Many people with chronic illnesses voted yes for a good reason. I know several
whose doctors had discussed positive prospects with them. A HUGE segment of the
population has been cut out of the opportunity by the Legislature. Why? Are they
doctors? Do they know these patients? When the Legislature alters something so
significantly as to deny opportunity to a significant segment of the population
who needs the support, then I would say plenty of push-back is in order from the
Can't go giving people what a majority of them voted for! After all,
We Know Better.
This is the status quo in soft subtle tones that lull. It pushes you in the
direction they want...Gliding like delicate silk off the back of a
chair when hung carelessly over the back. A sense of peace and togetherness;
that it's okay the "will" of our elected officials is to modify a
bill so heavily in favor of one side it will cause people to suffer out of
ignorance. Cannabis has always been medicine. 32 states, 33 with us,
2 countries, and The District of Columbia have legalized in some way. We
don't need to reinvent the wheel. Cannabis is already dosed. It has been
for some time. This will cause medical cannabis patients to suffer.
Grow space is limited. There will be shortages and delays. We all
live here together.
"In fact, they were moving slowly in this direction in recent years"I guess you could say the Legislature was "moving Slowly"
towards legalization of Medical Cannabis. At the pace they were proceeding my
guess it would have been a 100 years before we saw any progress.
Dont be mislead by their crafty words and justifications These
"news" peices are nothing more than persuasive letters written with the
specific intent to down play what they have done.They're
creating the illusion that what they are doing here is okay. Do not
Those who wish to control others through legislation have won their reward. As
lovers of liberty, let us not meet their negative energy
Re: "I would be more on your side Jay if Utah had a multi-party, or at least
two party, system."Huh? Utah HAS a multi-party system. The fact that you and I are members of a party that has consciously,
foolishly, and adamantly refused for 30+ years to offer the people of Utah a
consistent slate of candidates and principles we can vote for is not the fault
of Utah.It's our fault.The fact that Weed, Inc.
cobbled together a coalition of the venal, the foolish, and the mindless to pass
this vile initiative does not a pro-weed movement make, whatever venal
proponents may be trying to sell.
Utah Happyman: "The Church is still true in Canada..."Well, the Church isn't growing very fast here in Canada, and the
jury's still out on whether legalizing weed was a good decision. Our
'buck a beer' Primier of Onrtario has no problem with it, though.
All this fuss over a non additive plant that is readily available and which is
consumed by millions each day for medical and recreational use Including here in
Utah.Soon Wendover NV. will have a dispensary that will supply
Northern Utah, Eastern Utah is supplied by western Colorado and southern Utah
from Mesquite NV .So it doesn't matter what Utah does.
To "Impartial7" what are you talking about, did you even red the bill?
If you had you would have seen that MS is listed as one of the conditions to get
a MMJ card.If you don't have one of the specific diseases
listed, there is the Compassionate Use Board that is filled with DOCTORS with
knowledge of MMJ and its uses and benefits. If you have a problem that is not
listed yet could be helped with MMJ the board can grant you a card.To "SMcloud" I hate to tell you this, but with the compromise bill
PTSD is listed as eligible for MMJ.What I still can't
understand from so many of the liberals here is why they are complaining about
the compromise bill. Prior to election day they said Prop 2 was to get
medication to those that can benefit from it. The compromise bill gets
medication to those that can benefit from it. So, since the compromise bill
meets the intent of Prop 2, what is all of the fuss over?
Truth is that there are MANY folks (including me) that want fully legal
‘recreational’ cannabis. Yep, ‘tis true. But you know what?
We’ll keep getting it from the good ‘ol black market, which
I’ve been doing for over 30 years now. It’s a plant folks. Just
I completely and utterly disagree with the author of this opinion. I feel as
though this prepared discourse would be better suited for a Sunday testimonial
by the members of the: "perceived dominant religion". Americans/Utahns
deserve to be counted and represented. This is not a dictatorship nor can a
religious or conservative entity control the will of the people. Utah voted, now
do your job governor/ legislators.
I think most freedom loving, rational people understand that it is completely
irrational to legalize the recreational use of alcohol and tobacco and not
marijuana. Maintain strong laws against underage use and driving while impaired.
Strengthen them if you want. But to make it illegal for an adult to smoke a
joint in the privacy of their home, while being able to use alcohol and tobacco
legally, is nothing short of fear, lack of knowledge, and control.
I say we hit them up with another ballot proposition by the people, from the
people, and for the people in every election.The next one should
just allow anyone with a medical card to grow their own period - cut the state
out of the tax money altogether.
@Shane333 - Orem, UT"I suspect that a lot of Utah residents
support the idea of providing access to useful medication but simultaneously
desire to avoid enabling substance abuse. "Most studies show
that alcohol is much worse for one's health than cannabis. However, in
Utah I can brew my own beer, and even distill my own spirits for personal
consumption.I and many other freedom loving individuals living in
this state do not want have the government acting as our parental guardian.
That is not how free people should have to live.
Excellent article, Jay.Even though I have been a great fan of some
Initiatives, they are a poor way to make law.michaelitos had it
right, "Excellently worded and well thought out, Jay. I
appreciate my duly elected representative doing his job... even if it take some
prodding from an initiative."The initiative statute should be
changed to make all such measures, open to legislative modification, before
Everyone can grow there own under law until there is retail dispensaries under
the Utah Constitution and the mandate of the people.
The height of arrogance - thats the best way to describe this latest from Utahs
legislative body.Key provisions of the peoples ballot initiative
were totally left out.Sometimes I get embarassed that I affilliate
with the Republican party. This is one of those times. Lately
there have been quite a few where they embarrass me.I think Prop 2
supporters have a good case in court.
As if legislators read the bills they vote on...There were several
reasonable cleaned up versions proposed by Democrats in the last few days, and
all of them were immediately rejected by the GOP.@Impartial7" Yes, it will end up in court, and the people will eventually win"No they won't. Because this isn't a constitutional amendment.
It can be amended or repealed by other legislation and there's certainly no
constitutional rights being violated here.
I'm fine with a GOP controlled legislature and I'm certain that a
Democrat would be comfortable with a democrat controlled legislature.
"The elusive will of the people."That record has been played
over for years and years and the song remains the same.
Excellently worded and well thought out, Jay. I appreciate my duly elected
representative doing his job... even if it take some prodding from an
As the mouth piece for the powerful special interest he hit all the talking
points. We the people were just ill informed or just out to stick it to the man
and therefore cannot be trusted to know what we want. We clearly need a bunch
of cookie cutter home builders and pay day loan business owners to tell use what
best for us.
Was this written by George Orwell?
I'm getting really tired of being patronised in this way. The legislators
have dragged their heels on this for years, and now the people have expressed
their will. The time for consideration and deliberation is passed, and now
it's time for action. Even if that action runs counter to what the church
The legislature overstepped here.I hope all of those responsible for
the changes get voted out.
I wish that there was a separation between church and state.If you
don't want to take medical marijuana because you think it's against
your religion, FINE. But the second people want to push their religious
values on others, I have a problem with that.There are studies
showing PTSD can be treated with Marijuana. Think of all the vets that have been
lost to alcohol abuse and opiates. There is a better way but Utah is choosing
old fashioned ideas over science.
I suspect that a lot of Utah residents support the idea of providing access to
useful medication but simultaneously desire to avoid enabling substance abuse.
Much of the difficulty around this issue stems from the challenge of
sorting facts from opinions. How does the average person know which
'facts' are actually clinically-proven medical benefits of marijuana?
Does the entire 'plant' or 'leaf' need to be made available,
or can the medically beneficial parts be extracted and provided in isolated form
like most other medications?If there were more clear answers to the
above questions, I imagine that the 'will of the people' would become
notably more clear on the matter.
People unite call the Governor and the legislature out. They are the predominant
faiths lobbiests. The Church is still true in Canada...
ConradGurch -said: "This all stems back to Cotton vs. Cannabis and MONEY. We
all know that cotton won out and the rest is history."Add in the
competition for Paper (Hearst) and synthetic rope (DuPont) Oil/Fuel (Standard
oil) Henry Ford’s first Model T was made with a hemp acrylic skin, hemp
upholstery and ran on hemp ethanol.It always has been about unfair
market and manipulation of Americans into believing Cannabis is dangerous. They
never used any scientific evidence when the made it illegal, just propaganda and
refer madness, which is apparently what our representatives used for
research.It's sad that Utah's willfully ignorant
representatives refuse to do the research and instead prefer religious advice
over scientific evidence.
This all stems back to Cotton vs. Cannabis and MONEY. We all know that cotton
won out and the rest is history.What research was done back in the
day to get Cannabis banned?Nothing has changed, its all about the
The Legislature, and the church, really overstepped this time. Yes, it will end
up in court, and the people will eventually win, as patients that need MMJ (like
people with MS) will be denied and suffer longer. And, Utah's one party
state will reelect the same people that silenced our voice. Yes, the should be
voted out. But, no, they won't.
I would be more on your side Jay if Utah had a multi-party, or at least two
party, system. Utah has a one party system in most counties, like mine Davis,
where elections are in essence one-party sustaining votes. Will this ever
change? Doesn't look like it.