Reports: Boy Scouts of America may file for bankruptcy

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  • scollins68106 ,
    Dec. 18, 2018 9:54 a.m.

    Sad, what a great organization and an excellent outlet for so many young boys as they approach manhood. NOTHING this organization teaches is out of bounds or even approaches controversy. It simply teaches respect, love for the outdoors, and a belief and hope for something more in everyone of us. Looks like the lawyers and handful of bad actors win yet again. Sad

  • Roper-IN , 00
    Dec. 14, 2018 8:54 p.m.

    I imagine there will be many sponsors who are not willing to have their donations going toward legal defense instead of programming for scouts. The writing is on the wall. Thank you, BSA, for helping my boys and so many other boys learn to do their duty to God and country. I'm sad it's come to this.

  • shadowfx Chandler, AZ
    Dec. 14, 2018 11:22 a.m.

    The Scouting Program went downhill a long, long time ago. Why? The ultra-liberals groups protesting to their major donors on discrimination.
    Once one of there main source of income flow started to dry up, they caved.
    They chased corporate america and got money flowing.
    Scouting memberships started declining.
    Still ultra-liberals were outraged and complained about gay scouts and leaders and they caved.
    Churches pulled out and memberships declined quickly.
    The ultra-liberals were still not satisfied and wanted total inclusion, they caved.
    The nail in the coffin and the grave was in the process of being dug.
    More churches pulled and others announced they were pulling, i.e The Church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints, Dec 31, 2019. One of the largest US sponsors of scouts.
    Their last attempt, brought about by the ultra-liberals, combine girls and boys.
    Well, look at what we have.
    A Bankrupt Organization.
    Also executives in UT making over $200K didn't help either, as well as in other states.
    Boy Scouts did this to themselves.
    Thank you formerly Boy Scouts of America for destroying Lord Bayden Powell's organization. It took you 103 years 11 months and 18 days in the USA.

  • RickBob Paducah, KY
    Dec. 14, 2018 10:33 a.m.

    Impartial 7 - "This is what happens when you let religion infect a good program."

    Seriously? Have you never studied the history of the Scouting program?Lord Robert Baden Powell designed it to be a faith based organization. All Scouts, at one time, were required to acknowledge belief in a "higher power".

    BSA chose the easier wrong rather than the harder right in pursuit of the almighty dollar.

    Ther were free to choose, but are not free from the consequences of their choice.

  • ji_ Ketchikan, AK
    Dec. 14, 2018 9:01 a.m.

    Some posters appear to be happy that the BSA has fallen on hard times. I regret that any such sentiment exists among us. The BSA was a good friend for a long time. We can still be friends. I am saddened by their difficulties, and I wish them well. Let's not kick a man when he is down, so to speak.

  • RedShirtUofU Andoria, UT
    Dec. 14, 2018 8:51 a.m.

    To "UtahBruin" I don't think you read the article. The new programs have nothing to do with filing bankruptcy. It was lawsuits over abuse and compensating victims.

    To "Impartial7 " you do realize that without religion there never would have been Boy Scouts. It is too bad that you can't see that it has been the BSA movement towards political correctness and environmentalism that has killed it.

  • Mick , 00
    Dec. 14, 2018 6:04 a.m.

    Maudine-

    When the main source of your funding (several Christian churches) pull out of your program you don’t have money or backing to fight the lawsuits. The two most certainly are related.

    Impartial-

    The relationship between religion and the BSA go back muck longer than 40 years. The LDS church has been partners for over 100 years. But you are right about one thing. When politics get involved, things go south. And this is what happened. BSA allowed political correctness and politics in general to invade their program.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Dec. 14, 2018 4:37 a.m.

    We have several Eagle Scouts in our family. It has been a proud tradition. We have devoted a lot of our time in the Cubbing and Scout programs.

    When scouting followed the world instead of their time-honored values and morals, the whole thing started to crumble! With the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints pulling out of the BSA, the demise of this organization was inevitable! They are one of the biggest sponsors.

    Thank you, BSA, for when you had the backbone to stand up to PC liberals and didn't try to please those who put pressure on you to TELL you who could be a part of this program. Your fate awaits you!

  • rogerdpack Orem, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 10:45 p.m.

    Hope they can right the ship, the BSA does great things for youths...

  • sashabill Morgan Hill, CA
    Dec. 13, 2018 9:29 p.m.

    This is totally unsurprising. Institutions and organizations which embrace "political correctness," and try to be everything for everybody, often end up not being much of anything for anybody.

    I was around during the 1960s when several of the mainline Protestant denominations began traveling the politically correct route, moving toward liberal political advocacy and moral relativism. Since that time, they have experienced significant declines, not only in percentages, but in absolute numbers -- some of them nearly in a state of free fall. In the scriptures, it's called "Salt which has lost its savor."

    Impartial7, No it wasn't religion that infected a good program.

  • Mainly Me Werribee, 00
    Dec. 13, 2018 6:28 p.m.

    @Impartial7 -

    "This is what happens when you let religion infect a good program."

    Your comment demonstrates that you don't know anything about the founder of the Boy Scouts, Robert Baden-Powell or his views. Let me quote him:

    "We aim for the practice of Christianity in their everyday life and dealings, and not merely the profession of theology on Sundays…"

  • LSHS , 00
    Dec. 13, 2018 6:10 p.m.

    BSA, with what little money you have left, maybe you can buy a backbone!

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    Dec. 13, 2018 5:29 p.m.

    @Artemisia Tridentata. Dear Sagebrush: You are right on target. The problem with two different church youth programs has been a source of unnecessary confusion and expense for a long time and getting worse. Then when scouting seemed to lose its own direction it hastened the precipitation of the inevitable. The church's youth all over the world are going to be much better off with one united program. Learning and growing is much more important than getting awards and badges.

  • I.M. Fletch Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 5:07 p.m.

    @Impartial7 - Actions taken 40+ years ago is what did them in? That's what your sticking with?

    Is a bit ironic that that the Church was the first partner to sponsor Scouting in the United States and that the sponsorship may nearly outlast the organization.

  • AGPennypockets Provo, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 5:01 p.m.

    Don't be sad folks. The BSA obviously did it to themselves, in a big way. That soon to be defunct organization deserves what they get. Natural consequences. As recommended, I am 100% behind the BSA through 2019 (if they last that long). Then, after my being involved for 25+ years, the BSA (or Scouts of America) will be out of my life forever. The Church has been unbelievably generous to not pull out immediately, and to recommend Church members give the BSA a full year plus of our 100% support. I am literally laughing out loud that they may file bankruptcy. The BSA will soon be nothing more than a case study in how to "stand for nothing" / "become a spineless dinosaur" / "not listen to customers" and lose your organization. I am super, super excited to the new global program soon to be introduced by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. It will be absolutely phenomenal!

  • Maudine SLC, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 4:52 p.m.

    Some of you seem to have missed a very important part of the story - the bankruptcy is related to lawsuits for boys being molested by their male leaders going back to well before the recent changes.

    Blame it on moral turpitude all you want, but at least be honest about when the turpitude occurred.

  • slackoff green river, WY
    Dec. 13, 2018 4:30 p.m.

    How did religion bring about the demise of the BSA? Impartiallity has nothing in common with your posts.

  • Artemisia Tridentata Hawthorne, NV
    Dec. 13, 2018 4:21 p.m.

    The stated reason for the Church ending its chartering organization relationship with the Boy Scouts of America, is because they intend to develop another program that is more appropriate for a World-Wide Church. To attribute any other reason to their action is beyond the mark and out of line. Shame on you posters declaring anything else. You are wrong.

  • Meckofahess Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 4:17 p.m.

    Yup, political correctness and fear of taking a stand for moral rectitude did the Boy Scouts of America in. How sad!

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 4:05 p.m.

    This is what happens when you let religion infect a good program. 40+ years ago, scouting was about scouting. Learning how to be self sufficient in the outdoors. Setting goals and reaching them (merit badges). Community programs, jubilees and pinewood derbies. Then, politics and religion had to stick their noses in the tent. Drove away a lot of families that wanted their boys to learn the aforementioned skills, but without dogma. They ruined it themselves.

  • Go Big Blue!!! Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 4:04 p.m.

    A scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, reverent (and hungry). I have had that memorized for 45 years. It means a great deal to me. I have tried to make it a part of who I am.

    I feel bad that my grandsons will not know the scouting program that played an important part in my youth and in my sons' lives.

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 3:22 p.m.

    The BSA made several decisions to make themselves politically palatable, but have made themselves irrelevant. The LDS Church was the main contributor to keep the BSA financially sustainable, without that significant income the BSA is bound to fail.

    This is a lesson of, "be careful what you ask for... you may get it." The BSA's biggest draw was its requirements, for members to maintain religious values, it has reduced those requirements, and doesn't provide much benefit to strengthen the old Scout oath, or Law.

    It is now led by a committee with no courage, loyalty, nor thrift....

  • Rick for Truth Provo, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 3:15 p.m.

    Let’s see, the BSA took a political and immoral direction that has caused the Southern Baptists, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and now the Catholic Church to close down and cut affiliation with the BSA, and they wonder why. I guess their funding has colasped. Bye bye, this is what happens when you succumb to the 1% over the 99%.

  • SorryNotSorry Draper, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 3:06 p.m.

    It’s a sinking ship that needed complete overhaul at least a decade ago.

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Dec. 13, 2018 2:15 p.m.

    I am a proud Eagle Scout of the old traditional Boy Scout program.

    Sad!

    Morally clean and honesty has been redefined.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 1:51 p.m.

    The BSA sold its soul

    Which is rather antithetical to the reason why most parents want their child in scouting

    And the downfall was fast
    (but not really surprising)

  • conservative scientist Lindon, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 1:43 p.m.

    It seems the scouts are having problems with both money coming in and also money going out (from lawsuits, etc).

    On the money coming in side, it seems the boy scouts made some political decisions that alienated one of their biggest contributors of funds (the LDS church) and likely contributed to the Church dropping scouting. In addition, other church partners/sponsors dropped scouting several years ago (due mostly to increasingly "progressive" stances on various social issues) and started Trail Life USA.

    I'm waiting for all the liberal individuals and groups who are applauding the various recent progressive decisions of the scouting organization to put their money where their mouth is and increase donations to scouts. Or perhaps, they just wanted to criticize them for some conservative principles and try and get them to change (successfully) and then rejoice in their demise when the more conservative groups realized that scouting had abandoned them and reciprocated.

  • UtahBruin Eagle Mountain, UT
    Dec. 13, 2018 1:27 p.m.

    I guess all those new ideas didn't work out like they had planned. This program does not have much time left. Should have stayed true to who they were instead of trying to be PC. Regardless, I have never liked or supported this program over the last 20 years. It is not what it use to be. It used to be a very well respected organization. That has gone by the way side with the majority. Shame. Can't teach certain values and things and then try to change and go against what you teach.