Boyd Matheson: 'Country first' and 'America first' are not the same

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  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Nov. 14, 2018 11:31 a.m.

    "Congress seem to forget that oath when it comes to protecting America from Trump." Seems to be people are forgetting that Trump is the constitutional elected President. And although you may disagree with some policies, Trump has not violated any part of the constitution. Calling for anyone to protect America from the President is anti constitutional.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 13, 2018 11:48 a.m.

    @patrioticAMERICAN 11:32
    We all agree on about 80% of the basic things in life. But like you said, it's that 20% that we all seem to focus on, and that 20% is what keeps us divided instead of being the UNITED States of America.

    It's always been that way. It just seems even worse today than when I was younger. It gets worse every time we elect a new President. I think part of it is that the other side (whichever side you are on) gets mad about how the other side treated your President, so when their President is elected you do the same thing to the new President (or worse). So the contention just escalates each time we elect a new one.

    It's almost like the gang mentality that keeps gang-members in almost constant-contention with members of their rival tribe.

    It gets worse with every President we elect. At least it has for my lifetime.

    We are divided no doubt. And yet, on most things in life (outside politics)... we basically agree on most basics in life, until politics are brought in.

  • SuzViews Mesa, AZ
    Nov. 13, 2018 11:48 a.m.

    “It is true that opportunistic politicians may have channeled an internally focused America first mantra to parlay the angst, fear and frustration facing the nation and secure power for a season. But the duty, honor, sacrifice and service of country first will stand as an eternal monument to those heroes who lived their lives and gave their all to make a difference for others and ensure the real dream of America continues as the last, best hope on earth.“

    So true! Thank you, @BoydMatheson & DNews for enlightening & educating us regarding this important distinction.

    I also appreciated Boyd Matheson’s example of elucidating his points on CNN while finding common ground with a person sharing opposing viewpoints recently. They were both civil and I learned a lot from their exchange.

    It’s not O.K. to embrace nationalism. Today, it was reported hate crimes have gone up 17% this year, a number that has risen three years in a row. The language we use matters and sends signals to those we lead as well as to other global leaders. Nationalism is on the rise globally.

    I shared this great article on social media today. Everyone who cares about America needs to read it on 🌎 Kindness Day!

  • Kent C. DeForrest Provo, UT
    Nov. 13, 2018 10:08 a.m.

    Good column, Boyd. As Macron pointed out also, nationalism is the opposite of patriotism. Nationalism is what Hitler implemented. Trump would do the same, albeit in a more benign and disorganized way. America First, as Trump sees it, is really nothing more than American Alone.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 13, 2018 9:58 a.m.

    @patrioticAMERICAN
    RE: "So patriot or nationalist? You can't be both"...
    ---
    I don't see everything as black-or-white nothing in between, like you.

    It's a continuum, not binary. People can have varying degrees of Patriotism. And varying degrees of Nationalism.

    You named wars that were caused by Nationalism run amock. But you didn't mention other wars that most Americans think had good motivations.

    Revolutionary War:
    Those people (Gen Washington, Paul Revere, etc) were patriots, and they felt nationalism (the actual definition of "Nationalism").

    These patriots wanted America to be it's own country, and were willing to fight to make it a separate nation. They fought England to become a nation. Later they fought France, Spain, etc.

    It's not black-or-white... your either 100% patriot. Or 100% nationalist. You could be a mix. 45% nationalist, 55% patriot, etc, or any other mix.

    We are all patriots to some degree (not just you). And we all have some feelings of nationalism (even Democrats).

    When it becomes extreme/radical it's a problem IMO.

    All Rs are not the same. All Ds are not the same. Life isn't black-or-white, all-or-noting. It's mostly somewhere in between.

  • jsf Centerville, UT
    Nov. 12, 2018 3:37 p.m.

    So funny to quote the EU members dissing on Trump. The French president calling on the EU to create an EU army to protect the EU from the U.S. Calling on the EU to become a nationalist organization. Only problem the EU has, is the members don't want to become solely the EU. They want to retain their individual national sovereignty. That is why each country of the EU maintains their own armies, They really don't trust each other. They don't trust the globalists. The globalists don't want you to realize EU members are nationalists.

  • patrioticAMERICAN South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 12, 2018 12:01 p.m.

    It's clear that a large faction of Americans are either ignorant of history, or unwilling to learn it's lessons. The "nationalism" of the 20's & 30's in America & throughout Europe & Asia, are precisely what brought us WWII & the Holocaust. I know what I'm taking abt, having read thousands of pgs. of books abt. WWII & it's causes, from people who watched it unfold; & watched hundreds of hours of documentaries abt. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Franco & their rise to power.

    Macron, put it very well at the WWI 100th anniversary commemmoration in France this wkend when he said that millions of soldiers who died in the Great War fought to defend the “universal values” of France, & to reject the “selfishness of nations only looking after their own interests." He continued, "Because patriotism is exactly the opposite of nationalism.
    By putting our own interests first, w/no regard for others, we erase the very thing that a nation holds dearest, & the thing that keeps it alive: its moral values,”

    He also denounced "fringe ideologies that have become more mainstream...that could undermine the legacy of peace we thought we had forever sealed.”

    So--patriot or nationalist? You can't be both.

  • patrioticAMERICAN South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 12, 2018 11:32 a.m.

    I find it interesting that of the 14 paragraphs in Boyd's article, 12 celebrated the life of Mayor Brent Taylor--his faith, his kindness & consideration for others, his belief in our democracy & his willingness to sacrifice his life to defend it. And yet the majority of responders chose to focus on 2 small paragraphs.

    Did they even bother to read most of this homage to the life of a great man, one of the many unsung heroes in our nation's history, whose sacrifices mostly go unnoticed by the masses because they were not wealthy or famous? It's people like this who make America "great", not because they die, but because they're "willing" to do so.

    But that alone doesn't make Taylor truly great--it is his humanity that shines thru this OpEd--the kindness he showed to a grieving widow, to his neighbors in Ogden, to the Afghan people he encouraged towards democracy & the Afghan soldiers he fought along side of; & it's ironic that in the end, he was betrayed & killed by one of those soldiers.

    People like Taylor are what makes America great, not those who merely whine & pine for a time that never existed, when America was supposedly "greater" (except Pre-Trump in general).

  • countryvoice3 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2018 11:26 a.m.

    "the left's attempt to smear a good man"

    The "good man" who wants to shut down the election re-count he is winning, and have a new election in the election he is losing....that "good" man.

  • rptmaestro Tooele, UT
    Nov. 12, 2018 11:14 a.m.

    Mr. Matheson seems to be trying to "make a man an offender for a word" by equating "America first" with some cleverly disguised and nefarious agenda. But to use Mr. Matheson's own argument, I would remind him and his readers that for those of us who live in America, America is our country. To put America first in America is to put our country first. For
    Americans to subordinate American priorities to globalist priorities is to surrender our sovereignty.

    "America first" means that in America, American sovereignty is the first and supreme law of the land. The fiction that any decision made by any global body should supercede American priorities in America is contrary to every principle of federalism and republican government. No matter what community I live in, my community's priorities come first in my community. We elect our representatives to represent the community from which they come and no other party. They cannot and must not serve two masters.

    I would expect a citizen of any other country to behave the same in relation to their own land.

  • patrioticAMERICAN South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 12, 2018 10:44 a.m.

    @Mike Richards: "...the sooner our Country will be great again."

    Tell me exactly what time period you're referring to, when America was so much greater than now! Was it during the 90's when we defended a repressive monarchy for oil, & Wall Street was King as corps amassed & consolidated power. Or during early 21st century when we attacked Iraq based on lies, & the greedy financial industry caused worldwide meltdown, then got bailed out by gov't who let millions lose their homes & jobs? Korean War in the 50's? Or 60's cultural revolution & Vietnam? Or 70's recessions, energy crisis & Watergate? Mafia control & violence of 20's or Great Depression? The McCarthy witch-hunt or Jim Crow era & powerful KKK? WWI, WWII (incl. Manzanar) or the eugenics & isolationism b/t the 2 that allowed Hitler to flourish? When robber barons ruled? Or maybe the Civil War, Trail of Tears, Gov. Bogg's Extermination Order, or the Manifest Destiny era that conquered helpless islands in the Pacific? Or maybe when slavery was tolerated by half the country, & promulgated by the other half. Or maybe you're referring to 80's when Reaganomics created a huge gap b/t haves & have nots.

    Tell me. I'm waiting.

  • Gil Bates Mayfield, UT
    Nov. 12, 2018 9:21 a.m.

    Aah, the citizens-of-the-world crowd grousing about reality.

    It is a bit surprising to see the Deseret News chime in with the globalists,

    I recall reading a book at BYU, required for graduation. It was called, "Just and Holy Principles; Latter-day Saint readings on America and the Constitution."

    The selections were from apostles and prophets. I'm afraid some of those essays would be frowned upon by the editor these days.

    It's sad, really. I kinda liked what they said.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Nov. 12, 2018 8:18 a.m.

    My father has two sons, after his second heart attack he asked his two sons for assistance.

    His first son said, "What can I do to help you?"

    Second son said, "What's in it for me?"

    Patriotism is the first son and Nationalism is the second son.

    The burden of supporting and protecting this country is solely on the shoulders of the working class Americans.

    Republicans have fought solely for the rich to insure they pay nearly zero in taxes. In return the wealthy give less and get more.

    Which son are you?

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    Nov. 12, 2018 6:59 a.m.

    CB

    You say: "I see a President who is trying to maintain these same values, unfortunately against many of those who no longer appreciate the freedom that we all have a right too."

    I would hope you understand that many of us on the left politicially, and in the center increasingly see a President who does not understand American values, subverts democratic norms and appears to think that the freedoms we cherish belong to but a few.

    I don't assert that your point of view is unpatriotic, though perhaps misguided. However, your slam against political opponents as unAmerican is beyond the pale.

  • Nichol Draper West Jordan, UT
    Nov. 12, 2018 6:58 a.m.

    Country, America, me, its all the same. You are splitting hairs because you hate me. Pass laws to help me. Stop passing laws, or worse allowing un-elected bureaucrats to make regulations that hurt me. That is why America, our country has a constitution, elected officials write the laws, the president enforces them, the judicial branch gets to review each step, not some Washington bureaucrat.

  • John Jackson Sandy, UT
    Nov. 11, 2018 8:52 p.m.

    Amazing how timely this piece is, Boyd discussing the difference between Country First and America First just before French President Emmanuel Macron went on an international stage to, in effect, rebuke President Trump for his nationalism. Also at the international meeting, it was suggested nationalism is what brought about World War I. They were, in essence, saying, "President Trump, attitudes like yours caused the Great War in the first place."
    I think you have to feel for President Trump at this moment. He was embarrassed on an international stage. Still, it occurs to me that his America First agenda does have a conflict with his Make America Great Again motto. Part of America's greatness is that it is a world leader. And, if you are to lead the world, you have to convince the other nations you have their interests at heart. They won't be following you and you won't be leading them if the only interest you have is your own.

  • CB Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2018 4:29 p.m.

    Sorry Mr. M, but your politics is showing. I'm an American who loves her country. Who understands the founding and purpose we have been thusly blessed.
    In "God we Trust" is a part of that foundation and that is one of the reasons we have had men and women willing to sacrifice their lives to maintain that right and privilege.
    I see a President who is trying to maintain these same values, unfortunately against many of those who no longer appreciate the freedom that we all have a right too.

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 11, 2018 4:00 p.m.

    Equating nationalism with xenophobia, as some posters have done here, is false and reactionary. Nationalism is quite inclusive, as it disregards race, creed and color, in favor of our own citizens.

    Americans of all races are found in business, government and the academy, with great success all around.

    About a third of the foreign-born living in the USA are working and studying on visas...and we welcome them with open arms.

    Nationalists simply want the control of our borders to be in the hands of our government, guided by the law of the land.

    If you find evil in that notion, I'm sorry for you.

    Personally, I take issue with globalists who wish to erase the borders and embrace this new world order, a model that can never be managed by men. I resent those who wish to give our nation away to others.

    That old nationalist, Barbara Jordan, firmly declared that immigration must serve the national interest. The new narrative is just PC writ large. I want no part of it.

  • Chancey Sandy, UT
    Nov. 11, 2018 12:12 p.m.

    Since I live in America, "Country" and "America" are essentially the same thing. I wouldn't expect a Czech or a German or a Dominican to put America first. You don't have to travel much to see that the ideals that have made us great here, could do some good in other countries. In most foreign countries, litter abounds, corruption is rampant, security is iffy, air is dirty and water is polluted (filter everything). Freedom needs to be fought for as in Afghanistan. Slavery still exists in many, many countries. The ideals in each of our founding documents are the foundation of all that we have here. We fought for them (as in the Revolutionary and Civil Wars) and over the years have refined them. We continue to work and argue and yes even fight. Whatever the faults of ours or our leaders, these ideals, the ideals of freedom and liberty are the sum of Country and America. I love these ideals and am grateful for those who have sacrificed for them.

  • Habisha South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 11, 2018 12:01 p.m.

    While I deplore course speech and disrespectful behavior, it is not a one sided issue in the US or globally. If a previous US President would have given his whole allegiance to country first and been more concerned about all of the USA's citizens, this absolutely essential course correction wouldn't seem so drastic. Without President Trump I'm sure we would have continued to give away the farm so to speak. Thank you President Trump for staying a difficult and unpopular course.

    It's interesting the Mr. Matheson can't see clearly what this is about or why it is important, but has joined the voices of anti-trump at the expense of so much that is good. What has happened to strength and courage to be an independent voice?

  • Utah Girl Chronicles Eagle Mountain, UT
    Nov. 11, 2018 11:37 a.m.

    "Martin Luther King described America not as a place or simply a space rich in natural resources, but that America is essentially a dream, a mindset and a way of living."

    Matheson should not be using Brent Taylor's death as a means to delineate any distinction in today's political rhetoric. One needs to only look at Trump's bizarre antics in France this weekend, or bizarre antics whenever he is around world leaders, to realize "America First" is code for being anti-Muslim, anti-refugee, anti-immigrant, anti-science, and anti-Hispanic. Brent Taylor did not believe in any of that. Most world leaders do not subscribe to Trump's nationalist beliefs, only his base does.

    In the context of current politics, MLK's quote is inappropriate and disingenuous. It's much more like Langston Hughes' "Dream Deferred".

    "What happens to a dream deferred?

    Does it dry up
    Like a raisin in the sun?

    Or fester like a sore--
    And then run?

    Does it stink like rotten meat?
    Or crust and sugar over--
    like a syrupy sweet?

    Maybe it just sags
    like a heavy load.

    Or does it explode?"

    We are no longer the shining becon on a hill. Instead it's a chorus of "Where's mine?"

    It's more like dream exploded.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 11, 2018 11:03 a.m.

    Shaun (9:52 a.m.)
    Assume whatever you want. However, I want you to fully understand that I would never falsely imply that you said or wrote something that you never said or wrote. How you decide to make implications is only a reflection on you - not on me.

  • Shaun Sandy, UT
    Nov. 11, 2018 9:52 a.m.

    @mike richards

    So I suppose you supported Obamas tariffs against China and you also supported Obama reducing our involvement in the Middle East.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 11, 2018 9:12 a.m.

    @AnotherPerspective

    "I suppose we could debate President Trump's past if you wanted, but what I see at present is a man trying to do the right thing in spite of all the corruption and secret combinations going on in"

    He fired Sessions and appointed Whittaker, someone who has not been senate confirmed to his previous position (and thus could be an illegal pick), someone who must recuse from handling the Mueller investigation but hasn't (since he's pre-judged it), someone who is caught up in a fraud investigation, probably solely because Trump trusts him to do what he says on the Mueller probe or other things. That was just this past week. And it's not isolated. Trump does corrupt things all the time. He's got multiple prominent officials of his eam pleading guilty to crimes.

  • Mike Richards South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 11, 2018 7:50 a.m.

    Let's compare two Presidents and what they did:

    Barrack Obama meddled in the Middle East to put America's interests first, above the wishes, the rights and the obligations of sovereign nations whose leaders he helped topple. To me, that is the worst kind of arrogance. He told the world that only America's opinion matters. He put America first even while he back stabbed Americans with his "humble pie" rhetoric. Not only that, but Obama put God on the back burner as he directed the military to stash their Bibles even as he insisted that the Koran be respected.

    Donald Trump insists that all nations treat our COUNTRY fairly; that their trade policies are the same as our trade policies; that they do not subsidize their industries without facing trade tariffs to level the field; that they pay all obligations for their role in NATO. He recognizes God.

    It is clear that Obama put America first and that Trump is putting Country first. The sooner we see through the left's attempt to smear a good man, even as they promote the policies of Obama, the sooner our Country will be great again.

  • AnotherPerspective Marceline, MO
    Nov. 10, 2018 2:18 p.m.

    Mr. Matheson,

    I might point out the fact that two people you quoted, namely John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr., were extremely immoral men, and well-known for it.

    It also seems clear to me you are not a fan of President Trump. That's fine. You are entitled to your own opinion, but what I see is a man trying to do a major course correction with this country that should have been done decades ago.

    In fact, I see the Lord using this man very much the same way he did with Nebuchadnezzar when the people were wicked in Jerusalem during the time of Nephi. I also do not see President Trump being immoral in the highest office in the land like John F. Kennedy was.

    I suppose we could debate President Trump's past if you wanted, but what I see at present is a man trying to do the right thing in spite of all the corruption and secret combinations going on in not only Washington D.C., but in government across our country. Not to mention, there are liars trying to take him down at every turn.

    I pray for President Trump and his family to be protected because of this and I hope you will, too.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Nov. 10, 2018 12:31 p.m.

    I think the question is whether we see America as an idea and an ideal, or is it a 'homeland'? Is it a piece of ground we have to defend, or a standard we have to uphold?

  • countryvoice3 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2018 10:46 a.m.

    "We had to endure eight years of "fundamentally changing America"

    Seriously. Fundamentally changing America? Nonsense.

    We didn't start any wars, if that's what you mean, but neither did Regan. We got out of a war if that's what you mean, but so did Truman, and Nixon. We recovered from the worst economic downturn in 70 years..is that what you mean? We entered into new trade and foreign relations agreements, but so did Regan (let Russia keep their nukes..Iran had to give up nukes).

    What didn't happen is the President running around the world making "friends" with murderous dictators with no returns ( oh I forgot Obama bowed too low). What didn't happen is the President demeaning all the foundational institutions of American democracy.

    Fundamentally changing America...I don't think so....oh wait I forgot it was the first black President..that was a fundamental change.

  • Ragnarsson Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2018 9:52 a.m.

    We had to endure eight years of "fundamentally changing America" and the damage that philosophy created. I am all for putting our country, America, first. That does not mean we do not help others. It means that we put our house in order first so we have the ability to help others.

  • countryvoice3 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2018 9:01 a.m.

    "How dare you tell me what I think or what I mean when I say , "America First"?"

    I can't speak for Mr. Matheson, no can I control what you think when you say America First.

    What I can tell you for a fact is that Nationalism and Nationalist are terms used in the public sphere for people who's patriotism is based on xenophobia, jingoism, and chauvinism, so think what you may...and you may just be wiping your nose with the red handkerchief, but the bull will in fact see something entirely different..despite your intentions.

    This becomes even more evident when combined with policies that disengage us from the world. We were fine engaging in the world as long as we dominated, now despite still having an enviable position we are forced to "accommodate" the interests of others.

    Patriotism and common sense has plenty of room to work for the interests of America within the field of reality. Nationalism expressed through the policies of disengagement will always look like arrogance and superiority.

  • jimoray_3 Eden, UT
    Nov. 10, 2018 8:10 a.m.

    Once again a knock on President Trump is implied in a very sad event. Shameful. Major Taylor had a job to do and did it well in a very difficult area of the world. It’s a standard that we say here in Utah , God, Family, Country. But to ignore what the last administrations have done to destroy America is not living in reality. America and the military was depleted and damaged. President Trump looks out for America and it’s embarrassing that in our self righteous community here in Utah we get the same old bashing of a President while grandstanding on the death of a local hero. America first has its place and Country first does as well, but what is it with the PC crowd and this author thinking to continue the circus. God bless President Trump as he has and God bless the Taylor family that doesn’t need to be used in this article.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    Nov. 10, 2018 6:57 a.m.

    The Great Helmsman

    You hit the nail on the head. However, understanding what "nationalism" means to the world community (and indeed a great many Americans who still remember what the word meant in 1930's Europe and Japan) seems a tough row to hoe.

    That, or we have entered the mentality of that awful era yet once again.

    I sincerely hope that a national history lesson might staunch the glorification of the concept of "nationalism" as an accepted way to view patriotism in one's country and pride in citizenship.

  • marxist Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 10, 2018 12:05 a.m.

    @eigerjoe "Nationalism in America also means the interests of this country supersede the interests of other nations. This is what President Trump means when he says he is a nationalist. He is saying country first and America first, and I agree."

    In a world where capital, i.e. corporations, are global and where our environment is globally shared and threatened, your point of view makes no sense.

  • Ultra Bob Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Nov. 9, 2018 8:50 p.m.

    The author states: "Country first connotes duty, honor, sacrifice and service. America first is founded upon a more narcissistic nationalism that focuses on winning over others rather than winning with others".

    To me, the attributes he ascribes to "Country-first" are the demands that one might impose on his slaves. I'm not quite sure of the meaning for the "American group". The second part of the comment uses the words "winning over" and "winning with" to describe how someone sees the United States of America and our duty to all human beings.

    I am locked into the notion the Americans are those who believe the words of the Declaration of Independence define Americans, rather than the actual Constitution and the Bill-of-Rights that people are required to give oath to.

  • eigerjoe Sandy, UT
    Nov. 9, 2018 8:41 p.m.

    I am sorry Boyd Matheson, but you are completely wrong on this one. Country First and America First mean the same thing.

    Nationalism means each country is governed by the citizens of that country. Nationalism is the opposite of Globalism which means all countries are governed by a single global government (a worldwide government).
    Nationalism in America also means the interests of this country supersede the interests of other nations. This is what President Trump means when he says he is a nationalist. He is saying country first and America first, and I agree.

  • The Great Helmsman Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2018 7:52 p.m.

    @Yuge

    I suggest a little study on “nationalism” is in order. Let me please help you understand why throwing the word “nationalism” is a problem, especially in the United States.

    Nationalism across the globe, is associated with far-far-right politics, with fascism, with dictators such as Mussolini, Hitler, Pinochet, and Franco. Past American presidents did not describe themselves as nationalists. They called themselves patriots.

    Our Dear Leader adopted 'America First' as a slogan. This was the name of the isolationist and pro-fascist idealogy of the 1930s.

    I don’t want to be called a nationalist. You are free to define it anyway you want, but it might help you understand the reaction you get.

  • JBs Logan, UT
    Nov. 9, 2018 5:07 p.m.

    Your description of America First describes eloquently Trump's philosophy and actions of separatism, distancing ourselves from compassion, and service. Trump's America is selfish, harsh, and out for itself against everyone else. It is one of abandonment of long-time loyal friends and principles and made over in his image. We had our problems, but our chaos-loving leader is taking us down at an exponentially-faster rate than has been seen before. I'd rather rise. Long live "Country first".

  • Seldom Seen Smith Orcutt, CA
    Nov. 9, 2018 2:14 p.m.

    God bless America.

  • Yuge Opportunity Here Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 9, 2018 2:01 p.m.

    How dare you, Mr. Matheson?

    How dare you tell me what I think or what I mean when I say , "America First"?

    You may define nationalism to fit your narrative and conflate us with white supremacists, but that doesn't make your statements true. In the end, you are just widening the divide between us and the news outlets representing globalist interests.

  • unrepentant progressive Bozeman, MT
    Nov. 9, 2018 1:37 p.m.

    ij

    Could not disagree more. To criticize and offer substantive alternatives is to be patriotic. It is silly to claim that criticism is unpatriotic and that any small act of non-violence to provide a voice to that criticism is an act of betrayal or treason.

    IMHO, those who call out the people who demonstrate, write, speak up or otherwise make their thoughts known about the current state of affairs in this country are 100% more true to American traditions and values that the current crop of supporters and apologists for the President and the current ruling party in Congress.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    Nov. 9, 2018 1:29 p.m.

    This opinion is a shallow attempt to demonize those who really do put America first.
    America is our country. Country and America are the same. We all have a duty and responsibility to maker our country...America...top priority in our laws and policies.
    The rest of the world would obviously prefer that we be their obedient lapdog.

  • IJ Hyrum, Ut
    Nov. 9, 2018 1:12 p.m.

    Sorry; I disagree. To me, Country and America are the same. "My Country This of thee, ..." and "Oh beautiful, for spacious skies, ..." have the same ring. People who love this country, America, will do what it takes to keep us free. Those who are self-centered whine and complain, in one way or another, that they don't like what's going on rather than following proceedure to get it changed because it takes too long. Do we have problems - certainly. But disrespecting the country is no way to bring us together. Their platforms sound good, but in the end they are a wedge. Let us seek common ground, compromise, and make the way we do thing equitable for all - not just the politicians.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Nov. 9, 2018 12:18 p.m.

    Both US soldiers and US Congresspeople swear an oath to protect America. Mr. Taylor honored that oath with his life, while most in Congress seem to forget that oath when it comes to protecting America from Trump. Our enemies are growing stronger and unifying, while Trump is weakening our Allies and allegiances.