Girl who died fled intensely poor Guatemalan village

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  • Thomas Jefferson Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 17, 2018 11:43 a.m.

    This is not name calling. At least try to be honest in your dealings.

    Its quite telling to see how heartless our 'religious conservative' fellow humans can be.

    But then I have know that about the right since I became and adult and started paying attention. They spend so much time demonizing 'them' while claiming that their religion makes them moral. If you think that is morality then you dont understand the concept.

  • imsmarterthanyou Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 17, 2018 8:39 a.m.

    I'm sorry but the USA can not be the home to every "refugee" in the world. Lets allow other countries to do the right thing, step up, and help them out. I say, stop them at the border and absolutely, do not let them in. Mexico can have them.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Dec. 17, 2018 7:56 a.m.

    DN subscriber - there is no where in that part of the country that the next town is 90 minutes away, even driving at school bus speeds. That part of the story just doesn't add up.

  • stand up for truth Lehi, UT
    Dec. 16, 2018 10:12 p.m.

    shamrock - Salt Lake City, UT says:
    "Who among us wouldn't do everything possible to flee to a country where our children were better fed and safer? To demonize these immigrants shows a startling lack of empathy and compassion."

    I agree no immigrant should be demonized. That said, we need to build the wall to prevent such tragedies. Ten years ago President Obama was for building the wall as was Hillary Clinton, as was Chuck Schumer. Why the about face? Why are they demonizing a President who is trying to stop these tragedies and enforce lawful immigration?

    Build the wall!

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Dec. 16, 2018 8:10 p.m.

    There are ways to immigrate legally and lawfully without putting yourself and family at risk.

    When you put yourself at risk, then accept the risk.

    Being dropped off in the desert and walking a long way to the border, then being detained has inherent risk associated with it.

    This is tragic, and avoidable, if this is something to do with dehydration then the trip, which the parents willingly choose to take, is responsible for the tragic outcome.

    By all accounts they took care of the problem once they knew there was a problem.

  • ConservativeCommonTater Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 16, 2018 2:59 p.m.

    It is truly sad that this girl died because of what her father put her through by making her walk through the desert.

    Per the D-news and other national media, her dehydration, if that was the cause of her death, began days before getting to the border where there were no medical facilities.

    Admittance to the U.S. for people who are clearly economic refugees, they would have been refused admittance to the U.S based on their economic pleas.

    For those that say we should open our doors to everyone that's poor and wants a better life, wouldn't that be most of the other 7 Billion people on earth? Why discriminate against them?

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 16, 2018 1:25 p.m.

    The homeless people of Salt Lake City and America in general have a kinship with the homeless people of the world. Poverty is the creation of unfair economic systems.

  • shamrock Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 16, 2018 12:43 p.m.

    Who among us wouldn't do everything possible to flee to a country where our children were better fed and safer? To demonize these immigrants shows a startling lack of empathy and compassion.

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Dec. 16, 2018 12:24 p.m.

    I'm glad the Associated Press has given Jakelin Amei Rosmery Caal Maquin a name. She deserves to be humanized rather than be the subject of partisan cable news chest-thumping.

    Her life needs to be understood -- a "message life" instead of the "message death" Jason Chaffetz was trying to spin it as.

    There has been no indication Jakelin nor her father were carrying any deadly infectious diseases. She and her dad were not part of MS-13 or any middle east terrorist group. They were not transporting drugs. I wonder if "Fox and Friends" were disappointed Jakelin appeared to be a little girl without any apparent dangerous connections.

    I think we all need to say a little prayer for Jakelin. May she find peace and less hostility in her new surroundings. I would like to tell her that while there is an element in our country who exclaim, "Her death was a message! I doubt none of her family members will want to migrate to the United States now!" those people represent a definite minority.

    Above all, I hope Jakelin finds no politics in the Great Beyond. May it be a place where people are simply considered people, with no distinctions made for economic class, nationality, or skin color.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 16, 2018 11:56 a.m.

    Enough with the blaming Border Patrol. This was not "dehydration" but something much more severe with no symptoms until long after she was apprehended, certainly starting much earlier.
    Father and daughter were well when apprehended, waited 8 hours for the only bus available to return from hauling a full load of unaccompanied minors to the BP office. (50 miles from border, they did not cross at a crossing point).

    "...while they were on the bus, [the girl] began to feel warm and uncomfortable and began to vomit, and [dad told the driver the girl was ill. ...agents radioed ahead to have EMTs available.... When they arrived, 90 min later, she had stopped breathing. Emergency crews revived her, and she was airlifted to an El Paso, Texas, hospital, to which the father was driven.
    The girl died... roughly 19 hours after she began throwing up on the bus and 27 hours after being apprehended. Officials said she had swelling on her brain and liver failure. An autopsy was scheduled to determine the cause of death. The results could take weeks."

    Hundreds of illegal migrants die in the desert every year due to poor choices.
    Don't blame BP, they save hundreds every year!

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Dec. 16, 2018 11:25 a.m.

    At some point one needs to decide what drives them, their faith, the nationality, or their party.

    If you put your faith first and foremost I don't see how someone can say "they aren't American", so I don't have a responsibility for helping them. Not all solutions are that these people must come to these shores so that they enjoy the blessing that the generations before us sacrificed so that we have. But we also must realize that there were those before us who did sacrifice so that we can have what we can have.

    What ever the judgement may hold, I'm not sure I want my answer to be that I didn't help others because it would impact those blessing I currently enjoy. Christ ministry was all about helping those who could not help themselves... it wasn't about amasing as much luxury as one can to ones own self.

    I am not perfect in this regard one bit. I look at the life I have created for myself and question is it too much. I have had a refuge live in my house for a year with my family. It was a wonderful experience. It was also a challenge because of cultures. Great things come through sacrifice - not doing the minimum requested. Still working on that one.

    Dec. 16, 2018 10:28 a.m.

    We need a better way. Those that qualify for asylum need a program that allows them to make arrangements before they come. PEW puts the numbers at 13-20%. The rest are economic immigrants and need to come on green cards.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Dec. 16, 2018 9:32 a.m.

    Tugging on heart strings doesn't solve the myriad of problems involved here.
    Disconnecting ourselves from morality and humanity doesn't, either.

  • Schwa Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 16, 2018 8:37 a.m.

    I've been reading horrifying comments on this story from other publications where people are blaming the parents for her death. She was in US custody, and died of dehydration. She was not given proper medical attention. This was a human life. Those that say they are a child of God must also remember that this girl was one as well. America must do better.

  • NeilT Harrisville, UT
    Dec. 16, 2018 8:28 a.m.

    This is about poverty, violence, and corruption in third world countries. These people are human beings that have found themselves in desperate circumstances. Trump and his supporters villify, demonize, and dehumanize immigrants and portray them as criminal invaders. Try to show the human side of the issue and the far right labels you a liberal or a leftist. What a sad situation. Legal immigration is not an option for the poor and impoverished.

  • Gavidaae Madison, IN
    Dec. 16, 2018 7:04 a.m.

    So everyone who has this standard of living should be let into the US? Isn't that more than 70% of the world? And if you let all those people from third world countries into a first world country, doesn't that just lower the standard of living for all the citizens? Won't you still have as much poverty because there are not enough jobs; definitely not enough low skilled jobs that will support a family in the US. Wouldn't taxes go up to support all these people? Don't we send these countries hundreds of millions of dollars in aid already?
    Tugging on heart strings doesn't solve the myriad of problems involved here.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Dec. 16, 2018 6:16 a.m.

    Ah, but she was part of a group of "Very bad people"..... so......

    She died trying to find a better and safer future with her family, a story many of us in Utah should be familiar with. Maybe someday when hearts soften these people will be remembered for their sacrifices they made rather than being characterized as rapist and murders, and very bad people.

    We need border control, but trying to come to American should not lead to anyones life being lost in US government custody.

  • Immifriend Sandy, UT
    Dec. 16, 2018 2:41 a.m.

    One thing the investigation should seek to determine is whether the father was allowed to accompany the daughter to the hospital. The trauma of separating a child from a parent at such a moment would not be a plus.
    -- John Jackson