Holiday road: Utah's bowl bid to San Diego involved some legwork

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  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Dec. 11, 2018 10:38 p.m.

    motorbike - Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 12:21 p.m.

    brian of ohio

    "Anyone else getting concerned we haven't heard a verbal from J Daniels yet?"
    ------------
    He's almost assuredly going to commit to ASU on the early signing day. That ship has very likely sailed barring some great last minute change of mind.

    VegasUte - Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 10, 2018 12:48 p.m.

    @brian of ohio :

    "As an unrelated side note: Anyone else getting concerned we haven't heard a verbal from J Daniels yet?"

    Daniels is going to announce his commitment on December 13. The 4 schools he named are Utah, ASU, Cal and UCLA. Conventional wisdom now says that with the emergence of Shelley as a viable PAC QB, Daniels will commit to ASU where he can get on the field faster.

    ————

    Correct, JD’s being CB’d to late-comer ASU.....IMO, it wouldn’t be a football decision, were he to choose ASU, which discounts the JS-angle.....Stay tuned.

    Go Utes!

    p.s. He’ll need a serious P5 training/nutrition regimen, regardless.....Too frail @ this point.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Dec. 11, 2018 10:10 p.m.

    brian of ohio - Kent, OH
    Dec. 10, 2018 9:12 a.m.

    AZUte1 - Maybe embarrassment is too strong, but I don't see Pitt as a strong team, nor are they name brand. Stanford as a traditional flag bearer for the conference needs to win that game for respect.

    ————

    Historically, PITT absolutely is a “brand name”.....Regarding their prowess this year, they weren’t perfect, but right off the top of my head, I know they beat a CFP final ranked Syracuse, among others, & took undefeated ND down to the wire in South Bend.....They’re unequivocally a respectable opponent.

    Stanford needs to win this game, but not for the reason you outlined, & I believe they will, because they’re the better team, but not by much.

    Go PAC-12!

    Go Utes!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 11, 2018 9:24 a.m.

    Bluto:

    A team that needed UMass and NM St on their schedule in order to barely eke out a 6-win season, has to cross their fingers and hope for a spot.....in the Potato Bowl?

    #IndyIrrelevance

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Dec. 11, 2018 9:02 a.m.

    A team that played in the Pac-12 Championship game has to beg for a spot in the Holiday Bowl?

    #Eccles money.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 11, 2018 7:00 a.m.

    Lone*Star - Austin, TX
    Dec. 10, 2018 3:34 p.m.
    Castoro

    “The y has more opponents in the final top 20 because they lose to them”

    Nope!

    That’s a totally false Ute fan narrative that is only used for Utah bowl opponents.

    Both teams were ranked high enough that both the winner and loser were ranked in the final polls, usually in the Top 20.

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    Moral victorias!

    If BYU was capable of beating a team with a pulse...

    2001 #23 Louisville would not be ranked

    2012 Washington would not be ranked.

    2014 Memphis would not be ranked

    2015 #21 Utah not be ranked

    Just like 2009 #18 Oregon State that dropped out after taking a beating by BYU.

    2009 is your biggest bowl win since 1996.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 11, 2018 6:50 a.m.

    @Y the little brother

    Alabama is the ONLY bowl opponent ranked higher than 20th that the Utes have ever beaten.

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    How many top 10 teams has BYU beat? Both regular and post season?

    Take your time.

    I was wrong, Utay did lose to 1992 WSU. So Utah is 4-2 playing ranked bowl opponents.

    All 6 teams were top 30 teams in the nation afterwards, not making the top 25 does not make them pathetically weak bowl opponents like 2015 BYU who never sniffed a ranking.

  • WACPaddingOurSchedule pocatello, ID
    Dec. 10, 2018 11:41 p.m.

    Michigan Cougsfan68 - Ann Arbor, MI
    Dec. 10, 2018 6:15 a.m.
    NightOwlAmerica
    Congrats to the Utes for finally winning the South and their prize in the bowl that used to be reserved for the MWC/WAC champion! Interesting to see if the Utes can match or break any of the attendance figures put up by the Cougars for this bowl! Put up or shut up time MUSS!!!!!!!!
    _____

    A comparison to Utah State is more fitting. Lets see if BYU can beat their Potato Bowl TV rating. I bet they won't based on past bowl ratings.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 10, 2018 11:11 p.m.

    Snack PAC - Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 10, 2018 12:15 p.m.
    utemythology

    “In 25 years, Utay has played 6 ranked teams in bowls, 4-1 as of today. Utah has beat 4 ranked opponents, 3 final ranked.”

    Nice try, but in their entire history, Utah has only played FOUR teams that finished the season ranked in both major polls, and U lost to two of them.

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    Wrong! We have only lost to one team.

    Utah Ranked Opponents (Final Ranking)

    * 1994 #15/#13 Arizona (#20/#20) W
    * 2004 #19/#20 Pitt (#25/UR) W
    * 2005 #24/#24 Georgia Tech (UR/UR) W
    * 2008 #4/#4 Bama (#6/#6) W
    * 2010 #10/#10 Boise(#8/#8) L

    Your turn, who did you beat in ANY poll?

    Take your time.

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 5:49 p.m.

    Utah played the following teams who actually finished ranked in the Top 25 in both major:

    Wash St (1992, lost 28-31)
    Arizona (1994, won 16-13)
    Alabama (2008, won 31-17)
    Boise St (2010, lost 3-26)

    Regardless of how you spin it,

    Utah has only played four teams that were ranked in both final polls, and U only beat TWO of them.

    Alabama is the ONLY bowl opponent ranked higher than 20th that the Utes have ever beaten.

    Period!

  • Jackie Treehorn St George, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 5:10 p.m.

    Hey Lonestar, talk to Blue Coug, he/she's the one that said "top 50".

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    Dec. 10, 2018 4:49 p.m.

    Snack WAC:

    "Nice try, but in their entire history, Utah has only played FOUR teams that finished the season ranked in both major polls, and U lost to two of them."

    Utah played the following teams who'd finished ranked in the final AP poll:

    1. #15 Wash St (1992, lost 28-31)
    2. #20 Ariz (1994, won 16-13)
    3. #25 Pitt (2004, won 35-7)
    4. #6 Ala (2008, won 31-17)
    5. #9 Bois St (2010, lost 3-26)

    That's a 3-2 record vs. ranked teams. And who cares if they were ranked in "both" polls? Only ONE of those polls consists of voters who actually watch the games, and that's the AP -- the only one that matters once all the bowls have been played.

    The indy-WACers on the other hand had beaten only #20 SMU (1980, 46-45) and #17 Kan St (1996, 19-15), so don't act like your "heavy losses" were solely on account of playing more ranked teams. You STILL beat FEWER of them!

    Edge: Utah.

    And for the record, you ALSO beat fewer of the "unranked" ones, and lost to more of them as well. Utah had gone 14-2 against THAT field. You guys went 12-4.

    Edge: Utah again!

  • Utahute72 Tooele, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 4:44 p.m.

    So remind me again what that powerhouse Michigan team BYU beat for a MNT was ranked?

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    Dec. 10, 2018 3:34 p.m.

    Castoro

    “The y has more opponents in the final top 20 because they lose to them”

    Nope!

    That’s a totally false Ute fan narrative that is only used for Utah bowl opponents.

    Both teams were ranked high enough that both the winner and loser were ranked in the final polls, usually in the Top 20.

    Unlike Utah’s weak bowl opponents who weren’t even good enough to be ranked in the Top 25.

  • Castoro Holladay, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 2:57 p.m.

    blue n gold - Redmond, WA:

    Of the 11 Holiday Bowls BYU played in, almost all of their opponents were ranked in the final Top 20 in both polls.

    How many ranked in the final Top 20 in both major polls bowl opponents has Utah beaten?
    ____________
    You have some really fuzzy logic "byu" is better because they lost to better teams than the U beat".

    The y has more opponents in the final top 20 because they lose to them, thus their opponent stays ranked or maybe even moves up slightly. The U has less because they beat their teams, moving those teams down in the rankings, pushing some out of the top 20.

    Personally, I would rather my team win their bowl games, but if you are happy with your team helping improve the final rankings of their opponents...to each their own.

  • Jackie Treehorn St George, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 2:55 p.m.

    blue n gold: "So, THE best bowl opponent you’ve played since joining the PAC is BYU?"

    Yup. Hang a banner.

  • Lone*Star Austin, TX
    Dec. 10, 2018 2:43 p.m.

    Jackie Treehorn

    “So if your standard for good bowl opponents is "top 50", then Utah is (at least) 6-1 against them this century.”

    Utah fans don’t even “count” unranked BYU opponents (like Oklahoma and Oregon St) that finished from #26 to #30,

    in fact, you don’t even “count” #24 Air Force in 1984, because the polls only ”ranked” the Top 20,

    but, for “good” Utah bowl opponents, you’re willing to lower the standard to top 50?

    LOL 🤣 at the inconsistency.

  • blue n gold Redmond, WA
    Dec. 10, 2018 2:26 p.m.

    Jackie Treehorn - St George, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 1:14 p.m.
    Blue Coug, just browsing Sagarin:
    2017 #49 WVU
    2015 #39 BYU

    So, THE best bowl opponent you’ve played since joining the PAC is BYU?

  • blue n gold Redmond, WA
    Dec. 10, 2018 2:07 p.m.

    “Oh, and the 11 Holiday Bowls BYU went to? Yeah, BYU won 4 of them.”

    Of the 11 Holiday Bowls BYU played in, almost all of their opponents were ranked in the final Top 20 in both polls.

    How many ranked in the final Top 20 in both major polls bowl opponents has Utah beaten?

    *crickets*

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 1:21 p.m.

    Vegas Ute: "Conventional wisdom now says that with the emergence of Shelley as a viable PAC QB, Daniels will commit to ASU where he can get on the field faster."
    Less to do with Shelley. More to do with ASU graduating senior Manny Wilkins.
    You are right -- kids today want to play right now.

  • Jackie Treehorn St George, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 1:14 p.m.

    Blue Coug, just browsing Sagarin:
    2017 #49 WVU
    2015 #39 BYU (lol)
    2009 #46 California
    2008 #6 Alabama
    2005 #41 GT
    2001 #37 USC

    That's just one metric of "top 50", if you wanted to use other rating services or extrapolate those in the receiving votes mentions of the major polls a few others would be included. So if your standard for good bowl opponents is "top 50", then Utah is (at least) 6-1 against them this century.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    Dec. 10, 2018 12:48 p.m.

    @brian of ohio :

    "As an unrelated side note: Anyone else getting concerned we haven't heard a verbal from J Daniels yet?"

    Daniels is going to announce his commitment on December 13. The 4 schools he named are Utah, ASU, Cal and UCLA. Conventional wisdom now says that with the emergence of Shelley as a viable PAC QB, Daniels will commit to ASU where he can get on the field faster.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 12:37 p.m.

    "I'm getting really sick of the lack of respect we get in our own conference."

    FalseFlagFrank:

    You coogs don't have a conference.

  • motorbike Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 12:21 p.m.

    brian of ohio

    "Anyone else getting concerned we haven't heard a verbal from J Daniels yet?"
    ------------
    He's almost assuredly going to commit to ASU on the early signing day. That ship has very likely sailed barring some great last minute change of mind.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    Dec. 10, 2018 12:15 p.m.

    utemythology

    “In 25 years, Utay has played 6 ranked teams in bowls, 4-1 as of today. Utah has beat 4 ranked opponents, 3 final ranked.”

    Nice try, but in their entire history, Utah has only played FOUR teams that finished the season ranked in both major polls, and U lost to two of them.

  • Wild Ute Sandy, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 11:44 a.m.

    BYU can only dream about playing the top 25 teams Utah has played and beat. You may have have gone to the Holiday bowl but Utah will win the Holiday bowl. Have fun freezing in Idaho where ESPN assisted getting you sent to.

  • Lester L. Wester Henderson, NV
    Dec. 10, 2018 11:19 a.m.

    Blue Coug: "Remind us the last time Utah beat a top 50 team in a bowl?"

    Whenever it was, it was this century. How about your team; ever?

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 10, 2018 10:40 a.m.

    Michigan Cougsfan68 - Ann Arbor, MI
    Dec. 10, 2018 6:15 a.m.
    NightOwlAmerica
    Congrats to the Utes for finally winning the South and their prize in the bowl that used to be reserved for the MWC/WAC champion!

    ------

    Is that supposed to be trash talk?

    LSU is playing in the Fiest Bowl.

    The same Fiesta Bowl which was once aligned with the WAC.

    The Vegas Bowl will soon be P12 vs SEC, it might become a top bowl destination.

  • london_josh Lincoln, CA
    Dec. 10, 2018 10:36 a.m.

    A few BYU comments and the rest of the comments act like those little nags are meaningful - when they really aren't.

    I'll follow my team in blue playing for taters while I'm someplace warm and nice, BYU fans are happy to have a bowl game and we're happy that while the team was only 6-6, there was hope on 4 of the 6 losses which could have turned around. It's not much but it's a trajectory that we BYU fans didn't have last year.

    The fact that Harlan needed to work to get Utah into the Holiday bowl shouldn't be surprising for anybody - fact is that Utah isn't a huge brand because it's new in the PAC and Utah isn't a huge market.

    some people get too tied up pretending that this is a sport rather than a business.

    Utah won the games it needed to win this year and played well overall. At the same time when you look at the PAC South you'll see 6 teams, 4 of which are closer to SD than Utah and all of the others have larger populations and fan bases than Utah does.

    Utah can and does play a great brand of football - but when it comes to profitability, the PAC has some massive names that will always try and jump in front - and that's got nothing to do with how the Utes play football!

  • brian of ohio Kent, OH
    Dec. 10, 2018 9:12 a.m.

    AZUte1 - Maybe embarrassment is too strong, but I don't see Pitt as a strong team, nor are they name brand. Stanford as a traditional flag bearer for the conference needs to win that game for respect. If the Pac12 gets to 4-3 or 5-2, then last years bowl record quickly gets forgotten. If it is 3-4 or worse then that is bad news.

    As an unrelated side note: Anyone else getting concerned we haven't heard a verbal from J Daniels yet? I thought he was going to make a decision a few weeks ago. The fact that he hasn't concerns me he is getting more offers that he really is considering. My hope is that a potential 'Cajon 3' wants to announce together on early signing day. That would be cool.

  • ArizonaUte SLC, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 8:55 a.m.

    @CA. reader - Rocklin, CA
    Dec. 9, 2018 2:12 p.m.

    Bowls have changed. Like who they are affiliated with now, etc. It's just not the same. But being stuck in the past is definitely a BYU fan thing.

    BYU's last Holiday Bowl? 1993. 25 yrs ago. But enjoy the Idaho Bowl of Potatos, now that BYU is eligible for a bowl again.

    The Holiday bowl, way back then, wasn't affiliated with the PAC 10. Now it's affiliated with the PAC 12. Why? The bowl itself wanted to raise it's profile.

    Oh, and the 11 Holiday Bowls BYU went to? Yeah, BYU won 4 of them.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Dec. 10, 2018 8:50 a.m.

    “Stanford should handily beat Pitt (this would be the biggest embarrassment if Pac12 lost)”

    Why an embarrassment?

    And I believe ASU beats FS if EB has a big day.

    Can’t wait for our matchup against CFP final ranked #22 NW, who went 8-5 against the #9 ranked SOS as the B1G runner-up!

    Go Utes!

  • Tomahawk Red Miami Beach, FL
    Dec. 10, 2018 8:07 a.m.

    "Both the Alamo and Holiday bowls expressed a concern that traveling to Santa Clara, California, for the Pac-12 title game would prohibit fans from making another trip"

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    Sorry that's a cop out and I dont believe it for a second.

    Look at who the Alamo/Holiday/Redbox chose from the Pac 12 for the last 5 years and it's clear the Santa Clara factor is a very minor concern to these bowls.

    The fact is simple... these bowls that pay for the premium (Alamo/Holiday/SF) love the chance to exercise them.

    It's virtually a fact that the Holiday was (inexplicably) drooling over Oregon, and they had that "Santa Clara" argument cued and ready to roll when they were unexpectedly lobbied in Utah's behalf and made a last minute change of plans.

    It's ridiculous how Pac 12 bowls seem to give every team the benefit of the doubt except for Utah. Exhibits A and B are 2015 and the near-miss this year.

    Utah always seems to have to fight for a decent bowl (no matter how good their record)... whereas teams like USC, UCLA, Oregon, Wazzu, UW, both Arizonas and even Colorado seem to be an automatic lock for those bowls whenever its their turn.

  • BrianB Greencastle, IN
    Dec. 10, 2018 8:07 a.m.

    I'm grateful for the hard work put in to get the Utes in the Holiday Bowl, but this points to the $$$ nature of bowl games and conferences. If Utah always drew well, there wouldn't have been a question. They have to earn it more on the field than other teams in the PAC.

    As for BYU fans, this is the U's show. Show class and let the rivalry go until next season.

  • brian of ohio Kent, OH
    Dec. 10, 2018 8:01 a.m.

    Awesome article to hear about the efforts to get into the Holiday Bowl.

    Pac12 got embarassed last year, but there were a lot of bad matchups. This year, outside the Rose bowl, I feel like the Pac12 should be favored in most of the games.
    Utah should have the edge, especially if Huntley comes back as it will be D vs D and Utah's is just better.
    WSU has a favorable matchup vs ISU and an O capable of winning that game.
    Stanford should handily beat Pitt (this would be the biggest embarrassment if Pac12 lost)
    Oregon is capable of beating MSU but that could be a tossup
    ASU can beat Fresno, but without Harry, that one might be tossup as well.
    Depending how good Cal's D plays, they could also beat TCU who is on a down year.

    I'm expecting 4-3 Pac12: losses (Washington, ASU, and Cal) and with wins for (WSU, Utah, Stanford, and Oregon)

  • Michigan Cougsfan68 Ann Arbor, MI
    Dec. 10, 2018 6:15 a.m.

    NightOwlAmerica
    Congrats to the Utes for finally winning the South and their prize in the bowl that used to be reserved for the MWC/WAC champion! Interesting to see if the Utes can match or break any of the attendance figures put up by the Cougars for this bowl! Put up or shut up time MUSS!!!!!!!!

  • Pugman Tremonton, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 5:46 a.m.

    @nightowl
    No.....what's amusing is Utah fan's thinking their the flag bearers for the Pac 10.2

  • operaman86 Midvale, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 4:22 a.m.

    The Pac-12 should make a rule guaranteeing that the teams who play in the Conference Championship game are locked into either the Rose (if not a CFP Semifinal), Alamo, or Holiday Bowls. That's what they pretty much do right now anyway. Only one loser in Pac-12 Championship Game history has ever dropped past the Alamo or Holiday Bowls (UCLA 2011 Fight Hunger Bowl). And that year was an anomaly because UCLA didn't even really earn the South Division Championship that year. They got in by default because USC, who was the actual division champ that year (they went 10-2 (7-2)), was ineligible due to NCAA sanctions and therefore ineligible to play in post season games, including the CCG. I knew going into Selection Sunday that Utah was a lock for the Holiday Bowl and nobody believed me. And look who was right: THIS GUY. Go Utes!

  • yankees27 Heber, Utah
    Dec. 10, 2018 12:11 a.m.

    Wow bluecoug, uteology just wrecked you with facts, that can't feel good.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    Dec. 9, 2018 9:39 p.m.

    Its amusing to read BYU fans trash Utah about bowls.
    We are going to San Diego.
    The Cougars get to fight over a trophy full of tater tots.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Dec. 9, 2018 8:02 p.m.

    @BlueCoug

    "Remind us the last time Utah beat a top 50 team in a bowl?"

    Not sure, but I'm certain it's more recent than the last time BYU-P beat a top 50 team period.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 9, 2018 7:23 p.m.

    BlueCoug - Provo, UT
    Dec. 9, 2018 3:17 p.m.
    BSR

    Remind us the last time Utah beat a top 50 team in a bowl?

    The reason the Utes have such a sterling bowl record is the Utes always play pathetically weak bowl opponents.

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    In 25 years, Utay has played 6 ranked teams in bowls, 4-1 as of today. Utah has beat 4 ranked opponents, 3 final ranked.

    BYU has 2 wins, 1 final ranked team over same period.

    * Utah beat then ranked #4 Bama, #15 Arizona, #18 Pitt, and #24 Georgia Tech.

    Final AP rankings: #6 Bama, #15 Arizona, and #25 Pitt.

    * Utah lost to then ranked #10 Boise. Final rank #8.

    * Now we play #22 Northwestern.

    The difference, Utah doesn't lose to pathetically weak bowl opponents like BYU.

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2018 4:06 p.m.

    majmajor "build the relationships that other AD's (Hill, Holmoe) haven't shown."
    Hill got the Utes into the PAC12, so that Harlan go later negotiate bowl position.
    Hill isn't the AD bad at building relationships...

  • uterebel50 Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2018 3:58 p.m.

    So the Alamo, Holiday and Redbox bowls pay a premium to void team records and take whichever team they please. To whom do they pay this premium? Larry Scott is losing credibility with each sleazy revelation that comes out.

  • BlueCoug Provo, UT
    Dec. 9, 2018 3:17 p.m.

    BSR

    Remind us the last time Utah beat a top 50 team in a bowl?

    The reason the Utes have such a sterling bowl record is the Utes always play pathetically weak bowl opponents.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    Dec. 9, 2018 2:43 p.m.

    I wonder if the fact that Utah actually wins their bowl games factored in? The rest of the conference is a national postseason embarrassment, and I'm tired of Utah dragging the whole PAC12 along behind them.

  • Frank Walters Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2018 2:26 p.m.

    I'm getting really sick of the lack of respect we get in our own conference. Maybe it's time to actually get fans to the game so that we're respected.

  • CA. reader Rocklin, CA
    Dec. 9, 2018 2:12 p.m.

    Just a quick reminder: what was the Holiday Bowl also know as for its first several years? That's right, the BYU Bowl! You guys are still following a trend started by the Cougars.

  • majmajor Layton, UT
    Dec. 9, 2018 1:55 p.m.

    This article confirms what I suspected... the Utes have greatly upgraded their athletic department with the new AD. This one has the tools to build the relationships that other AD's (Hill, Holmoe..) haven't shown.

    Wish the Utes well in the Holiday Bowl.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    Dec. 9, 2018 1:06 p.m.

    Rose, Alamo, Holiday bowls should be earned on the field not some backroom politics.

    Larry Scott has again failed, the top 3 in teams from P12 should face top teams from Big 12 and B10.

    Allowing bowls to choose is ridiculous.

  • UoU 1991 Park City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2018 12:39 p.m.

    So the PAC 12 South champ Utes had to pull every string to secure the #3 PAC 12 bowl?

  • 96 U Flower Mound, TX
    Dec. 9, 2018 12:39 p.m.

    Well done individual emailing Ute fans. Glad AD did his priority job as well. Sun Bowl would've been a major disappointment for team being a play or two out of the Rose Bowl.

  • U got to love em Ogden, UT
    Dec. 9, 2018 11:39 a.m.

    It will be nice to see if the other conference teams can pull their own weight this year.
    Utah deserves more respect from the other PAC12 teams for being the standard bearer of the post season games last year for the league, being the only one who won their bowl game.
    Kyle ?
    12_1.........as of Jan. 1, 2019

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 9, 2018 11:36 a.m.

    "a Pac-12 deal that allows the Alamo, Holiday and Redbox bowls to start at the top and take any team within one loss of another in conference play. They paid a premium for the right."
    I wonder if the other P5 conferences have a similar arrangement, or if they simply choose by conference standings.

    The improved Las Vegas Bowl in 2020 will shake up the order of bowls. Drop that "premium for the right" bit, quit paying a gajillion dollars for office space in downtown San Francisco, move the league office to the suburbs, and give teams the bowl they earned.

  • U got to love em Ogden, UT
    Dec. 9, 2018 11:04 a.m.

    Great job on this site for the best of locations !
    U got to love 'em !
    Congratulations to the coaches and players for the excitement and enthusiasm shown all year.
    I couldn't be more proud of our Utes.
    Utah......23
    NW..........16