@NEAD "If Alta wants to increase parking so badly, why
don't they build a garage? I'm with Save Our Canyons--no more pavement
than currently exists, no matter how much money the ski resort owners stand to
make."I agree - going up - not out - is a good compromise -
particularly since run off water in a parking structure is more easily contained
and limits spread of oil particles etc. into drinking water. It also eliminates
the need to plow massive surface lots and provides a relatively dry place to
organize your ski equipment before entering/exiting your car. I would love to
see the footprint of parking at all the resorts reduced and replaced with
compact structures. However; why does Save Our Canyons oppose
building a lift in Grizzly Gulch so people staying at Alta can ski to Little
Cottonwood without driving their car all the way around the canyon. People in
Park City should be able to ski over Guardsman Pass to access the Cottonwoods
without the 80 mile 2 plus hour (round trip) contribution to bad air quality.
That kind of obstructionism does NOT save anyone's canyon. It merely
aggravates existing problems.
If Alta wants to increase parking so badly, why don't they build a garage?
I'm with Save Our Canyons--no more pavement than currently exists, no
matter how much money the ski resort owners stand to make.
The parking mess at the top of the canyons is a making of the ski resorts. They
have only themselves to blame. They continue to pack more and people on to the
slopes to the point it is walk to wall skiers. The resorts could have
implemented their own transportation system. At their own expense. But they want
to socialize the costs and privatize the profits.That said, there
needs to be a large transportation hub where people can park and catch a bus, A
bus that runs every 15 minutes at peak times. The current plan to have a
transportation hub at the gravel pit at the mouth of BCC is too far off. Take
half of the Old Mill Golf Course and make it transportation hub.
80,000 acres without roads, grazing, timber harvesting, drinking water and fire
hydrants is dangerous to life, wildlife, and property.The 2018
California wildfires proves that Central Wasatch Commission's NRCA -
National Recreation and Conservation Area is dangerous.Plus, this
Becker/McAdams NRCA legislation ban ski resort expansion forever. What's
the point of hundreds of million in mass transit to tiny resorts like Brighton
with 1,050 acres.Our ski resorts need to triple in size not frozen
in the past creating ski resort monopolies pricing local off their ski
slopes.The NRCA will also create building development monopolies at
ski resort base camps.If Veil buys Snowbird, why should we tied the
hands of Veil to expand to provide more ski product? NRCA is bad policy.
stevo123 " NO one wants to ride lifts all day to get there, (and back)
the bus will work for the PC areas as well "Really? Every time
i ski, i ride lifts all day long - between each run as i move across the resort
and back. EVERYONE who alpine skis takes lifts all day long - its a big part
of the gig.PC and SL County are not in the same bus service area -
and its still the same issue of spending hours driving around the mountain when
you can literally see Brighton from the top of Park City resort - you just
can't ski there and get backInstall a couple of lifts - problem
solvedWhy is it that Save Our Canyons can "compromise" by
locking more land up in wilderness (where i will never be able to go) but it is
somehow problematic to parallel guardsman pass (an area that is already
disturbed) with lift service - cutting travel and drive times
End roadside parking via parking tickets at $100.00 a pop one unpaid the car is
booted. Build park and ride lots on the mouth of both canyons and run buses. If
that means less skiers well. the ones that went up early will be happy....
SMcloud&drski: To take the bus we will need parking at the bottom. @ Counter
intelligence: NO one wants to ride lifts all day to get there, (and back) the
bus will work for the PC areas as well
The solution is there: Ride the bus!It is simply not possible for
everyone to drive up the canyon. I know it's more convenient but there are
some real physical limitations to widening the roads and adding more parking.
people need to ride the bus!!!
I was a big supporter of the Mountain Accord and the Central Wasatch Commission
- till i started reading the fine print.The One Wasatch concept
(unlike ski link) would have connected all of the Park City and Cottonwood
resorts with minimal lifts and ski-able terrain. Canyons to Snowbird without
the car and minimal environmental impact.ironically
environmentalists fought against that because apparently they like Park City
people driving all the way around the mountain to park at Snowbird.With
the bigger irony being that the Park City - Canyons portion of One Wasatch is
already connected - Alta's refusal to participate in the charade leaves the
Little/Big connection open to happen - the ONLY thing environmental extremists
have stopped is the Brighton - Park City connection - the linchpin whose absence
makes all the parking and driving more necessaryOnce again
environmental fundamentalism makes things worsebuild One Wasatch so
people can ski there - not drive there
I'm curious as to why more folks aren't riding public transit to the
ski resorts??Do they not come often enough?Are they too
crowded when they do run? I did a quick check at UTA's website and it
looks like they go to Alta and Brighton about every half hour.I
mostly do snowmobiling now, but I'm genuinely curious why people don't
ride the bus.Maybe the ski resorts should charge for parking??
What we (OK fine, I) really need is fewer skiers.