'I'm in': Retiring state Sen. Jim Dabakis joins 2019 race for Salt Lake City mayor

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  • Joe Hilll Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2018 1:03 p.m.

    @2bits
    so republicans did run and were on the primary ballot but did not win enough votes to make the general election? isn't that how the process generally works regardless of party affiliation? How exactly is that unfair to republicans? Should they they get a place on the final ballot ahead of someone that got more votes?

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 12, 2018 12:41 p.m.

    @Joe Hilll
    RE: "@2 bits. Political diversity is always a good things and we should encourage people across all political persuasions to run for mayor. We cannot however force someone to run as a republican in salt llake or anywhere else.
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    Joe,
    The Race wasn't between 2 Ds because they ran unopposed. Check your elections. There were Rs who wanted to be Mayor and ran, but they weren't allowed on the final ballot because 2 Ds got more primary votes.

    So it's not an issue of no Rs running.

    It's pretty easy to insure you will have a Democrat Mayor if your only choices are 2 Democrats.

    If your choices are Jackie Biskupski (D) or Ralph Becker (D)... your going to have a D mayor no matter what. And it's not because no Rs ran. There was just no R on the final ballot.

    ===

    I didn't say it's Democrats fault. But most places require a candidate from each party on the ballot (for diversity and to not disenfranchise any party's voters). SLC could try that.

    We require a candidate nominated by each party to be on the general election ballot in State and Federal Elections.. why not in SLC?

    There's always an R and a D on the ballot in Sandy, why not in SLC?

  • Joe Hilll Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2018 10:13 a.m.

    @2 bits
    Political diversity is always a good things and we should encourage people across all political persuasions to run for mayor (and all levels of government). We cannot however force someone to run as a republican in salt llake or anywhere else. Unfortunately that leaves those that want to vote for a republican morning floral Salt Lake City mayor to write in their vote for someone that apparently has no interest in running which is sad but not democrates fault.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 12, 2018 9:40 a.m.

    I wonder... will there be one Republican on the ballot for SLC Mayor this time, for the Rs living in SLC to vote for?

    Last two elections there hasn't been an R on the general election ballot. Just two Ds. How does that not disenfranchise the people living in SLC who would like to vote for an R?

    Kinda insures a D will always be Mayor of SLC, doesn't it? Rs don't even have a chance. They aren't even allowed to be on the ballot.

    That's not the America way. Not very diverse either. If you are for diversity, and for all people to have someone they want to vote for on the ballot... shouldn't you have candidates from both parties on the ballot, not just 2 candidates from the same party? Where you can vote for A or B but you get the same thing no matter who you vote for?

    Should we do that with State-wide elections?

    Should we put two Rs on the general election ballot if they are the top-2, and no Democrat on the ballot? That would leave Ds with nobody they want to vote for on the ballot (like voters living in SLC).

    Doesn't seem very diverse to only have 2 Ds on your ballot SLC.

    No wonder a D always wins the SLC Mayor race. No Rs are on the ballot, just your choice of Ds.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Dec. 12, 2018 9:18 a.m.

    @ute alum
    We agree on the ne thing using arguments of “well if we moved the boundary” makes no sense.

    @2bits
    Again I never claimed that once elected that the elected official does not represent everyone in their city. I am not the one using terms like “the extreme left” or “your tribe.”

  • ConservativeCommonTater Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2018 9:00 a.m.

    drich - Green River, Utah

    "He should stay retired from all politics. It would good for Utah."

    The best thing about Dabakis running for mayor? You have no say in it at all.

    RiDal - Sandy

    "So, the Democratic race will be to see who can be the most extreme Left ?!"

    Ain't it great, instead of having the most religious right winger in the state running for office. BTW, you don't get a say either.

    ute alumni - Salt Lake City, UT

    "Tolstoy"
    "Other countries, really? That makes zero sense. City boundary lines are moved. When you have no argument you make no sense."

    Well, Republicans have been forced by courts to redraw boundaries (gerrymandering) because they were unfair. Even Mia Love's district was gerrymandered by Republicans and she still lost.

    Based on Dabakis' willingness to take on the tribal chiefs, he will be good for SLC, wish I could vote for him.

  • Lia Sandy, UT
    Dec. 12, 2018 8:59 a.m.

    Republicans serve themselves.
    Democrats serve the people.
    GO JIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • ute alumni Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 12, 2018 8:07 a.m.

    Tolstoy
    Other countries, really? That makes zero sense. City boundary lines are moved. When you have no argument you make no sense.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 12, 2018 8:05 a.m.

    @ute alumni - Salt Lake City, UT
    RE: "Now I’ll get on my scooter and ride into the sunset"...
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    They have scooters in Sandy too you know. The same Bird scooter program you have in SLC.

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    @Tolstoy
    I didn't say he couldn't vote for who he wants if he moves to SLC. I said whoever is elected represents him just as much as they represent anybody else once in office. They represent all the residents of SLC. Not just members of their tribe who live in SLC. That's the point.

    You may run as a Democrat or Republican. But when you are elected your job becomes serving all the residents, not just your tribe.

    Same goes for Sandy.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    Dec. 12, 2018 7:48 a.m.

    Another Mitt Romney. Oh please let me be something?

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Dec. 12, 2018 6:31 a.m.

    @ute alum
    if we move Utah borders we can change the vote of state offices from republican to democrat . if we move the national boundaries to include other countries then we could also change the vote . the point of having boundaries is that those boundaries allow people within them to have some say over their government despite the fact it may not represent the will of those outside those boundaries. Just to be clear no one asked you to leave Salt Lake by all means stay and vote your will and I will do the same.

  • Flat foot , 00
    Dec. 12, 2018 5:48 a.m.

    Time to hang it up, Jim - you've had your turns at bat -retire, please!

  • ute alumni Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2018 9:50 p.m.

    Tolstoy
    Move the boundary 10 blocks south for SLC and dems won’t win, ever. Why? Because currently SLC does not match the values of Sandy or almost anywhere else in Utah. Oh, and I guess you’ll allow me to comment as I do live in SLC. Now I’ll get on my scooter and ride into the sunset.

  • FanOfTheSith Vernal, UT
    Dec. 11, 2018 8:56 p.m.

    Jim, it's time for you to pursue a syndicated radio talk show, to clash the opinions of Hannity, Rush and Beck. LOL!

  • Utahwoody Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 11, 2018 8:02 p.m.

    Dabakis is a Utah treasure. He holds the feet to the fire of the rich and powerful and shines light on corruption. He'll be a great mayor.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Dec. 11, 2018 4:41 p.m.

    @2bits
    If you go back and read the two post you will see that it is RDek that paints salt lake and Democrats as being unlike Sandy or any other community in the Valley. RDale is more then welcome to move to Salt Lake and vote as he wishes, The people of Salt Lake will vote their will for Salt Lake just as you will for cottonwood heights. I agree we all have far more in come then we do differences which is why I did not claim Republicans I n sandy try to appeal to some far right agenda.

  • JoshuaTree North Salt Lake, UT
    Dec. 11, 2018 4:11 p.m.

    Good news for SLC.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 11, 2018 3:48 p.m.

    @Tolstoy
    If he wins, he will be representing all the people in SLC. not just you, or people like you. But all the people.

    The needs of people in Sandy is not all that different from the needs of people in SLC. Police, Fire, roads, libraries, arts, schools, etc. Quit pretending we're different, or we're at each other's throats. We're not. SLC is just a small part of a larger community.

    RiDal may move to SLC some day, you never know. Then he would represent him just as much as he represents you. That's his job.

  • JimDabakis slc, UT
    Dec. 11, 2018 3:30 p.m.

    Thanks, Katie McKellar. Nice, fair article.

  • TMR Pasadena, CA
    Dec. 11, 2018 3:30 p.m.

    He would be a great mayor.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Dec. 11, 2018 2:34 p.m.

    @RDal
    The Democrats will run to represent the views of those of us in salt lake not sandy. Whether those outside Salt Lake City consider it extreme left is of no real concern to us.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 11, 2018 2:29 p.m.

    It will be entertaining, as Dabakis has always been good a that.
    Beyond the entertainment we will be treated to promises of "free everything" and any criticism will be brushed aside as being "opposed to equality".

    Dabakis certainly has a lot more skill at motivating people than the incumbent, and while his policies and goals are likely very similar he will be much more successful in implementing them. That would be good for him, even if devastating in the long term for SLC.

    Salt Lake City is becoming more of a typical failed urban area run by liberal democrats every election, and they keep doing the same thing expecting different results.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    Dec. 11, 2018 1:09 p.m.

    So, the Democratic race will be to see who can be the most extreme Left ?!

  • Liberal On Planet Zion SLC, UT
    Dec. 11, 2018 12:38 p.m.

    The soon to be elected mayor of Salt Lake City. Commence the low information, anti-equality rhetoric, particularly from individuals outside Salt Lake City metro.

  • drich Green River, Utah
    Dec. 11, 2018 11:30 a.m.

    He should stay retired from all politics. It would good for Utah.