University of Utah's expansion for football stadium expected to be completed in 2021, capacity will increase to 51,444
@Aunty, How does the myriad University of Texas campuses make a
relative comparison to the lone U of U? Brigham campuses(Provo-Idaho-Hawaii)
don't remotely compare to UT schools. UT-Texas schools are top-notch in
@Auntie Even so, Utah fans complained bitterly that BYU fans had
purchased most of the Las Vegas Bowl tickets before Utah was invited.-----So? We support our team, we did the same against Colorado
State. What we didn't do is sent emails to Vegas reps to make
BYU our opponent.We also complained that we didn't want to play
the cupcake down south. Even if you were our "best bowl
opponent" we rather have played a B12 team like Indiana.
Aunty Mythology - Monrovia, CANov. 15, 2018 2:13 p.m.utemythology
U dropped BYU in 2014 and 2015 because Chris Hill didn’t think
you could handle playing BYU and Michigan OOC in the same season.------And he was wrong, see 2015 Vegas.Bottom line,
Ute Nation doesn't want to play BYU both in football and basketball.While you guys are sending emails to Vegas and State legislatures to
force us to play you.Why are you having hard time understanding that
Real Ute - Dallas, TXNov. 15, 2018 1:36 p.m.@Snack-PAC,“The University of Utah has only one campus in SLC. Brigham has three
campuses.....Provo-Idaho-Hawaii.”The University of Texas has
multiple campuses, but everyone knows that when referring to the University of
Texas at Austin, University of Texas is sufficient.The sane logic
applies to the flagship Brigham Young University at Provo.Since U
seem to be confused with such simple details, SLC is being added to University
of Utah or Utah-SLC to help U sort things out.
utemythology LOL at how U live in denial.Chris Hill on
explaining why he dropped BYU to schedule Michigan:“With a
nine-game Pac-12 Conference schedule, we are not going to hand our football
coach and team a non-conference schedule with Michigan, Utah State and BYU in
the same year. Utah State and BYU are very good teams and instate games take an
emotional toll that could impact our success in Pac-12 play.”That’s an exact quote from Chris Hill, NOT something made up by BYU
"Chris Hill didn’t think you could handle playing BYU and Michigan OOC
in the same season."AuntyBee:Hah! You know THAT is
not true--because Utah DID beat both in 2015. (Even though coog fans awarded
themselves the margin-of-defeat trophy. Or was it the yardage-in-defeat trophy?
There are so many coog defeat trophies, I forget.) Hill just wanted
BYU-P to start getting used to the idea they were NOT going to be playing Utah
regularly. I see some of you are still having a hard time accepting that.
@Snack-PAC,The University of Utah has only one campus in SLC.
Brigham has three campuses.....Provo-Idaho-Hawaii.Just move
on......we do NOT care. You people don't "get it," and we want no
part of it. The future schedules reflect my truths. Utah should cancel
Brigham-Provo football in 2021-22. Almost all Utes are sending letters to our U
wanting y'all to move on.Why should Utah play Brigham-Provo in
any sport? It is a ludicrous thought or contemplation.
utemythology “We want to cancel the series like 2014 and 2015
and didn't even want to play you in Vegas.While your fanbase
sent 50,000 emails to Vegas Bowl reps to demote Utah to Vegas.”😂 U dropped BYU in 2014 and 2015 because Chris Hill
didn’t think you could handle playing BYU and Michigan OOC in the same
season.If U hadn’t run away from BYU during the regular
season, U would have missed out on playing your best bowl opponent since joining
the PAC 12.Even so, Utah fans complained bitterly that BYU fans had
purchased most of the Las Vegas Bowl tickets before Utah was invited.
Jonnyboy “Never heard of supply and demand, huh?”It’s quite obvious that current commuter school demand barely
exceeds 51,000, or the Utes would be building a bigger stadium.Utah-SLC is understandably worried that demand on the hill has peaked and that
adding more seats would simply result in thousands of empty seats when the
inevitable collapse of the program happens when Whittingham retires, just as we
saw in the Huntsman Center after Majerus left.
Nice expansion. The U needs to at least be over the 50000 seat mark for the Pac
Snack PAC - Olympus Cove, UtahNov. 15, 2018 12:17 p.m.Real Ute“BYU should go on their merry way and not bother us.......we Utes
would be grateful if they did.”LOL at how fans of Utah-SLC,
the 2nd most rival obsessed fanbase in the country, live in denial.The truth is, except for Utah-SLC, U care more about BYU, than any other
school on the planet.------That's not the truth,
that is your fantasy. We want to cancel the series like 2014 and
2015 and didn't even want to play you in Vegas.While your
fanbase sent 50,000 emails to Vegas Bowl reps to demote Utah to Vegas.Those are facts, not opinions from some obscure blog from a Michigan fan.
@BlutoSpeaking of ugly, BYU football, i.e. Idaho State.Our new endzone will be envy of BYU fans for years to come as they downsize
over the next decade.
"It's about attendance not sellouts."Pluto:Never heard of supply and demand, huh? Those late-season BYU-P home tickets
are sold by the school for pennies, where any available Utah home tickets are
commanding premiums over face value.No, it's all about the
Real Ute“BYU should go on their merry way and not bother
us.......we Utes would be grateful if they did.”LOL at how
fans of Utah-SLC, the 2nd most rival obsessed fanbase in the country, live in
denial.The truth is, except for Utah-SLC, U care more about BYU,
than any other school on the planet.
I think that Y fans like Bluto need to read the writings on the wall. After BYU
basketball acted terribly, the U will no longer schedule them, now exists a
hoops tourney in SLC in rotating years. Utah has also not scheduled BYU football
after 2022 and Utah AD Mark Harlan told the BYU Holmoe "that it may not be
possible ever again." Utah should flat-out cancel Brigham-Provo football in
2021-22. The actual contract does not guarantee Brigham-Provo anything. Brigham
is guaranteed thru 2020 is all.Utah needs to move on, not look back.
I like the expansion; everything about it.Now will the Moderator
reject this comment?Unbelievable.
I thunk BYU fans like Bluto need to lash out because the Y is not a factor, and
cannot be in the 21st century. The Y was an analog era WAC aberration is all.
Who cares?The incredible U of U is steaming along, all things going
well, but need to look at the "old days" as just that.BYU
should go on their merry way and not bother us.......we Utes would be grateful
if they did.
TommyLapping BYU ?We were led to believe that your rival is
Colorado.Apparently not.Utah's 3 Conference Championships
in the Pac-12, out of nearly 100 competed for, is hardly impressive?Utah's facilities have been behind BYU's for decades and still
are.BYU currently has 6 of it's programs in the Top 25.And Utah?
@Eddie should goYour argument falls apart when arguing sellouts. BYU's LES currently seats 19k more fans than does Utah's (look at me
Eccles) theater.So arguing sell out's is just silly.Again, Utah has never averaged more fans, in football or basketball, than BYU,
for at least 40 years.Even when Utah was playing in 5600 seat Einar
Nielsen Fieldhouse, BYU was playing to 11k fans in Smith Fieldhouse.It's about attendance not sellouts.
@mussingaround - Palo Alto, CA"Even after the expansion, LES
attendance will dwarf RES attendance.btw, if you think the corporate
big shots sitting in those new luxury suites entertaining their clients are
going to add any volume or enthusiasm to the atmosphere at RES, you're
going to be sadly disappointed"- - - - -What is interesting is
ASU just spent $300 million on their stadium to go from 75,000 seats to 55,000.
75,000 seats were no good when average attendance was only 55,000. BYU might
@ Bluto,There is no creepier and boring game-day experience on this
planet than at antiquated, stale LES!
Bluto: "Another ugly endzone, i.e Utah State" LOL Bluto,
always angry over some way in which Utah is lapping his team again. LOL!
Ugh....Another ugly endzone, i.e Utah State
I agree with Old But Not Stupid. Can't we just celebrate this announcement?
It will be great for the entire community.
These comments read and sound like a petty, intra-family squabble. I guess that may be more true than many of the commenters would want to admit.
UoU 1991 - Park City, UTNov. 14, 2018 10:14 a.m.Only a
thousand new seats for the average Joe Utah fan - pathetic.------------Nope. Perfect.We're not gonna
overbuild to 65K like your team did, making things look awful when fans dont
show up. Not sure when you guys last sold out a game.
I could not be happier...enclosing the stadium to a complete bowl will make it
louder...sorry nephew of Dallas Cowboy luxury box owner. We are adding way more
cement and metal plus enclosing the gaps...it will be louder, plus we are adding
a lot more people. And for the people with season tickets in the
south endzone...that kind of sucks, but we have been told for years that this
was coming. Just saying...GO UTES!!
Real Ute - “I think this is great! I like the 5k added seating, more
enclosed..........and that place "rumbles" like no other!.......It will
get even more intense/loud.”You’re in for a rude
awakening my friend.I’ve sat in luxury suites like these in
stadiums across the country and they’re generally very quiet compared to
the fans in stands. My uncle, who was a big Utah donor, used to own a luxury
suite at the old Dallas Cowboys stadium, before the Jerry dome was built.Removing that large block of cement in the South End Zone that reflected
sound down onto the field, and replacing it with all of those luxury suites,
will dissipate the sound and dampen the noise on the field considerably.The real fans will now be high in the nose bleed sections.
As a long time season ticket holder in the south end zone I hate this. I am
currently in row five. My seats will now be way high in the corner of the end
zone. So basically the University is saying they don't care about the long
time hard core fans. They just want to sell luxury seating to rich people.
deductive reasoning,According to the numbers that you posted, since
Utah joined the PAC 12 and BYU became a football independent:Lavell
Edwards Stadium has been 93% full. Rice Eccles Stadium has been 102% full.BYU's home attendance last year was its lowest in the 21st
century.BYU hasn't averaged filling its stadium in a season
since becoming independent. Utah has averaged playing to an over-capacity crowd
since 2008.Since becoming independent, BYU averages +4,400 empty
seats in LES. Utah averages playing to a RES that is 900 fans over capacity.RES has been a sold-out venue for the Utes' last 55 home games.
The Cougars have sold out on average less than 1 home game per year since
becoming independent. Of the 6 sellouts as an independent, the opponent was
Utah 3 times (every time the Utes traveled to Provo).Utah is due for
a stadium expansion. BYU's stadium isn't too small for the 21st
It'll be interesting to see how Utah's administration reacts when Kyle
retires and Utah's football program tanks just like Utah's basketball
program tanked for several years after Sweater Man left, leaving a vast sea of
empty red chairs in RES.------------------Real UteI would be real careful about biting the hand that feeds U.There are lots of BYU, Utah State and Weber State fans running Utah's
government and they might not take too kindly to the arrogant Utes refusing to
play any in-state teams.Utah could suddenly find that funding for
Utah Valley University, Weber State, and Utah State is much more important.
Looks cool. But they should have maxed out the bowl instead of
zig-zag the top.
BYU-Utah Football AttendanceYear - BYU | Utah2000 - 60,619 |
38,5382001 - 60,450 | 34,0692002 - 62,176 | 35,4292003 -
61,501 | 35,1342004 - 64,236 | 45,1552005 - 58,204 | 41,5362006 - 60,524 | 43,2792007 - 64,497 | 42,5932008 - 64,102 |
45,3422009 - 64,236 | 45,1552010 - 61,381 | 45,4592011 -
60,265 | 45,1492012 - 61,161 | 45,3472013 - 61,225 | 45,1942014 - 57,141 | 46,4372015 - 58,532 | 46,8212016 - 58,569 |
46,5062017 - 56,267 | 45,913Average - 60,838 | 42,948With an average of nearly 18,000 more fans every season, LES has drawn roughly
322,000 more fans than RES this century.
goredLES capacity = 63,725RES capacity = 51,444That is hardly "dwarfing".-----------------Actually, 12,000+ is significant "dwarfing".It's
quite obvious that after years of market studies, Utah's handlers
rightfully concluded that it would be a total waste of money to build a 60,000+
seat stadium, because Utah's fickle commuter school fanbase simply
isn't big enough to fill such a stadium.
None of their games have been a sell out this year, and the last several games
starting with Northern Illinois looked like 1/3 of the stadium was empty.
Compare this to Utah's 56 straight sellouts. Utah's program is in far
better shape!BYU has had over an over 60,000 seat arena for 40 years
!And now even 40 years later, the rice bowl is still under 60,000!
And you brag about sell outs?You're a sell
out......the U is a sellout.......come back in another 40 years when you build a
real stadium and then lets compare fan base and capacity! Because
right now, Bingham and Alta both deliver more fans to games than the U!
Real Ute"What I do know, a fact, Utah won't play BYU
football after 2022."Regardless of how desperately U try to run
away from BYU, you'll always be totally obsessed with BYU.The vitriolic hate for all things BYU that borders on irrational will
continue.U can't help yourselves.
@mussing"Even after the expansion, LES attendance will dwarf RES
attendance."LES capacity = 63,725RES capacity = 51,444That is hardly "dwarfing". Also, BYU rarely gets a sell out
anymore, and frequently has tons of empty seats. None of their games have been
a sell out this year, and the last several games starting with Northern Illinois
looked like 1/3 of the stadium was empty. Compare this to Utah's 56
straight sellouts. Utah's program is in far better shape!
@ U of U Grad,Most human beings dismiss 100% of what "you
people" claim as utter folly/fiction. Try again pal..........I wish you
ultimately happy, realistic days in the future dear soul. I care!
@ U of U Grad,I donate millions to the U and I don't get, or
would ask for free tickets. You just don't know what goes on buddy. Who
runs the state of Utah pards? I feel bad your you elder.
Why do you guys seem to care so much about the stadium in Provo! Lavell Edwards
Stadium is an awesome place to play and or see a football game. Rice Eccles is
also a great place to see a football game... an get beer dumped on you! Both
stadiums are awesome in their own way. We can honestly call RES the stadium that
Kyle built! What a great thing for a Cougar alumnus to hang on his wall Well
done Utah and congratulations. Welcome to the big time.
@ Scenic View,You can make light of Utah's forecasted
improvements to RES all you care to. What I do know, a fact, Utah won't
play BYU football after 2022. Many Utes that donate big dollars, like I, to the
U of U, also write many letters demanding that Utah needs to stop scheduling BYU
in every sport. The party is over-with for you souls, pal. We Utes are hoping,
and have spoken to, Utah AD Mark Harlan to flat-out cancel BYU in 2021-22. We
need to stop this madness! BYU cannot play folks and are wasting Utah's
valuable time now that we are in the PAC.
I like it, can't wait to buy more season tickets.Go UTES!
What a beautiful venue! It's a good day to be a UTE fan!
Real Ute:For our edification, please back up your statement about
free tickets with real facts. Otherwise, we'll just dismiss this comment
as we do most of your comments as fanatical. FYI, the LDS Church
has been a consistent donor to the U since its inception, including but not
limited to recent contributions to the new law school building and the old Wall
Mansion on South Temple that is now the Monson Center.
I totally agree with Seldom Seen Smith!!!!Utah's RES is so
scenic, quaint and a tremendously intimidating venue. I've been a
commercial photog for 35+ years and RES gets so loud, that not even current
VR(vibration reduction) lenses or gyro stabilization fixtures on tv cameras can
compete with what pure sound energy creates. That is why on 3rd down at Utah
your tv looks fuzzy. I've shot many big games at Utah on the
sidelines.......it is unreal, tough to shoot folks!I'm really
happy about this important design augmentation that the U will create!Gooooo Utes!
Having attended games at Cal, USC, UCLA, Stanford, and BYU with a ton of empty
seats...I totally agree with the philosophy of keeping the sell outs. A full
51k stadium has so much more intensity than a 70-90k stadium that is two thirds
full. In addition, it is nice to know that I can always easily sell my tickets
if something comes up when I am unable to attend the game because of the demand
ekute - Layton, UTNov. 14, 2018 12:16 p.m.mussingaround,“Your own players prefer to play anywhere but LES”That’s a lie; the one player who alluded to that, has since retracted
his off-the-cuff remark and apologized to BYU fans.RES expansion
looks like one giant luxury suite for fat cats that will kill the vibe in the
South End Zone.Except for more bathrooms and a thousand more
bleacher seats, there’s nothing there for the average fan.
Perfect! The new stands/seating do not extend as high as I feared,
thus not significantly blocking the view of the mountains and Cottonwood
Canyons..As an alpine skier, UU alum, and college football fan, to
myself, this quality facility is the greatest stadium on earth.
Wallbanger is spot on!!! Going to BYU for any football game is creepy. There is
no gameday festivities(tailgating), the traffic is terrible, kids are all over
the place needing to "go potty" every 3 minutes.........it is no fun,
food is awful, and the seating is cramped(and I'm in great shape, no lard
butt), Y fans are bizarre beyond comprehension.......not good!
Lester L. Wester:That is too funny and true what you said.
I’ve gone to many games at LES, not nearly as many as RES, but it is truly
night and day difference in how much better the game experience is at
Rice-Eccles. LES has more of a Chucky Cheese/retirement home/looking
for a future spouse feel than a football game. It’s hard to say no to my
neighbors and co-workers when they invite me to a free byu football game though.
Thankfully it’s not very often. I’ve been to over 40
concerts in my life, and the smaller venues are WAY more enjoyable. Meaning, a
massive 60,000+ stadium doesn’t mean better. Especially when you
can’t fill it. It’s no wonder a lot are downsizing.Can’t wait until this expansion is done. The pics look awesome!
@ Common Ground,I totally agree with you! LDS church officials get
free Utah football tickets too! It just ain't fair!
mussingaround,Your own players prefer to play anywhere but les. Sadly disappointed?
Wow! First reaction - First class! I do think expansion should
have been in the 55,000 range. Any consideration for future growth rather than
"preserving the sell-out streak" which means it's shy of current
demand without long term growth.But as a fan currently in my
70's I marvel at how far the program has developed in the 40+ years of
season tickets. PAC-12 and this stadium.... I only wish I could see the future
Great for the fat cats, but not much to get excited about for the average Utah
Mussing: "btw, if you think the corporate big shots sitting in those new
luxury suites entertaining their clients are going to add any volume or
enthusiasm to the atmosphere at RES, you're going to be sadly
disappointed."Utah doesn't need to have any concern
regarding crowd volume or enthusiasm. It wasn't a Utah player that said
he prefers playing away games because of the lack of enthusiasm at his own
stadium. Yes, yours is larger, but filling it up with disinterested old ladies
knitting, young mothers changing dirty diapers, little kids running around, and
the rest in line for a Cougar Tail is not a big-time college sports environment.
Bragging about a stadium that could be dismantled with a
screwdriver and a pair of pliers is amusing. Your jealousy is showing.
I really only care about two things: 1) that the price of my season tickets
doesn’t go up to pay for expansion; and 2) that no government officials or
state legislators get free football tickets, ever.
This looks awesome! could not be happier with how this turned out.
Looks like the South End Zone just got a lot quieter.
I think this is great! I like the 5k added seating, more enclosed..........and
that place "rumbles" like no other!.......It will get even more
intense/loud. Utah is really a fine university in all ways! I am grateful I
attended the U.Gooooooooo Utes!
ekuteEven after the expansion, LES attendance will dwarf RES
attendance.btw, if you think the corporate big shots sitting in
those new luxury suites entertaining their clients are going to add any volume
or enthusiasm to the atmosphere at RES, you're going to be sadly
UoU 1991,You could turn byu's average joe seats into luxury seats and
they would still be empty.
Only a thousand new seats for the average Joe Utah fan - pathetic.