President Nelson condemns religious violence in wide-ranging interview

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  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 31, 2018 5:50 p.m.

    Sometimes the preaching of the Gospel offends some who do not want to live according to some of the doctrines of the Gospel. Undoubtedly, that is why Jesus Christ was crucified. Christ loves even sinners, but knows that by forsaking sins these can know greater joy; so He preaches the Gospel for the benefit of all.

  • Third try screen name Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 30, 2018 8:44 a.m.

    We have seen great discord and confusion in the Catholic Church as Pope Francis wades into political/social justice issues.

    LDS leaders must proceed with caution.

    Perhaps holy men of all stripes do it to be more relevant to the "nons" and Gen Y folks. They don't seem to embrace church like their parents did. There is a fine line between Christian living and activism sometimes.

    Good communication is what's needed, and it is sorely lacking. It would be great to have the prophets address immigration head-on in conference talks, but they don't. Instead they talk about not liking fences, signing alliance letters with other churches and appearing at the signing on legislation.

    A clear voice is called for...if that's God's will.

    Historically, groups like the Sanhedrin evolved to take on political power...to their detriment.

  • Cauthon75 Deering, NH
    Oct. 29, 2018 6:33 p.m.

    @stretchy I agree with your comment and commend you for your politeness. :-) As others have said, it is good to be able to discuss difficult topics and exchange ideas without being disagreeable with each other. We are few in number (the harvest is great and the laborers are few) with plenty of enemies, we should try to be united with each other.

  • Semi-Strong Louisville, KY
    Oct. 29, 2018 3:44 p.m.

    Let us never confuse disagreement (even strong disagreement) as allowed by the 1st Amendment with inciting violence.

    Saying something is evil may be uncomfortable to listen to. But that is absolutely not the same as violence.

    We appear to be "advancing" to a world where saying anything not fully supportive of something is considered by some to be a type of violence.

    It is simply not true. And the negative outcome for our liberties will be significant. Without a robust 1st Amendment, our nation is lost.

  • Baccus0902 Leesburg, VA
    Oct. 29, 2018 1:14 p.m.

    @ stretchy -
    "RanchHand, I have never heard President Oaks or Elder Holland say any such thing that you are stating"

    Stretchy, On the last Conference Elder Oak gave a talk entitled "Truth and the Plan".
    In that talk, he talks about Satan and how he distorts the truth and confuses people.
    Some of the confuse people are those who do not conform to his image "of maleness and femaleness", he stated:
    "Our knowledge of God’s revealed plan of salvation requires us to oppose current social and legal pressures to retreat from traditional marriage and to make changes that confuse or alter gender or homogenize the differences between men and women. "

    I think Elder has the right to express his opinion and teach them to his church. By the same principle, RanchHand, has the right to consider that kind of statement as an insidious attack on those who see the definition of gender and families more fluidly than the church.

    Elder Oak is literally saying that those of us who have different types of families, or love people of the same gender are being guided by Satan. That can be considered as psychological violence. What do you think?

  • Ranch Here, UT
    Oct. 29, 2018 11:55 a.m.

    @stretchy;

    Apparently you don't feel that attacking someone's marriage as "invalid" or calls to fight against their having the same legal protections as you doesn't constitution mental and emotional violence; I beg to differ.

    Apparently you haven't read particular talks by BKP (I never mentioned Holland) - he congratulated a missionary for punching his companion - and advocated that "someone had to do it". The truth is out there (X Files).

  • loweye salt lake, UT
    Oct. 28, 2018 6:12 p.m.

    RanchHand,

    Are you one of those anti-Mormons who make things up out of whole cloth? People who are looking for another reason to give the Church a bad name will pick it up and repeat it over and over until everyone of them believes it's true.

    And I heard Pres. Oaks speak in Conference and he said no such thing. I agree with stretchy. I would appreciate referrences so I can see it for myself.

  • Sophie 62 Spring City, UT
    Oct. 28, 2018 3:21 a.m.

    I agree with President Nelson in condemning violence.
    The only thing I disagree with is the idea that we must all agree with each other.
    We can disagree without violence. We can have different opinions without insulting each other.
    We can love each other without having to rubber stamp what the other person thinks.
    But we have to work on it.
    We aren't sheep. I know a few things about sheep. They can fatally stupid. They get themselves into idiotic predicaments. Domesticated sheep. The wild ones are smarter.
    Let's not be sheep.
    But let us disagree without violence and find common ground wherever we can.
    We aren't sheep. We will have our own thoughts, opinions, and different life experience, which will influence how we see things.
    That's okay. God gave us a brain. He wants us to use it. He wants us to think about things and ask questions. He wants us to go.
    deep. We aren't going to necessarily come to the same conclusions, even if we pray about it.
    That's okay too.
    Let's not be hard-headed or hard-hearted with each other.
    We can debate issues without calling each other names.
    It isn't easy to disagree without rancor. But it's a choice we can make.

  • stretchy Salem, UT
    Oct. 27, 2018 4:07 p.m.

    @RanchHand, I have never heard President Oaks or Elder Holland say any such thing that you are stating that they have. Give me sources and give me quotes. Otherwise it is a very disingenuous thing that you say.

  • Pete B Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 27, 2018 2:08 p.m.

    @rhodger: From what I read in the article, it sounds President Nelson did exactly that ("condemn all violence including the gun violence currently ravaging the country"). From the article: "Hatred, violence, murder: All are against the teachings of the Lord." He also called mass shootings "a great offense to God."

  • rhodger Cedar City, UT
    Oct. 27, 2018 11:55 a.m.

    Good to condemn religious violence (we just saw some in Pittsburg) but why not condemn all violence including the gun violence currently ravaging the country? There have been about 280 mass shootings this year alone in the country.

  • 11cAirborne Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 27, 2018 11:33 a.m.

    Our church needs to remember it's roots; to avoid the church of Apostasy!

  • relinda GAINESVILLE, GA
    Oct. 27, 2018 11:23 a.m.

    It is so wonderful how President Nelson has opened new doors in Brazil! I loved his answers in the interview!

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Oct. 27, 2018 10:50 a.m.

    Perhaps he should stop the violence conducted by the LDS church against people who aren't LDS? Dallin Oaks actually called for members to conduct violence (mental, not physical) against a certain segment of the population during his last conference talk. Boyd Packer actually encouraged missionaries to attack certain of their companions.

  • John Jackson Sandy, UT
    Oct. 26, 2018 10:39 p.m.

    Wonderful to read of this interview, and wonderful to hear what President Nelson said.