Guest opinion: Utah Medical Cannabis Act is safer, more responsible than Prop 2

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  • Flipphone Sandy, UT
    Oct. 17, 2018 9:32 a.m.

    This is insane. Marjajuna is a Safe, Non Addictive plant, that has tremendous medical benefits.

    As of today Marjajuna is legal in Canada.

  • EscherEnigma Ridgecrest, CA
    Oct. 16, 2018 9:13 a.m.

    "Ask people who lived there before 2016."
    Ask us what?

    If it's a big deal? It isn't. No one is out there pushing marijuana on every Tom, Dick and Harry. People who want it can get it sure, and now the cops won't hustle you into prison because you dared haev an illegal herb on you. So overall no big thing, but minor improvements in liberty and criminal justice.

    The bigger problem with public safety and kids is still alcohol and cigarettes.

  • Ranch Here, UT
    Oct. 16, 2018 7:59 a.m.

    @2 bits;

    Anyone who wants it can already get it. So, your worries are not really legitimate; if it wasn't already readily available, you might have a point; but it is so you don't.

  • FargoUT Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 5:40 p.m.

    I'm personally not a user of marijuana. However, I'm of the opinion marijuana should be legalized entirely with few restrictions for adults. Prop 2 is a step in the right direction, so it will get my vote, even though I have reservations about its implementation.

    The scare tactics of marijuana are exaggerated, and prescription pain meds are far more harmful and addictive than marijuana is. I would argue the pharmaceutical companies supplying opioids are more dangerous to our populace. "Reefer madness" is not a real thing.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, WA
    Oct. 15, 2018 5:27 p.m.

    Guest opinion: Utah Medical Cannabis Act is safer, more responsible than Prop 2

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    Sorry,
    The legislature has kicked this can down the street for decades.
    Year and years of broken promises to address this in the NEXT session.

    Too little, Too Late.

    Prop 2 - YES

    Then --
    If you want it changed,
    you can change it.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 3:00 p.m.

    nonceleb,
    Never said anything's equivalent.

    The point I made was it doesn't matter if you get recreational-use or not. Once you get medical-use anybody who wants to can use it. Getting a medical use card is literally as easy as asking for one. Anybody who wants one can get one.

    Medical-cannabis was made legal in CA in 1996. Recreational-use was passed later (2016). Before Recreational-use was legal (2016) you just needed a medical use card to get it. And anybody (and I mean anybody, with no illness) could get a medical-use card. Everybody in CA knew how easy it was to get a medical-use card.

    So once you have Medical-use passed... it doesn't really matter if you pass recreational-use or not. Because ANYBODY who wants to use can get a card.

    That's the point.

    I'm not saying we will pass recreational-use down the road (but we probably will). I'm saying it doesn't matter if we pass recreational-use (once medical-use is legal). Because literally anybody who wants a medical-use card can get one.

    At least that's what happened in CA. Ask people who lived there before 2016.

    What happened in CA is a "Fact" at this point. What happens in UT is TBD. But not CA.

  • nonceleb Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 1:40 p.m.

    @2bits
    This is about medical marijuana in Utah, not recreational marijuana. They are very different in requirements, production, amounts, and distribution. Prop 2 requires a recommendation from a physician who can write prescriptions for medical marijuana. So does California. The California law on medical marijuana requires a "written or oral recommendation" from a physician that the patient would benefit from the medical use of marijuana. You might argue that it is now moot with recreational marijuana being legal in California, but requirements are different for the two. You should not suggest Utah would be like California, when only medical marijuana is the question in Utah. I would suggest you get the facts before you post a false equivalency.

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 12:30 p.m.

    nonceleb -12:10
    RE: "It would require a doctor's recommendation to get a medical marijuana card"...
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    Ask anybody who lived in California when they passed their "Medical Marijuana" bill (funded by the same group). Ask what happened there.

    People opened offices where you could go to get your medical marijuana card. They were handing them out like condoms. You didn't even need to see the doctor. Just make an appointment, tell them why you want the card (any bogus reason would do) and pick up your card. Everybody who wanted a medical marijuana card in CA had one. Whether they were sick or not.

    That's why it was no-big-deal to pass recreational marijuana later. Everybody was already using it recreationalally (using their bogus medical card) and everybody in CA knew it. So they just did away with the need to get the card and make these doctors giving them away rich.

    Same thing will happen here. Less people may ask for cards in Utah, but anybody who wants one will be able to get one. No doubt about that.

    And anybody who Assumes experimenting with Marijuana to fix your mood doesn't lead eventually to experimenting with other/stronger drugs....

  • 2 bits Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 12:01 p.m.

    To the National Campaign people pushing this agenda it's not about your grandma who needs cannabis oil extracts for an illness. They don't even know your grandma.

    For them (the major funding for this campaign) it's about something else. It's not about sick people, it's about being able to legally ship their product through Utah. And sell it in Utah.

    Just last week there was a shipment of weed (and other drugs) confiscated in Utah. I-70 us a major drug route to the East. So it I-80. Many traffic stops on these highways eventually turn into drug busts.

    The people running this campaign don't care about sick people in Utah. They want their product to be able to flow legally through Utah.

    These national campaign companies don't even know if there's anybody sick in Utah who needs Cannabis.

    Google "The money behind Utah's medical marijuana initiative"...
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    "A Deseret News review of the ballot initiative's campaign finance records and interviews with donors found that influential national lobbying group "Marijuana Policy Project" has had a major financial hand in supporting the signature push"...

    What does this national group know about sick Utahns?

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 11:47 a.m.

    If you truly think the legislature is going to pass that anyway then you shouldn't care if we want to vote yes.

  • Grandfather Ogden, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 10:20 a.m.

    Utah's legislature and fellow Goodfellas are working to find a way to control a Marijuana production and sales chain that is designed to benefit their select, insiders, nominees, and cutouts. They will be favored sons and daughters ... Goodfellas ... controlling the "Pot" processes throughout.

    While working a securities market manipulation criminal case in Salt Lake when Utah was characterized as the Stock Fraud capital of the Nation, a wise old broker once told me, "Sonny ... don't bet on the horse. Bet on the rider." Meaning of course that I should know who the sleazy traders were and then I could find and follow the fraud. Well ... I follow many of the riders in Utah and I'm betting they are setting up a Billion Dollar Pot scam. See Forbes "Marijuana's $40 Billion Dollar Green Rush"

    Utah's Goodfellas will control the following processes through insiders, nominees, and cutouts:

    Medical Cannabis Cultivation Facilities
    Medical Cannabis Processing Facilities
    Independent Cannabis Testing Laboratories
    Medical Cannabis Pharmacies
    State Central Fill Medical Cannabis Pharmacy
    Qualified Medical Providers
    Medical Cannabis Inventory Control System
    Transportation of Medical Cannabis

  • stevo123 Driggs, ID
    Oct. 15, 2018 9:30 a.m.

    Prop. 2 is what happens when the Legislature does nothing. Vote yes on 2 and get the ball rolling.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 9:22 a.m.

    I don't really see a compelling reason against Prop. 2. If the powers that be drag their feet long enough and keep ignoring the will of the people, this is what happens. All I've heard is moralizing and pontification against Prop. 2. I have not seen legitimate research against it. There have been laboratories in other states and they are doing fine. I'm sorry, but maybe it is time to back off state control of our lives.

  • Thomas Jefferson Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 8:57 a.m.

    "Rather than rushing to vote for Proposition 2, which puts patients, youths and children at risk"

    At risk of what? They never say because this is just simplistic pearl-clutching.

    "However, the marijuana proposed in Utah’s Proposition 2 is not “medical.” Doctors would not prescribe it. Pharmacies would not dispense it. Purchases would occur at dispensaries, where budtenders (with or without any medical training) would recommend marijuana-infused cookies, candy, sodas or other marijuana products, including free samples."

    So what? What business is it of yours how other people take it?

    "Proposition 2 puts patients — and all Utahns — at risk for more problems. In short, today’s relief may inadvertently cause tomorrow’s suffering."

    Vague gloom and doom.

    "After Colorado commercialized medical marijuana in 2009 ... emergency room visits increased by 57 percent and marijuana-related hospitalizations increased by 66 percent."

    Intentionally ignoring facts is lying. Reporting changed, nothing else. Even when recreational passed...except the millions of tax dollars taken in.

    "Laura Bunker and Rose Marie Murray are the co-founders of Family Policy Resource."

    Now I see.

    Vote yes!

  • countryvoice3 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 8:03 a.m.

    "Rather than rushing to vote for Proposition 2, which puts patients, youths and children at risk..."

    No it doesn't.

    What is at risk is nothing happening if prop 2 doesn't pass.

    If it passes we are guaranteed the legislature will act. Vote yes.

  • Utefan60 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 15, 2018 6:37 a.m.

    Never trust the GOP led legislature, or Governor to follow up with any "compromise". Saw that with Count My Vote. People are not as dumb as the opponents of this bill want people to believe. Fool me once?

    Pass Prop 2. Vote Yes! Then let's see what the do nothing legislature then has to do.

    Compromise is a dirty word for the GOP. They use it, and then back track like they did with Count My Vote. Let's not be fooled yet again by their antics.

  • Jsnow111 Irschenberg, BY
    Oct. 14, 2018 10:22 p.m.

    "Caring Utah voters need only be “patient” just a little longer."

    We've been patient long enough..

    Vote Yes on prop 2

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Oct. 14, 2018 10:15 p.m.

    Stop the lying and delaying!

    Children and innocent people are suffering!

    Vote Yes on Prop 2!

    The time for debate is over. The time for action is now! Ease the pain of these thousands of innocent people!

    Don't let best be the enemy of better. Pass Prop 2, then work out the nuanced details later.

    Act NOW to end suffering!

  • Twin Lights Louisville, KY
    Oct. 14, 2018 7:16 p.m.

    Without strict controls, other states have gotten defacto legalization because the prescription can be had by nearly anyone complaining of anything.

  • Don Bixby Centerville, UT
    Oct. 14, 2018 6:07 p.m.

    Ms. Bunker and Murray, let's discuss the merits of the two options, but let's not make things up or lie. You say prop 2 is not medical, but a card can only be issued by a medical provider with rights to write prescriptions. They can't advertise that they do so and are limited how many patients they can give a card. The products sold have to be labeled with the strength of medicine in it. There are restrictions against mimicking candy products for edibles. There are limits that would preclude growing your own plants in residential areas, near community locations, and within 100 miles of a dispensary. So few people will qualify to grow their own that it isn't worth talking about. Who cares if someone gives out a free sample? It would still have to be only to someone with a card. And you've never been given a free sample of a prescription in a doctor's office? Ask 100 people, and 95 of them will tell you they or someone they know have gotten a prescription sample for free. The lies in this letter astound me.

  • nonceleb Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 14, 2018 12:10 p.m.

    Don't fall for this bogus draft bill. And Prop 2 not requiring a prescription is misleading, as it would require a doctor's recommendation to get a medical marijuana card. As for this draft, I do not trust the legislature. The only reason it has been put forward is fear over Prop 2 passing. In the past the legislature punted on medical marijuana more than once. One legislator even resigned and moved out of state because of the legislature rejecting it. Even if they do try to pass a medical marijuana bill, it will be so watered down it will be ineffective, and the product allowed will have far fewer, if any, real, proven health benefits that whole plant marijuana has.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Oct. 14, 2018 11:15 a.m.

    First, Family Policy Research is a group of women from BYU, that should be mentioned when they are parroting "church" statements. Next,
    "Rather than rushing to vote for Proposition 2, which puts patients, youths and children at risk, Utah voters should support the safer, more responsible medical marijuana bill before the Utah Legislature."

    Scare tactics aren't working. The reason Prop 2 came about is due to the governor and the legislature's failure to act. They won't do anything with regard to cannabis without being forced to. There is language in Prop 2 that allows the legislature to come up with their own proposal and tweak Prop 2. Prop 2 goes into effect if the legislature continues to do nothing. Prop 2 doesn't go into effect on Nov. 7 like opponents are trying to make people believe. Prop 2 opponents are a little short on honesty in their messages.