Utah's shift in approval for Trump is the highest in the nation, new poll says

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  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    Oct. 13, 2018 3:01 p.m.

    xert: After dropping the Republican party decades ago, knowing that the Democratic party had already gone off the cliff, I wanted Hatch out of office just because he had cozied up to the Democratic party too much (one party rule), and then as he was in his final days he stated that 'Trump was the best president every' or similar words, I was not only shocked but finally felt like a politician saw the light like many Americans that work and live and breathe in this country. Good for Hatch! Great for America.

  • Light and Liberty St George, UT
    Oct. 12, 2018 6:30 p.m.

    Some people will vote for Trump, but fear saying so their friends. Why? Who knows why. We do live in a Politically correct world, unfortunately. Most people, myself included, didn't vote for Trump because he was a saint. that ended decades ago, if not for our country's history. He is a no nonsense, business person who was sent to Washington because both political parties have failed to represent half the Americans that know better than what they had been getting for a generation: Political leaders that lousy at doing what they promised they would do! They did keep on spending without any accountability. They did chain Americans by passing legislation that taxed them too high, put government in charge of everything without considering concepts such as liberty, the constitution, and the rule of law. They patronized the hard working Americans that didn't want Washington running everything and putting limits on everything from free speech to the right to bear arms. I mean, it is really simple. He doesn't put up with all the politically correct nonsense that has permeated our culture for a generation. We put him in office for a reason, not for being a saint!

  • Janet Pete Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 12, 2018 5:16 p.m.

    BYUalum - South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 6:01 a.m.

    "The reason that President Trump's approval ratings have gone up is because he is accomplishing so much for this country."

    You need to read the article again. The headline wasn't clear, but if you read the story it shows a negative 13 % decrease in approval and positive 9 % increase in disapproval for Donald Trump according to the poll cited. Trump's disapproval in the nation is approximately 51% while his approval numbers are around 45%. In other words, his approval ratings HAVE NOT gone up.

    Only in the minds of the Trump faithful are his numbers improving. And with women (primarily Independent women) his numbers have fallen the most. It is hard to win elections when one's popularity is less than 50% in a two-way race. Trump barely won the Electoral College by razor-thin margins in key battleground states, but he lost the popular vote by over 3 million votes. This means that most Americans didn't approve of him even at that time. Now it's gotten worse.

    Certainly, the Trumpies in this thread will be happy reading your interpretation of the story. But you need to read the story and not just the headline. It's confusing, I know.

  • xert Santa Monica, CA
    Oct. 12, 2018 7:27 a.m.

    This shift is impressive, but when you think of 58% of Utahans approving of this guy when he became President? I don’t care if you are the reddest State in the Union or not, We knew so much about Donald Trump already and 58% thought he was approve worthy? This nation is going to be scratching its collective head and sheepishly apologizing to our grandchildren starting in about two years and then for the rest of our lives if we survive this presidency. We elected Donald Trump as our President and Utah voters led the way. Hold your heads high folks.

  • Adios MSC, UT
    Oct. 11, 2018 10:09 p.m.

    The title of this article is misleading.

  • HarryR Cedar City, UT
    Oct. 11, 2018 2:29 p.m.

    This poll like most speculations from the Fake Media industry is highly suspect. "Poll ratings for the President are down in AZ, NM and UT." For starters let's cross out NM as invalid data. Having lived in NM, "The Land of Entitlement" for 15 years I leaned that any candidate who is not soft on crime and not an advocate of "Free Stuff" will never make it to the top 40. Moreover, who has a landline? Standing firm by his man, Justice Kavanagh President Trump demonstrated leadership and integrity (unlike that careerist running for senate). Fortune Favors the bold; President Trump's opponents have a distinct commonalty; they dwell within the Swamp, the news room, the old hippie's home and faculty lounge; meaning their economic success is not dependent on how well business in the real world is doing. The NEVERTRUMPERS, now more than ever need the status quo.

  • Mad Hatter Santa Fe, NM
    Oct. 10, 2018 11:35 p.m.

    BYUalum - South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 10, 2018 4:05 p.m.

    "I will vote for due process of law and order, not protests, disruptions, and violence!"

    A true Tea Party patriot. It's always the "lawless mob" when protesting on the Left, but we've never see women at these protests bringing racially-charged signs, Confederate flags, and guns when they demonstrate.

    Vote "Law & Order" NOT "Rule of Law". Is that the new mantra of the Trump Party?

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 10, 2018 4:05 p.m.

    I would not read the aforementioned newspapers, i.e., NY Times, WA Post, et al., any more than I would watch CNN, MSNBC, etc. All are very biased to the socialist left and do not ever give balanced news!

    I will vote for due process of law and order, not protests, disruptions, and violence!

    Keep our country strong! Vote Republican Nov. 6th!

  • Janet Pete Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 10, 2018 12:52 p.m.

    cougar engineer - Alpine, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 9:55 p.m.

    "Sorry, can't accept this poll . . . I am angered and sickened whenever I try to watch CNN, MSNBC, etc., because I only get to hear and watch carefully limited clips, out of context and the extremely biased reports of commenters only. "

    Is your preferred source of information Fox News, by chance? Apparently you really don't watch CNN or MSNBC when you talk about "out of context", "carefully limited clips", and "extremely biased reports of commenters only". But this is all your preference and opinion, so there is no use arguing. If your preference is Fox with Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, Jeannine Pirro and the rest of the Fox talking heads, then that's your choice.

    Why don't you read the national newspapers of record like the NYTimes, WaPo, WSJ, LATimes and other reputable news organizations? You may not like the criticism of your Dear Leader, but at least they have credible and researched sources. Try to be a little "fact-based" and not "alternate facts" in your news information gathering. And if you want to question the news stories, provide evidence rather than partisan generalities and tribal talking points.

  • Mad Hatter Santa Fe, NM
    Oct. 10, 2018 12:40 p.m.

    Copybook Headings - Draper, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 6:06 p.m.

    "Don't have to read the article. Don't have to read the comments. After what Democrats did to Kavanaugh and Ford I'm voting Republican. And no amount of vitriol from Democrats and the MSM is going to change my mind. We finally have someone who stands up to Democrats and their pretzel logic hypocrisy."

    So this is what it is to live in the Fox News bubble?

  • one old man MSC, UT
    Oct. 10, 2018 11:51 a.m.

    After reading all the comments coming from people who are apparently members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, I find myself wondering what they are thinking when they pledge their allegiance to trump.

    To do that, they have to be completely abandoning nearly everything they should have learned in church.

    The Lord must be terribly disappointed.

  • Mad Hatter Santa Fe, NM
    Oct. 10, 2018 11:50 a.m.

    Rubydo - Provo, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:02 p.m.

    "Trump is doing a spectacular job despite . . . "

    The data doesn't show this. Do you usually repeat 'Fox & Friends' talking points when it comes to Donald Trump, ignoring the bad and praising him when he doesn't mess things up.

    Remember the imprisoned children taken from their parents?

    USAlover - Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:06 p.m.

    "Stay embarrassed because Utah will re-elect Trump in 2020 . . . "

    Vote for overwhelmingly, maybe. But Donald Trump will again depend on Russia to get himself over 40%. And he won't have James Comey gumming up the works to his favor this time around.

    Clinton King (Ephraim) - Ephraim, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:52 p.m.

    " . . . any Democrat that might be elected will certainly be worse."

    Isn't this what conservatives always say? Tribal partisanship. That's what it's all about.

    NoNamesAccepted - St. George, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:38 p.m.

    " . . . his payments to prostitutes . . . "

    Not prostitutes. A porn actress and Playboy bunny.

    Herbert Gravy - Salinas, CA
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:46 p.m.

    "What have we "sacrificed on the world stage."?"

    Prestige? Respect? Allies?

    Oct. 10, 2018 8:09 a.m.

    The highest shift in approval means we've dropped most? A confusing headline. While my approval of Trump has remained steady in the Are we really doing this range, it was refreshing to hear a reasonable conservative last night from Mitt at the debate.

  • Andres Albuquerque, NM
    Oct. 10, 2018 12:00 a.m.

    @ Silo & @Iron Rod: Seriously? Golf would be a factor in your personal evaluation of a president's effectiveness? Aside aside the well-publicized running list of President Trump's accomplishments, now in the hundreds, there are two which cement his legacy and validate his presidency to ANY American who honors the Constitution. His appointment of not one, but TWO, Constitutionalist Supreme Court Justices would be the crowning achievement for any other president, regardless of party. As far as I'm concerned, that monumental achievement alone (in less than 2 years mind you) qualifies President Trump to golf every day for 8 years if he feels like it.

  • cougar engineer Alpine, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 9:55 p.m.

    Sorry, can't accept this poll. I was never consulted, nor were any people I actually know. While I prefer the Gary Cooper type of hero, with "aw shucks maa'm, twern't nothing", I voted for the bombastic, self back patting president, and I will again. He certainly is not a politician, and I am grateful for it. I watch Fox news, despite some over the top coverage at times, simply because I get to watch and listen to all the people speak-Democrats, Republicans, conservatives, liberals. I don't always agree with the commentaries, but I get to watch the whole coverage, good, bad, and indifferent. I am angered and sickened whenever I try to watch CNN, MSNBC, etc., because I only get to hear and watch carefully limited clips, out of context and the extremely biased reports of commenters only. The MSM does not report political news, only provides propaganda. I am truly sorry for the people who have to rely on the MSM for their information.
    All of my well educated Utah friends generally approve of President Trump's actions, and his attempts to come through on campaign promises. They all will vote for him again.

  • Citizen John Doe Orem, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 9:53 p.m.

    I'm a moderate Republican and I'm finally realizing that President's are almost never the Super Heros/Villains painted by the far right/left. I wish people would get out of their base silos and realize that.

    A corollary to that statement is also true. Presidents take far more credit for economic conditions that they should. As many people have mentioned already, the economy would have been zipping along just fine, with or without Trump as President. In fact I strongly disagree with both his tariffs and his tax cuts.

    For those trapped in the Fox News silo, please realize that you're almost certainly overestimating Trump's "accomplishments" to the same degree the far left may be overestimating his place as "worst President ever".

    As someone that values civility and kindness, I am glad that I didn't vote for Trump and cannot fathom a situation where I ever would. So I totally understand the latest polling.

    One more comment about November's vote being the "true" polling numbers. Statistics prove the accuracy of polls within a few percentage points, but elections average only about 50% turnout (@60% for presidential and @40% for midterms). By that measure, polls are more accurate.

  • Copybook Headings Draper, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 6:06 p.m.

    Don't have to read the article. Don't have to read the comments. After what Democrats did to Kavanaugh and Ford I'm voting Republican. And no amount of vitriol from Democrats and the MSM is going to change my mind. We finally have someone who stands up to Democrats and their pretzel logic hypocrisy.

  • n8ive american Shelley, Idaho
    Oct. 9, 2018 5:23 p.m.

    Prometheus Platypus - Orem, UT

    America woke up to the disaster that obama was, which was why Trump got elected.

    How's that record low unemployment, especially minority, working out for you?

    Now we have a President that doesn't tour the world bowing down to every world leader and apologizing for everything. That and being the world's bank.

    Glad that fiasco has ended.

    Now we need to vote the rest of the democrats out of office so that the nation can recover better.

  • Jim Chee Lahaina, HI
    Oct. 9, 2018 3:25 p.m.

    ndres - Albuquerque, NM
    Oct. 8, 2018 6:56 p.m.

    "So we hire an ill-mannered, bombastic, crude, no-nonsense businessman . . . "

    Businessman or demagogue? According to the NYTimes, Donald Trump build his business empire on his father's money and tax fraud. For the last decade he has been a successful reality star and his only business is his brand. Prior to that he seems to have a history of poor investments where his father bailed him out of one disaster after another.

    The myth of Donald Trump, the politically-savvy businessman has been exposed as a hoax to used favorite word. We'll see how this plays out over the next several months (perhaps years), but the idea of Trump being a self-made man is a total lie if you believe the documents supplied in the Times story. Only the most jaded Trumpie would deny that the Trump family didn't build their wealth on the backs of American taxpayers.

    Is it any wonder Trump got out of the business and into selling his brand to investors who wanted to capitalize on his name. Now they may be considering removing the Trump name from their properties as it's becoming a losing commodity. Your local, small business owner is more successful.

  • Cousineddy SLC, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 12:50 p.m.

    I will vote for Trump again. Only because he is the best choice of all the bad choices of the few who can actually get elected and do the job. I do have to over look some things I wish he would change, but his list of things that trouble me is way shorter than any Democrat candidate. That party has truly gone off the deep end and stands for evil in my mind. What the democrats tried to sell America in the Cavanaugh hearings was unbelievable. Every alleged victim should be respected and heard, but there has to be some degree of credible evidence before you destroy a person's life with a guilty verdict. Never been more disgusted with them..

  • oldbasketball Draper, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 10:52 a.m.

    I don't believe this poll for a minute. Trump will win Utah in 2020 regardless of any foolish poll. The polsters were all wrong in 2016 and they will be all wrong in 2020. Most of the Church population doesn't like his language but they sure like his results.

  • Sequoya Stafford, VA
    Oct. 9, 2018 10:08 a.m.

    I recall that many objected to Mitt Romney because he wasn't somebody you'd go out and have a drink with. Sounds like you could probably drink with Trump.

  • David Centerville, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 9:35 a.m.

    I will not be voting for Donald Trump in 2020. I am looking for a real conservative who is a responsible person, with values. Today Nikki Haley announced her resignation as UN Ambassador. She would be absolutely fantastic as president. She has experience, she is classy, she is conservative, she is smart. Anything Democrats throw into the race will represent radicalism, socialism, and financial collapse of our economy. Haley would win.

  • HSTucker Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 9:18 a.m.

    @Andres: Powerfully and eloquently said. Amen.

    @Lia: I admire your persistence in trying to keep the "Russian collusion" narrative alive.

  • Lia Sandy, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 9:05 a.m.

    Thankfully, after Mueller divulges his findings, we won't have to worry about trump anymore.

  • Thomas Jefferson Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 8:49 a.m.

    Trump is doing a poor job at everything but pandering to his base.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 8:49 a.m.

    I didn't vote for him to be my moral leader, I have church leaders to fill that role. No other president since "Ike" has been so determined to protect and defend the USA. "

    I agree with this, and it seems to summarize a big difference in the viewpoints of the Left and the Right.
    The Left is looking for a "Dear Leader". Someone they can admire; someone to fill their spirits with soaring rhetoric; Someone to whom they can become devotees. Obama was the quintessential Leftist "Dear Leader".

    Conservatives are looking for a competent captain to direct the "Ship of State". We don't really care about the captain's personal life too much. We don't need a captain to inspire us. We have other sources for spiritual inspiration. The "Ship of State" is just a vehicle by which we navigate the dangerous waters filled with shoals of extremism, tyranny, and socialism. As long as the Captain has a good track record of steering away from the shoals of socialism and into the free and open waters of American liberty, we will let him drive for the next 4 years. We may respect our Captain/President, but we do not worship him or take moral lessons from him.

  • RiDal Sandy, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 8:39 a.m.

    One would think we had learned our lesson about "Trump polls". I know that I always say negative things about Trump in polls just to make the pollsters look silly.

  • Esquire Springville, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 8:18 a.m.

    So Utah proves that morality does not count for much. Integrity is irrelevant. Positive leadership is nothing. Lying is the way to go. Mocking is manly and thus good. In the end, what's so special about a state that claims high religious principle yet gets on board with the current President? Nothing. No better than anywhere else. Not one whit better. Stop the smug pretense, please. @ LOU Montana got it exactly right.

  • Stake Syracuse, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 8:13 a.m.

    Count me as one who supports President Trump. He was elected to get something done. Which he is doing. Not to play politics and be nice with the Democrats and Republicans.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 8:12 a.m.

    Awe, look at how loud the Trump Forever and Always Crowd screams his praises, but can't really say what he's done? I mean he takes credit for many things, which he simple hasn't destroyed yet.

    He's on the same path as past Republican presidents, which never ends well for the working American, since Reagan they have all increased the debt, government and wealth into fewer hands.

    As more women leave the GOP in droves, the GOP remains clueless as they continue their misogynist attitude towards women.

    I think this poll is probably wrong, I think less people in Utah like him then suggested, and only his true sycophants are clinging on.

  • screenname Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 8:08 a.m.

    It's very simple, for those of you who can't understand why someone who values moral character would ever pull the lever for Trump:

    The other side is much worse!

  • 1covey Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 7:14 a.m.

    Sic transit Gloria mundi. Fame is fickle because people in general are fickle. But Trump has maintained a steady course - the course as advertised during his campaign, Very unusual these days. I am not distracted by all the smoke and mirrors utilized by Democrats. I say steady on, Mr. President !

  • Misseleer71 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 6:15 a.m.

    Trump is neither corrupt or unethical. What makes you think this?

    Trump is not embezzling money from the tax payers by kickback endorsements and creating fake government agency's in states that do nothing but demand money for the appointed crooks managing the distribution to themselves.

    President Trump didn't borrow money from the government in loans or business deals and is the only man in this government that has his own money and own ambitions and his own ability to lead. Any money borrowed has all been repaid, how many states or local politicians can say they repaid all loans?

    President Trump courageously donated his time skills and patriotism for the good of this country to save our Constitution from the shredding machine of the democrats. President Trump is an honorable man with no greed, no malice, no hate for even traitors committing treason because he his giving them all the chance to become great americans again. Trump knows that men are weak and easy to turn into evil people by greed and the fake promise by democrats to make government pay for everything when they don't have any money to pay for what they have already spent.

  • BYUalum South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 6:01 a.m.

    Oh my, the anti-Trumpers are out on the comment board!

    The reason that President Trump's approval ratings have gone up is because he is accomplishing so much for this country. He has improved out economy, lowered the unemployment rate, has two Constitutionalist Supreme Court Judges, bolstered the military and police, refuted the conspiracy theory in 2016 elections (which has been investigated for 2 very long years with nothing showing), gotten rid of many regulations (the latest was lifting the ban on off-shore drilling, clean-coal mining, and fracking for a few), and kept the NK nuclear threat under wraps.

    Yes, he is brash and bold. That's exactly what is needed right now! The Republicans have been walked on for years. Finally, we have someone to speak out and take action to clean the swamp. It took an outsider to do this. The corruption from some of those inside government is greater than we ever imagined.

    And, the Democrats' poor behavior the last 3 weeks on every scene has Americans saying, "This ain't us!" It has strengthened the Republican base who want law and order--not riots and disruption.

    Vote Republican Nov. 6th. Common sense!

  • uterebel50 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 5:28 a.m.

    This poll will mean nothing when Utahns return the four Trump-worshipping Republican Representatives to Congress in November. Party before country, so say Utah voters.

  • UtahBlueDevil Alpine, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 5:26 a.m.

    I am not sure how anyone can have predefined how they will vote in 2 years. A lot depends on who the Democrats elect to run against them. There are those that want Hillary to run again. Can you imagine another Clinton/Trump election? I think an equally hard choice would be Sanders/Trump.

    In my opinion I think there is a good chance Trump will not run for re-election. Historically and logically thinking, there is little chance the economy can continue its momentum for the next 6 years. It is already in record ground for continuous growth including the Obama years. Add to that sometime in the next couple of years it is likely the Republicans will loose one part of congress.

    Some sort of dip in employment, reduction in growth, and increase in inflation will happen in the near future. If Trump doesn't run, he will be able to blame the Democrats for any down turn - leaving with his ego well in tact. At this point he has very little more to gain, and a whole lot more to lose by running again.

  • Hblocalboy2 West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 4:47 a.m.

    I America wanted a boy scout, we had the opportunity to vote for Mitt. If wasn't for Bush, McCain's, and Romney's letting the Dems walk all over us we wouldn't be here. Let get this straight, he is no conservative. The left has pushed him here. He is a man who gets things done. The corruption of the left is way worse the Trumps indiscretions.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 4:45 a.m.

    I'll be the first to admit that President Trump is coarse in his language. However when an economic recovery was old, he breathed new life into it.

    Reviewing all federal regulations affecting business and getting rid of most of them. Thus making it possible to do business more profitably. He got federal taxes lowered on people and business.

    People now keep more of their money and business profitability has increased and is more sustainable.

    This has real results assuming you have a job or if you own stocks or a business.

  • Joe Leaphorn Scottsdale, AZ
    Oct. 9, 2018 2:54 a.m.

    The headline tells an important story. We learn that Donald Trump's approval rating has experienced the greatest change of any state. It shows that in Utah, Trump's approval rating has dropped 13 points from a high of 54% in March, 2017 to what it is today.

    Although approval among Utah conservatives remains relatively high, Trump is under water in the state with respect to all voters. Nationwide, Trump is at 52.0% disapproval and 42.5% approval. However, it must be noted that polling is imprecise and numbers vary as to institution doing the polling. When you look at a conservative polling group like Rasmussen, it still gives Trump approval a 51-47 split which goes against every other existing poll. It even shows African-American approval at 39%!

    Where Donald Trump only received 14% of the vote in the Utah caucuses, in the 2016 general election he won the Utah Electoral College delegates but with only 45.1% of the vote. This is not typical Utah which usually goes for the Republican candidate by over 70%. It was the lowest percentage of any state that went for Trump.

    Conservative Utah seemed to embrace Trump (outside of the Deep South) in those early days . . . [more]

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  • Joe Leaphorn Scottsdale, AZ
    Oct. 9, 2018 2:54 a.m.

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    . . . of his administration, this is no longer true. Those disapproving of Trump appear to increase on a monthly basis. Even Louisiana registered a 6 point drop in approval for Trump, the lowest decrease of any state.

    However, in these threads are those who hang on to their Fox News perspective that Trump is exceedingly popular and the American people like what he is doing. It's a strange dynamic, but living in the Fox world gives many a sense that all is well with their Dear Leader and themselves. They will argue that the polls are wrong (when they don't agree with their opinions) and the people disapproving of Trump are acting un-American. It's the victim escape from reality.

    The only way we will really know if the polls are indicative of anything is when the votes are counted in November. That will be an indication of how the America people feel about the current administration and the Republicans who support it. The increasing diversity in the electorate is changing the way America will vote in the coming years. Red states are turning Purple. Purple states will turn Blue. People learned a lot from the campaign of 2016 and will keep that mistake from happening again.

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 2:19 a.m.

    Re Bloodhound Provo Utah
    “He may be bombastic, but he tries to keep his word. That's more than I can say of most politicians.”

    I am sure you would agree that he does not keep his word when after critiquing Obama for going to Hawaii for Christmas vacation he said
    “When I am President I will be to busy running the country to go on golf vacations.”

    Please correct me if I am wrong but between his golf vacations and political fund raising tours he his is gone from Washington more than any other President in modern times.

    Am I wrong?

  • Joey D Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 9, 2018 1:36 a.m.

    Trump is the best president we've had in my life time. I didn't vote for him to be my moral leader, I have church leaders to fill that role. No other president since "Ike" has been so determined to protect and defend the USA. Go Pres. Trump don't listen to the nay sayers!

  • worf McAllen, TX
    Oct. 9, 2018 12:31 a.m.

    Many folks from California has moved into Utah.

    Hmm? Turning Blue?

  • Seek to understand Sandy, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 11:19 p.m.

    Did we not learn from the 2016 election that the polls are not to be relied upon? The shock of the 2016 outcome was a direct result of conservatives being silenced and bullied and therefore unwilling to tell polling agencies the truth about their voting plans. This is even more true now than it was in 2016 - the shaming is even more extreme. And Utah is unique because people are going to avoid confrontation, yet will still vote for whoever they want to and won't be pressured. I'm very interested to see if we have another surprise election.

  • Lew Elton Jeppson Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 10:30 p.m.

    Donald Trump is the most corrupt and unethical president in the history of our country. It appears many Utahns get this. If so how can they elect a gang of Republican Trump enablers to Congress this November?

  • fatherof7 Hurricane, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 9:27 p.m.

    Get rid of Trump!! Get rid of Trump!! Give me back Obama!!

    Give me the good old days. As a middle income, retired American, I'm tired of trying to figure out what to do with all this money I save on income tax.

    Give me the good old days when American had no respect as a world power. It scares me watching world leaders quake in their boots when our current leader draws an IMMOVABLE red line in the sand.

    Give me the good old days when world leaders smiled in the face of our president but laughed hysterically behind his back rather than laughing in our presidents face and shaking in their boots behind his back.

    Give me the good old days when protestors were rioting in the streets because there were no jobs. I don't like it when we have all these professional, Soros funded protestors because real people now have real jobs.

    Give me the good old days when our GDP struggled to rise above 2%. I hate seeing so many people buying new cars, purchasing new homes, feeling I can take my wife on a good vacation and seeing a GDP hovering above 4%.

    Give me a Democrat instead of a patriot for president so I can revel in the equal sharing of misery as Winston Churchill proclaimed.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 8:02 p.m.


    Understand this. As much as you'd like to paint Trump criticism as TDS or partisan blindness, I'm speaking from a position of a fiscal, moral and ethical conservative. The sooner you understand that not all Conservatives swoon over Trump, the sooner you'll understand why his approval numbers remain the lowest of any modern president.

    "which flaws amount to bad manners while in office"

    His flaws amount to a deficit over $1Trillion dollars for the first time in almost a decade.

    His flaws amount to a President who has now golfed 159 days, or 25+% of his time in office.

    His flaws amount to a President, who despite criticizing the previous President for use of executive orders, and despite having a majority Senate and House in his favor, has used executive orders at almost twice the rate as his predecessor.

    His flaws amount to three separate aides violating the Hatch act while receiving zero discipline for doing so.

    His flaws amount to exorbitant vacation costs thrust onto taxpayers, despite claiming he would be too busy to take vacations.

    The US deserves far, far better than Trump. Not a single one of his 'accomplishments' excuse his actions.

  • FanOf"ChuckARama" Vernal, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 7:44 p.m.

    His uncontrollable impulses is his own demise in becoming a liablility to his own party and his Super pac donors.

  • There You Go Again St George, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 7:31 p.m.

    Nice try voters who helped put an ethically, integrity and morally challenged reality show host in the WH.

    You own it.

    You can change your minds 6 ways to Sunday...

    However you will forever be held accountable for electing that individual over 16 other republicans.

    It has never been the about the mythical binary choice that republicans use to justify their incomprehensible mistake.

    The republicans also like to dredge up Bill Clinton.

    Anyone who doesn't get all there information from trump tv/radio knows the republican reality show host is Bill Clinton on steroids.

  • longjohn Highland, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 7:20 p.m.

    My 2 cents worth coming from a Moderate. I think Trump is an idiot; however, our best President since Reagan. I can't quite figure out how someone that continually sticks his foot in his mouth, and makes so many stupid tweets can be so successful. Usually life is not to fair to those that aren't very bright, and Trump from most of his communications, sounds like an idiot to me.
    That being said, he has succeeded at everything in his life. He got elected because the Dems put out a candidate who most people disliked more than Trump. I am so glad that he was elected over her, but I realize he was elected more as a vote against Hillary.
    Some of the comments here can not see the truth, but Trump has been great for this country. The economy is booming, and it would not if Hillary was elected. If Obama was able to get a 3rd term we would have still be stuck in slow growth and with poor world policy.
    Most of the things going on in our country have been better. Our economy, less regulation, tightening our boarders, world policy, US policy, NAFTA, Unemployment and getting 2 good Supreme Court Justices.
    Unless you like to bury your head in the sand, our country is much better with Trump!

  • Andres Albuquerque, NM
    Oct. 8, 2018 6:56 p.m.

    So we hire an ill-mannered, bombastic, crude, no-nonsense businessman to tackle a list of tasks which generations of politicians have previously declared impossible. Not only do virtually all the world leaders expect him to fail, but half of his own country is doing everything in its power to ensure that he does.
    Against insurmountable odds, this outsider, inarguably the unlikliest underdog-President since Abraham Lincoln, fights one bloody battle after another, bringing victory after victory home to ingrates who deserve the spoils even less than they understand them.
    I refuse to believe a poll insinuating that Utahns are so judgmental and self-defeating that they'd consider, in the slightest, replacing a real-live patriot for being ill-mannered, bombastic and crude.
    For a people who collectively fancy themselves somewhat attuned to Ways Which Move Mysteriously, Utahns would surely recognize when they're staring one in the face.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 6:44 p.m.

    @mcclark: ""he is a despicable person, but I'm voting for him again"."

    Were you equally confused when a whole lot of the nation said of Bill Clinton, "It's the economy, stupid," and voted for him in spite of his obvious and on-going sexual immoralities and even sexual crimes?

    Compared to sexual assault, marital infidelity, and what would be considered an unequal relationship taking advantage of a much younger subornidate in any other professional environment all on the part of Clinton, Trump's langauge as president is child's play.

    LBJ had a tongue to make a seasoned sailor blush. He just kept it mostly private. JFK cheated on his honeymoon.

    The same people who defend the worst kind of language in kids' movies with claims of "it is used in the real world," are now very concerned to learn that adults in power sometimes use course language?

    Tell me you voted against Clinton, or that you dismiss FDR's, JFK's, or LBJ's accomplishments because of their actual conduct--not just language, but actual sexual misdeeds while in office--and I'll believe your beef with Trump is something other than partisan.

    Otherwise, give it a rest. We vote among the imperfect candidates available.

  • Bloodhound Provo, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 6:32 p.m.

    He may be bombastic, but he tries to keep his word. That's more than I can say of most politicians.

  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 6:26 p.m.

    @silo: "Both matter. Especially for the Office of the President of the US. Saying otherwise is a cop out."

    Both matter. But results matter more.

    For those mature enough to set asside partisan rhetoric, Bill Clinton is one of the more effective presidents in modern history. He worked well with Congress regardless of which party held the majority.

    His personal conduct while in office--including an adulterous sexual affair with a low-level, much younger, starry eyed intern, as well as perjury in a civil case where he was being sued for prior sexual assault on another woman--are far more serious stains on (and in) the Oval Office than anything Trump has done. And his "aw shucks, I feel your pain" personality doesn't diminish that. And even with that, he was a very effective president.

    Ditto JFK despite his very long list of sexual immorality both before and while in office.

    Most decent folks consider sexual infidelity far more serious than rude language.

    So, for anyone not blinded hyper-partisan trump derangment, Trump's results matter a lot more than his personality flaws, which flaws amount to bad manners while in office.

    Specific examples to the contrary, welcome.

  • Mark from Montana Davis County, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 6:21 p.m.


    'Results matter more than personality.'

    The issues with Trump are not his personality, but his character, or lack thereof. In the mid 1990s Republicans were all about how much character mattered, speaking of Bill Clinton. They were right and I made the same comments / judgements myself. Today, character still matters and while Trump is a 'character' he has no character, no internal integrity. His moral compass is simply broken. His lies are epic, his personal behavior is appalling and actions are motivated not by service, not be doing good or even being good. His actions are driven by his own enrichment and aggrandizement. The Marine Corp priority list is God, Corp Country. Self is not even listed. The Marine Corp motto is Semper Fidelis, or Always Faithful. Trump would not be accepted as a Marine - ever. He has never put anyone or anything ahead of himself.

    That is why Trump has dropped in the polls, or in the eyes of true Americans.

  • BlueMoonOden Hinckley, IL
    Oct. 8, 2018 6:04 p.m.

    I voted for Trump for one reason only. The Supreme Court. Trump really came through on that score. Outside of that I could care less about anything else he does.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 5:55 p.m.

    It's all in the news coverage.

  • Astoria Jim Mamaroneck, NY
    Oct. 8, 2018 5:53 p.m.

    No one should be surprised that Utahns' approval of Trump has plummeted: Utah voters had to juggle their basically conservative instincts with the personal behavior of a man whom they would probably not invite into their homes.
    But when he defeated the only Democratic candidate who could not beat him, Utahns decided to give him the benefit of the doubt...believing, or at least hoping that the man who became President would be better than the man who ran for President.
    But after almost two years of lying, preening, and bullying, and a stunning lack of sympathy or empathy, Many Utahns realize he is not just a man you don't want in your house, but a man you don't want in the White House.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 5:50 p.m.

    Trump often says wrong things, but it's hard to argue with what he has done.

  • eastcoastcoug Danbury, CT
    Oct. 8, 2018 5:47 p.m.

    This has restored my faith in Utahns. Trump lives, speaks and behaves in a way that is completely counter to Utah's values. We don't need a blowhard narcissist leading us to enact Conservative laws or appoint Conservative judges. The economy was already humming and would have been the same without him. His tariffs have made it harder not easier on many businesses. And frankly, his mixing of his personal family business with his position is illegal and unethical. He's enacted laws from the tax code to the environment that have benefitted him personally.

    The biggest issue is his character and the way he conducts himself. Don't try to excuse this by saying things are going well. People made the same excuses about Hitler and Mussolini.

  • Aggielove Caldwell, ID
    Oct. 8, 2018 5:31 p.m.

    I don’t follow polls. To many ways to cheat the results.
    Trump is doing better than the last 4 presidents.

  • Boberino Farmington, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 5:19 p.m.

    You can argue about whether or not President Trump has done a good job generally, but his Supreme Court picks are out of the park. The Democrats have no one that is the caliber of Trump. Trump will win in the only poll that counts. In the meantime I hope I don’t get tired of winning.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 5:17 p.m.

    "Results matter more than personality."

    Both matter. Especially for the Office of the President of the US. Saying otherwise is a cop out.

  • Liberal On Planet Zion SLC, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 5:14 p.m.

    Gravy -

    “Most who make this claim do so with vague generalities. I would like to see some specifics. I look forward to seeing a list of verifiable claims re President Trump's "ineptness". 🤮

    Where does one begin? “Please don't site” inaccurate information. “Please don't say”, “fake news’ at the frivolous attempts of deflection.

    “China’s Found the Perfect Patsy to Tackle U.S. Chipmakers”. {*Bloomberg, A.P. 7/3/18}

    “Trump’s Oil Tweet Was a Show of Farce”. {7/2/18}

    “What Trump’s Trade War Is Really About”. {7/6/18}

    “GM Can't Wait Around for Trump to Win a Trade War”. {6/29/18}

    “401(k)s Could Be a Casualty of Trump’s Trade War”. {7/2/18}

    “Trump’s Ineptitude Is No Joke”. {7/2/18}

    “White House scrambles to figure out how prankster got on the phone with Trump”. {POLITICO 6/29/18}

    *The White House Canceled Its Ethics Training
    *The Task Force On Illegal Voting
    *He Tried To Undermine The Judicial Branch On Social Media
    *He Attacked a Department Store On Twitter During A National Security Briefing for Treating His Daughter “Unfairly”
    *The Leaks
    *The Wall
    *EPA Embarrassment
    *He Still Believes Millions Of People Voted Illegally

    You’re welcome comrade. Country before party!

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Oct. 8, 2018 5:11 p.m.


    Of course, in my prior post I meant "cite" and not "site".

    Also, would like to add that the more important "poll" will be revealed on November 6.

    Gotta believe that the Democratic agenda will be soundly rejected.

  • Maverick10 Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 5:09 p.m.

    Should have never been elected. He is the most morally corrupt President in my lifetime. His treatment of people tells us all about how corrupt he is.

    Will never vote for him. Will not vote for any person who supports his terrible behavior.

  • one old man MSC, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 5:05 p.m.

    Gee. Maybe there's hope yet for Utah.

    Watching trump's spectacle of "swearing in" Brent Kavanaugh. Once wasn't enough, so they need to repeat it tonight to keep the base revved up.


  • Clinton King (Ephraim) Ephraim, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:52 p.m.

    I like a lot of what Mr Trump has done, though I disagree with much of his foreign policy. I didn't vote for him in 2016, and won't in 2020, although any Democrat that might be elected will certainly be worse.

  • Frozen Fractals Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:48 p.m.

    Considering his election day percentage in Utah it's actually his inauguration day approval gap that seems like the weird one.

  • mcclark Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:48 p.m.

    I dont get it. "he is a despicable person, but I'm voting for him again".

  • Herbert Gravy Salinas, CA
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:46 p.m.


    What have we "sacrificed on the world stage."?

    Most who make this claim do so with vague generalities. I would like to see some specifics.

    Please don't site the "tittering" at the United Nations when he stated correctly that he had so far done a great job as President.

    Please don't say that America is no longer respected by our allies and our enemies.

    I look forward to seeing a list of verifiable claims re President Trump's "ineptness".


  • NoNamesAccepted St. George, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:38 p.m.

    Trump came in 3rd in a 2-way primary in Utah. He won Utah in the general election only because the only other credible alternative was even worse.

    Trump's day to day behavior is often boorish and self-aggrandizing. The media, and his leftist critics are quick to remind us of his disgusting locker room remarks from 10 years ago, or his payments to prostitutes perhaps as recently as 2 years ago. His recent comments about Dr. Ford are a little disturbing to those who value common courtesy.

    That said, when one has to mud wrestle with pigs and snakes, I'm not sure a proper, clean cut gentleman is going to survive, much less win. Between the despicable conduct of Sen. Feinstein, to the criminal "doxxing" and intimindation of GOP Senators, to the overt bias of most of the media, Trump may be the perfect man for the job.

    Making nice to North Korea and Iran, taking the high road when the opposition engages in borking, and being polite to radical, professional protestors is not a winning strategy.

    I'm not inviting Trump to dinner. I'm not letting my daughters or grand-daughters intern with him. But I do plan to vote for him in 2020.

    Results matter more than personality.

  • silo Sandy, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:27 p.m.

    " Trump has accomplished more in 2 years than any President in 30 years"

    -Managed to reverse a 7 year trend of a shrinking deficit, increasing the deficit to over $1 Trillion again
    -Managed to golf more than any modern president, despite promising not to golf during his presidency
    -Managed to turn over more cabinet members and aides in 2 years than the previous three presidents did in 24 years combined.
    -Managed to use executive orders more frequently in two years than any modern president, despite having a Republican house and congress
    -Managed to have more campaign, cabinet and aides indicted, plead guilty or convicted in 2 years than the previous three presidents did in 24 years combined
    -Managed permanent lower taxes on corporations, but only temporary lower taxes on individuals, and managed to negate those lower individual taxes with increased costs due to tariffs.

    In reality, any one of the other 16 Republican candidates would have accomplished everything Trump did, and likely more than Trump did in the same time frame. Any one of those candidates would have also done it without staining the office and the country the way Trump has.

  • Mc West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:23 p.m.

    If I were asked in a poll whether I approved of Pres. Trump I would have to say no. I very much disapprove of his juvenile tweets and behavior. I disapprove of his past immoral behavior and shady business practices. I did not vote for him or Hillary. I disliked them both too much.

    All of that being said, I will probably vote for him in 2020. I like much of what he has done for the economy and I am glad to have 2 conservative judges on the Supreme Court. Barring anything happening between now and then to change things, he will have my vote. There is no Democrat that even comes close to my political beliefs.

  • LOU Montana Pueblo, CO
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:15 p.m.

    Anyone with a shred of decency would be appalled by Donald J Trump's behaviour.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:15 p.m.

    Trump is not like or respected by the majority of Americans and our global allies. All the polls show that but none can remove him from office, only an election, resignation or impeachment can. These articles aren't telling us anything that we can't see or hear from ourselves, unless your living in some Fox bubble.

  • Prometheus Platypus Orem, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:10 p.m.

    America is waking up to the disaster of a president, Trump is.

    I've noticed all but the diehard fan boys have left the Trump camp.

    I don't think he's won over any women in Utah after his making fun of an assault victim, to the cheers of deplorables. Some of Utah's universities have had problems reporting assault, since the victim could be kicked out of school for coming forward, and didn't want to involve the local police.

    WE have had police departments not processing rape kits?

    Women are tired of being marginalized and abused, we don't need a president who supports it.

    "I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. Grab ’em by the "censored". You can do anything."

  • USAlover Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:06 p.m.


    Stay embarrassed because Utah will re-elect Trump in 2020 by a comfortable margin. Trump has accomplished more in 2 years than any President in 30 years. We would all do well to re-elect him 2020, whether he makes you feel warm and fuzzy or not.

  • Dand_Ute WEST JORDAN, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:03 p.m.

    I don't think that there were a lot of Utah'ns that supported him. In the last election, it was not until AFTER he was nominated, and the choice was him or an even worse Hillary Clinton, that he was elected. I sincerely hope that the two parties can put forth some more electable candidates this year, but I highly doubt they will. That being said he's done some good things, but I sure wish he would just shut his yap, and do the work.

  • Rubydo Provo, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 4:02 p.m.

    Trump is doing a spectacular job despite the attacks and smears by the democrats and left wing media’s propaganda.

  • embarrassed Utahn! Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 8, 2018 3:39 p.m.

    Stop giving trump all the credit for the economy and for unsubstantiated claims of how well the tariffs are working!

    Even if the claims were true, what we have sacrificed on the world stage will take decades to recover from.

    Stepping-up can begin in November if Utahns do the right thing in congressional elections.