring 20 points on Kaufusi "cousins" is 100% fantasy."
    *****

    You are wrong again but that's pretty standard... Isaiah did not play after he was injured and he was NOT on the field for any of the ute TDs... You need to check the highlights yourself (he is #53). Corbin (#90) was not even suppose to suit up but he rescheduled his surgery so he could play. His Surgery was done the following week as rescheduled. So yes, Corbin hobbled around the entire first half and some of the second half. But the real glaring point is the fact that the red hot ute Defense was out there the entire time that BYU's Offense (who only scored 6 points off of NIU ) and was one of the worst scoring Offenses in the nation pinned 27 points (4 TDs on them and 3 of them came in the first half)... And they did it with a Freshman QB in front of the jumping ute fans in RES.

    Also the fact that utah is rated high based on SOS is also baloney. the pac12 continues to be the laughing stock of P5 FB. If they weren't by themselves on the West Coast they wouldn't even be a P5 Conference. The NCAA simply had to appeal to fans on the west coast and that was their answer.

  • Former Coach ,
    Dec. 23, 2018 10:31 a.m.

    @ND95CA,

    I know both Isiah and Corbin left the game. I think you are correct with Isiah, he never returned. Corbin did in fact come back and play. I will help you out, go to the ESPN game highlights and watch Shyne's go ahead touchdown run. #90 is right there. That is Corbin correct. Please let me know if I am mistaken. This will save you some time instead of watching the whole second half.

  • UteMiguel Go Utes, CA
    Dec. 23, 2018 9:16 a.m.

    All that really matters is winning the first half. Which Western Michigan did. There was no reason for them to try after that because winning the first half is all that matters.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Dec. 23, 2018 6:45 a.m.

    @wallbanger

    "Settle down London. It’s not like coug fans, such as yourself, “NEVER” comment on the Utah boards...right?"

    Go ahead and tell me about my last comment that's derrigatory to Utah as a team or aimed at putting down Utah fans on a Utah story.

    Happy hunting!

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Dec. 23, 2018 12:33 a.m.

    ND95CA - Lincoln Park, IL
    Dec. 22, 2018 6:08 p.m.

    BYU isn’t afraid to play any team from any conference, including from the absolute best conference, the SEC.

    BYU plays Utah, at Tennessee, USC and Washington to start next season.

    Remind us the last time Utah scheduled a regular season game against an SEC team.
    _____

    Why does Utah need to schedule an SEC team? They already play a conference schedule which takes up the majority of their games. BYU is the team that struggles to fill out their schedule, and make 2-1 deals with anyone they can.

    SEC is not the absolute best conference. Its heavy in average and bottom feeder teams just like every other P-5 conference. The past 7 years shows that.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 22, 2018 9:55 p.m.

    @ND96CA

    Utah trailed 27-7 when Corbin Kaufusi was injured and left game with 1:22 left in the 3rd Q.

    Utah’s offense didn’t score a single point until both Kaufusi’s were forced to leave the game because of injuries.

    ------

    That is not true. You can't make up your own reality.

    Both were playing on every play that Utah's offense scored on. It's clear on every video highlight.

    Take the time to review the videos on ESPN, you can relive the 2nd half beatdown.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 22, 2018 9:47 p.m.

    ND95CA - Lincoln Park, IL
    Dec. 22, 2018 6:15 p.m.
    utemythology

    “I suggest you go to ESPN and look at the Utah scoring highlights.

    You'll see Utah rolling all over the Kaufusi "cousins" for 21 points.”

    Your claim is completely bogus because neither Kaufusi was even on the field when the Utes scored their first touchdown.

    ------

    Wow!

    BYU's entire defense wasn't on the field on Utah's 1st touchdown, since our defense scored a pick 6.

    FACT: Kaufusi's were on the field for the next 4 touchdowns.

    Take your time watching our video highlights, they are easy to spot as Utah runs through them.

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:57 p.m.

    ND95CA:

    You guys never tire of the injury excuse, do you? Had Utah been playing OUR starters in Huntley and Moss, you’d been blown out, start to finish. See how that works? Maybe just accept the fact, Utah IS better!

    Congrats on winning the Baked Potato Bowl. I heard Sitake and staff are getting multiple offers to better gigs with such an impressive season and bowl win. If they stick around, maybe next season they can actually finished ranked for the first time in nearly a decade. And land in the CFP poll. You guys shave a Merry Christmas!

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 7:52 p.m.

    What really upsets Ute fans is that Zach grew up a Ute fan and Whit didn't even look at him.

    Why?
    Because all we heard about for 2 years from the Land of False Bravado, was this 4 star QB coming to save the day.

    And once he got to the U?
    Well, well, he's now at Indiana.

    Whit needs to get out of the U's offense once and for all.
    11 O.C's in 12 years.
    Really?

  • mussingaround Palo Alto, CA
    Dec. 22, 2018 7:36 p.m.

    Wallbanger - Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 6:56 p.m.
    Settle down London. It’s not like coug fans, such as yourself, “NEVER” comment on the Utah boards...right?

    It isn’t BYU fans still obsessing about a century old rival that they claim is no longer relevant.

  • skywalker Palo Alto, CA
    Dec. 22, 2018 7:22 p.m.

    Utemythology

    “Here's my take:

    #17 Utah

    #28 Utah State

    #73 BYU

    Using that measurement, BYU is 3rd in State“

    What makes you think Utah will be ranked after losing to Northwestern?

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 6:56 p.m.

    Settle down London. It’s not like coug fans, such as yourself, “NEVER” comment on the Utah boards...right?

  • ND95CA Lincoln Park, IL
    Dec. 22, 2018 6:45 p.m.

    If Corbin and Isaiah Kaufusi hadn’t been injured in the 2nd half, Utah wouldn’t have had a prayer of overcoming that 20 point deficit.

    Utah trailed 20-0 when Isaiah Kaufusi was injured with 13 minutes left in the 3rd Q.

    Utah trailed 27-7 when Corbin Kaufusi was injured and left game with 1:22 left in the 3rd Q.

    Utah’s offense didn’t score a single point until both Kaufusi’s were forced to leave the game because of injuries.

  • ND95CA Lincoln Park, IL
    Dec. 22, 2018 6:15 p.m.

    utemythology

    “I suggest you go to ESPN and look at the Utah scoring highlights.

    You'll see Utah rolling all over the Kaufusi "cousins" for 21 points.”

    Your claim is completely bogus because neither Kaufusi was even on the field when the Utes scored their first touchdown.

  • ND95CA Lincoln Park, IL
    Dec. 22, 2018 6:08 p.m.

    utemythology

    “BYU's scheduling avoidance of Weber State is becoming laughable.”

    Your Weber State scheduling “avoidance” claim is absolutely hysterical.

    BYU has NEVER lost to Weber State in Provo in any sport, men’s or women’s, in over 100 games.

    BYU isn’t afraid to play any team from any conference, including from the absolute best conference, the SEC.

    BYU plays Utah, at Tennessee, USC and Washington to start next season.

    Remind us the last time Utah scheduled a regular season game against an SEC team.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Dec. 22, 2018 5:49 p.m.

    These comments are hilarious.

    😂

    Keep it up ute fans who are no longer interested in anything about BYU.

  • ND95CA Lincoln Park, IL
    Dec. 22, 2018 5:35 p.m.

    utemythology

    “Utah beat USC after being down 14-0.”

    Yawn...

    USC was terrible this year, losing 5 of their final 6 games and finishing with a losing 5-7 record.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 22, 2018 5:29 p.m.

    BYUalum - South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 3:02 p.m.
    Interesting that Utah fans try to "bloody the water" with defending their team and league on a day when Cougar fans are celebrating this big bowl win for their program!

    This was a STELLAR win for BYU pure and simple. Live with it; acknowledge it!

    ------------

    Your AD doesn't even acknowledge it.

    In "fact", according to Holmoe, your biggest win since 2012 was 20-0 halftime win at Utah.

  • zipadeedoodah Lehi, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 4:56 p.m.

    Sitake said: “I've been trying to let Zach loose for a long time now,” and “I think an aggressive style of football is what we need to have on offense."

    Holy smokes! First of all why didn't Sitake and company recognize what the biggest single problem has been the past couple of years and first half of this season... the QB position. As much as I like Tanner as a man, he was not the right QB the past couple of years and that was obvious to many of us fans. Why didn't the coaching staff see this?

    And yes, unlike some recent QBs, Zach, with his accuracy, deserved to be turned loose to throw passes more than they let him.

    Now, one more word to the coaching staff if they would listen: rotate in a second QB on an ongoing basis. Don't keep all the marbles in one bag. But definitely Zach has the potential to lead this team to good places if he stays healthy and the coaches let him play his game.

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 4:42 p.m.

    Congrats on the win cougs. Wilson is a solid QB. Hopefully he doesn’t have a “sophomore slump” next year. I’d also be surprised if he made it a full season without injury with how much he likes to run. See Taysom. Haven’t looked at the ‘19 schedule for the cougs. Maybe it’s all cupcakes after September, so Wilson may not have to worry about tough defenses.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 3:31 p.m.

    “Can't wait for the comeuppance...”

    byu-p football rock:

    Sure you can. You’ve waited 9 years already, what’s another 9?

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 3:02 p.m.

    Interesting that Utah fans try to "bloody the water" with defending their team and league on a day when Cougar fans are celebrating this big bowl win for their program!

    This was a STELLAR win for BYU pure and simple. Live with it; acknowledge it!

    How many teams (in a bowl game or any game) would like to have their freshman QB throw a PERFECT 18 for 18 game as an 18 year old? Give me a break!

    BYU was awesome on the blue turf. Sitake not only "ought to let Wilson throw more", he should let him throw with an option play every time he sees someone open.

    And, big shout out to Sione Takitaki for 19 big, huge tackles in this game. See you in the NFL!

    Go COUGARS!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 22, 2018 2:32 p.m.

    @Surf is Up - Miami, FL

    I'm looking forward to next season's game with the best team in the worst division of the weakest P5 conference in America.

    ------------

    You don't play Pitt next year.

    You do play the #17 team in America, next season BYU will have the honor of losing 9th straight to a Top 25 P5 program.

  • Silver Stingray St George, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 2:08 p.m.

    Those who are crowing so loudly need to keep in mind that this was the Potato Bowl, not the Rose Bowl.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 22, 2018 2:00 p.m.

    @poyman

    And Blue Coug is dead on accurate when he says that utah would not have been able to rally back in the second half if the Kaufusi "cousins (not brothers) would have been able to play the second half.

    -------------

    I suggest you go to ESPN and look at the Utah scoring highlights.

    You'll see Utah rolling all over the Kaufusi "cousins" for 21 points.

    So your "fact" that Utah not scoring 20 points on Kaufusi "cousins" is 100% fantasy.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 22, 2018 1:45 p.m.

    worf - McAllen, TX
    Dec. 22, 2018 10:22 a.m.
    Debating BYU-Utah?--A break from politics and border walls!

    Here's my take!

    Both Utah and Western Michigan played Northern Illinois.

    Using that as a measurement,--Western Michigan is superior to the Utes and the Cougs are on the mend.

    ---------------

    Here's my take:

    #17 Utah

    #28 Utah State

    #73 BYU

    Using that measurement, BYU is 3rd in State.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 22, 2018 1:20 p.m.

    @poyman

    Lastly... BYU played both USU and utah and there is no question that the Aggie's were the better team by far. utah's scheduling avoidance of USU is becoming laughable. They would have hung an "L" on U this year.

    -------------

    When did you jump on Utah State's bandwagon?

    Sure, only in the bubble is Utah State better than the #17 ranked team in the country.

    Scheduling avoidance?

    #17 Utah SOS #18

    #28 Utah State SOS #113

    #72 BYU SOS #63

    #110 Weber State SOS #155

    BYU's scheduling avoidance of Weber State is becoming laughable.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Dec. 22, 2018 1:10 p.m.

    My buddy Mike is mostly right about Zack.

    On a team known for old players (often an exaggerated Stat) Wilson is impressive as a QB and leader a year after getting his driver's license throwing to players who have kids.

    He's not 205lbs, he's more like 190 but he should be 205 next year and could be a bear by graduation. His size can't be disconnected from his age, 4 years ago he was probably just under a buck. This showing should be a start to something much better next year.

    As for going to leach, Zack clearly has team chemistry and will lead BYU well for years. Why change schools? It makes about as much sense as saying that he should switch positions - he's got what he wants at BYU. The same BYU that Mike leach watched games in growing up in Payson then learned an air raid as an assistant to Lavell.

    He'd get more attention at wazzu, but he broke a Steve Young record yesterday. I personally wish byu kept detmer as qb coach but obviously chemistry works for now.

    Wilson's confidence flows to receivers too. He's got a lot of freshman targets, watch what happens as they grow together.

  • gadiantonchief Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 12:54 p.m.

    @RealUte

    Wilson's at an impressionable age, so let's not give him THAT idea, but instead, a transfer to Utah, the school he wanted to begin with (were it not for the "Tuttle Debacle").

    He has as smooth a throwing motion as anybody I've seen, and throws a truly pretty ball. sees the field very well, like you say quick, and in the end, he's just a great and confident athlete with a very specialized set of skills. I'm a big fan of his, and if he stays the course, he's playing on Sundays.

    Congrats, Wilson, for the win. You too, Takitaki.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 22, 2018 12:55 p.m.

    The 6-5 Cougs didn't just win the first half at RES against the Soutern Division Champion of the big bad pac12 (statistically the worst division in P5 FB) they crushed the utes by the obscene score of 20-0. And this was against the 2nd best Defense in the pac12 Conference. How embarrassing.

    And Blue Coug is dead on accurate when he says that utah would not have been able to rally back in the second half if the Kaufusi "cousins (not brothers) ...

    The coming game in September 2019 should be another good one. The pendulum of "luck" and "chance" that has been so favorable to utah over the past 7 years has to swing the other way.

    -----------

    Cougar Nation lives in a land of fantasy.

    Their "very close" mentality starts at Holmoe, skips Sitake, and continues through Dick Harmon to the rest of Cougar Nation.

    FACT: In the 8 straight wins, Utah has been a Top 25 team in 4 of those wins.

    FACT: BYU has beat 4 top 25 teams in 22 years, ZERO wins vs P5.

    Embarrassing is the 3rd place team in the state thinking "luck" or "sport cycle" is what's keeping them from beating a P5 top 25 team.

    Good "luck" beating Utah State.

  • Shoe Auburn, King, WA
    Dec. 22, 2018 12:42 p.m.

    Zack has what a takes but how about some help with some quick, sure handed wide receivers and a good running back to take the pressure off him in our passing attack.

  • Cougalum St. George, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 12:22 p.m.

    Great second half versus mediocre team. Thanks for all the comments. Holmoe still on hot seat for continuing independence and scheduling. Tick, tick, tick, tict ... . Tick.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 22, 2018 12:13 p.m.

    Bluto - Sandy, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 7:52 a.m.
    Well, well, look at all of the Nervous Nellie Utes coming out of the woodwork to once again slam their biggest rival.

    Thanks for watching.

    Utah can only dream of BYU's Legacy at Q.B.
    Looks like BYU is in the Quarterback business again, for years to come.

    Meanwhile, False Bravado Utes are looking for their 11th O.C in in 12 years?

    ------

    So?

    One of the OCs we fired is your QB coach.

    If you thought Mangum an All American Freshman, Winston the 2nd regressed, wait until Roderick is done with Wilson.

    Ute Nation nevrvious of the 3rd team in the State? You need to focus on getting past Utah State.

    2019 BYU: 7-5, 9th and 3rd striaght loses to Utah and Utah State

    By end of year, Conover, the next great QB, count down officially begins at BYU.

  • Oregon Ute Hermiston, OR
    Dec. 22, 2018 12:00 p.m.

    Good win for the Cougs and justifiable hope and confidence in the upcoming season. Y posters, please don't confuse some U fans posting on this article as the "Utes fan base". Just a few U fans who like to stir up those Y fans, and they are getting the reaction out of you that they want. You would do much better to ignore those comments and eventually they would disappear.

  • water rocket Magna, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 11:48 a.m.

    After watching the replay on late night TV I cam to the conclusion that the BYU coaches are using a cannon to set up the pop guns. In other words, they use the pass sparingly to set up the minimal run game. Sure, they got a couple of big runs, but most of the time their run game (the pop gun) was stopped dead. When they used the passing game (the cannon) they got big play after big play. They only threw the ball 19 times (all completions) while WMU threw 39 times. They got nearly 358 yards passing to just 132 yards rushing (the pop gun). They got 18.85 yards per passing attempt with only 4 yards per rushing attempt (cannon vs. pop gun). BYU rushed 33 times to only 19 passing attempts. Why not use the cannon more often?

  • GoRed Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 11:46 a.m.

    With all of the trash talking coming from the BYU fan base, you do realize, I hope, that you just beat an average 7-5 (now 7-6) G5 team from a small conference. Also, Utah has beaten you 8 straight times, giving Utes fans bragging and trash talking rights. Until you beat us on a consistent bases, you don’t have trash talking rights.

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Dec. 22, 2018 11:25 a.m.

    @Real Ute, you are Real obsessed with BYU. You would recommend anything that pokes BYU in the eye.

    I thought you people have moved on because your program is so great (giggle, snort) at least in football.

    At least you didn't recommend that Wilson transfer to the U under the guise of becoming a QB only to be converted to the defense.

    I'm looking forward to next season's game with the best team in the worst division of the weakest P5 conference in America.

  • Robie OREM, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 11:22 a.m.

    Congrats BYU! With USU's big win if the Utes can win what a great bowl season it will have been!

  • Surf is Up Miami, FL
    Dec. 22, 2018 11:11 a.m.

    Great game BYU, regardless of who you faced. It was really fun watching the QBs throw precise and accurate passes. It certainly leaves room for optimism for next season

    But, as is usual whenever BYU wins in style the usual suspects, whose own team isn't all that different from BYU, but they want everybody to believe it (even themselves) come on to create the narrative:

    Anything impressive that BYU does is done by accident, or against a pathetic opponent, and everything the utes do is great and that most games they aren't really up for it.

    And this same program has had near death experiences from BYU every season for years.

    And finally, set football aside and combine all athletics as a whole and you'll find that BYU buries the other two instate rivals.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 11:08 a.m.

    Orem Parent "The ute fan obsession with BYU is real."
    After BYU won its bowl game with an explosive second half, what was the number 1 story on the Cougar fan board? A story about Utah.

    That's the definition of obsession. Your team is in a bowl game. The game is on ESPN. The quarterback is having an amazing 2nd half. But the fans want to talk about... Utah.

  • New to Utah Provo, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 11:02 a.m.

    The location, weather conditions, opponent, national coverage, this is the gift to BYU that keeps on giving. I taped the game, once or twice is not enough. How many times in a lifetime do you witness perfection, Zach was 18-18 with 4 touchdowns? It was precisely what BYU needed to be relevant. What happened in Boise was a visual story of success there is simply no way around that. BYU lost at RES but it was close, they had a horrible game against the Aggies but what showed up in Boise was disciplined excellent team.

  • Real Ute Dallas, TX
    Dec. 22, 2018 10:29 a.m.

    This win for BYU in the Potato Bowl has energized Y fans to no end. The entertainment value going into next season will be at a feverish pitch. Ardent Y fans like London Josh will be prognosticating BYU glory/victory against Utah as always, many other Y fans as well......talking about match-ups, talent, exposure, rankings, Heismans, NY6 bowls......the whole enchilada as well. I'll tell ya what folks........it doesn't get any better for we Utes. It is so fun fun fun!

  • intrinsicrewards Salem, VA
    Dec. 22, 2018 10:26 a.m.

    Great game. More progress towards a return to greatness. It was evident from the first game to the end that these players worked very hard all year and did their talking on the field. Stay humble Cougars. No Heisman or undefeated talk. The right coaching and players are in place for a very good team next year if everyone continues working.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Dec. 22, 2018 10:22 a.m.

    Debating BYU-Utah?--A break from politics and border walls!

    Here's my take!

    Both Utah and Western Michigan played Northern Illinois.

    Using that as a measurement,--Western Michigan is superior to the Utes and the Cougs are on the mend.

  • Suttree Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 10:20 a.m.

    "It marks the Cougars’ first-ever victory at Albertsons Stadium — improving to 1-5 all-time"

    Reason? No Boise State that has owned the Y and U.

  • Real Ute Dallas, TX
    Dec. 22, 2018 9:45 a.m.

    I am totally impressed with Wilson. I appreciated his film in fall camp. The guy is a really good football player.........great pocket feel, brave throwing with precision, quick as a cat......and on and on and on.

    Zachary Wilson is a little boy as of today and has the potential to be a legit NFL QB. If I were him, I'd hire a nutritionist so he eats decent food and transfers to Washington State.........Mike Leach would turn him into a superstar......Wazzu has many playmakers that will enhance Wilson's game as it relates to his future.

  • Pugman Tremonton, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 9:42 a.m.

    I love the crying from the Utes fan base. They pray for a day to have a QB with a 321 rating.

  • byufootballrocks Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 9:01 a.m.

    @CO Ute:
    ------
    @byufootballrocks, bluecoug, and sports fan -

    "I’ve been reading the same garbage from you for years now. BYU walks over a mediocre team and you start reliving the ‘80’s.
    Maybe next year the Y actually pulls out a win over Utah, over a ranked team, and maybe Wilson does become a great college QB. But until those things actually happen, you trash talk is just a bunch of hot air."
    ------------

    "Trash talk" - why that perfectly describes the methodology of Ute fans on these boards. Who doesn't see a glass house here? Don't you love it...these Ute fans who talk like this actually don't care if BYU wins - they want us to lose. Their "advice" to our team and fans is laughable, sort of like rabid Dallas Cowboy fans giving the Redskins advice on how to make themselves a better team and beat them. Right...they've really got our best interest at heart...lol

    Yet they come on these boards and brag and talk about how we're the little brother and we haven't beaten them in 8 years and trashing our program. When they themselves really haven't done that much in the PAC 12 with the exception of what, one season? Where's your Rose Bowl?

    Can't wait for the comeuppance...

  • BigJim03 Bluffdale, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:50 a.m.

    Ute fan here. That was a great game to watch. It was good to see a BYU win to end the season. Wilson was fun to watch and a very smart quarterback. Great play calling by the offensive coaches. This game reminded me of BYU football of the past. Hopefully, the start of a great season next year.
    Now on to the holiday bowl and have the Utes make it another win for the state of Utah.
    Congrats Cougars!
    Go Utes!

  • P5Proud Santa Monica, CA
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:45 a.m.

    Reel it in a little Des News and BYU fans---you beat a 7-6 team from the MAC to become 7-6 yourselves. You didn't all of a sudden revert to the glory days of '84.
    Your qb played a very good game in terrible weather and good for you. But let's not ladle the gravy too greasy, hot and thick on this spud. It was a tiny, poorly attended lower case bowl game and you showed the MAC you could hang after having lost at home to another MAC team earlier in the year.

  • CV Storm Hyrum, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:47 a.m.

    This was a good win by the Cougars. However, they need to take time to enjoy it. Looking at their 2019 schedule they could very easily end up with a 4-8 or 5-7 record. Tough, tough schedule. But then Mr. Holmoe has it back loaded with your typical punching bags. BYU fans must be licking their chops to play UMASS again. Thats a big one.

  • Orem Parent Orem, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:46 a.m.

    The ute fan obsession with BYU is real. I think there are more posts on this BYU story by ute fans than BYU fans. Thanks for the laughs.

    Great game Zach! Glad you are a Cougar! Can't wait for the next 3 years in Provo!

  • nothegame Saratoga Springs, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:44 a.m.

    Same old ybU fans. I came on here to congratulate y’all on the win, then it went from we would’ve kicked Utah’s butt if so and so would have played. So with that thinking, do u think Western Michigan is home thinking ya but we won the first half. Can’t have it both ways Y fans.

  • Flipphone Sandy, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:39 a.m.

    I enjoyed the game it was a nice win for BYU. Now I hope That BYU fans don't try to make winning famous Potato bowl more than what is was,a win over a not so good team.

  • wallyball SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:27 a.m.

    Comparing scores isn't always meaningful. For those folks demeaning Easten Michigan they might recall that rhey scored 28 points against NIU and Utah only scored 17, with the last touchdown coming in the closing minutes. Let's allow fans their moments of celebration.

  • Im not sayin Im just sayin Herriman, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:16 a.m.

    I've always been a Utah fan, but back in the day I cheered for BYU, except when they played Utah. Then sports talk radio and the internet came along and completely ruined it. Even though there are Utah fans that are equally obnoxious, the are some BYU fans that make me want to see BYU lose. I miss the olden days.

    That being said, I will just say that Western Michigan was a bad defense. But BYU did what a good team should do to a bad defense. They destroyed them.

    The only negative thing I would say towards BYU is; pick a freaking blue and go with it. Either everybody on the sideline wears all navy or everybody wears all royal. But the mixture not only looks awful, I think it makes BYU look disorganized and unprofessional.

    Go Utes!

  • BYU Gamer Pleasant Grove, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:15 a.m.

    Congratulations Cougars! I thought Western Michigan played good defense in the first half, but with Wilson being perfect, he just wore them out. A really good defensive performance from Takitaki and also the defensive backs. I taped the game and watched later. So much fun. This should give momentum to next year.

  • Former Coach ,
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:04 a.m.

    @Sportsfan,

    I realize that BYU suffered some injuries against Utah. Corbin Kaufusi played hurt. I know he had some type of injury during the second half. However, with 4 minutes to play, when Shyne ran in the go ahead touchdown, could you please tell me who was the player wearing #90 and Kaufusi written on the back. He had a chance to make the tackle. Did BYU switch numbers? Corbin Kaufusi did not miss the whole second half of the Utah game.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:03 a.m.

    Caddis wrote:
    "I loved seeing Tanner end his career at BYU on a high note. Perfect pass. That for me was the high note. Nice!"

    It was a nice play, however, to be objective, it did highlight Tanner's Achilles heal , i.e. that he rarely hit his receivers in stride. Had he done so in this case, it's a touchdown.

    Tanners receivers very often had to wait for the ball to get there, while Zach's passes are crisp and generally in stride.

    Good luck Tanner, in your life's endeavors, for being a class act and mentoring "The Kid".

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Dec. 22, 2018 8:03 a.m.

    @sportsfan

    "This is an absolute FACT:"

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 7:52 a.m.

    Well, well, look at all of the Nervous Nellie Utes coming out of the woodwork to once again slam their biggest rival.

    Thanks for watching.

    Utah can only dream of BYU's Legacy at Q.B.
    Looks like BYU is in the Quarterback business again, for years to come.

    Meanwhile, False Bravado Utes are looking for their 11th O.C in in 12 years?

  • Flipphone Sandy, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 7:49 a.m.

    Wish he would have signed with Utah.

  • Guns_n_Roses Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 7:20 a.m.

    Does anybody else scroll the comments just to see Utah fans obsession with BYU athletics? Hilarious

  • Pops NORTH SALT LAKE, UT
    Dec. 22, 2018 6:33 a.m.

    Some of the comments here remind me of Kid History Episode 4 - "Oceanography! Faaccccttttt!"

  • SurpriseCat Surprise, AZ
    Dec. 22, 2018 6:27 a.m.

    SportsFan,

    You wrote: "This is an absolute FACT:

    If Corbin and Isaiah Kaufusi hadn’t been injured in the 2nd half, Utah wouldn’t have had a prayer of overcoming that 20 point deficit."

    It's possible you should send a complaint email to every teacher you ever had; it appears you somehow don't know what the word "fact" means.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    Dec. 22, 2018 5:44 a.m.

    "Therealnd: How many points did Ohio and Toledo allow Western to score?"

    Ohio - 14 points
    Toledo- 24 points

    Western gave up at least 35 points in 8 of their games. Their defense ranks 103rd in scoring defense in the country.

    BYu played very well. Wilson was awesome, but their 49 points were previously matched or outdone by 4 other teams.

  • wahului Stockton, CA
    Dec. 22, 2018 2:30 a.m.

    Exciting and tantalizing performance all around by BYU...teasing us into the offseason and hopes for next season already!!

    I am especially impressed by the man Sione Takitaki has become. He was a talented cocky lost punk when he arrived at BYU, and his growth is at the same time touching and inspiring. Way to go, Sione!! Proud of you, son!!!!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 22, 2018 1:50 a.m.

    SportsFan - Provo, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 10:57 p.m.
    utemythology

    This is an absolute FACT:

    If Corbin and Isaiah Kaufusi hadn’t been injured in the 2nd half, Utah wouldn’t have had a prayer of overcoming that 20 point deficit.

    -----

    No, that is absolute fantasy.

    * This is a fact: Utah 35-27

    * This is also a fact: 8 stright

    * This is another fact: BYU is 3rd in State

    Utah fans don't care if you choose to celebrate moral victories.

  • CO Ute , 00
    Dec. 22, 2018 12:28 a.m.

    @byufootballrocks, bluecoug, and sports fan -

    I’ve been reading the same garbage from you for years now. BYU walks over a mediocre team and you start reliving the ‘80’s. Then you make excuses about losing to Utah. If only so and so hadn’t been injured, it was bad calls from the officials, we out played the Utes, we gave it away, and so on. Then we hear that Heaps or Mangum is the next Steve Young.

    Despite your claims, here are some real facts. BYU beat a team that was not very good and had been giving up points in bunches the last several games. They still haven’t defeated a team that ended the season ranked in several years and they haven’t beat Utah this decade.

    Maybe next year the Y actually pulls out a win over Utah, over a ranked team, and maybe Wilson does become a great college QB. But until those things actually happen, you trash talk is just a bunch of hot air.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    Dec. 22, 2018 12:27 a.m.

    @utemythology

    "...Your biggest win since 2012 is a halftime lead at Utah. Enjoy it!"

    ***
    The 6-5 Cougs didn't just win the first half at RES against the Soutern Division Champion of the big bad pac12 (statistically the worst division in P5 FB) they crushed the utes by the obscene score of 20-0. And this was against the 2nd best Defense in the pac12 Conference. How embarrassing.

    And Blue Coug is dead on accurate when he says that utah would not have been able to rally back in the second half if the Kaufusi "cousins (not brothers) would have been able to play the second half. As it was Corbin Kaufusi played injured the entire first half. (BTW Corbin is projected as a top 50 draft prospect in 2019 his loss was huge). It also didn't help to have the Cougs 5th string RB Hadley go down either.

    The coming game in September 2019 should be another good one. The pendulum of "luck" and "chance" that has been so favorable to utah over the past 7 years has to swing the other way.

    Lastly... BYU played both USU and utah and there is no question that the Aggie's were the better team by far. utah's scheduling avoidance of USU is becoming laughable. They would have hung an "L" on U this year.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Dec. 21, 2018 11:41 p.m.

    BlueCoug - Provo, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 10:09 p.m.
    utemythology

    “BYUs defense is lucky they didn't face Huntley and Moss.”

    Wouldn’t have made any difference.

    Utah was lucky that Corbin and Isaiah Kaufusi were injured in the 2nd half or Utah wouldn’t have had a prayer of overcoming that 20 point deficit.
    _____

    Uh huh. The classic symptoms of green jello and funeral potato overload.
    Woulda, coulda, shoulda, what if.....

    You lost. Stop with the excuses. Read the score as reference.
    Move along.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 21, 2018 11:19 p.m.

    SportsFan:

    That's not a "fact". That's an "opinion". And at least you HAD those players in that game, whereas WE were out our starting quarterback AND starting running back.

    Utah was sleepwalking through the first half of that game, and only decided to "play" in the 2nd Half. Utah won NOT because Kaufusi and Hadley were out, but because we were the better team! Period!

  • SportsFan Provo, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 10:57 p.m.

    utemythology

    This is an absolute FACT:

    If Corbin and Isaiah Kaufusi hadn’t been injured in the 2nd half, Utah wouldn’t have had a prayer of overcoming that 20 point deficit.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 21, 2018 10:35 p.m.

    @BlueCoug-Loser-of-8-Stright

    utemythology

    “BYUs defense is lucky they didn't face Huntley and Moss.”

    Wouldn’t have made any difference.

    Utah was lucky that Corbin and Isaiah Kaufusi were injured in the 2nd half or Utah wouldn’t have had a prayer of overcoming that 20 point deficit.

    -------

    Utah beat USC after being down 14-0.

    And we couldn't come back against the mighty Kaufusi brothers?

    Your biggest win since 2012 is a halftime lead at Utah. Enjoy it!

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Dec. 21, 2018 10:25 p.m.

    "Except, you are. Why? Because your freshman QB played a terrible defense that completely fell apart in the 2nd half?"

    So beating a team in the second half because the defense falters does not mean it's a real victory.

    Good to know ute fan!

  • Suttree Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 10:09 p.m.

    I remember this when the Y was bad after the Gary years and saying, THE Y IS BACK! Didn't turn out that way. The real bowl game was the U/Y game. Could care less about the Wolverines and who wins the Northwestern game.

    That was the only game that mattered to me. And they want to try to make a rivalry out of the Buffs who lost six in a row. Lol.

    Congrats on your win Y and I still remember the last second win over Toledo. Moving on up in the world. But you always beat the Utes in Basketball so I guess it evens out somewhat. Boise, then watching the other bowl game in the Bahamas. Would take that over this.

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 10:09 p.m.

    utemythology

    “BYUs defense is lucky they didn't face Huntley and Moss.”

    Wouldn’t have made any difference.

    Utah was lucky that Corbin and Isaiah Kaufusi were injured in the 2nd half or Utah wouldn’t have had a prayer of overcoming that 20 point deficit.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 21, 2018 9:51 p.m.

    byufootballrocks - Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 7:42 p.m.
    @Uteology "Which is why this was a trap game for BYU. BYU woke up in the 2nd half. Sound familiar? Next year Utah wins 9th straight, BYU goes 7-5.
    ----------------------
    Sorry, I know some Ute fans can't handle it when BYU wins decisively and then come on this board and want to rain on BYU's parade...and have you noticed they seem to bring a crystal ball with them...

    But in just eight months the Utes have to come into Provo and face this guy Wilson - who crunched them - in their season 2019 opening game. (Wilson and BYU would have triumphed anyway in the Utah game if BYU's defense hadn't had injuries and depth issues and then folded).

    -------------

    YOU brought up Utah, you should be worried about Utah State.

    BYUs defense is lucky they didn't face Huntley and Moss.

    Wilson had 65 yards, 1 pick 6 in the 2nd half at RES. He also folded when Utah's defense woke up.

    As far next year, Utah 9th and Utah State 3 straight over BYU. Cheer up, I still see BYU improving next year at 7-5.

  • Complimentary Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 9:46 p.m.

    Therealnd: How many points did Ohio and Toledo allow Western to score? Western isn't a top-tier program but they have some good running backs. BYU's D was darn stout! BYU's offense is just beginning to gel. Kalani even said in his remarks after the game that he liked using the pass to set up the run and that he wasn't going to worry about sustaining drives but focus more on scoring points. FINALLY!

    Good win Cougs! Get ready for next year! Wilson is the real deal!

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 9:46 p.m.

    “I wouldn't be so confident.”

    byu-p football rock:

    Except, you are. Why? Because your freshman QB played a terrible defense that completely fell apart in the 2nd half?

  • blue & white Boise, ID
    Dec. 21, 2018 9:32 p.m.

    Fun game to watch in person. I really wonder why we didn’t recruit Zack in 2016 & 17? What were the coaches thinking? Shouldn’t Kalani S. Get after him a lot earlier. Glad we came in at the last minute to sign Zach. I wonder how many other great players we miss because the coordinators make poor decisions. Looking forward to next season. Go Cougs!

  • 96 U Flower Mound, TX
    Dec. 21, 2018 9:08 p.m.

    Well played, but the other team won the first half. Don't you feel horrible that they won the meaningless first half?

  • gridlockisbetter Enterprise, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 8:55 p.m.

    I agree with Water Rocket. When a guy is 8 for 8 passing and you've only scored 7 points at halftime, then you didn't have him throw it enough.

  • New to Utah Provo, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 8:48 p.m.

    Zach Wilson was perfect in passing 18-18, a decisive 49-18 victory. This clearly exceeded expectations. This was a game that promises lots of reruns on ESPN. Boise was a good location for this game, defeat the Blue curse and get lots of positive exposure. This was a gift to BYU’s football program.

  • THEREALND Mishawaka, IN
    Dec. 21, 2018 8:49 p.m.

    Food for thought, Western gave up 173 points in their 4 games prior to this one. BYU'S 49 points is actually less than both Ohio and Toledo scored against the Broncos.

  • water rocket Magna, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 8:35 p.m.

    Considering the fact that Wilson threw for less than half the number of passes from WMU, and still more than doubled their yardage, with zero interceptions and a 100% completion rate, I would say that the coaches need to use the pass weapon much more in the future. Who knows, maybe they could have won a few more games this year if they hadn't been so focused on the run game.

  • Oh Really? Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 8:15 p.m.

    @who am I sir?

    Classy comments, sir!

    As to the game:

    Sitake suppressed his inner Kyle and BYU did today what they’ve failed to do in the recent past — loosen up the reins and play with offensive abandon. It truly did look like BYU of old in the 2nd half. Throw early, throw often, throw long, and throw short. Use the TE, even two at once. (More than one BYU team used two TEs, even had two drafted one year) Use the pass to set up the run, instead of the other way around.

    The D-line put pressure on all day. Rotated lineman in and out like the Philadelphia 🦅 or the Utes. Their big boys played hard on every down.

    If not for Wilson, Takitaki would’ve been MVP. 19 tackles! Amazing!

    I may have to re-evaluate this staff. Next year’s schedule, however is tough. The 4-9 year was largely a function of over-scheduling causing injuries. Good luck next year, Cougars!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    Dec. 21, 2018 8:11 p.m.

    Good way to finish the season

  • Sparkley Briefs New York, NY
    Dec. 21, 2018 8:04 p.m.

    I have yet to watch the game, but it sounds like the kind of game that BYU fans have been waiting for - a game where the offense goes Popeye-the-Sailor-after-eating-spinach on the other team’s defense. This is a huge result for the program. The excitement generated by Wilson and a fun bowl win will go a long way toward revving up the fans and getting them out to the stadium next year. I’m really hoping that this is the start of some momentum for Sitake and crew.

  • razorback South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 8:02 p.m.

    Nice win for the Cougs. A lot of fun watching Wilson. Nice throws downfield. The other half of him going 18 for 18 was that the receivers were 18 for 18 and it's been awhile since we have seen the Cougar receivers play that well. There were a couple of really nice catches including the one that Bushman ripped away from the defender who appeared to have a pick until Bushman took it away. Defense played pretty well across the board. The only disappointment I had in the second half was the same kid running into the punter twice.

    The most interesting sideline shot was late in the game when they were showing Wilson on the sideline rubbing his face and chin while the announcers talked him up. I think Wilson was trying to find some whiskers somewhere on that baby face.

  • byufootballrocks Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 7:42 p.m.

    @Uteology "Which is why this was a trap game for BYU. BYU woke up in the 2nd half. Sound familiar? Next year Utah wins 9th straight, BYU goes 7-5.
    ----------------------
    Sorry, I know some Ute fans can't handle it when BYU wins decisively and then come on this board and want to rain on BYU's parade...and have you noticed they seem to bring a crystal ball with them...

    But in just eight months the Utes have to come into Provo and face this guy Wilson - who crunched them - in their season 2019 opening game. (Wilson and BYU would have triumphed anyway in the Utah game if BYU's defense hadn't had injuries and depth issues and then folded).

    I wouldn't be so confident.

  • estreetshuffle Window Rock, AZ
    Dec. 21, 2018 7:08 p.m.

    Was working. Excited to see game replay and see more Cougar Football in 8.5 months. Hope the Utes win as well.

  • Caddis Terry, MT
    Dec. 21, 2018 7:11 p.m.

    I loved seeing Tanner end his career at BYU on a high note. Perfect pass. That for me was the high note. Nice!
    Of course I am in awe of what Wison did. Takitaki! Wow! Defensive secondary was outta sight. In a good way. Guanwalaku (sp?), Collie, etc etc etc. So many people involved in so many ways.
    That was fun!

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 21, 2018 6:47 p.m.

    byufootballrocks - Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 6:06 p.m.
    Wow.

    That's BYU....

    That second half, totally dominant, throwing the ball up and down the field with confidence - that's it.

    Zach Wilson is for real, and BYU is for real.

    Can't wait for next year.

    And Utah...

    ----------

    Which is why this was a trap game for BYU.

    BYU woke up in the 2nd half.

    Sound familiar?

    Next year Utah wins 9th straight, BYU goes 7-5.

  • don jackson Atlanta, GA
    Dec. 21, 2018 6:32 p.m.

    Congrats BYU players & coaches great game and spectacular second half. Zach Wilson is the real deal and this victory can help build momentum going into another tough year. BYU played with intensity when it had to on both offense & defense. Kudos to Sitake, more wins than losses is success.

  • Bob67 Glenn Dale, MD
    Dec. 21, 2018 6:31 p.m.

    I think Zach's performance and picture for this article have earned him the title "Babyface Wilson."

    Opposing teams will have to be on the lookout for him!

  • KLL Coug Visalia, CA
    Dec. 21, 2018 6:31 p.m.

    Nice!

  • CO Ute , 00
    Dec. 21, 2018 6:24 p.m.

    Congrats on a nice win to the Cougar fans.
    See you next fall with a team that is, shall I say, a bit stronger than the opponent you played today.

  • idablu Idaho Falls, ID
    Dec. 21, 2018 6:22 p.m.

    I’m happy for the seniors and all the players. What a great way to go into the Holidays. Incredible performances by both Wilson and Takitaki. Loss of Sione and Corbin will be huge, but just about everyone else will be returning.

    Not getting well-deserved accolades are the secondary. They were pretty much lights-out with very few mistakes. As a group that was their best outing of the year.

    Great adjustments coming out after the half, firing on all cylinders after a miserable first half.

  • cougarsrock Springville, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 6:20 p.m.

    Glad to see the Cougs learned from their mistake of playing conservative in the 2nd half of the ute game thinking they had the game in the bag.... making no excuses but this is exactly what they should have done to the Utes !!

  • AlwaysAnAggie Hyrum, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 6:10 p.m.

    Congratulations to the Cougs for a fine win. Now if the Utes can just make it a sweep.

  • byufootballrocks Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 6:06 p.m.

    Wow.

    That's BYU....

    That second half, totally dominant, throwing the ball up and down the field with confidence - that's it.

    Zach Wilson is for real, and BYU is for real.

    Can't wait for next year.

    And Utah...

  • Jumpyman Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 6:00 p.m.

    I only watched the 4th quarter since I was working. Why are bowl games scheduled during the day on a work/school day? I would rather have 2 games at once in the evening on ESPN and ESPN2. But then again, why is there even a bowl game in Boise? and why is a 6-6 team even in a bowl game? I suppose that the answer to the second question is because there is a a bowl game in Boise.

    Great second half by BYU. Let's see if this is something that can be built on for next year. Zach Wilson looked pretty good, but it was against an underpowered Western Michigan.

  • Who am I sir? Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 5:46 p.m.

    Well done, cougars!

    With about 8 minutes to go I was really into the game. Would the cougars leave Wilson in to possibly break records or let Mangum have his moment in front of home town fans! I know what the cougars of the 70's would have done. When Mangum came in I said to myself what I would do is tell Western Michigan he was going to pass and then give him the chance rather than just handing off. I don't know if they told Western Michigan but I was happy for him to get a touchdown. And I was really happy for Wilson.

    Almost a perfect half of football. And I don't know if others had the same reaction but I could see the plays developing - it was that obvious.

    Well build on that half for the next 9 months and we'll see you in Provo next year.

  • Joe Schmoe Orem, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 5:44 p.m.

    Great second half. Glad the coaches saw the light and let Wilson throw the ball. The kid brings back memories of Cougars of old. So glad we get to see him in Provo for 3 more years! What a game!

    Go Cougars!

  • PacUtes Orange County, CA
    Dec. 21, 2018 5:44 p.m.

    BYU finally won a game in Boise...

  • SameJersey Kaysville, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 5:37 p.m.

    Wow! Great job, Cougars!

  • Gruncle Ralph Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 5:37 p.m.

    Maybe coach Grimes will start trusting Wilson and let him carry the offense and throw the ball more next season.

  • 93 COUGAR Orem, UT
    Dec. 21, 2018 5:35 p.m.

    Holy cow! What a second half by Wilson and the Cougars! That was a good old fashioned BYU Cougars beatdown. Wilson is the real deal. So glad he is a Cougar. 351 qb rating is incredible. Glad so many ute fans tuned into the game to see some Cougar football!

    Go Cougars!