@blue with envy SOS Rankings1984 BYU #82*2008 Utah
#80*2004 Utah #70**sports-reference.com--------Again with the bogus sports reference SOS where:"Non-major opponents are included as a single team in the ratings."LOLTry spinning this:1984 BYU wins: 8-4 Air
Force2008 Utah wins: #6, #7, #18, #25
I remember when Utah made fun of BYU's being picked to go to the Holiday
Bowl year after year. Now, here we are with Utah going to the
Holiday Bowl, and all of a sudden, it's a Big Deal! lol
@blue and gold(continued)2017 West Virginia 7-5. 5-5 against
P-5 teams. Summary: BYU had the worst record against P-5 teams in
the year we played them in a bowl. No other team had so many wins against teams
like UConn, E. Carolina, Wagner, San Jose State, Fresno State, and Utah State in
the year we played themNo other team had a game like the 31-0 game against
Michigan. 100 yards total offense. Crossing the mid field only on the last
drive of the game and that was to something like the 44 yard line! My conclusion: There is a strong case BYU was the weakest of the 5 opponents.
But this is based on facts not inflated opinion.As to the
"constant conference also ran" - If that means "never the PAC-12
Champion" - true for the 8 years. However, This year PAC-12 Southern
Division Champion. Co PAC-12 Southern Division Champion one other time. Other
signs Utah is one of the top PAC-12 teams - Most number of NFL draftees in 2016
(I think that was the year); the most number of All conference players in the
PAC-12 this year. The best out of conference record since 2011 (28-1 (97%)).
Best bowl record 5-0. Sorry for a factual response.
@blue and gold"Regardless of how you spin it, Utah, a constant
conference also ran, has played a pathically (sic) weak bowl SOS. THE best bowl
opponent Utah has played since joining the PAC 12 is BYU in the Las Vegas
Bowl,"Great response. So full of verifiable facts. Let's
look a little closer to your reply.1) can't refute the list of teams
Utah has played and defeated in their bowl history. Only to say "regardless
of how you spin it" Great counter with your opinion of a pathetically
(not pathically) weak bowl SOS. Full of verifiable facts.2) What an
incredibly high opinion of BYU - let's look at the facts:2011
opponent Georgia Tech 8-4 with 6-4 record against P-5 teams and a win over
Oklahoma.2014 Colorado State 10-2. 2-0 against P-5 teams with wins over
Boston College and Colorado.2015 Y 9-3. 1-3 against P-5 teams Wins
include Nebraska Boise, U Conn, E. Carolina, Wagner, San Jose St, Fresno St, and
Utah State. And don't forget 31-0 loss to Michigan - approx 100 yards
total offense and cross the mid-field on the last drive.2016 - U of
Indiana 6-6. 4-6 against P-5. losses to Ohio State, Nebraszka, Penn State, and
Michigan(to be continued)
Bunch of fights? LolGot a bunch of Rocky Balboas, do you?
😂How does this grab you?—8 straight &
counting, 13/16, 19/26 & the insurmountable overall record, 61-34-4.Go Utes!
It's hilarious to see the blue faithful disparage Utah's bowl games
while they prepare for the FAMOUS Idaho Potato Bowl. Seriously, the
#38 ranked bowl out of 39, and cougar fans try to downplay Big Brother's
bowl record. SMHBTW - which coaches on Utah's staff were ever
on LaVell's staff. 🤔
"To bust the BCS in 2004, Utah only beat . . . [blah, blah,blah] . .
."gold'n'green:You changed the
subject--winning big bowl games. How about giving us a rundown on BYU-P's
record in that regard?
Fights at practice, huh? I wonder how many fights at practice our Final 4
women's volleyball team has during their practices. I'm gonna guess
zero. Something about team unity, liking your teammates, fighting hard WITH your
teammates instead of fighting them is probably important to building a great
team. Sure, there's competition and testosterone at football
practices. But Sitake needs to get things under control and move those forces in
a positive direction if he wants to have a great team.
Who am I sir? Regardless of how you spin it, Utah, a constant
conference also ran, has played a pathically weak bowl SOS.THE best
bowl opponent Utah has played since joining the PAC 12 is BYU in the Las Vegas
Bowl, and Utah barely hung on to secure the win after the Cougars spotted the
Utes 5 TD’s in the 1st Q.
JohninSLC “In THIS century, Utah has played in two of the best
games, winning both.”To bust the BCS in 2004, Utah only beat
THREE teams with winning records, none better than 7-5.Utah’s
bowl opponent was a QUAD champion of the 7-team Big Least. Pitt finished #25 in
the final AP poll, lower than the #24 Air Force team that BYU beat on the road
in 1984.SOS Rankings1984 BYU #82*2008 Utah #80*2004 Utah #70**sports-reference.com
blue n gold: "You’re forgetting that many of Utah’s coaches are
from the BYU/LaVell Edwards coaching tree."Lester L Wester:“They sure didn't learn bowl-winning ways there; 7-14-1 for
LaVell against pedestrian opponents.”How many times Utah has
beaten a bowl opponent ranked higher than #20 in both final major polls?The answer is ONCE!Alabama is the ONLY bowl opponent Utah
has ever beaten that was ranked higher than #20 in both final major polls.
blue n gold: "You’re forgetting that many of Utah’s coaches are
from the BYU/LaVell Edwards coaching tree."They sure didn't
learn bowl-winning ways there; 7-14-1 for LaVell against pedestrian opponents.
"If Utah could get into better bowl games, their record wouldn't be
quite as nice."bemoresmart:Jealous coog fans most
certainly know that getting into a top tier bowl game isn’t easy. In THIS
century, Utah has played in two of the best games, winning both.
And here I thought Coach Sitake would be a little depressed with USU hiring
Coach Anderson. He had a chance to move up, but he still retains his place as no
better than the 4th best HC in the state.
BYU got the bowl they qualified for. There should be gratitude and solid
preparation. Western Michigan is no Bo Diddley Tech. They are a good opponent
who shows up for games. Th Cougars will need to play their A game. To expect a
blowout and bemoan that this team should be in a "better" bowl is
@bemorefare"If Utah could get into better bowl games, their
record wouldn't be quite as nice."Our history of bowl
losses are to Washington State, Wisconsin, USC, and Boise State. Our wins
include: West Virginia (twiice), U of Arizona, USC, Souther Miss, Pitts,
Indiana, Georgia Tech, Alabama, and California. In addition there were a couple
wins over non-power 5 schools. Consider also that all bowl teams had
non-losing records those years!Conclusion: you are correct.
"IF" Utah had played Alabama every year their record "wouldn't
be quite as nice". However, it would include at least one win! And when
you say it wouldn't be "quite as nice" you are saying it
wouldn't be the best of all teams that have played at least 15 bowl games.
Well, actually, that's not quite true as I believe Utah could lose one more
bowl game and still have the best winning record of all teams having played at
least 15 bowl games.
" There’s fights and stuff going on in practice. We have to condition
them and get them ready ..."Sounds like the BYU coaches are
preparing for the famous Pot. Bowl to be round two of the Beach Ball Bowl of a
couple year back.
If Utah could get into better bowl games, their record wouldn't be quite as
You would think that the DN sportswriters could give us a bit more injury
information -- Squally Canada?, Riggs Powell at LB?, what has been the story
with Butch Pau'u all year?, a bit more in the way of details regarding
Isaiah Kaufusi and Lopini Katoa? Rather than just report what Sitake tells them
(I can listen to his press conference and get that) they should have cultivated
enough inside sources to give expanded information. Even if we were
missing half our starters on O and D we still could handle Western Michigan
(especially with their starting QB out due to injury). If our D shuts down
their running game, which it should, it is going to be a very long frustrating
game for the Broncos from Kalamazoo. The current line of 12-13 is probably too
generous to Western Michigan. This has the makings of a big-time blow-out (and,
unfortunately, not a very interesting game). A match-up with North Texas, Wake
Forest, Memphis or TCU as some projected would have been so much better.
red.diehard - Central, UTDec. 11, 2018 7:10 p.m.“Only a couple
of coaches to go and all Utah collegiate football coaches will be from the Utah
Coaching Tree.”You’re forgetting that many of
Utah’s coaches are from the BYU/LaVell Edwards coaching tree.
Only a couple of coaches to go and all Utah collegiate football coaches will be
from the Utah Coaching Tree.Best wishes Coach Anderson.