High school football: 6A/5A/4A/3A/2A/1A state tournament pairings

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  • Bigtravi Herriman, UT
    Nov. 9, 2018 1:44 p.m.

    When is the Bingham vs. East game? I don't see either of those teams on the schedule.

  • DarthMaul Vernal, UT
    Nov. 6, 2018 5:32 a.m.

    Oly and Canyon should be a great game. May the best team wins but I will have to cheer, "Go Oly."

  • Bigtravi Herriman, UT
    Nov. 5, 2018 1:57 p.m.

    Awesome to see an all Region 4 Semi finals in 6A! I wonder what changes will be made during re-alignment after this season. There really is no debate that region 4 is all around the best region, with the best teams in the majority of all sports, not just football. In my opinion, these games should be held on Friday. Schools that will provide a higher attendance in the stands should be able to play on days where more people can attend.

    AF 35 - Bingham 31

    Honestly this game could go either way. Bingham is always good, they have been playing well over the last few weeks, but AF can explode at any time. I think first team to reach 21 points wins this game. Can you imagine a Lone Peak vs AF championship?

    PG 21 - Lone Peak 35

    PG has been playing some of their best football as of late. Unfortunately for them, so has Lone Peak. LP has seemed to get much better each week for the last month or so and I think will take this one.

    Both games will be quality high school football and very fun to watch. I don't know as much about 5A teams, other than supposedly region 7 was supposed to be really good, and only one team made the semi's.

    Skyridge 42 - Roy 21
    Olympus 21 - Corner Canyon 28

  • razorback South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 2, 2018 10:08 p.m.

    @ MEB "But gaining home field advantage when you have fewer wins? Never heard of it anywhere, at any level. It makes no sense"

    Perhaps you don't look much at other 'anywheres' or other 'levels'. In the NFL, if you don't win your division you might get to playoffs as a wild card team (2 slots per conference). As a wild card team you will play on the road in the first round, even if your record is 11-5 and you play a division champ with an 8-8 record. Win your division in the NFL, and your first game in the playoffs will be at home, period. Do some homework on it.

    Same rules apply in MLB. The wild card team that survives the wild card one game playoff will not have home-field advantage against even in the LCS even if they there get there against a team with a worse record. More homework.

    Which brings me to my final point. If someone wants to be the champion, then win the games that matter, period. Teams that play to win championships get it and they don't make excuses. Only fans whine about who gets disadvantaged. And for all those who rattle on about seedings, there would be just as much noise about seedings because everyone would have a different opinion on seeds.

  • Stop Recruiting South Jordan, UT
    Nov. 1, 2018 11:15 a.m.

    On Friday Bingham is a 43 point favorite vs Kearns. There are 6 players that live in Kearns boundaries that start for Bingham. I'm sure they were not recruited and chose Bingham for the right reasons but is this the intended consequence of open enrollment? Kearns dresses less than 20 kids for their JV football games. Other 6A teams such as Hunter, Granger and Hillcrest don't have enough players to have JV teams in football at all. Is that an acceptable consequence of open enrollment? Doesn't seem right to me.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    Oct. 31, 2018 8:04 a.m.

    Personally I think any kid should be able to transfer at will as long as it is not during the season. I see no reason that kids shouldn't have their own free will without needing to be punished for it.

    But at the same time I think that if there is any recruiting done that it should be punished very harshly, the punishment should be severe. But not the kids being punished instead it should be the coaches being punished that were involved in recruiting them.

    For instance the first offense should be immediate suspension for the head coach for the season. A second offense should result in a ban from coaching for 5 years. Make it so that the punishment to the coaches is so tough that it simply isn't worth doing it. And if some still want to take the risk and recruit well once they are caught a couple of times they're out of coaching and then no longer an issue at all because they're gone.

  • CvFootball Hyrum, UT
    Oct. 30, 2018 4:56 p.m.

    All these comments about transferring I find kind of funny. I agree with everyone that is all for stricter transfer rules because it would make the competition more fair and more fun all across the state. It's just funny to me because there's literally almost no problem with that in Cache Valley, and I think these boys really pride themselves on representing their community and playing with the boys they've played with their whole lives from little league until now! Good luck to SV and MC on Friday!

  • BT1984 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 29, 2018 4:02 p.m.

    Ya Ya Ya, the head coaches have to agree on a time or the UHSAA sets one. Home team coaches would rather play at 7 to increase home field advantage. Visiting coaches would rather play early games to reduce it. Not everyone can get time off for a high school football game.
    Husker2, I think you're completely right. Disallow all transfers and you simply create a situation where people will be more inventive with their cheating. Those few who would benefit from a legitimate transfer for reasons beyond the sport and respect the rules would be the only ones punished by allowing no transfers.

  • Old ball coach Sandy, UT
    Oct. 29, 2018 10:50 a.m.

    YA YA YA-

    "Does anyone know why the games all of a sudden start at 4 pm when the playoffs start?"

    Weather, Money, and Fights!!!

    FIGHT ON!

  • YA YA YA SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 29, 2018 9:55 a.m.

    Does anyone know why the games all of a sudden start at 4 pm when the playoffs start? Makes absolute no sense to me. Let's play each and every game starting at 7 pm throughout the regular season, but not the playoffs.

  • SportsFan7 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 29, 2018 9:21 a.m.

    ConradGurch

    Lone Peak, AF and Bingham all tied for 1st place as Co-region Champions of region 4. When that happens they flip a coin or draw straws to determine play-off seeding. The result was:
    1. Lone Peak
    2. Bingham
    3. AF

    In the first 2 rounds of the play-offs the home team is determined by the region seeding. Both Bingham and AF are playing teams in the quarterfinals that had a higher region seed.

  • ConradGurch Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 29, 2018 9:00 a.m.

    Will someone please explain why AF & Bingham are playing on the road?

  • Husker2 Aurora, MN
    Oct. 28, 2018 12:25 p.m.

    A “play where you live” rule is easy to circumvent. Players will use fake addresses, move in with relatives, move in with teammates, or even move in with coaches to beat the system.

  • adwight AMERICAN FORK, UT
    Oct. 27, 2018 5:50 p.m.

    Absolutely. Either LP or PG could win the whole thing. Any of those teams from Region 4 can win it. Don’t think that Lone Peaks win over Bingham was a fluke in any way shape or form, and PG had a guy wide open and missed the pass to beat Bingham as well. All 4 region 4 teams are very talented and very well coached.

  • BT1984 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 27, 2018 10:22 a.m.

    CH Cougar, I'd have to agree with Stang10. Pleasant Grove lost to Bingham by just three points and Lone Peak beat the Miners by the same margin so I wouldn't write off the lower bracket just yet.
    Although I was hoping for some of the first round games to go differently the only real surprise for me was Pleasant Grove beating East but I don't mind being wrong - much.
    I think there's a good chance of the semis being all Region 4 teams but the only team I'm really hoping will win is Bingham. After thinking about it I'd like to see Weber beat AF if only so Bingham will play someone new in the semi should they win at Kearns.

  • Stang10 Highland, UT
    Oct. 26, 2018 8:09 p.m.

    CH Cougar, yes they can! What a great game for PG beating East. Somewhat of an upset but it doesn’t surprise me, PG has a great team.

  • CH Cougar PLEASANT GROVE, UT
    Oct. 26, 2018 3:57 p.m.

    Question - can teams in Lower Bracket 6A win the 6A title?

  • Holy-Moly SLC, UT
    Oct. 25, 2018 10:01 a.m.

    Bt1984- it is also not elitist, you sell your home for $300,000 you buy a home for $300,000.

  • Holy-Moly SLC, UT
    Oct. 25, 2018 9:52 a.m.

    BT1984, That is the whole point. Make it harder to transfer. Lets say out of 100 transfers, probably only 5-10 actually move to live inside the boundaries.

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 7:54 p.m.

    The solution to classification is easy. It's similar to what was used in American Legion baseball.

    You simply count for the purposes of classification the boundaries of all schools any particular program gets its players.

    For example, if Orem has players that actually live in Orem, Provo, Timpview, Timpanogos, Mountain View, and Pleasant Grove boundaries, you count the enrollment of those schools. I'm sure plenty of schools would have multiple boundary players. But after the counting then reclassify. Then if schools are actually playing with only their boundary kids, they will compete against other schools that are doing the same. Then if schools like Orem, Timpview, Bingham, East etc. have players from all over the place, they play each other. It's really that simple. No more worrying about transfers, paperwork etc. If a player comes from a different boundary, you count that school's enrollment too. Private and charter schools have their own classifications or count whatever boundaries they get students from like anyone else.

  • BT1984 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 7:29 p.m.

    Holy-Moly, your proposed solution sounds elitist to me. Only those who can afford to move can transfer, those who can't are stuck.
    I think too many transfers are allowed but I believe a big part of the blame belongs on the Utah State School Board.
    While researching this issue I found a Deseret News article dated December 10th 2016 titled State School Board approves new athlete transfer rule. Another article dated September 27th 2017 is titled Utah high school sports Association sues Over Law it says usurps its Authority. That new law loosened requirements for student-athlete transfers. I have not been able to find information on the outcome of the uhsaa lawsuit but demanding the uhsaa allow no transfers is a futile undertaking. Forces outside the uhsaa are working to make transfers easier rather than more difficult.

  • Holy-Moly SLC, UT
    Oct. 24, 2018 12:37 p.m.

    Someone brought up a great point...What has more of an impact, 500 more students, or 3-4 great players transferring to a school. In my humble opinion, those transfers can help any school. Just look at Orem this year, or any school that has won a championship, and you will find out that a couple transfers were on that team.

    UHSAA - No transfers, play where you live PERIOD. If a family wants to move to the boundaries so Jonny can play sports, then fine. Other than that, NO SOUP FOR YOU.

  • DeepBreath West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 23, 2018 4:31 p.m.

    Recruiting/Transfer Players:
    1) If you leave your boundary for another school as an incoming 9th grader=No sports for you. No practice. Nothing! WHY? Because it will give your home school a chance to have you and also sale their program to you. Kids would probably love staying and playing 9th grade with their lifelong pals. It's parents that influence kids to leave in many situations. They bash the coach or listen to the typical disgruntled parent that says the local coach is political. All while not even given the coach or school programs a chance.
    Well, if you're so bent on leaving then I hope no 9th grade athletics, any form, is worth it to you and your parents.
    2) If the 9th grader gave it a shot and still wants to transfer, fine. One free transfer, no questions asked. At least he/she gave the school and coach a chance and no athletic set-back had really taken place. I'll bet you find most kids like it and want to stay. Much to the disliking of the helicopter parent.
    Boundary coaches would be happy, more kids would be happy. Parents may not be, but it not about them!!!
    This is a start.

  • UtahPrepFan Alpine, UT
    Oct. 22, 2018 2:48 p.m.

    2A First Round Predictions

    Enterprise (5-5) at South Summit (8-1)

    Atkinson gets another 5 passing TD game and South Summit rests their starters for most of the second half.

    SS 42 - Enterprise 6

    Millard (8-2) at San Juan (6-3)

    San Juan pulls the kind of sort of upset and takes out Millard.

    SJ 24 - Millard 17

    South Sevier (5-5) at Grand (6-3)

    Grand takes care of business with huge rushing numbers and wins easily.

    Grand 31 - SS 7

    Beaver (7-3) at Delta (4-5)

    An absolute slug-fest that comes down to the wire but Beaver pulls off the nail-biter.

    Beaver 14 - Delta 10

  • UtahBruin Eagle Mountain, UT
    Oct. 22, 2018 12:36 p.m.

    @Bigtravi

    I agree with them all except I don't think Hunter beats Davis. I think Davis gets it done.

  • Bigtravi Herriman, UT
    Oct. 22, 2018 11:09 a.m.

    Predictions!

    AF 45 - Riverton 21
    Granger 14 - Weber 28
    Northridge 14 - Kearns 31
    Herriman 7 - Bingham - 38
    Davis 21 - Hunter 28
    West Jordan 14 - Lone Peak 31
    Pleasant Grove 28 - East 21
    Cyprus 14 - Fremont 28

  • Mr. Boris Layton, UT
    Oct. 21, 2018 1:36 p.m.

    bak 123,

    But the biggest 2A school, ALA, is consistently at the bottom so it's not all about enrollment. Those schools also have long traditions of winning regardless of their classification. Except for Grand who usually underachieves for their size.

    Of course numbers matter in football and that's my point. Those schools you mention are much closer to the enrollment numbers of the 2A schools than the 3A schools. Especially when you look at the ratios. You prove my point because if you have a sport like football that has a large number of students participating then it makes more sense for them to play in a smaller classification than a larger one.

  • BT1984 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 21, 2018 1:04 p.m.

    Bigtravi, I'm sure he'd have complained about the Region 4 champ having an easy draw no matter who it was.
    WTDM5, does anyone who accuses schools of recruiting ever need evidence to back their claims?
    Wasn't Bingham investigated a few years ago for supposedly recruiting players from Kearns and proven to have worked within the rules?
    Facts? Facts?! They don't need no stinking facts!

  • bak123 ,
    Oct. 20, 2018 9:53 p.m.

    Mr. Boris,
    So is it just a coincidence that South Summit, Grand, Delta and San Juan are the top two teams in the 2 divisions in 2A? Numbers probably matter more in football than other sports. I just think that if you're 2A in everything else, you should play 2A football. If you're 3A, play 3A football. If there are only six 1A schools playing football, at least it is a true 1A title.

  • WTDM5 utah county, UT
    Oct. 20, 2018 3:00 p.m.

    @stop recruiting

    Do you have facts or are you just assuming? If you don’t have actual facts of key players transferring illegally or actual recruiting than that’s a pretty ignorant thing to say.

  • Mr. Boris Layton, UT
    Oct. 20, 2018 2:54 p.m.

    bak 123,

    South Summit, Grand, Delta, and San Juan are 3A schools in every sport but football. They are 2A in football because so many of the small private schools don't play football. They are not 3A schools when you are talking about football. Football has it's own classification system separate from the other sports. The UHSAA didn't drop anyone to 2A for football. They work from small to large in football to fill the classifications because not every school plays football.

    I know 2A likes to cry about South Summit because of their dominance but South Summit is way closer in enrollment numbers to the 2A than the 3A schools. South Summit has roughly only 100 more students than Millard, North Summit, Beaver, etc. but 300 less than Grantsville, Morgan, Juab.

  • Stop Recruiting South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 20, 2018 10:20 a.m.

    It would be nice if the state looked into where most of EA$T and Bingh*m's players who actually play played in little league where you have to play in your boundaries.

  • Formerute24 St George, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 9:40 p.m.

    Kimmyp

    What you don’t know is that the first round games in football next week, the gate goes to the home school not the UHSAA. Ticket sales do not cover the expenses of state tournaments. Three state championship games for $10 is one of the best bargains in any state. You can go online and review the entire budget for the UHSAA and see they don’t make huge amounts of money. Primary sources of revenue are corporate sponsors and ticket sales. School dues make up less than 5% of the budget. The UHSAA also covers 100% of a catastrophic insurance policy for players and support groups state wide. Regardless of what you may think the UHSAA does an amazing job with the budget they have.

  • JrewJ Provo, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 9:32 p.m.

    With the lack of enforcement of transfer rules and recruiting there really is no need for the different classifications. If the UHSAA was truly trying to make it “fair”for the kids they would enforce the tranfer rules in place. High schools sports in Utah are suffering and lacking in credibility due to the lack of enforcement of ALL the rules set up by the UHSAA. The lack of enforcement encourages blatant abuse of rules and policies and in some cases puts student athletes health and safety in danger. For example, allowing FB players to play 8 quarters of football in a week (JV and Varsity games.)

  • Bigtravi Herriman, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 8:02 p.m.

    @stocksontherocks

    You do know the bracket and region vs region matchups have been set for the last year right? They didn’t choose which school would be on which side of the bracket.

  • StocksOnTheRocks Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 4:13 p.m.

    bingham, "WEBER", and american fork all in the same 1/2 bracket? lets pave a road for Lone Peak..

  • CvFootball Hyrum, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 3:59 p.m.

    @southpride

    I think this is funny because we are both super biased to our respective regions haha, but I think our top 3 teams from region 12 will advance to the second round and Green Canyon will lose a close one to Pine View. Sky View will not be tested until the semis against Dixie and even then I think they will pull out a close one to them. I think the same with MC and Logan against their first round teams, they will be close wins. But to be fair, I do think they will all eventually lose to Orem if any of them end up playing. MC would lose to them in the second round, Logan would lose to them in the semis, and SV would lose what I think would be a close one in the finals. Can't beat money and recruiting at the high school level when our kids from CV, and I assume down south in St. George, are actually playing within their own school boundaries, yet we seem to always be the tougher teams, and actually beat a lot of the Salt Lake/ Utah Valley teams regularly as well. But good luck to all 4A schools in the playoffs, especially all the valley schools!

  • KimmyP Grantsville, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 4:00 p.m.

    Former Ute,

    So, since the UHSAA is solely concerned about the kids, they won't keep the money all of the extra games generate, right? SMH

  • BT1984 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 3:44 p.m.

    UtahBruin, you're probably right. Schools from lower classifications have claimed to be as good as or better than those in higher classifications for years. I'd have to do some research to be sure but it seems that when given the chance, the bigger schools generally win.
    East would most likely have taken state last year had they not moved up to 6A in football but I can't find fault with wanting to play Bingham. To be considered the best they have to play the best competition. 7 state championships since 2006 indicates Bingham has routinely been the best in Utah's largest classification.

  • UtahBruin Eagle Mountain, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 1:46 p.m.

    And if you want to combine some classifications like one is saying.

    Seeding Out the Upper Classifications as stated. I made a few adjustments to the state rankings.

    #1 Bingham 6A
    #2 American Fork 6A
    #3 Orem 4A
    #4 Corner Canyon 5A
    #5 East 6A
    #6 Skyridge 5A
    #7 Lone Peak 6A
    #8 Pleasant Grove
    #9 Olympus 5A at Pleasant Grove 6A - PG Wins
    #10 Sky View 4A at Lone Peak 6A - LP Wins
    #11 Highland 5A at Skyridge 5A - SR Wins
    #12 Jordan 5A at East 6A - East Wins
    #13 Fremont 6A at Corner Canyon 5A - CC Wins
    #14 Dixie 4A at Orem 4A - Orem Wins
    #15 Roy 5A at American Fork 6A - AF Wins
    #16 Timpview 5A at Bingham 6A - Bingham Wins

    This is where it doesn't work. All the higher seeds win. I don't even see opportunities for upsets. To be upset in the first three weeks of the season is one thing. The end of the season is different. Ask Jordan. Springville would not come close to touching Jordan now.

    Teams that would miss the playoffs. Riverton, Viewmont, Logan, Desert Hills, Spanish Fork, Herriman, Davis, Northridge, Cyprus, Kearns, West Jordan, Lehi, Alta, Wasatch, Pine View, etc.

    And that is why there are multiple classifications. Smaller schools can't compete with the big boys.

  • BT1984 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 1:26 p.m.

    *While East is in the lower bracket.
    That's what I get for using talk to text and not proofreading.

  • BT1984 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 1:10 p.m.

    Silverwolves, I said Bingham has been the only Utah team to beat East in the last few years.
    I also said East is really good at what they do, which is supported by the fact that only Bingham has been able to beat them in recent years.
    Looking at the playoff brackets East doesn't have to worry about playing American Fork or Bingham before the championship game. Those teams are in the upper bracket well East is in the lower.
    From my point of view the team in the lower bracket with the best chance of beating East is Lone Peak.

  • bak123 ,
    Oct. 19, 2018 12:45 p.m.

    Eagle-provo ut, south summit IS a 3A school! They just happen to be one of the 3A schools that the uhsaa dropped into 2A for football. They should be competing against Morgan.

    Formerute 24, I agree that numbers of students matter but is it fair to drop 3A schools into 2A football and drop 2A schools into 1A football just so there are more teams? There's a good chance that a2A school will win 1A and a 3A school will win 2A. Is that fair to the schools that really fall into those classifications ?

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 11:17 a.m.

    Even if you look at football, there isn't much difference between the best and worst in 5A vs. 6A for example. Corner Canyon is just as good as Bingham. Heck, Timpview BEAT American Fork and is on the road for its pla yoff game. Even at the bottom level, Cottonwood (5A) beat 6A Hillcrest.

    Heck, you can even stretch it down even further. What is the real difference between Orem and Corner Canyon/Bingham, not much. Cyprus (6A) beat Spanish Fork (4A) by single point after being down 28 points, both finished second in their league. Pine View (4A) gave Highland (5A) one of its losses. Highland beat Lone Peak who beat Bingham and Lone Peak is the #1 seed out of the toughest league in 6A.

    There isn't much of a difference between 4A and even 6A in its worst teams. Not much separating Ben Lomond from Copper Hills, maybe a touchdown.

    Bottom line, there are too many classifications.

    And even at the lower end, the top 2A and 3A teams (South Summit and Morgan) played and South Summit actually beat Morgan.

    Again, too many classifications, three would be plenty and it could make state an actual accomplishment.

  • Silverwolves nation Ogden, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 11:16 a.m.

    BT1984

    What are you talking about Bingham destroyed East this year! If East plays against AF or Bingham before the semi they will lose

  • UtahBruin Eagle Mountain, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 9:48 a.m.

    Seedings Continued

    I admit, I am not as familiar with these schools.

    3A
    #1 Morgan
    #2 Granstville
    #3 Summit Academy
    #4 Juan Diego
    #5 Juab at Juan Diego
    #6 Union at Summit Academy
    #7 North Sanpete at Grantsville
    #8 Richfield at Morgan

    2A
    #1 South Summit
    #2 Millard
    #3 Grand
    #4 Beaver
    #5 San Juan at Beaver
    #6 Delta at Grand
    #7 Enterprise at Millard
    #8 South Sevier at South Summit

    1A
    #1Duchesne
    #2 Milford
    #3 Parowan
    #4 Altamont
    #5 Layton Christian at Altamont
    #6 Rich at Parowan
    #7 Monticello at Milford
    #8 Kanab at Duchesne

  • UtahBruin Eagle Mountain, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 9:30 a.m.

    UHSAA should Seed the playoffs. I am definitely not saying I am right in my seeding's but I think I am close.

    6A
    #1 Bingham, They ended up the 2 seed due to coin flip, but I just don't think if they played LPeak 10 times that LP would win even 2 or even 3 games.
    #2 A. Fork
    #3 East
    #4 L. Peak
    #5 Weber
    #6 Fremont
    #7 P. Grove - Their 4 losses are to Bingham, AFork, LPeak, and CCanyon
    #8 Riverton
    #9 W. Jordan at Riverton
    #10 Davis at P. Grove
    #11 W. Jordan at Fremont
    #12 Kearns at Weber
    #13 Cyrpus at L. Peak
    #14 N.Ridge at East
    #15 Hunter at A. Fork
    #16 Granger at Bingham

    5A
    #1 Corner Canyon
    #2 Skyridge
    #3 Olympus
    #4 Highland
    #5 Jordan
    #6 Timpview
    #7 Alta
    #8 Roy
    #9 Lehi at Roy
    #10 Viewmont at Alta
    #11 Box Elder at Timpview
    #12 Springville at Jordan
    #13 Provo at Highland
    #14 Wasatch/Maple Mountain at Olympus
    #15 Murray/Skyline/West at Skyridge
    #16 Farmington at C. Canyon

    4A
    #1 Orem
    #2 Sky View
    #3 Dixie
    #4 Desert Hills
    #5 Pine View
    #6 Logan
    #7 Spanish Fork
    #8 Mountain Crest
    #9 Snow Canyon at M. Crest
    #10 Park City at S. Fork
    #11 Stansbury at Logan
    #12 Snow Canyon at P. View
    #13 Green Canyon at D. Hills
    #14 Ogden at Dixie
    #15 Mountain View at S. View
    #16 Tooele at Orem

  • Formerute24 St George, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 9:08 a.m.

    Having been involved with the UHSAA for the past 20 years let me offer some perspective on the football brackets. Why do we have six classifications with so few schools? It has become paramount with board members, superintendents and principals that school size matters when it comes to competition. It is difficult to to decide what is the appropriate "gap" between the smallest and largest school in a classification. (200, 400, 600?) It was finally settled with a ratio and tried to keep it below 2:1. I think most people would agree that a school with 1000 students playing a school with 2500 students wouldn't be a fair match in any sport especially football. While it may look bad on paper that a team with no wins get to play a game at state because there are only 12 schools in that classification, that is the sacrifice we make when we try to group schools by size. If you have a better way, email the UHSAA and let them know. I have said for years that if the UHSAA is guilty of anything, it's that they are trying to make it "fair" for all kids.....period.

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 9:02 a.m.

    Coin flip...

    It would save $ to forget competing.

    Who needs compete when you can gamble on a coin flip?

    What lesson(s) are we teaching to the rising generation?

  • UtahBruin Eagle Mountain, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 8:59 a.m.

    @backbonedr

    As for teams with better records. The UHSAA needs to get away from the simple this region plays this region. Award Region Champions, and that is it. After that, a seeding needs to take place. Bingham and American Fork, despite Bingham losing to Lone Peak, are the best two teams in 6A and yet they will meet in the Semi-Finals. There is not one other team in the 6A Upper Bracket that stands a chance. And that goes for 8-1 Weber as well. The bottom bracket will come down to Lone Peak and the winner of the PG vs East game.

    @MEB

    If Viewmont didn't want to play on the road, then they should have beat Box Elder. Had they done that instead of losing by 2, they would have a home game. And you really can't look at overall record. You need to look at 4A Records, however still in Viewmonts favor. But it is the way the UHSAA does it and I agree it is lame. Seed the teams for the playoffs.

    @Southpride

    I agree with everything you said except, Sky View is going to Roll Snow Canyon.

  • MEB SLC, Utah
    Oct. 19, 2018 8:32 a.m.

    Backbonedr - thanks for your comments. There will always be some regions who are better than others (or at least they think they are). That exists in every sport at every level. But please point me to any other sport at any level where the team with the lower winning percentage gets home field advantage in the playoffs. Worst case, they play at a neutral location. But gaining home field advantage when you have fewer wins? Never heard of it anywhere, at any level. It makes no sense.

  • Backbonedr Lehi, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 8:00 a.m.

    MEB, I need to respectfully disagree with you about teams with better records having to play away games against teams with worse records. We all know that some regions are much tougher than other regions. So you might have one or two teams dominating their region, then have 4 or 5 good teams slugging it out for seeding in their region. Its not a perfect system but to me it seems to be the best we can do.

  • Stor nese Cedar City, UT
    Oct. 19, 2018 6:38 a.m.

    Anyone know when West, Murray, and Skyline play for that final playoff spot?

  • MEB SLC, Utah
    Oct. 18, 2018 9:54 a.m.

    I see all of the comments here about winless teams in the playoffs. Yeah, that makes no sense. Neither do a lot of the pairings. Like Viewmont, who tied for first in their Region, having to go on the road to play a 4-5 Provo team? Who dreamed up these bracket rules? Team with better regular season record should always get home field advantage. That's what you play the regular season for.

  • Mr. Boris Layton, UT
    Oct. 17, 2018 1:32 p.m.

    City people,

    The 1A, 2A and 3A seasons are set up differently than the big schools. The championships are a week earlier than 4A, 5A, and 6A. The small schools only have 9 regular season games instead of 10. Technically all the teams make the playoffs but none of the lower seeds ever go anywhere in the tournament. It's very rare that a 5 or 6 seed ever advances. Basically every small school makes the playoffs so that they all get to play 10 games since the season is one week shorter than the big schools. It's more just an extension of the regular season.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Oct. 17, 2018 9:37 a.m.

    How does a team which won zero games all year go to a state tournament? For that matter, even one with a losing record? What a joke of the process. However, if any of these teams make it to the championship game, I'll eat my words. Now that would be a story....

  • BT1984 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 16, 2018 8:17 p.m.

    My field, Syracuse finished fifth in Region 1 and didn't make the playoffs.
    Silverwolves, you should ask someone from Jordan, Alta, or any other team from Region 3 how East wins running the ball so much. East hasn't lost to a Utah school other than Bingham since a bad 2014 season. They're good at what they do.

  • My field my NAME Layton, UT
    Oct. 16, 2018 1:17 p.m.

    Who does Syracuse play in the first round I don't see them? What happened?

  • southpride56 Saint George, UT
    Oct. 16, 2018 11:23 a.m.

    Snow Canyon will give SkyView a run for their money.

    PV will beat Logan.

    DH will beat MC.

    Dixie will beat Green Canyon.

  • KimmyP Grantsville, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 8:39 p.m.

    The UHSAA has made a mockery of even playing a region schedule. Teams without a single win make the playoffs in the ever wider money grab by the activities association.
    What a joke. Why not just make a trophy for every team and charge them for it. Win, Win.

  • Jfan Sandy, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 5:04 p.m.

    So.... how does Region 7 play out if seeding is still up for grabs? Corner Canyon vs Jordan are obviously battling for the Region title but the loser of the game only falls to the second seed correct? Timpview cannot get higher than 3rd?
    Someone help me out haha

  • Rusty Shackleford Layton, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 9:00 a.m.

    Thanks adwight

  • Silverwolves nation Ogden, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 2:39 a.m.

    East could lose first or second round. They only run the ball. EAST QB only has 70 yards passing... how do you win games with just run the ball?

  • markymark HERRIMAN, UT
    Oct. 14, 2018 7:24 p.m.

    They all 3 flipped a coin and the odd coin got 1st place. Then AF and Bingham flipped for 2 nd and 3rd. Head to head had nothing to do with it.

  • srsmith , 00
    Oct. 14, 2018 6:43 p.m.

    There are too many classifications in Utah. Teams with loosing records shouldn’t be in the playoffs.

  • adwight AMERICAN FORK, UT
    Oct. 14, 2018 4:10 p.m.

    My nephew plays for AF. They did the toss on Saturday.

  • Field named after ME Layton, UT
    Oct. 14, 2018 12:36 p.m.

    6A upper bracket is way tougher than lower. Sorry Weber you get AF in round two Fremont vs East no northern teams at RES again this year in 6A.

  • Rusty Shackleford Layton, UT
    Oct. 13, 2018 11:58 p.m.

    Adwight,

    The article says that the coin flip will be on Monday? Of course the article also said that the #3 and #4 seeds from region 3 were to be decided on games being played this week (as I commented on earlier and has since been updated).

  • Sports Nutz Smithfield, UT
    Oct. 13, 2018 5:48 p.m.

    Mountain Crest and Logan are in the same Region and will not play each other in the first round.

  • adwight AMERICAN FORK, UT
    Oct. 13, 2018 5:13 p.m.

    Lone Peak won the flip and will get the 1 seed. AF by virtue of tiebreaker will get the 3 seed and Bingham the 2. AF was 18 seconds away from an outright region title and instead ends up on the road first round. Crazy stuff.

  • Rusty Shackleford Layton, UT
    Oct. 13, 2018 3:59 p.m.

    There are no games in Region 3 that impact the 3rd and 4th seeds. The only game that is left is East/Copper Hills. East has the #1 seed wrapped up and Copper Hills is eliminated (even if CH wins, East would tie with Riverton at 4-1 but they hold the tiebreaker over Riverton by winning head-to-head; CH would move into a tie with Taylorsville at 1-4, but both finish behind West Jordan at 2-3 and Herriman at 3-2). Herriman finished 3rd and West Jordan finished 4th.

    Herriman does not play this week. Taylorsville plays a non-region game against Westlake, Riverton plays a non-region game against Kearns, and West Jordan plays a non-region game against Pleasant Grove.

  • StocksOnTheRocks Kaysville, UT
    Oct. 13, 2018 11:45 a.m.

    2 Teams at 0-9 Make it into the tournament -