Hey WhitJust find someone that doesn’t run the dive on first down
80% of the time. Any Opposing DC can stop that if they follow your tendencies!
Been killing us for years!
“but people in our area know that he wasn't thrilled working with
Whittingham”Provide irrefutable evidence of this being
sammyg - Springville, UTDec. 18, 2018 6:34 a.m.And how many
OC's did the Utes run through since becoming part of the PAC 10.2 ?I've lost track, please help me!----8
OCs8 wins over the cupcake down south9th is comming
Too of the World: "2. He can recruit anyone he wants."To
Sacramento State? Good luck with that.
I haven’t heard the “PAC 10.2” in quite a few years. Where ya
been Sammy? How’s that independent .001 working out?
It's an odd move, but people in our area know that he wasn't thrilled
working with Whittingham, and $625k is plenty in this area.The funny
thing is that Sacramento isn't a football town. There is sac state, uc
Davis, I think Sierra College has a team now, but it's not real news.
We're not a big sports city since the kings took an ugly turn a decade ago.
This isn't like coaching in Texas, nobody hears about the team.
But, Troy comes home to his roots, he's a huge name and gets a
solid garuntee salary, and can run his own show. That's the win for him.
I've worked for myself and worked for others, I prefer working
for myself. Maybe I'll catch a few games next year, he was
legendary coaching in high school here.
Sammy:How many times have your cougs lost to the Utes of the
“PAC 10.2”? I’ve lost track, please help me!
And how many OC's did the Utes run through since becoming part of the PAC
10.2 ?I've lost track, please help me!
Now the offensive coordinators aren't even waiting to be fired at Utah.
They just leave on their own.
Another ute coach decides to trade up. Some thing is wrong in uteville.
Utah has a lot of talent returning next year, but with a lot of coaching
turnover, it may unfortunately go to waste.
He took a rather huge step down, but then I look at the reasons.1.
Now he's a head coach.2. He can recruit anyone he wants.3. He
can create and install exactly the kind of offense he wants.4. His family
is back home.5. We really do not know precisely how much less he will
earn. That figure may now be out but I couldn't find it. With salary and
bonus he earned $612,500 is past season with the Utes. There are some very
wealthy folks in the Sac area and we will never know just how much he is paid
over and above.6. He is going to be a great head coach. I was stoked
when Coach Whit hired him and this next year was going to be a super season for
the Utes, barring injuries.Perhaps is wasn't the 'step
down' that it appears to be at first glance.Best of success,
Head Coach Taylor. It will be fun to follow your success. Give our best to Tom
Hanks, alumnus of the Sacramento State Hornets.Go Hornets.
Coaching at the top college level is one of the most stressful occupations on
the planet. To reach the highest level, most coaches at the top had to uproot
their families many times, travel long hours, and have their success measured by
the whims of teenagers. And you are tested each week in front of a national
audience. In the past coaches could get a month or so to relax and
take a vacation with the family. Now they get little or no vacation and the
hours are long and often on the road. The rewards are great, but sooner or
later you probably will be fired and trashed by the media. Are you sure you and
your family want the job?Troy Taylor made decision to get off the
career coaching ladder to a big-time HC job. Now he will have a lot more time
with his family and he can drive two or three hours for nearly all of his
recruiting trips. Yeah, it was a big paycut. But look at what Coach Gary A.
gave up to return to Utah, or what Urban Meyer is giving up.
@JD - Las Vegas, NVDec. 17, 2018 1:34 p.m."Most Ute fans are not
sad at the loss of Troy Taylor. Truth!"Speak for yourself. Most
Utah fans I know really liked TT and are worried now that he is gone. Our offense was improving, found an identity, found a rhythm and was putting
up points. I'd love to have seen what a 3rd season with TT would have been
like.But that's college football.
Troy Taylor likes to throw the ball. The Utes WERE throwing the ball. Nobody was
catching the ball. The Utes returned to smash mouth football and ran the ball
down peoples throats and won. The tight ends became more involved. Britian Covey
became a go-to guy. Long, downfield passes still didn't happen with much
regularity and they often were still dropped. I can't believe that this was
the offense that Coach Taylor was envisioning but he did well play calling with
what he was asked to do. His line began to pass block almost as well as they
opened holes. In short--we are not getting 4 star pass catchers and should be
content with talented wr's who can make a brilliant play from time to time
but not on a consistent basis. Utah needs to be what it has been forever. Aim
for a little more balance with the throw game but pitch and catch if necessary
and really keep them guessing with your ground game which includes QB's who
are athletes. Who knows? Maybe a once a decade receiver will spring up through
the ranks, but the next OC at Utah better figure out that the offensive identity
is probably going to remain the same. Best of luck to Coach Taylor and the
I am sorry to see coach Taylor go. I have no idea what the factors were in his
decision, but he could have been great for Utah. I will say that having a head
coach who wants to feature the run game coupled with an OC who prefers to
feature the passing attack is not a good formula for success.As a
side note, any one who watches the pro game will quickly see that the passing
game is a big part of every pro team out there. Even the running backs have to
be good pass catchers to make it in the pros.
My hope is that Utah AD Mark Harlan fires Whittingham today! This absurd!!! He
is not what Utah needs at all! Hire Lane and Monty Kiffen!
Wow 11 OC'S in the last 13 years ! I will bet there is a lot of interest
out there to be the 12th ........
Sanefan "Another December and another new OC at Utah."That's
the last thing a Cougar fan wants to hear, right? New OC, beat BYU. New OC,
Beat BYU. Give them an OC, beat BYU. New OC, beat BYU."If
he's making more as an HC at Sacramento State than an OC at Utah and money
is his motivation, good on him."Taylor is from Sacramento. Played
high school ball there. Coached high school ball there. Played college ball at
Cal. Had to take a pay cut to return home, but keep in mind that a cut in D1
football still means pretty good money to the average Joe.
This is not a good thing. Sorry to see him go, as the offense was doing much
better with promise of next year being gangbusters. What is with Witt and OCs?
This is having a very negative effect on Whitt's perception with many of us
who are supporters.
@Blah BlahWell put. I'm not calling for Kyle's resignation nor
am I cancelling my season tickets for next year. I'm just stating the
obvious. Going thru an offensive coordinator every year or so is not a good
look for the program and is detrimental to recruiting offensive talent. I have
no idea why Coach Taylor left and wish him success at his next job.
65TossPowerTrap - Salmon, IDDec. 17, 2018 11:08 a.m.HC at Sacramento
State or OC at Utah. Hmmmm.------OC fired at Utah, hired
Let's not forget Kyle had to step in at 0-2 to force Taylor to feed the
beast, aka Moss, more. After that Utah went 6-1.For our OC, Whitt
might be a nightmare to work for but he continues to have a solid defense. We
just need an average P12 offense and I think we were headed in that
direction.I wish Taylor the best, next man up!
I have no knowledge of guess of what happened. Logic however suggests that Kyle
likes to run first (and second) and pass on an as needed basis. Taylor seems to
be the pass guy. I am sure Taylor had to feel like his wings were clipped each
time we lost and he had drawn up the most fantastic passing play and Kyle said
simply..."we have to establish the run". When we win, I am
sure Taylor thought it was an ugly win (25+ carries by our big boys in the
backfield)...I hope there is a good option out there who is a
"run first" and pass well as needed guy. Taylor was good but not a good
fit. My opinion.
I really believe that Coach Taylor, and maybe more importantly his family,
wanted to move back home. It can be hard being further away from family. If I
could I'd move back to my home state in a heartbeat. I believe if this
opportunity hadn't come up he would have stayed because things were
definitely starting to click, which happens as you start to get in recruits that
reflect your style or who have bought in during the recruiting process. Good
luck to Coach Taylor and now onward and upward to a new OC. Go Utes!
Another December and another new OC at Utah. If he's making more as an HC
at Sacramento State than an OC at Utah and money is his motivation, good on him.
But in all likelihood neither are true. Something is rotten on the Hill!
I think it is funny how anybody who isn't spouting the party line must be a
fan of that "team down south." FT has got comments from 2 separate
trolls yet he specifically stated that he is a 40 year season ticket holder to
those games on the hill.Quick cue in here Ute fans: You can have a
dissenting opinion about the state of the program and not be a "hater"
from another school.I, for one, don't even know if this will
make a difference to the program at all. Clearly the Utes can win on defense
and special teams alone or Whitt would have been shown the door years ago. I
mean look at what was accomplished with a mediocre offense this year!I agree with another poster that we don't know, and probably never will
know, the motivation for Taylor to take over the HC job at a lower division
school without much of a winning history. But, then again, no one asked us and
why should they? I'm sure his reasons are sound for him and his family and
that should be all that matters. Good luck to the man!!Next,
though, we will see if "next man up" can truly be sustained. Peace out y'all!
Most Ute fans are not sad at the loss of Troy Taylor. Truth!
Seems like a bad move for him but he has to make these decisions on his own with
far more considerations than I will apply. OTOH I never really became one
of his converts. The offensive scheme this season seemed a lot like it did in
the last few, just with more catches made, better running back play, and
better/more accurate throws. I would only implore the new OC to not
throw the wide receiver screen often if at all. Calling that play fewer times*
was Troy's best quality IMO. Also quit trying to think you are going
to 'out coach' the defense by running a long sweep to the short side
or calling a running play on 3rd and 10. You arent fooling anyone. Defenses
react. They dont just run to where they think you might call the play. *Still not few enough for my tastes.
Personally, I think Taylor did a pretty good job with our Offense amid the 2
seasons he was on the hill. And in light of that, I think had he remained on
the hill in that OC slot for another year or two, he most likely would have
landed another head coaching gig at the FBS level, for a lot more money. Now he
can STILL do that as an HC at an FCS school, but I think the path to FBS HC
would be longer at Sacramento St.Oh well. Good luck Troy!Looks like Harding will be calling the shots at the Holiday Bowl.GO UTES!!!
Wow, the media spin on this is well underway. Personally, I think it's a
bad move professionally for Taylor. Regardless of his relationship with Coach
Whit, Whit would have kept him as he already doesn't like the PR of the
revolving door at OC. Taylor probably could have parlayed another year or 2 of
success at Utah into a better OC or Head coaching position. Professionally took
a big pay cut to go home to get stuck in a program worse than Eastern Washington
where he came from. There has to be something personal about it. As fans, we
just don't know all the motivating and mitigating factors.
FT, when another school selects your position coach for a Head Coach,
that's a "bad look"? You've got that backwards, but then you
have no experience with that as no one wants your coaches.
And in the long run, the program continues to grow and expectations continue to
rise...but a total of 10 points vs UW in 2 games is why we're not in the
Rose Bowl...Next man up...moving forward...Go Utes!
Jim Harding will be an excellent choice.
Nothing being reported in the Sacramento Newspaper about a new coach hiring!
HC at Sacramento State or OC at Utah. Hmmmm.
I think it is funny that the BYU faithful are trying to spin this a bad thing.
If you have a successful program you are going to lose coaches. That is just the
way it is. If USU had not had an 11-2 season do you thing Matt Wells would have
gotten a job offer. Utah has a strong enough program that they will attract a
successful OC. I think Gary Anderson is a good example of finding out that $$$
isn't everything. Coach Taylor is going home. It is not surprising that
after a 4-9 season followed up with a 6-6 season that the BYU staff is still
intact. Coach Grimes did not get an offer and no one poached Coach
Sitake...amazing. As long as Utah continues to be successful they are going to
lose coaches. That is just the nature of the beast. And sometimes, just
sometimes, you end up with a better coach. All of us in Cache Valley are
smiling. I got my Christmas wish for the next 10 years when USU hired Gary
One OC Utah should hire is Tee Martin if is still available. And start looking
at coaches in the SEC or ACC and get that Florida and Georgia pipeline going
before Dennis Erickson left
Another new OC at the U. Welcome to random Monday in December.
@uterebel50 - an FCS school is not a sign of being in a good place. An offer is
one thing but if your coaches start taking the offers that's a bad sign.
FBS offensive coordinator in a P5 conference or head coach FCS. All Taylor
needed to do was look at Jay Hill as an example...Hill has been incredibly
successful at Weber St but...he's still at Weber St. If Taylor thinks this
will parlay into an FBS head coaching job he's probably mistaken. So there
are clearly other reasons for his departure and most of those reasons reflect
poorly on Utah Football.This does not reflect well on us.
When Coach Anderson left Utah to become head coach at Utah State there was an
article expressing concern that he might raid the BYU coaching staff. Well
it's quite telling that Utah will lose at least 3 coaches and a couple
others have received offers. But that's what happens when you have great
coaches in successful programs. As they say, "Next man up!" And the
cougar's staff remains intact.
@uterebelI'm an alumni and have been a season ticket holder in Rice
Eccles for 40 years. Coach Taylor is taking a significant pay cut to become a
head coach at an FBS school. Maybe he just waned to return home, maybe he
thinks this is a path to bigger and better things or maybe his relationship with
Coach Whitt is as sour as has been reported. In any case, another offensive
coordinator is moving on after a short stint under Kyle.
FT, when other schools come looking at your assistant coaches with an eye toward
promoting them, that's a sign your program is in a good place. Sorry no
one is interested in the assistant coaches at your school.
I don't care how this is spun by the Utes, but this is a bad look and loss
for the program. Kyle has got a reputation of either running off or ruining