After University of Utah student's death, parents may wonder if their college students are safe

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  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    Oct. 25, 2018 7:25 a.m.

    So, take careful note of the facts from the studies:
    1. College campuses are actually safer than being off-campus.
    2. Crime of all types, everywhere, has been falling quite dramatically for decades, and continues.

    So the reality is that nowhere in the world, ever, is really a safe space. It never has been, and probably never will be. But modern people have become a lot more fearful. Certainly this is because the media highlights the worst thing that happened anywhere in the world every single day.

  • Ldsrm Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 25, 2018 5:59 a.m.

    I think the biggest thing that should have Ben addressed sooner is that this man was on the sex a fender. And had many things he lied about.
    1.she met him at a bar ware he was a saqurty gard .
    Don’t bars do background checks or did he ly about his name as well

    2. I think we learn that more men need to realize when the relationship is over even if that means the police arresting them to help them get the hint that you need to move on .

    I think a good thing to come out of this world be for everyone to do back ground checks on both who we let be in sacuirty Jobs And also better background checks not to mention why a sexafender is even aloud to be able to get on the Utah Utes campus.

  • estudiante Lehi, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 5:38 p.m.

    Lauren McCluskey's death had nothing to do with "college." And it would have happened if she was wearing ear buds or with a buddy. The real question is why was a 37-year-old man associating with a 21-year-old woman? Reports state he lied about his age. What age did he claim to be? This brings up the larger issue of how disconnected we are as a society, even as we are constantly connected by technology. We used to know everyone in our neighborhood and social circles, now we know few. We met people through mutual friends, in group settings, and relied on "character" and "reputation." Today these concepts are scoffed at. How did they meet? Was is online? Did they have mutual friends? Reports state he borrowed her car. How did that happen? Did he have a car of his own? In the recent past, we've blown up many of our traditions, and women are less safe because of it. You want to go "InDepth?" Start there.

  • JohnInSLC Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 4:24 p.m.

    “I'm referring to guns. BYU has chosen (by being a private school) to not go along with state-mandated allowance of guns on our public university campuses.”

    Frozen:

    Which obviously hasn’t worked to prevent assualts on that campus, which is what Impartial7 was talking about. You aren’t saying that cities, states, campuses, etc., that prohibit concealed carry by law-abiding citizens are statistically safer, are you? If so, you would be wrong.

  • Llew40 Sandy, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 2:36 p.m.

    With more women than men attending and graduating from universities with zero school and campus shootings occuring (so far) by women, parents of college age sons have nothing to worry about.

  • screenname Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 1:25 p.m.

    What a bogus article. Crime is lower than it has been in a very long time, and the likelihood of someone experiencing a violent crime is incredibly small, especially if they stay away from dumb activities.

    Yes, it does still happen, and it always will. This instance was an incredibly sad, heartbreaking incident; there is nothing the woman could have done better than what she did, and no amount of pointing out how uncommon this is will help with her friends' and family's grief.

    However, don't let anomalies like this drive us to make irrational choices. Decisions made with emotion and grief and pain are almost never the right ones, and exploiting those feelings to promote a political goal is not doing anyone favors.

    I know it doesn't sell papers or make money or gain political power to point out the good and stop exaggerating the bad, but it would make society a better place for us to keep our heads about us.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 1:22 p.m.

    @Impartial7
    I'm referring to guns. BYU has chosen (by being a private school) to not go along with state-mandated allowance of guns on our public university campuses.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 12:36 p.m.

    @Frozen Fractals;
    "Some want a college situation to have more dangers introduced to campus. BYU is smart enough to want no part of that and they're safer for it."

    Like what? What more dangers to other colleges want introduced? BTW- have you read about the numerous sexual assaults that BYU police, administrators and the Provo police covered up and got caught? They were making things dangerous for LDS girls to attend their campus. You can read all about it in the D-News archives.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 11:17 a.m.

    Statistically speaking, yes, we'd be rather safe on campus. Are we as safe as we'd like to be? No.

    Some want a college situation to have more dangers introduced to campus. BYU is smart enough to want no part of that and they're safer for it.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 10:39 a.m.

    You can talk all you want. You can have all the campus cops you want. But when campus cops and administrators not only fail to act, but actively cover up assaults on women and Title IX violations, to protect football players, music teachers and "boys just being boys", Utah campuses won't be safe for women.

  • shamrock Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 9:17 a.m.

    With all the school shootings, how can anyone imagine they'd be "safe on campus"? The obvious answer is "Not particularly." You can't count on being safe in a mall, a theater or a dark street, either. Our country is awash in gun killings and so far, we've done nothing effective to change that.

  • Tumbleweed Centerville, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 8:18 a.m.

    If you are 18 years of age and have a clean criminal record, you can now obtain a concealed firearm permit which can be carried anywhere on a university campus except in a room designated for disciplinary hearings.

  • Den Den West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 7:19 a.m.

    Apparently not! I would not leave the safety or protection of my daughters to the universities they attend nor to law enforcement.

    The state of Utah provides that on the campuses of higher education, public, not private, students the lawful possession or carrying of firearms - Utah Code Ann. § 53B-3-103(2).

  • drvinneyboombahtz Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 23, 2018 11:40 p.m.

    i love that universities are offering training. Training from self defense, what to do in case of an attack, how to help as a bystander. This could also include training as to staying in groups, not being out late, how to recognize signs of potential violence, and yes.... even weapons training.

    Being safe starts and ends with the individual, it then goes outward to friends and communities, and finally to police forces. There are simply not enough police to prevent all crime.

    Training ourselves how to be safe is for first and foremost.