'Run, Hide, Fight': A Utah Jewish synagogue trains to face an active shooter after the deadliest assault on Jews in U.S. history

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  • John Pack Lambert of Michigan Ypsilanti, MI
    Dec. 13, 2018 8:19 p.m.

    Such trainings are not worth doing and needlessly add to aniety about non-threats.

  • banliberals Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 10, 2018 11:45 a.m.


    See those Jews are smart, too!

    As opposed to those who engaged gun free zones and end up victims!

    Now this is fighting back!

  • oldbasketball Draper, UT
    Dec. 5, 2018 5:13 p.m.

    There is nothing the matter with being prepared. Isn't that the boy scouts motto. I will say that the chance of that happening in Utah is just a few hundredths of a percentage above zero. I have lived here most of my life and I am confident in saying that the people of Utah are about as tolerant of other people of different beliefs and cultures as you can be.

  • Husker2 Aurora, MN
    Dec. 5, 2018 2:27 p.m.

    A church or synagogue with a lot of people blasting away could end bad for the bad guy...and other people as well. It might work in the movies but could be very messy in a real life situation.

    "Run, hide, fight" is a good response when combined with trained security, and security measures such as metal detectors.

    Dec. 5, 2018 11:50 a.m.

    When the shooting in Pittsburgh happened there were four armed, trained policemen there who were killed.

  • Captain Green Heber City, UT
    Dec. 5, 2018 11:43 a.m.

    "Run, Hide, Fight"... is absurd! They're just telling the wackos out there that they won't face any resistance when they come to kill. It should rather be, "Shoot the shooter and then call the Police." End of incident. It's actually pretty simple.

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Dec. 5, 2018 9:30 a.m.

    The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy/gal with a gun.
    "Run, hide, fight" is better than doing nothing.

    But, the first rule of a gunfight is to bring a gun. Members of the congregation should consider arming themselves, if they feel confident in doing so, and if they rather only have the "run, hide, fight" option, that is their choice.

    Having a concealed weapons permit allows members to legally carry a self defense weapon in church (except for LDS churches and the Wasatch Presbyterian Church which have taken the option to prohibit firearms as allowed by Utah law).

    An armed member of the congregation is certainly less of a deterrent to evil killers than a uniformed cop, but far more effective than only having the option to "run, hide, fight."

    Fight crime- shoot back. But, pray that you never have to.

  • caleby Bountiful, UT
    Dec. 5, 2018 8:50 a.m.

    Run and hide allows the shooter to keep reloading. How about Fight, Fight, Fight?

  • Christmas Carole Hurricane, UT
    Dec. 5, 2018 6:22 a.m.

    Extremely wise. The times we are living in dictate that we as citizen's take measures to protect ourselves rather than becoming victims to deranged and evil people. I am not aware if the public schools have active programs for defense as opposed to victimization, but I strongly support this type of training for all citizens, most especially those most vulnerable.

  • Tumbleweed Centerville, UT
    Dec. 5, 2018 12:07 a.m.

    I guess adding "Shoot Back" to the training would be just too politically incorrect.

  • Harrison Bergeron Salt Lake City, UT
    Dec. 4, 2018 11:34 p.m.

    "'Run, Hide, Fight': A Utah Jewish synagogue trains…"

    I think it should be: Aim, Squeeze, Fire.

    Killers love people to run from them. They hate it when they shoot back.