Judge dismisses GOP incumbent's lawsuit against S.L. County clerk
Good. The last thing we need is candidates filing lawsuits to bog down
the election process.
If Love violated the campaign finance laws why did the Federal Elections
Commission not pursue the alleged violations. It sounds like if you tell a lie
often enough a lot of Utahans will believe it.
Politics should leave a bad taste in people's mouths, not elections and
Either way, more war.
I have to agree with No Names Accepted. This election has been a disaster. I support Mia Love's basic views. I think she took on a big job
when she went from a modest town mayor to a national office, and I doubt if her
background was adequate. However, she was willing to serve, and hopefully she is
still learning. I wish DN had a more up to date report on the count.
@Y Ask Y: "Who is managing the election process? What is their party
affiliation? ... Something stinks."In SLCo, it is the Democrat
County Clerk.In UtCo, it is the GOP County Clerk.Are we
going to blame both counties, both parties? Or will someone try to blame only
the other guy?Fact is, mail in voting is ripe for fraud. It is much
easier to sell votes when the buyer can confirm how the voter cast his
ballot.Overbearing spouses, parents, bosses, union leaders, or even
religious figures can much more easily apply pressure when they can see how
someone voted than if that someone enjoys the privacy of the election booth.A few folks who are actually out of the area on election day ought to
vote early, in person. Everyone else ought to vote in person, on election day,
on paper ballots that are easily counted in each precinct with numbers reported
via very public means.Mail in ballots too easily facilitate fraud
with ballot boxes appearing well after the election date. Online voting is even
more problematic and difficult to secure.Paper ballots, in person,
with positive ID, having registered well in advance.
This is not the outcome I wanted. But votes are votes and I respect the
results. It says a great deal about Mia’s tenure that she, apparently,
won by such a slim margin in such a GOP state.The razor thin win
should make her reflect on how she can better represent her constituents.I still hold out hope Ben can pull this off. The One-Party state is
unhealthy and must end.
Hope she wins. Maybe Trump will embrace HER then! #FeelTheEmbrace
With Ben McAdams already back in Washington DC, this might be the most hilarious
development in the history of Utah politics.GO Mia!
So it has been 11 days since the election, when will the votes finally be
counted? What is the hold up?
Just the fact that McAdams campaigned for the Clintons is reason enough to NEVER
get my vote. He would not be able to represent me.
@new to UtahI live in the fourth district and I received more anti
mcadams mailers than anti love.
I voted for her, mainly because McAdams won't vote the way I want him to
vote. She may win this time, but I think this may be her last time even past the
Go Mia !!!
The fact that this race will not be fully counted until nearly two weeks after
the election, when ever the bumbling incompetents in Broward and West Palm Beach
have finished up their work proves that Utah;s election process is horribly
broken.Congratulations to our congressperson-still to be-elected,
whomever it might be. The delay is not their fault.
This is more entertaining than a Jazz game...and DEFINITELY more entertaining
than watching Real SL.When do we go into sudden death? That would be
cool. The next vote counted determines the winner.
If she does win, I hope next time she will try harder to win. Remember for
all of you who voted for McAdam's, you also voted for Nancy Poloise and
The resilience of Mia Love no matter what the final outcome is truly
inspirational. Democrat leaning Salt Lake county and the resistance to Trump and
money flowing from Democratic donors, to even still be in this race is quite
She has been beholden to outside powers her entire term. Please don't do
this to us again. This district has no representation if she wins.
So let me ask this. Why if Itah is having a hard time figuring out the vote, why
is it only Florida that is on the national news. I thought McAdams had won until
I read this mornings paper. I’m not a Mia Love fan but really if she wins.
She should send a tweet to Trump with “I’m baack, and thanks but no
thank I don’t need you”. If she had any respect for the rule of law
she would vote her Conscience and leave the GOP and the Dems. Become a
My question is, if Mia is declared the winner, how much "love" will she
Who is managing the election process? What is their party affiliation?Something stinks.
It is interesting how so many mocked the republicans for their voter fraud
conspiracy theories.Now that the shoe is on the other foot so many
democrats are crying voter fraud against the McAdams team. The
referee is always great when he calls it in favor of your team and always a
_shill_ when he calls it in favor of the other team
Amazes me that voting forms are sent to registered voters with clear
instructions and deadlines and then the counting starts and everyone gets to
argue about how to count the votes of the people who did not follow
instructions. This should not be happening. One poster on here literally
asked, "if my wife or others give me their ballot to fill out and sign for
them, why does it matter?"It does matter. And what if you just
intercept the ballot for your wife and kids, fill it out, and sign it without
even telling them? Does that matter? Or what if you grab your neighbors ballot
out of their mailbox in a group of mailboxes on a country road like where I
live? Fill those out and sign them. Does that matter? Or, if your kid is on a
mission or away at school and you just fill that out for him and sign it, does
that matter?My son and his wife lived with me, moved out of state
but didn't register in the new state. If I just filled those out and
signed them, would that have matterred? I could have, but did not. I
didn't even forward them to the kids, because they are no longer residents
- just reminded them to register and vote in their new address. Not everyone
The EducatorSounds like someone needs a little education themselves;
why should Mia give up when she’s currently leading?
does any one thing that the republican Mia is not going to win in Utah after the
state is still counting after 11 days after the election?
If Mia goes on to win I agree, the President will not apologize. I do think
however if she does win seh just ought to tweet out to the "I'm
I don’t understand contacting voters to resolve irregularities. If the
ballot is not properly filled out or not signed correctly, it should not count.
The process should be transparent and objective. I don’t think the
signature issue is so much how you sign your name but if what you sign matches
what name you registered to vote under. Signatures not matching could nullify a
lot of votes.
D'ya think trump might apologize for the nasty things he said about her?Nah.trump is always right. But now he owes her
for helping him undermine confidence in our election system.Where
did I put those anti-nausea pills ?
The whole signature thing doesn't really make sense to me. Are these people
trained to determine whether a signature is the same or not? I sign my name a
100 times and it comes out a 100 different ways. Does it even matter if the
signatures are not the same? As long as the same registered voter is not voting
twice, shouldn't all votes be counted regardless of signature? What if I
give my ballot to my wife or friend or anybody and let them sign on my behalf?
It seems that shouldn't be against the rules. The important thing is each
valid voter only votes once, and you don't need a signature to figure that
Go, Love! Go!
Most likely Love will win narrowly since Utah County's been the slower one
to count votes so far (even accounting for there being much more of the district
in SL County which McAdams leads by narrower percentage gaps).
For the first time, I did not vote straight Republican- I disagreed with the way
Love handled her campaign finances. And reading about her lawsuit against the
county only reinforced my decision. BUT carefully engineered
borders through Gerrymandering might work out exactly as designed.
I don’t think the lawsuit was about stopping the count as much as it was
to stall it while her campaign verified the protocols for allowing questionable
or provisional ballots to be counted were fair and adequate. Mia needs all the
votes she can get. Stopping counting votes when you’re behind would make
no sense. To her credit, SL County Clerk Sherri Swenson has welcomed observers
and has aimed for transparency. Let the count continue.
I am not a fan of the "lawfare" approach to counting votes, but given
the number of times where Democrats have been declared winners after
questionable legal challenges, it is certainly not inappropriate for Mia Love to
take precautions to keep the counting in a heavily Democrat majority county with
a Democrat supervisor of elections and Democrat District Attorney under close
scrutiny.Let's wait and see who is the winner when all the
legal votes cast on time are counted.But, the very next step should
be to end this cumbersome and fraud-friendly "vote by mail" nonsense
which cannot give us accurate results a week and a half after the election. Get
back to in person voting at local poling places on election day with the only
exceptions being for traditional absentee ballots for a valid reason.
I just checked the current election results on Utah's Lieutenant
Governor's office and Mia Love is ahead by 419 votes. Utah County evidently
just did their update whereas Salt Lake County updated before 3:00 p.m. today.
I question her moral turpitude. Does she think she is above law because she is a
Finally a person who can make sense. Why halt the vote counting when they are
way behind anyway. They had no exact ideas of abuses and were grasping at
straws. If she wins any way, she will look stupid. If she still loses, she
will not look like a poor loser.
Look like Mia will be revisiting her old talking points; "Please fasten your
seat belts and return your tray tables to their full upright and locked
The 2018 midterm election has been heralded as as the year of the woman...except
by the democrats in Utah.ID politics has been turned on its head.And Jason may very well get his wife back.
looks like the voters have dismissed Mia
Mia Love needs better advisors. Neither they nor she appear to be familiar with
either campaign financing laws or--as this lawsuit demonstrates--with basic
litigation norms. Smart lawyers don't ask a court for relief that
isn't practical, isn't fair to both parties, and isn't supported
by any statutes or cases.
Good. Now make her pay for the wasted court time. She has tens of thousands of
illegal campaign funds- use that to reimburse taxpayers.
I fully admit I am not in the camp on either candidateBut I am tired
of filing a lawsuit for thugs like this. Her attorney should have been smart
enough to tell her he/she wasting money to file.Most cotes cast
were (1) against democrats, or (2) against McAdams Doubt more than
10 were actually for this individual who still hasn’t accomplished
anything since her election way too many years agoThere has to be
another republican who can run her out of office
"Harrington said the Love campaign "will continue to closely observe the
integrity of this election process.”Love brought no integrity
to this campaign, none at all."The judge also said the actions
sought by Love raised "signficant" constitutional concerns because the
lawsuit sought to change the procedure for challenging ballots only in Salt Lake
County and only to ballots not yet counted."This is sort of like
ballot gerrymandering. No cause for concern in Republican areas, but not she
wants to control what goes on in areas Love doesn't control.I
hope McAdams beats this do nothing, self serving Republican.
Time for Mia to call it quits. She lost, get over it. Time for Mia and the
repubs to #moveon. Stop being poor sports. Go Ben McAdams! Finally
we got some representation! Yes! Get Educated
Mia may end up winning but her constituents will remember how she played the
game. Tough times don’t make character, they reveal it.
Good!All this does is further underline how little she does, and how
poorly she does it.
Was the point of this lawsuit to say to SL County, "We're watching
you?"Not really sure as it seems pointless.Either
way, looks like Love may well end up being declared the winner.